http://gawker.com/hello-from-the-underclass/
Take the education bubble and toss in some shareholder value. Shake vigorously and top off with a big spoonful of disfunctionality.
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I am a twenty-five year old woman living in Michigan and I don't see the point in living. I did everything I was supposed to do: I graduated from high school, I went to university. I got my bachelors and I worked hard. I love to work, I have a strong ethic for it, and I'm at my best when I'm busy. But there is so little decent employment out there and I wonder what all that time and money spent on school was worth.
I got my degree in Film just when movies were starting to get big in my state. "The Hollywood of the Midwest," I heard it called. The timing was serendipitous and like most young people I felt I was destined for great things. But those film jobs were scarce and competitive— hiring only so many people in state— and no one seemed interested in a fresh grad.
It has been many months since and after an internship and a deferred paying job I didn't see a cent for, I'm back living with my folks. I'd go elsewhere for work, but I honestly can't afford it. I'd take the terrible, boring jobs so many of my contemporaries accept without complaint, but I'm so depressed over my state in life I can't seem to find the energy to care enough to survive. I have been so very lucky and blessed to have parents that support me both financially (though I wish so hard I could finally be totally independent) and emotionally. But my dad (very reasonably) said he won't continue to help after I turn 26. I know it's supposed to give me initiative to get my life together, but even with this date looming I just can't find the energy to care about self-preservation.
Lately the guilt sends me combing the web in the wee hours, searching for a soothing solidarity... so finding these volumes of Unemployment Stories is like a hand reaching out to grab hold of. But I still feel worthless. Useless. A waste of space and life. And the response to my bemoaning is almost always some variant of "I have no sympathy for you." It's like no one wants to listen and frankly I'm inclined to simply disappear into silence.
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This is not my unemployment story, but the toll that my daughter's unemployment has taken on me and her. I was lucky. I got a master's degree and had job security for life. A job in 30 days after graduating. My daughter has a master" degree in Library Science and is underemployed at a library that seems to be hell bent on proving that no one who works there and then earns the degree will get anywhere. She works part time. She has been working on a computer certificate and is in an internship for web design but still no offers of employment or any recognition from her employer. It is disheartening to hear more fortunate family members behave as if she is not trying hard enough. One member told me"well she isn't getting any younger." She must apply to 20 jobs a week for the past 3 years. It has made me depressed an anxious about her future to the extent that I can barely sleep some nights. I think about the waste of her talent. She graduated with honors from college and a high GPA from high school even with learning disabilities and ADHD. She was bullied throughout grade school but still fought her way through. Still no reward only criticism. I want to avoid family and friends whose children have had more luck. One friend especially rubs it in. I have lost faith in America. My father was a WWII vet disabled in the Battle of the Bulge (but he still worked all his life) and why did he do that - so his granddaughter could be treated like scum and passed over for employment.
Gawker? :bleeding:
Also those two stories? :rolleyes:
I did everything I was supposed to do except major in a good paying field with available jobs.
I've read some. most start "i went to school for art... " and i tune out.
It's like America doesn't have any trade person. Plumbing & Electricity has anyone heard of those things? There's good money in them.
Maybe she's really ugly.
Quote from: Grey Fox on February 26, 2013, 10:20:38 PM
It's like America doesn't have any trade person. Plumbing & Electricity has anyone heard of those things? There's good money in them.
Tell us Mike Holmes about these 'trades'.
Quote from: HVC on February 26, 2013, 10:15:37 PM
I've read some. most start "i went to school for art... " and i tune out.
Yeah, but that was supposed to be good enough. Still, the world needs ditch diggers too. Going to college is usually a mistake in the US.
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Quote from: Grey Fox on February 26, 2013, 10:20:38 PM
It's like America doesn't have any trade person. Plumbing & Electricity has anyone heard of those things? There's good money in them.
Tell us Mike Holmes about these 'trades'.
Oh man, oh man, oh man. Tear it down. 60 000$ renovation, let's rewire everything!
Quote from: Grey Fox on February 26, 2013, 10:20:38 PM
It's like America doesn't have any trade person. Plumbing & Electricity has anyone heard of those things? There's good money in them.
My cousin was an electrician. Now he's a state Senator.
Quote from: HVC on February 26, 2013, 10:15:37 PM
I've read some. most start "i went to school for art... " and i tune out.
Funny how everybody with jobs suddenly turn into judgmental Baby Boomers and garbon.
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Quote from: HVC on February 26, 2013, 10:15:37 PM
I've read some. most start "i went to school for art... " and i tune out.
Funny how everybody with jobs suddenly turn into judgmental Baby Boomers and garbon.
Oh honey, I was like this even when I was collecting my disability money.
That doesn't surprise me :lol:
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Quote from: HVC on February 26, 2013, 10:15:37 PM
I've read some. most start "i went to school for art... " and i tune out.
Funny how everybody with jobs suddenly turn into judgmental Baby Boomers and garbon.
I'm a judgemental Gen Xer who dropped out of something i knoew wouldn't give me a career and took something else. They get no pity from me for going into debt taking a degree that will do nothing for them.
I have turned into Ed. I am: old.
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Quote from: HVC on February 26, 2013, 10:15:37 PM
I've read some. most start "i went to school for art... " and i tune out.
Yeah, but that was supposed to be good enough. Still, the world needs ditch diggers too. Going to college is usually a mistake in the US.
It was never good enough. I remember Arts degree = McDonalds job being a meme since i was in grade school, so no doubt it's older.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 26, 2013, 10:29:03 PM
That doesn't surprise me :lol:
Well if gawker rants make them feel better about their ruined dreams, let them have at it. We don't need that here though. :goodboy:
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Quote from: HVC on February 26, 2013, 10:15:37 PM
I've read some. most start "i went to school for art... " and i tune out.
Funny how everybody with jobs suddenly turn into judgmental Baby Boomers and garbon.
Oh honey, I was like this even when I was collecting my disability money.
What is it with you people and putting on airs?
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Quote from: HVC on February 26, 2013, 10:15:37 PM
I've read some. most start "i went to school for art... " and i tune out.
Funny how everybody with jobs suddenly turn into judgmental Baby Boomers and garbon.
Oh honey, I was like this even when I was collecting my disability money.
What is it with you people and putting on airs?
Just about everyone knows if the money is there for the taking...
Quote from: HVC on February 26, 2013, 10:30:15 PMI have turned into Ed. I am: old.
No, you've turned into everybody's father.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 26, 2013, 10:29:03 PM
That doesn't surprise me :lol:
I bet garbo had literal tea parties, while he studied psychology.
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Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 26, 2013, 10:29:03 PM
That doesn't surprise me :lol:
I bet garbo had literal tea parties, while he studied psychology.
No, I wasn't into lettowism. I drank wine out of my coffee mug in college.
you make fun of arts students but things arent much better for many science grads :contract:
Quote from: Tyr on February 26, 2013, 10:53:03 PM
you make fun of arts students but things arent much better for many science grads :contract:
which sciences?
Quote from: HVC on February 26, 2013, 10:54:10 PM
Quote from: Tyr on February 26, 2013, 10:53:03 PM
you make fun of arts students but things arent much better for many science grads :contract:
which sciences?
Psychology and the social sciences. -_-
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Quote from: Tyr on February 26, 2013, 10:53:03 PM
you make fun of arts students but things arent much better for many science grads :contract:
which sciences?
Psychology and the social sciences. -_-
You're too young to be an Old. The STE part of the STEM market, and there's indications of problems in the M too, is all fucked up too. Loads of scientists are having serious difficulty obtaining positions after graduation, even including post-doc slave labor. Source: I read an article.
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Quote from: Tyr on February 26, 2013, 10:53:03 PM
you make fun of arts students but things arent much better for many science grads :contract:
which sciences?
any.
i'm from the computer science field. at this jet leavers conference were also jobless biologists, chemists, etc...
engineering (and then maybe only certain types) seems to be the only true graduate employing field.
at this conference actually, the key speaker, some british academic, had the view that it was people with BAs who had the better prospects in the future job market due to all the BSc jobs being doable by Indians for cheaper
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Quote from: Tyr on February 26, 2013, 10:53:03 PM
you make fun of arts students but things arent much better for many science grads :contract:
which sciences?
Psychology and the social sciences. -_-
You're too young to be an Old. The STE part of the STEM market, and there's indications of problems in the M too, is all fucked up too. Loads of scientists are having serious difficulty obtaining positions after graduation, even including post-doc slave labor. Source: I read an article.
written by a freelancing english major with an ax to grind :P
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Quote from: Tyr on February 26, 2013, 10:53:03 PM
you make fun of arts students but things arent much better for many science grads :contract:
which sciences?
Psychology and the social sciences. -_-
You're too young to be an Old. The STE part of the STEM market, and there's indications of problems in the M too, is all fucked up too. Loads of scientists are having serious difficulty obtaining positions after graduation, even including post-doc slave labor. Source: I read an article.
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It was an Atlantic article.
http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2013/02/the-phd-bust-americas-awful-market-for-young-scientists-in-7-charts/273339/
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Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 26, 2013, 10:29:03 PM
That doesn't surprise me :lol:
Well if gawker rants make them feel better about their ruined dreams, let them have at it. We don't need that here though. :goodboy:
Right. Because Marti rants are so much more valid.
Quote from: HVC on February 26, 2013, 10:30:15 PM
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Quote from: HVC on February 26, 2013, 10:15:37 PM
I've read some. most start "i went to school for art... " and i tune out.
Funny how everybody with jobs suddenly turn into judgmental Baby Boomers and garbon.
I'm a judgemental Gen Xer who dropped out of something i knoew wouldn't give me a career and took something else. They get no pity from me for going into debt taking a degree that will do nothing for them.
I have turned into Ed. I am: old.
Society is fucked.
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Quote from: garbon on February 26, 2013, 10:37:33 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 26, 2013, 10:29:03 PM
That doesn't surprise me :lol:
Well if gawker rants make them feel better about their ruined dreams, let them have at it. We don't need that here though. :goodboy:
Right. Because Marti rants are so much more valid.
Of course not but then we rowdily decry those too!
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Quote from: HVC on February 26, 2013, 10:15:37 PM
I've read some. most start "i went to school for art... " and i tune out.
Yeah, but that was supposed to be good enough. Still, the world needs ditch diggers too. Going to college is usually a mistake in the US.
It was never good enough. I remember Arts degree = McDonalds job being a meme since i was in grade school, so no doubt it's older.
No shit. I knew 20 years ago that I should get a BSc because at least it was marginally more employable than a BA.
Quote from: Ideologue on February 26, 2013, 11:07:38 PM
It was an Atlantic article.
http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2013/02/the-phd-bust-americas-awful-market-for-young-scientists-in-7-charts/273339/
But this article is focusing on PhDs.
I'll concede that a science degree isn't the path to riches either - but it's more employable than a BA.
I am just looking for the path that goes someplace. This fall I start hitting the job search with a 15 month timer until graduation. I predict: pain.
Study petroleum engineering.
Quote from: Phillip V on February 26, 2013, 11:53:37 PM
Study petroleum engineering.
Then 5 years from now they break through on fusion.
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Study petroleum engineering.
Then 5 years from now they break through on fusion.
We can afford to be unemployed when fusion arrives. It will unlock enormous wealth.
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Study petroleum engineering.
I will have to hope electrical is enough.
I try to avoid any conversation or question of work/employment with people unless I know for sure that they are gainfully employed. It is no doubt awkward/embarrassing to have to explain your non-job situation over and over again to acquaintances and strangers, let alone nagging family/friends.
Location is important too. Location and mobility.
Quote from: Jaron on February 27, 2013, 01:49:36 AM
Location is important too. Location and mobility.
Mobility is a huge issue.
Quote from: Jaron on February 27, 2013, 01:49:36 AM
Location is important too. Location and mobility.
Jobs should come to me, not the other way around. I don't want to leave my friends and family.
If I have to move, it will only be to a hip and exciting city with beautiful people and shops where rent is affordable.
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Quote from: Jaron on February 27, 2013, 01:49:36 AM
Location is important too. Location and mobility.
Jobs should come to me, not the other way around. I don't want to leave my friends and family.
If I have to move, it will only be to a hip and exciting city with beautiful people and shops where rent is affordable.
That's not how it works.
Says I livingin Edmonton, with lots of jobs, but a shitty city with expensive real estate.
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Quote from: Jaron on February 27, 2013, 01:49:36 AM
Location is important too. Location and mobility.
Mobility is a huge issue.
Not really. Only because it worked for you doesn't make it true.
I moved to the Pearl River Delta to have a good life, since opportunities here were much better than in Canada. Mono's rants are right-on.
Quote from: Phillip V on February 27, 2013, 01:58:51 AM
If I have to move, it will only be to a hip and exciting city with beautiful people and shops where rent is affordable.
Hip and exciting cities attract people which drives up rent. Not to mention lots of extra traffic and smaller houses/apartments.
Quote from: Pitiful Pathos on February 27, 2013, 02:13:10 AM
I moved to the Pearl River Delta to have a good life, since opportunities here were much better than in Canada. Mono's rants are right-on.
I moved to the off world colonies.
Quote from: Ideologue on February 27, 2013, 02:46:57 AM
I moved to the off world colonies.
I often relocate from various areas of the sofa.
Quote from: HVC on February 26, 2013, 10:30:15 PM
I'm a judgemental Gen Xer who dropped out of something i knoew wouldn't give me a career and took something else. They get no pity from me for going into debt taking a degree that will do nothing for them.
I have turned into Ed. I am: old.
You and I aren't Gen X.
He can be Gen X if he wants.
No he can't.
Quote from: Grey Fox on February 27, 2013, 08:01:32 AM
Quote from: HVC on February 26, 2013, 10:30:15 PM
I'm a judgemental Gen Xer who dropped out of something i knoew wouldn't give me a career and took something else. They get no pity from me for going into debt taking a degree that will do nothing for them.
I have turned into Ed. I am: old.
You and I aren't Gen X.
whatever, XY. They keep changing it.
As long as you don't try and make me older, hvc.
Quote from: HVC on February 27, 2013, 09:22:54 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on February 27, 2013, 08:01:32 AM
You and I aren't Gen X.
whatever, XY. They keep changing it.
No they don't. Your ass was born in 1984, baby cakes. If you can't remember the Reagan Administration, you're just Generation YNot.
I think that's a good limit test, yes.
I remember the Reagan Administration. :cool:
I also remember John Lennon getting shot. The chick on TV was crying when she announced it. I was like, "Tim: Relax" and then I asked my mom for some more Juicy Juice. :)
Quote from: Grey Fox on February 27, 2013, 09:33:27 AM
I think that's a good limit test, yes.
It's litmus test. :secret:
What generation am I? I'm too young to be a Boomer, too old to be a Gen Xer. Can I just be my own generation? :unsure:
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Quote from: Grey Fox on February 27, 2013, 09:33:27 AM
I think that's a good limit test, yes.
It's litmus test. :secret:
What generation am I? I'm too young to be a Boomer, too old to be a Gen Xer. Can I just be my own generation? :unsure:
You're just old. Like me.
Quote from: PDH on February 27, 2013, 09:48:55 AM
You're just old. Like me.
Aren't you 48? Doesn't that make you a Boomer? :hmm: I mean, I thought the Boomer generation ended with those who could remember the moon landing.
That's the word, thanks Meri.
PDH & Meri are Gen Xers.
If you were born after 1959, you are not a Boomer.
Quote from: Grey Fox on February 26, 2013, 10:20:38 PM
It's like America doesn't have any trade person. Plumbing & Electricity has anyone heard of those things? There's good money in them.
I have heard of them.
I'm getting back in school in Plumbing/Heating, starting next week. :nelson:
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Quote from: Grey Fox on February 26, 2013, 10:20:38 PM
It's like America doesn't have any trade person. Plumbing & Electricity has anyone heard of those things? There's good money in them.
I have heard of them.
I'm getting back on school chair in Plumbing/Heating, starting next week. :nelson:
:) You don't live in the US too.
Whenever I lose this job, I'm gonna go something like that too.
Quote from: Grey Fox on February 27, 2013, 11:09:49 AM
:) You don't live in the US too.
Whenever I lose this job, I'm gonna go something like that too.
No, we live in poor-ass, every-hipster-wants-free-university Quebec. Even that when I come out of school I'll be laughing all the way to the bank. :lmfao:
Beware, though. Usually admission happens once per year, and there were a lot of applicants when I passed the admission test. I was told 1 in 3 are picked, on average.
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It's like America doesn't have any trade person. Plumbing & Electricity has anyone heard of those things? There's good money in them.
I have heard of them.
I'm getting back on school chair in Plumbing/Heating, starting next week. :nelson:
:) You don't live in the US too.
Whenever I lose this job, I'm gonna go something like that too.
Why wait?
& we're getting old too!
I believe in Free University & I am not an hipster!
@BB It's not something that is given in night classes* & I rather not quit my job. I like having an house for me, my gf & my kids.
or rather, that I could find.
Boom-bust cycles in employment are a natural feature of the market - as people going into law school these days are discovering. What worries me more is that lately it's mostly about the bust part. What's booming? Try to anticipate that.
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& we're getting old too!
I believe in Free University & I am not an hipster!
I don't.
In fact much of the problem is that university is too accessible and overvalued, compared for the white collar demands of the market. And like many, I fell for the "education is a priority" bullshit.
Quote from: Grey Fox on February 27, 2013, 11:15:48 AM
@BB It's not something that is given in night classes* & I rather not quit my job. I like having an house for me, my gf & my kids.
or rather, that I could find.
GF is right, BB. Here in Quebec going to what the US call "trades' school" is basically returning to high school, classes five times a week from Monday to Friday,7AM to 3PM.
Quote from: Malthus on February 27, 2013, 11:18:15 AM
Boom-bust cycles in employment are a natural feature of the market - as people going into law school these days are discovering. What worries me more is that lately it's mostly about the bust part. What's booming? Try to anticipate that.
Seems like nursing and hospital administration will continue to boom for some time - or at least be a stable place.
Quote from: garbon on February 27, 2013, 11:22:12 AM
Seems like nursing and hospital administration will continue to boom for some time - or at least be a stable place.
There will inevitably be serious cost pressure on the whole health sector though.
Quote from: Grey Fox on February 27, 2013, 11:15:48 AM
I believe in Free University & I am not an hipster!
No, you're a mooch.
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Quote from: garbon on February 27, 2013, 11:22:12 AM
Seems like nursing and hospital administration will continue to boom for some time - or at least be a stable place.
There will inevitably be serious cost pressure on the whole health sector though.
Definitely true and why I also sliding to stable as the boom will probably come off as you say with inevitable cost pressures.
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Quote from: Grey Fox on February 27, 2013, 11:15:48 AM
@BB It's not something that is given in night classes* & I rather not quit my job. I like having an house for me, my gf & my kids.
or rather, that I could find.
GF is right, BB. Here in Quebec going to what the US call "trades' school" is basically returning to high school, classes five times a week from Monday to Friday,7AM to 3PM.
But he said "whenever I lose my job", not "if I lose my job". Sounds like he expects to lose it. So why not be proactive?
This isn't the 70s. At some point, shareholder value will be more important & the corporate overlords of California will sell us out.
Quote from: Malthus on February 27, 2013, 11:18:15 AM
Boom-bust cycles in employment are a natural feature of the market - as people going into law school these days are discovering. What worries me more is that lately it's mostly about the bust part. What's booming? Try to anticipate that.
Health care. Quality assurance. Analyzing large data sets. Process improvement. "Green collar" jobs, especially in engineering/building/manufacturing.
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Quote from: Malthus on February 27, 2013, 11:18:15 AM
Boom-bust cycles in employment are a natural feature of the market - as people going into law school these days are discovering. What worries me more is that lately it's mostly about the bust part. What's booming? Try to anticipate that.
Health care. Quality assurance. Analyzing large data sets. Process improvement. "Green collar" jobs, especially in engineering/building/manufacturing.
Health care is, possibly, the biggest bubble going.
"Green collar" jobs - I've been hearing about those for 25 years. Still hasn't happened.
However, if I was going to tell GF to go into an up-and-coming area, I've got one word for him.
Plastics.
Quote from: Barrister on February 27, 2013, 12:17:52 PM
"Green collar" jobs - I've been hearing about those for 25 years. Still hasn't happened.
:huh: It's happening as we speak.
QuoteHowever, if I was going to tell GF to go into an up-and-coming area, I've got one word for him.
Plastics.
Yeah, materials science is a good one for sure.
I'd stay away from teaching.
Quote from: fahdiz on February 27, 2013, 12:19:34 PM
:huh: It's happening as we speak.
Not where he lives... in the heart of oil country. :contract:
Quote from: fahdiz on February 27, 2013, 12:19:34 PM
Quote from: Barrister on February 27, 2013, 12:17:52 PM
However, if I was going to tell GF to go into an up-and-coming area, I've got one word for him.
Plastics.
Yeah, materials science is a good one for sure.
Whoosh.
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Quote from: fahdiz on February 27, 2013, 12:19:34 PM
Quote from: Barrister on February 27, 2013, 12:17:52 PM
However, if I was going to tell GF to go into an up-and-coming area, I've got one word for him.
Plastics.
Yeah, materials science is a good one for sure.
Whoosh.
Your mom.
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Quote from: Neil on February 27, 2013, 11:35:02 AM
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I believe in Free University & I am not an hipster!
No, you're a mooch.
:mad: You're the mooch.
I'm not the one who's trying to get free stuff that has no social utility.
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Quote from: Barrister on February 27, 2013, 12:17:52 PM
However, if I was going to tell GF to go into an up-and-coming area, I've got one word for him.
Plastics.
Yeah, materials science is a good one for sure.
Whoosh.
Your mom.
Don't blame me if you can't catch a reference from The Graduate. :mad:
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Quote from: Barrister on February 27, 2013, 12:17:52 PM
However, if I was going to tell GF to go into an up-and-coming area, I've got one word for him.
Plastics.
Yeah, materials science is a good one for sure.
Whoosh.
Your mom.
Don't blame me if you can't catch a reference from The Graduate. :mad:
I did. I almost posted that I would consider it only if I'd bang a drunk, middle-aged Anne Bancroft.
Pretty sure The Beeb has made that joke several times before. :sleep:
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Quote from: HVC on February 26, 2013, 10:15:37 PM
I've read some. most start "i went to school for art... " and i tune out.
Funny how everybody with jobs suddenly turn into judgmental Baby Boomers and garbon.
I'm a judgemental Gen Xer who dropped out of something i knoew wouldn't give me a career and took something else. They get no pity from me for going into debt taking a degree that will do nothing for them.
I have turned into Ed. I am: old.
Well the problem now is a lot of employers expect a 4 year degree to clean their toilets. Not everyone (succesfully) get a bachelors in electrical engineering or CS.
From junior high on it was a steady stream of 'you have to go to college if you want to be anything above garbage collector'.
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on February 27, 2013, 12:52:58 PM
From junior high on it was a steady stream of 'you have to go to college if you want to be anything above garbage collector'.
In junior high, they took us all on the tour of the local vocational school as an alternate option to high school.
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I believe in Free University & I am not an hipster!
No, you're a mooch.
:mad: You're the mooch.
I'm not the one who's trying to get free stuff that has no social utility.
:ike: I am not. I want to move the condition of admission from economic to education.
Quote from: garbon on February 27, 2013, 12:59:21 PM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on February 27, 2013, 12:52:58 PM
From junior high on it was a steady stream of 'you have to go to college if you want to be anything above garbage collector'.
In junior high, they took us all on the tour of the local vocational school as an alternate option to high school.
I was too. But all my teachers told me that only people who couldn't do better went there. ya know, the drones who would probably be found as bus drivers or what not. now I see electricians driving lexus.
Quote from: garbon on February 27, 2013, 12:59:21 PM
In junior high, they took us all on the tour of the local vocational school as an alternate option to high school.
Yeah, they did that for us, too. But you always knew which kids were going to wind up going there.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 27, 2013, 01:08:12 PM
Quote from: garbon on February 27, 2013, 12:59:21 PM
In junior high, they took us all on the tour of the local vocational school as an alternate option to high school.
Yeah, they did that for us, too. But you always knew which kids were going to wind up going there.
Bleh, thankfully none of us were required to tour the Vo-Tech center. The ones who were going to go naturally gravitated there. Their absence made high school a tiny bit more pleasant.
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Quote from: garbon on February 27, 2013, 12:59:21 PM
In junior high, they took us all on the tour of the local vocational school as an alternate option to high school.
Yeah, they did that for us, too. But you always knew which kids were going to wind up going there.
True. :D
Quote from: Grey Fox on February 27, 2013, 01:04:08 PM
Quote from: Neil on February 27, 2013, 12:30:01 PM
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Quote from: Grey Fox on February 27, 2013, 11:15:48 AM
I believe in Free University & I am not an hipster!
No, you're a mooch.
:mad: You're the mooch.
I'm not the one who's trying to get free stuff that has no social utility.
:ike: I am not. I want to move the condition of admission from economic to education.
No you're not. You're trying to get a free ride. Besides, why would a society want more people attending university when there are too many university-educated people as it is?
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If I have to move, it will only be to a hip and exciting city with beautiful people and shops where rent is affordable.
Hip and exciting cities attract people which drives up rent. Not to mention lots of extra traffic and smaller houses/apartments.
Nobody wants to hear how the world works.
Quote from: Caliga on February 27, 2013, 12:39:37 PM
Pretty sure The Beeb has made that joke several times before. :sleep:
The search of the word "plastics" reveals only this thread, so :blurgh:
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Quote from: Neil on February 27, 2013, 11:35:02 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on February 27, 2013, 11:15:48 AM
I believe in Free University & I am not an hipster!
No, you're a mooch.
:mad: You're the mooch.
I'm not the one who's trying to get free stuff that has no social utility.
:ike: I am not. I want to move the condition of admission from economic to education.
No you're not. You're trying to get a free ride. Besides, why would a society want more people attending university when there are too many university-educated people as it is?
I think I know what I want. Free ride. :rolleyes: I did not go, nor will I ever go to university. Paid for University is a travesty.
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However, if I was going to tell GF to go into an up-and-coming area, I've got one word for him.
Plastics.
Yeah, materials science is a good one for sure.
Whoosh.
Your mom.
Don't blame me if you can't catch a reference from The Graduate. :mad:
Don't blame me if your normally humorless nature causes me to think you're being serious! :mad:
Quote from: Barrister on February 27, 2013, 02:29:06 PM
Quote from: Caliga on February 27, 2013, 12:39:37 PM
Pretty sure The Beeb has made that joke several times before. :sleep:
The search of the word "plastics" reveals only this thread, so :blurgh:
Earlier iterations of Languish maybe? :hmm:
Someone has definitely made the reference... might not have been you.
It is tragic that we
Quote from: Caliga on February 27, 2013, 02:47:01 PM
Quote from: Barrister on February 27, 2013, 02:29:06 PM
Quote from: Caliga on February 27, 2013, 12:39:37 PM
Pretty sure The Beeb has made that joke several times before. :sleep:
The search of the word "plastics" reveals only this thread, so :blurgh:
Earlier iterations of Languish maybe? :hmm:
Someone has definitely made the reference... might not have been you.
It is tragic that we lost so much history.
No it isn't.
All those posts are gone, like tears in rain. Time to die.
Quote from: Caliga on February 27, 2013, 03:32:50 PM
All those posts are gone, like tears in rain. Time to die.
Crunch evidently took that phrase literally.
:unsure:
I thought he was tomato cowing it up.
Quote from: Caliga on February 27, 2013, 03:32:50 PM
All those posts are gone, like tears in rain. Time to die.
:w00t:
Quote from: Caliga on February 27, 2013, 12:39:37 PM
Pretty sure The Beeb has made that joke several times before. :sleep:
I'm pretty sure everybody on the planet has made that joke several times before.
Quote from: Caliga on February 27, 2013, 03:32:50 PM
All those posts are gone, like tears in rain. Time to die.
That one too. My Blade Runner reference: way fresher. :P
I am pretty sure BB has made the plastics joke before. But it was pretty good in this context.