Russo-Ukrainian War 2014-23 and Invasion

[Duque de Bragança]

no non-Hungarian NATO troops East of the Danube.

So O.K for Buda, but Pest is a no-no? 

[OttoVonBismarck]

I'm declaring the whole "Ukrainians being anti-Russian helps Putin" nonsense dumbest line of discussion in this entire thread.

[Syt]

Actually, so how to NATO troops get to Romania, if they want to take the land route? If they can't cross the Danube in Hungary, it's a bit of a problem.

[Admiral Yi]

Actually, so how to NATO troops get to Romania, if they want to take the land route? If they can't cross the Danube in Hungary, it's a bit of a problem.

I saw footage of French tanks being airlifted into Romania.

[Syt]

I guess you could go through the Croatia/Montenegro route, but essentially it's cutting off the South-Eastern NATO member states.

[Legbiter]

That's some gnarly footage. Aftermath of a battle.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1500519799499206661

[Syt]

Actually, so how to NATO troops get to Romania, if they want to take the land route? If they can't cross the Danube in Hungary, it's a bit of a problem.

I saw footage of French tanks being airlifted into Romania.

Depending on the number of troops you want to send this may be more or less feasible. A tank battalion - maybe. An armored division ... less so.

[OttoVonBismarck]

I mean the U.S. moved an entire invasion force to the Middle East mostly by plane, you don't really need land routes through Hungary to do deployments to Southeastern Europe. Moving brigade sized units via air is not a very unusual tasking.

[Syt]

Still seems a bit inconvenient.

[Tamas]

That's some gnarly footage. Aftermath of a battle.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1500519799499206661

Ugh. I know I have said it before, and its shallow and selfish to begin with, but I find these footages hit extra hard for me because of the familiar east european surroundings. Those houses... if there was simultaneous fighting going on in Hungary, I could not tell which country this was from.

[Duque de Bragança]

Still seems a bit inconvenient.

Not to mention much more expensive.

[alfred russel]

That's some gnarly footage. Aftermath of a battle.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1500519799499206661

My wife asked me my opinion on the war a few days ago and within 5 minutes it was declared a subject of no further discussion. My perspective was that Russia isn't going to win, but Ukraine is going to get crushed, and the best we can hope for is someone really smart figures out a way to let Russia get out of this quickly while saving face. She thought I was dismissing the heroic Ukrainian patriotic spirit in the face of the invasion. I said that spirit wouldn't keep cities from being leveled by heavy artillery or a refugee crisis.

All the focus is on Russian casualties, logistical struggles, and ineptitude. Which is fine from a PR perspective but the reality is that Ukraine is also losing people and their logistics have to be strained as well, especially east of the Dnieper.

[Legbiter]

All the focus is on Russian casualties, logistical struggles, and ineptitude. Which is fine from a PR perspective but the reality is that Ukraine is also losing people and their logistics have to be strained as well, especially east of the Dnieper.

Yeah the Russians will grind Ukraine into dust with the Syria playbook but then it'll be an enormous albatross around their necks. How the fighting evolves in the next few weeks and months will determine where the new Iron Curtain will sit.

[Zanza]

That's some gnarly footage. Aftermath of a battle.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1500519799499206661

That guy has some rather interesting threads on Russia, Ukraine etc. - no idea how correct the information he gives is, but he makes good narratives:

https://mobile.twitter.com/kamilkazani/status/1498377757536968711

[DGuller]

Yeah, unless WW3 with nuclear exchanges starts, the biggest winner of this war is going to be the West:  they finally have a cause to unite behind, and they get to deputinize their own societies.  The biggest loser will be Ukraine, because they're going to be bombed into stone age or enslaved.  Russia will also be a big loser, but being a pariah is still not as bad of a fate as being destroyed.