Slate really is the worst. Saw this as someone posted it on facebook.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2013/02/28/racist_businessweek_cover_bloomberg_businessweek_misfires_badly.html
QuoteBloomberg Businessweek is a genuinely great magazine that does an amazing job of making business and economics news accessible and interesting, but this way of illustrating a cover story about the return of aggressive mortgage lending products is really something else.
The idea is that we can know things are really getting out of hand since even nonwhite people can get loans these days! They ought to be ashamed.
Update, 1:48 p.m.: Bloomberg Businessweek "apologizes" with a pretty categorical non-apology:
Quote"Our cover illustration last week got strong reactions, which we regret," Josh Tyrangiel, the magazine's editor, wrote in a statement sent to POLITICO. "Our intention was not to incite or offend. If we had to do it over again we'd do it differently."
Note that Tyrangiel doesn't say they regret publishing the actual content of the cover, but the "strong reactions" that it incited. How hard is it to take responsibility for the cover, say sorry, and leave it at that?
Read more context on the controversy here
I clicked on that link at bottom to read more about "the controversy" and saw this:
QuoteA further update to the saga of that now-infamous Businessweek housing cover.
The actual story it illustrates is about the housing recovery in the Phoenix area and says nothing in particular about minority homeowners (though obviously Phoenix has a large Latino population). Instead it's about how housing recovery is on the one hand good for the American economy, but on the other hand we seem to already be in a new speculative phase with people talking about getting rich flipping houses, housing as a can't-lose investment, and all the rest of the mid-aughts madness. To go with the story they commissioned an illustration from a Peruvian illustrator who, in a missive that Businessweek shared with me, explains "I simply drew the family like that because those are the kind of families I know. I am Latino and grew up around plenty of mixed families."
That's understandable enough as far as it goes. Obviously, though, as Businessweek well knows someone else on the staff should have been able to see how this was going to look in the U.S. context. It's pretty clear if you read the story that there's genuinely no effort here to impugn minority homebuyers, but that's certainly how I read the image, and I think it's a very natural reading of it.
:rolleyes:
I'm sure the new york faggits at gawker will get their transgendered panties in a bunch too.
Quote from: garbon on March 01, 2013, 02:14:28 PM
:rolleyes:
It's OK for Languishites that blame the housing bust on minorities and not the predatory lenders to point it out, but when Bloomberg BW does it, it's no biggie?
A non-apology is the perfect response to a non-offence.
Quote from: Malthus on March 01, 2013, 02:38:10 PM
A non-apology is the perfect response to a non-offence.
Exactly this.
I went to the artist's site and looked at his other work. You really, really, REALLY have to stretch, probably past the snapping point, to claim the guy is racist.
I actually quite like his stuff; reminds me of underground comix.
He sounds racist to me.
Oh I'd meant to post the picture.
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Quote from: fahdiz on March 01, 2013, 03:14:12 PM
Quote from: Malthus on March 01, 2013, 02:38:10 PM
A non-apology is the perfect response to a non-offence.
Exactly this.
All that's missing is some watermelon and friend chicken, some scratch-off lotto tickets, and a riced-out import with a 3' spoiler with a PR flag hanging from the rear view mirror. Hell, even the dog in the upper left corner is a pit bull.
The only inaccuracy would be the black cat, as it is a known scientific fact that minorities are tremendously superstitious, and would never own one.
Silly Businessweek. Shoulda ensured that they only used White folks on the cover.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 01, 2013, 04:06:45 PM
The only inaccuracy would be the black cat, as it is a known scientific fact that minorities are tremendously superstitious, and would never own one.
Umm, what about the fact that they have money? :blink:
Quote from: Malthus on March 01, 2013, 04:10:56 PM
Silly Businessweek. Shoulda ensured that they only used White folks on the cover.
And then continue to perpetuate the erasing of minorities - like they did with that horrible Dodge ad that whitewashed the farming industry?!
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 01, 2013, 04:06:45 PM
All that's missing is some watermelon and friend chicken, some scratch-off lotto tickets, and a riced-out import with a 3' spoiler with a PR flag hanging from the rear view mirror.
So all that's missing from the racist drawing are things that would make it racist. Got it.
I'd like to know why the black people have white people noses.
Quote from: garbon on March 01, 2013, 04:12:08 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 01, 2013, 04:06:45 PM
The only inaccuracy would be the black cat, as it is a known scientific fact that minorities are tremendously superstitious, and would never own one.
Umm, what about the fact that they have money? :blink:
Yeah, all the free money lenders were giving them to cause the housing bust and subsequent mortgage-driven derivatives market meltdown; after all, it wasn't predatory lending practices, but all those damned dirty minorities getting all those mortgage loans they couldn't afford that brought our economy to the brink, remember? It was nice to see Bloomberg BW reminding us.
Quote from: garbon on March 01, 2013, 04:14:46 PM
I'd like to know why the black people have white people noses.
They are Ethiopian.
Quote from: fahdiz on March 01, 2013, 04:13:08 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 01, 2013, 04:06:45 PM
All that's missing is some watermelon and friend chicken, some scratch-off lotto tickets, and a riced-out import with a 3' spoiler with a PR flag hanging from the rear view mirror.
So all that's missing from the racist drawing are things that would make it racist. Got it.
Might as well be as accurate as possible in the message you convey. Come correct, or don't come at all.
Quote from: garbon on March 01, 2013, 04:12:58 PM
Quote from: Malthus on March 01, 2013, 04:10:56 PM
Silly Businessweek. Shoulda ensured that they only used White folks on the cover.
And then continue to perpetuate the erasing of minorities - like they did with that horrible Dodge ad that whitewashed the farming industry?!
Well sure. People can't complain about depictions of minorities if all you ever depict anywhere are Bland and Blandy McWhitebread now, can they. ^_^
Quote from: Malthus on March 01, 2013, 04:19:29 PMPeople can't complain about depictions of minorities if all you ever depict anywhere are Bland and Blandy McWhitebread now, can they. ^_^
Bet if they weren't depicting the damned dirty minorities on the receiving end of predatory lending, but instead caricatured all the damned dirty Jews from the mortgage companies on the cover instead, you'd be all over that one, Heebie McHooknose.
Quote from: Malthus on March 01, 2013, 02:38:10 PM
A non-apology is the perfect response to a non-offence.
I hope they do greedy crook-nosed Jewish bankers on the cover next.
Quote from: Malthus on March 01, 2013, 04:19:29 PM
Quote from: garbon on March 01, 2013, 04:12:58 PM
Quote from: Malthus on March 01, 2013, 04:10:56 PM
Silly Businessweek. Shoulda ensured that they only used White folks on the cover.
And then continue to perpetuate the erasing of minorities - like they did with that horrible Dodge ad that whitewashed the farming industry?!
Well sure. People can't complain about depictions of minorities if all you ever depict anywhere are Bland and Blandy McWhitebread now, can they. ^_^
My point with that is that people complained about the lack of minorities in that Dodge Superbowl ad. So either way you'll get someone complaining and if it is only Slate bleating, opt for that option. :D
Quote from: garbon on March 01, 2013, 04:30:40 PM
My point with that is that people complained about the lack of minorities in that Dodge Superbowl ad. So either way you'll get someone complaining and if it is only Slate bleating, opt for that option. :D
Trying to remember that one. Dodge? I remember the non-issue with the Jamaican accent for VW, but not anything about Dodge.
Anyway, what's really stunning here is how fucked up the editorial oversight in Bloomberg Businessweek must be, to allow something like this to slip by.
Sure, the picture is not racist by KKK standards (it's not something to get offended about if someone, say, posted this on their Facebook) but anyone who doesn't realize this would cause a furore if published on a cover of a serious business magazine should really find a job in a different industry.
Quote from: garbon on March 01, 2013, 04:30:40 PM
Quote from: Malthus on March 01, 2013, 04:19:29 PM
Quote from: garbon on March 01, 2013, 04:12:58 PM
Quote from: Malthus on March 01, 2013, 04:10:56 PM
Silly Businessweek. Shoulda ensured that they only used White folks on the cover.
And then continue to perpetuate the erasing of minorities - like they did with that horrible Dodge ad that whitewashed the farming industry?!
Well sure. People can't complain about depictions of minorities if all you ever depict anywhere are Bland and Blandy McWhitebread now, can they. ^_^
My point with that is that people complained about the lack of minorities in that Dodge Superbowl ad. So either way you'll get someone complaining and if it is only Slate bleating, opt for that option. :D
Yup. I'm agreeing.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 01, 2013, 04:33:34 PM
Quote from: garbon on March 01, 2013, 04:30:40 PM
My point with that is that people complained about the lack of minorities in that Dodge Superbowl ad. So either way you'll get someone complaining and if it is only Slate bleating, opt for that option. :D
Trying to remember that one. Dodge? I remember the non-issue with the Jamaican accent for VW, but not anything about Dodge.
I never posted about it here but I saw people on facebook (and some article) angry that all of the farmers were white. They wanted to know where all of our minority (particularly latino) farm workers had gone.
Also, I'm glad I posted this slate article if only for the popcorn moments of watching Marti froth about race.
Quote from: Malthus on March 01, 2013, 04:40:25 PM
Quote from: garbon on March 01, 2013, 04:30:40 PM
Quote from: Malthus on March 01, 2013, 04:19:29 PM
Quote from: garbon on March 01, 2013, 04:12:58 PM
Quote from: Malthus on March 01, 2013, 04:10:56 PM
Silly Businessweek. Shoulda ensured that they only used White folks on the cover.
And then continue to perpetuate the erasing of minorities - like they did with that horrible Dodge ad that whitewashed the farming industry?!
Well sure. People can't complain about depictions of minorities if all you ever depict anywhere are Bland and Blandy McWhitebread now, can they. ^_^
My point with that is that people complained about the lack of minorities in that Dodge Superbowl ad. So either way you'll get someone complaining and if it is only Slate bleating, opt for that option. :D
Yup. I'm agreeing.
Not coincidentally that's how I now sort of feel regarding representations of Native Americans. It seems like these days they only way you can represent any Native American culture without being lambasted is to pay money to the relevant tribal organization. Which means we really won't have representations of native americans at all.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 01, 2013, 04:23:55 PM
Quote from: Malthus on March 01, 2013, 04:19:29 PMPeople can't complain about depictions of minorities if all you ever depict anywhere are Bland and Blandy McWhitebread now, can they. ^_^
Bet if they weren't depicting the damned dirty minorities on the receiving end of predatory lending, but instead caricatured all the damned dirty Jews from the mortgage companies on the cover instead, you'd be all over that one, Heebie McHooknose.
Just how would you go about depicting that
without using stereotypes?
I guess logic was never the stong point of drunken Irish cops. :P
Quote from: garbon on March 01, 2013, 04:40:57 PM
I never posted about it here but I saw people on facebook (and some article) angry that all of the farmers were white. They wanted to know where all of our minority (particularly latino) farm workers had gone.
Ah, OK. Maybe they would've felt better if there were a shot of a Dodge with 9 migrants workers in the bed? :lol:
QuoteAlso, I'm glad I posted this slate article if only for the popcorn moments of watching Marti froth about race.
I find it disturbing that he seems to be agreeing with me. I don't feel comfortable with that association. NOT DOING ME ANY FAVORS MARTI, MMMKAY?
Isn't one of the people on the cover a white lady? :hmm:
Quote from: garbon on March 01, 2013, 04:40:57 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 01, 2013, 04:33:34 PM
Quote from: garbon on March 01, 2013, 04:30:40 PM
My point with that is that people complained about the lack of minorities in that Dodge Superbowl ad. So either way you'll get someone complaining and if it is only Slate bleating, opt for that option. :D
Trying to remember that one. Dodge? I remember the non-issue with the Jamaican accent for VW, but not anything about Dodge.
I never posted about it here but I saw people on facebook (and some article) angry that all of the farmers were white. They wanted to know where all of our minority (particularly latino) farm workers had gone.
Also, I'm glad I posted this slate article if only for the popcorn moments of watching Marti froth about race.
It's a great damned if you do, damned if you don't.
Have a Dodge commercial with all-White farm hands? White-wash!
Have a Dodge commerical with Latino farm hands? You think Latinos are wetbacks!
:D
Quote from: Valmy on March 01, 2013, 04:47:12 PM
Isn't one of the people on the cover a white lady? :hmm:
The deep one hybrid? Who can tell.
Quote from: Malthus on March 01, 2013, 04:48:03 PM
It's a great damned if you do, damned if you don't.
Have a Dodge commercial with all-White farm hands? White-wash!
Have a Dodge commerical with Latino farm hands? You think Latinos are wetbacks!
:D
Regardless, the important thing to remember is that because you are white you are not allowed to have an opinion on the subject.
You consider ethnic people subjects?
Quote from: The Brain on March 01, 2013, 05:03:11 PM
You consider ethnic people subjects?
Of course. We don't want to objectify people.
Quote from: The Brain on March 01, 2013, 05:03:11 PM
You consider ethnic people subjects?
Independent clauses.
Quote from: fahdiz on March 01, 2013, 04:53:56 PM
Regardless, the important thing to remember is that because you are white you are not allowed to have an opinion on the subject.
Nonsense.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 01, 2013, 05:11:15 PM
Quote from: fahdiz on March 01, 2013, 04:53:56 PM
Regardless, the important thing to remember is that because you are white you are not allowed to have an opinion on the subject.
Nonsense.
No, it's pretty much true.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 01, 2013, 05:11:15 PM
Quote from: fahdiz on March 01, 2013, 04:53:56 PM
Regardless, the important thing to remember is that because you are white you are not allowed to have an opinion on the subject.
Nonsense.
Seedy, for one, certainly has opinions.
Quote from: Valmy on March 01, 2013, 05:21:03 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 01, 2013, 05:11:15 PM
Quote from: fahdiz on March 01, 2013, 04:53:56 PM
Regardless, the important thing to remember is that because you are white you are not allowed to have an opinion on the subject.
Nonsense.
Seedy, for one, certainly has opinions.
But they're irrelevant.
Quote from: fahdiz on March 01, 2013, 05:21:42 PM
Quote from: Valmy on March 01, 2013, 05:21:03 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 01, 2013, 05:11:15 PM
Quote from: fahdiz on March 01, 2013, 04:53:56 PM
Regardless, the important thing to remember is that because you are white you are not allowed to have an opinion on the subject.
Nonsense.
Seedy, for one, certainly has opinions.
But they're irrelevant.
You sound like derspiess. :lol: "White people can't see racism--that's just racist!"
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 01, 2013, 05:40:23 PM
Quote from: fahdiz on March 01, 2013, 05:21:42 PM
Quote from: Valmy on March 01, 2013, 05:21:03 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 01, 2013, 05:11:15 PM
Quote from: fahdiz on March 01, 2013, 04:53:56 PM
Regardless, the important thing to remember is that because you are white you are not allowed to have an opinion on the subject.
Nonsense.
Seedy, for one, certainly has opinions.
But they're irrelevant.
You sound like derspiess. :lol: "White people can't see racism--that's just racist!"
That's not really what I'm saying at all.
Quote from: fahdiz on March 01, 2013, 05:43:36 PM
That's not really what I'm saying at all.
Go fuck yourself, but that's not what I'm saying at all, either.
Well, I guess it's fairly well established what you guys are not saying. It's what you are saying that I'm having trouble understanding. :huh: :(
I think fhdz was right. Basically white people can't have an opinion on minorities. There mere fact of having an opinion is racist...and your opinion will always be racist. :yes:
Quote from: DGuller on March 01, 2013, 06:03:04 PM
Well, I guess it's fairly well established what you guys are not saying. It's what you are saying that I'm having trouble understanding. :huh: :(
"I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant."
Quote from: garbon on March 01, 2013, 07:04:16 PM
I think fhdz was right. Basically white people can't have an opinion on minorities. There mere fact of having an opinion is racist...and your opinion will always be racist. :yes:
Even the notion - voiced by a white person - that there is a rational set of criteria which do not include race for judging merit, performance, etc is seen, rightly or wrongly, as racist. The very state of being "white", which once meant that we were the only ones who got a vote on these things, now means that not only do we not get a vote but the very notion that we would feel entitled to an opinion on the subject is racist.
It doesn't actually preclude white people from *having* opinions, of course, since we obviously do - but it does affect what happens if we choose to voice them.
Quote from: fahdiz on March 01, 2013, 07:12:44 PM
Even the notion - voiced by a white person - that there is a rational set of criteria which do not include race for judging merit, performance, etc is seen, rightly or wrongly, as racist. The very state of being "white", which once meant that we were the only ones who got a vote on these things, now means that not only do we not get a vote but the very notion that we would feel entitled to an opinion on the subject is racist.
It doesn't actually preclude white people from *having* opinions, of course, since we obviously do - but it does affect what happens if we choose to voice them.
:rolleyes: racist
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 01, 2013, 05:49:57 PM
Go fuck yourself
Well, there goes 2 minutes of my day. What am I supposed to do with the rest of it?
How is it that Louis CK puts it? "I'm not saying that white people are better. I'm saying that BEING WHITE is better."
Quote from: PDH on March 01, 2013, 07:15:08 PM
Quote from: fahdiz on March 01, 2013, 07:12:44 PM
Even the notion - voiced by a white person - that there is a rational set of criteria which do not include race for judging merit, performance, etc is seen, rightly or wrongly, as racist. The very state of being "white", which once meant that we were the only ones who got a vote on these things, now means that not only do we not get a vote but the very notion that we would feel entitled to an opinion on the subject is racist.
It doesn't actually preclude white people from *having* opinions, of course, since we obviously do - but it does affect what happens if we choose to voice them.
:rolleyes: racist
:D
Quote from: fahdiz on March 01, 2013, 07:12:44 PM
It doesn't actually preclude white people from *having* opinions, of course, since we obviously do - but it does affect what happens if we choose to voice them.
Sorry but I'd go further and say that if you are going to have opinions (even unvoiced) then your very existence is racist. :(
I hope to have died peacefully of natural causes before the tables are turned and white folks are on the receiving end.
Receiving ain't so bad. :whistle:
Quote from: fahdiz on March 01, 2013, 07:29:05 PM
I hope to have died peacefully of natural causes before the tables are turned and white folks are on the receiving end.
I can help!
Quote from: Razgovory on March 01, 2013, 07:30:28 PM
Quote from: fahdiz on March 01, 2013, 07:29:05 PM
I hope to have died peacefully of natural causes before the tables are turned and white folks are on the receiving end.
I can help!
Peacefully.
Of natural causes.
Quote from: garbon on March 01, 2013, 04:14:46 PM
I'd like to know why the black people have white people noses.
Article says they're supposed to be Latinos.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 01, 2013, 07:42:35 PM
Quote from: garbon on March 01, 2013, 04:14:46 PM
I'd like to know why the black people have white people noses.
Article says they're supposed to be Latinos.
Racist
Quote from: fahdiz on March 01, 2013, 07:41:20 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on March 01, 2013, 07:30:28 PM
Quote from: fahdiz on March 01, 2013, 07:29:05 PM
I hope to have died peacefully of natural causes before the tables are turned and white folks are on the receiving end.
I can help!
Peacefully.
Of natural causes.
It'll be naturalish. How much Americium do you think you need to eat before you get cancer? That's fairly natural.
Test it on yourself and get back to us!
Quote from: fahdiz on March 01, 2013, 07:15:51 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 01, 2013, 05:49:57 PM
Go fuck yourself
Well, there goes 2 minutes of my day. What am I supposed to do with the rest of it?
Oh, please. I've told you to go fuck yourself plenty of times. You'll figure something out.
Seedy & Marti sittin' in a tree...
Quote from: fahdiz on March 01, 2013, 07:16:51 PM
How is it that Louis CK puts it? "I'm not saying that white people are better. I'm saying that BEING WHITE is better."
:nerd: yet he's Mexican
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 01, 2013, 08:07:59 PM
Quote from: fahdiz on March 01, 2013, 07:15:51 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 01, 2013, 05:49:57 PM
Go fuck yourself
Well, there goes 2 minutes of my day. What am I supposed to do with the rest of it?
Oh, please. I've told you to go fuck yourself plenty of times. You'll figure something out.
This fried chicken and that watermelon have been sitting here for a while. I guess I could fuck those, too.
Quote from: katmai on March 01, 2013, 08:16:49 PM
Quote from: fahdiz on March 01, 2013, 07:16:51 PM
How is it that Louis CK puts it? "I'm not saying that white people are better. I'm saying that BEING WHITE is better."
:nerd: yet he's Mexican
There are lots of white Mexicans!
Quote from: katmai on March 01, 2013, 08:16:49 PM
Quote from: fahdiz on March 01, 2013, 07:16:51 PM
How is it that Louis CK puts it? "I'm not saying that white people are better. I'm saying that BEING WHITE is better."
:nerd: yet he's Mexican
No, he's not and neither are you :rolleyes:
Meri is.
I had a burrito last week.
Quote from: derspiess on March 01, 2013, 08:24:31 PM
Quote from: katmai on March 01, 2013, 08:16:49 PM
Quote from: fahdiz on March 01, 2013, 07:16:51 PM
How is it that Louis CK puts it? "I'm not saying that white people are better. I'm saying that BEING WHITE is better."
:nerd: yet he's Mexican
No, he's not and neither are you :rolleyes:
yes he is and so am I, just Mitt who isn't.
Quote from: fahdiz on March 01, 2013, 08:21:25 PM
Quote from: katmai on March 01, 2013, 08:16:49 PM
Quote from: fahdiz on March 01, 2013, 07:16:51 PM
How is it that Louis CK puts it? "I'm not saying that white people are better. I'm saying that BEING WHITE is better."
:nerd: yet he's Mexican
There are lots of white Mexicans!
you take that back you dirty whore!
Quote from: garbon on March 01, 2013, 04:12:58 PM
Quote from: Malthus on March 01, 2013, 04:10:56 PM
Silly Businessweek. Shoulda ensured that they only used White folks on the cover.
And then continue to perpetuate the erasing of minorities - like they did with that horrible Dodge ad that whitewashed the farming industry?!
Except the black farmer from Mississippi.
Quote from: garbon on March 01, 2013, 07:30:02 PM
Receiving ain't so bad. :whistle:
Yeah that is what I was afraid Fahdiz was referring to. Poor Marty :(
Quote from: katmai on March 01, 2013, 11:00:35 PM
Quote from: derspiess on March 01, 2013, 08:24:31 PM
Quote from: katmai on March 01, 2013, 08:16:49 PM
Quote from: fahdiz on March 01, 2013, 07:16:51 PM
How is it that Louis CK puts it? "I'm not saying that white people are better. I'm saying that BEING WHITE is better."
:nerd: yet he's Mexican
No, he's not and neither are you :rolleyes:
yes he is and so am I, just Mitt who isn't.
Okay so by that logic I could call myself a Brit or a Kraut.
Quote from: derspiess on March 01, 2013, 11:11:56 PM
Okay so by that logic I could call myself a Brit or a Kraut.
I recall a dude in my High School whose family had lived in San Antonio since the 18th century and would still keep getting called a Mexican. So it seems the statue of limitations on that are pretty long.
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Quote from: derspiess on March 01, 2013, 08:24:31 PM
Quote from: katmai on March 01, 2013, 08:16:49 PM
Quote from: fahdiz on March 01, 2013, 07:16:51 PM
How is it that Louis CK puts it? "I'm not saying that white people are better. I'm saying that BEING WHITE is better."
:nerd: yet he's Mexican
No, he's not and neither are you :rolleyes:
yes he is and so am I, just Mitt who isn't.
Okay so by that logic I could call myself a Brit or a Kraut.
is your grandmother born in England ir Germany and did you live there till seven years old?
Derspicy is just being an idiot.
Quote from: katmai on March 01, 2013, 11:32:31 PMis your grandmother born in England ir Germany and did you live there till seven years old?
Alright that is pretty convincing. If one of those guys at those lame Scottish culture festivals had lived in Scotland until he was seven I would even give him a pass.
Quote from: derspiess on March 01, 2013, 11:11:56 PM
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Quote from: fahdiz on March 01, 2013, 07:16:51 PM
How is it that Louis CK puts it? "I'm not saying that white people are better. I'm saying that BEING WHITE is better."
:nerd: yet he's Mexican
No, he's not and neither are you :rolleyes:
yes he is and so am I, just Mitt who isn't.
Okay so by that logic I could call myself a Brit or a Kraut.
I go by U.S. Census rules. I'm Hispanic because I'm from Hispania. :smoke:
Whatever Dorsey
Quote from: garbon on March 01, 2013, 03:20:06 PM
Oh I'd meant to post the picture.
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Is that an interracial couple on the first floor? :o
Quote from: katmai on March 01, 2013, 11:32:31 PM
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Quote from: fahdiz on March 01, 2013, 07:16:51 PM
How is it that Louis CK puts it? "I'm not saying that white people are better. I'm saying that BEING WHITE is better."
:nerd: yet he's Mexican
No, he's not and neither are you :rolleyes:
yes he is and so am I, just Mitt who isn't.
Okay so by that logic I could call myself a Brit or a Kraut.
is your grandmother born in England ir Germany and did you live there till seven years old?
Where were you born?
Spiess is going to need to see your birth certificate, Kat.
If he wants to be el Presidente, yes.
Short form okay?
Throw in death while you're at it.