As most of you know, I was raised in a very lower-class, poor environment. I was taught basic etiquette like to say please, thank you, excuse me, etc. But I didn't learn a good bit of the other kind of stuff. Like, I was 25 before I knew that it was considered polite to say excuse me when you walk in front of someone. (I believe that's pretty much been amended to "whenever you have to invade someone's personal bubble" now, whether it's in front of, behind, or next to.)
So I'm curious. What are some of the most basic etiquette gaffes that you see regularly? I'm interested to know how many I make on a daily basis. :D
Wearing flip-flops.
Leaving three carlengths of space in front of you at a stoplight when people behind you are waiting to enter your lane.
Making two 45 degree turns instead of one 90 degree one. Especially when you're cutting off the person in the inside lane.
When I'm having lunch in my office, people don't fucking respect that. They still come in and ask for shit. I don't get paid for my lunch hour, people. Go away.
People who park on the street corners.
People who ride bicycles on heavily trafficked commuter routes. Take the damn side streets.
Walking really slowly and aimlessly in the aisles of grocery stores and stopping abruptly when something shiny catches your ADD-addled eye.
:hmm:
Those seem more like petty irritations, not etiquette. Though, the lunch thing does seem like a typical business etiquette thing. We hang signs up to let people know that we're on break/lunch, but it doesn't always help.
If you're wt work, your working. Just put down your sammich and answer my simple question.
And I am sitting here, having finished my sammich, and eating some carrots, a colleague came by and asked me some questions. I didn't mind a bit.
I'm wearing flip flops right now!!!!
I had to learn how to eat at a "fancy" restaurant. My first reaction - wtf are all these knifes, forkes and glasses doing here?
Abusing the cc function. That one is terrible.
Ewwwww god no CC
Quote from: crazy canuck on September 21, 2012, 01:37:49 PM
I had to learn how to eat at a "fancy" restaurant. My first reaction - wtf are all these knifes, forkes and glasses doing here?
I taught myself how to do this using a Miss Manners book when I was in high school, but I've never had the opportunity to use it. :mad:
Didn't any of you people take Home Economics? It was all in there, dammit.
Quote from: Barrister on September 21, 2012, 01:31:47 PM
If you're wt work, your working. Just put down your sammich and answer my simple question.
Yeah right, I'm like "I'm on my lunch break".
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Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 21, 2012, 01:54:06 PM
Didn't any of you people take Home Economics? It was all in there, dammit.
:unsure:
Our Home Economics class was all about how to wash ourselves, how to use deoderant, how to wash our clothes, how to iron, how to make pancakes, and how to sew a pillow. No etiquette to speak of.
If you're talking to someone, and another person you know walks up, introduce them to the first person. Don't leave them sitting there like a lump.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 21, 2012, 02:07:34 PM
If you're talking to someone, and another person you know walks up, introduce them to the first person. Don't leave them sitting there like a lump.
Yeah definitely. This seems to slip by so many people.
Quote from: merithyn on September 21, 2012, 02:00:36 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 21, 2012, 01:54:06 PM
Didn't any of you people take Home Economics? It was all in there, dammit.
:unsure:
Our Home Economics class was all about how to wash ourselves, how to use deoderant, how to wash our clothes, how to iron, how to make pancakes, and how to sew a pillow. No etiquette to speak of.
Pfft, lame. We learned proper dining placement and use. NO THATS A SALAD FORK DAMMIT
Quote from: garbon on September 21, 2012, 02:11:11 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 21, 2012, 02:07:34 PM
If you're talking to someone, and another person you know walks up, introduce them to the first person. Don't leave them sitting there like a lump.
Yeah definitely. This seems to slip by so many people.
What do you do if you've forgotten the name of one or the other? (I'm really bad about that.) Usually, I cover by introducing the one I remember to the other, letting them work out name stuff from there. It works unless I've forgotten both names, then I'm just stuck. :blush:
Quote from: merithyn on September 21, 2012, 02:00:36 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 21, 2012, 01:54:06 PM
Didn't any of you people take Home Economics? It was all in there, dammit.
:unsure:
Our Home Economics class was all about how to wash ourselves, how to use deoderant, how to wash our clothes, how to iron, how to make pancakes, and how to sew a pillow. No etiquette to speak of.
WTF? OK, I can see the sewing, ironing, and doing laundry, but why on earth did you not know how to wash yourself and use deoderant by the time you were in high school? And while cooking was part of home ec when I was in school, the cooking part didn't focus on pancakes or any other single food.
Quote from: dps on September 21, 2012, 02:35:34 PM
WTF? OK, I can see the sewing, ironing, and doing laundry, but why on earth did you not know how to wash yourself and use deoderant by the time you were in high school? And while cooking was part of home ec when I was in school, the cooking part didn't focus on pancakes or any other single food.
I took Home Ec in middle school, not high school. And they rolled sex ed/personal health into the Home Ec class. And we may have learned how to make other stuff (I vaguely remember making a cake or a pie or something), but the pancakes were all I could remember. :P
Quote from: dps on September 21, 2012, 02:35:34 PM
WTF? OK, I can see the sewing, ironing, and doing laundry, but why on earth did you not know how to wash yourself and use deoderant by the time you were in high school? And while cooking was part of home ec when I was in school, the cooking part didn't focus on pancakes or any other single food.
In junior high they showed us videos on proper hygiene. Some of the hayseeds in my school could have benefited from that, had they paid attention.
Quote from: merithyn on September 21, 2012, 02:21:46 PM
What do you do if you've forgotten the name of one or the other? (I'm really bad about that.) Usually, I cover by introducing the one I remember to the other, letting them work out name stuff from there. It works unless I've forgotten both names, then I'm just stuck. :blush:
That works sometimes. A more ballsy method is to say "Sorry, I've forgotten your name. Could you remind me so I can introduce you to X?"
Not saying "good morning" when you enter the lift and "good bye"/"thank you" when leaving.
Eating escargot with a wrong fork.
A white wine glass used for red wine.
:lol:
Quote from: merithyn on September 21, 2012, 02:40:45 PM
Quote from: dps on September 21, 2012, 02:35:34 PM
WTF? OK, I can see the sewing, ironing, and doing laundry, but why on earth did you not know how to wash yourself and use deoderant by the time you were in high school? And while cooking was part of home ec when I was in school, the cooking part didn't focus on pancakes or any other single food.
I took Home Ec in middle school, not high school. And they rolled sex ed/personal health into the Home Ec class. And we may have learned how to make other stuff (I vaguely remember making a cake or a pie or something), but the pancakes were all I could remember. :P
I won a scholastic award in cooking class - despite the fact that I fucked up just about every recipe in class. :D
Quote from: garbon on September 21, 2012, 03:01:25 PM
I won a scholastic award in cooking class - despite the fact that I fucked up just about every recipe in class. :D
You probably just looked best in an apron :hug:
Quote from: garbon on September 21, 2012, 02:11:11 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 21, 2012, 02:07:34 PM
If you're talking to someone, and another person you know walks up, introduce them to the first person. Don't leave them sitting there like a lump.
Yeah definitely. This seems to slip by so many people.
I always do that, except if I really don't like one of the people or - more commonly - if I forget their name :blush:
Quote from: Jacob on September 21, 2012, 03:08:52 PM
Quote from: garbon on September 21, 2012, 02:11:11 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 21, 2012, 02:07:34 PM
If you're talking to someone, and another person you know walks up, introduce them to the first person. Don't leave them sitting there like a lump.
Yeah definitely. This seems to slip by so many people.
I always do that, except if I really don't like one of the people or - more commonly - if I forget their name :blush:
Sometimes I don't realize that they don't already know one another.
Fuck 'em. They are there to talk to me. If they want to know one another they can go introduce themselves to one another in MiM's office during his lunch hour.
Here are the 110 Rules of Civility & Decent Behaviour In Company and Conversation that George Washington wrote sometime before age 16: http://www.history.org/almanack/life/manners/rules2.cfm
Washington was 11-years-old when his father died.
You know what grinds my gears? When I hold the door open for a woman and she gets all angry at that. WELL FUCK YOU TOO BITCH.
Feminist cunts.
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 21, 2012, 04:31:51 PM
You know what grinds my gears? When I hold the door open for a woman and she gets all angry at that. WELL FUCK YOU TOO BITCH.
Feminist cunts.
If there is another door, do you allow her to hold the door open for you?
Quote from: merithyn on September 21, 2012, 04:32:47 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 21, 2012, 04:31:51 PM
You know what grinds my gears? When I hold the door open for a woman and she gets all angry at that. WELL FUCK YOU TOO BITCH.
Feminist cunts.
If there is another door, do you allow her to hold the door open for you?
She's unable to, after Ed punches her in the face. :D
Quote from: merithyn on September 21, 2012, 04:32:47 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 21, 2012, 04:31:51 PM
You know what grinds my gears? When I hold the door open for a woman and she gets all angry at that. WELL FUCK YOU TOO BITCH.
Feminist cunts.
If there is another door, do you allow her to hold the door open for you?
If somebody opens the door for me, I tip my hat and give them a 'Thank you'. I don't launch into a screed about not needing the door held for me.
Unless it is a wetback holding the door open, then he gets all indignant.
Quote from: katmai on September 21, 2012, 04:38:45 PM
Unless it is a wetback holding the door open, then he gets all indignant.
I love Mexicans. They do wonderful work fixing my roof and picking my grapes.
I have do have poor social etiquette, I'm afraid. For instance, I'm not allowed to answer the phone anymore since I kept shouting "who the hell is this", "how did you get this number", instead of "hello". Then there was the brick thing last month...
I'm not bothered much by breaches of etiquette per se.
Quote from: The Brain on September 21, 2012, 04:46:53 PM
I'm not bothered much by breaches of etiquette per se.
Of course not. In your line of work, you have to be more concerned about coolant tank breaches.
Quote from: Razgovory on September 21, 2012, 04:46:31 PM
I have do have poor social etiquette, I'm afraid. For instance, I'm not allowed to answer the phone anymore since I kept shouting "who the hell is this", "how did you get this number", instead of "hello".
Nothing wrong with that.
Quote from: dps on September 21, 2012, 04:49:46 PM
Quote from: The Brain on September 21, 2012, 04:46:53 PM
I'm not bothered much by breaches of etiquette per se.
Of course not. In your line of work, you have to be more concerned about coolant tank breaches.
I don't drink the coolant.
Quote from: dps on September 21, 2012, 04:49:46 PM
Quote from: The Brain on September 21, 2012, 04:46:53 PM
I'm not bothered much by breaches of etiquette per se.
Of course not. In your line of work, you have to be more concerned about coolant tank breaches.
I just figured he was used to animal-like behavior.
Quote from: merithyn on September 21, 2012, 01:03:15 PM
As most of you know, I was raised in a very lower-class, poor environment. I was taught basic etiquette like to say please, thank you, excuse me, etc. But I didn't learn a good bit of the other kind of stuff. Like, I was 25 before I knew that it was considered polite to say excuse me when you walk in front of someone. (I believe that's pretty much been amended to "whenever you have to invade someone's personal bubble" now, whether it's in front of, behind, or next to.)
So I'm curious. What are some of the most basic etiquette gaffes that you see regularly? I'm interested to know how many I make on a daily basis. :D
I think a generous, thoughtful or considerate nature towards others will cover most of the bases of good manners.
The rest of it seems to be silly class based opportunities to look down upon others, so are best ignored anyway.
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 21, 2012, 04:36:35 PM
Quote from: merithyn on September 21, 2012, 04:32:47 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 21, 2012, 04:31:51 PM
You know what grinds my gears? When I hold the door open for a woman and she gets all angry at that. WELL FUCK YOU TOO BITCH.
Feminist cunts.
If there is another door, do you allow her to hold the door open for you?
If somebody opens the door for me, I tip my hat and give them a 'Thank you'. I don't launch into a screed about not needing the door held for me.
I do the same, though I had to learn that bit of nicety. Being a feminist doesn't mean that a person can't be gracious, too.
Women have gotten way too uppity lately.
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 21, 2012, 05:16:18 PM
Women have gotten way too uppity lately.
And wide. Have to hold open two doors for them.
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 21, 2012, 04:31:51 PM
You know what grinds my gears? When I hold the door open for a woman and she gets all angry at that. WELL FUCK YOU TOO BITCH.
Feminist cunts.
What grinds my gears is the exact opposite. I'm holding a door and some dowager goes sailing through without bothering to grab the door herself so I can continue my progress. I'm not your fucking butler you fat old cow.
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 21, 2012, 04:31:51 PM
You know what grinds my gears? When I hold the door open for a woman and she gets all angry at that. WELL FUCK YOU TOO BITCH.
Feminist cunts.
that happened to me once at the mall. i just replied "sorry, i thought you were a man". The shut her up long enough for me to walk away.
More annoyances:
People who walk up and down escalators.
People using a credit card for purchases of less of a dollar. YOU ARE SLOWING ME UP YOU FUCKS.
Quote from: HVC on September 21, 2012, 06:13:41 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 21, 2012, 04:31:51 PM
You know what grinds my gears? When I hold the door open for a woman and she gets all angry at that. WELL FUCK YOU TOO BITCH.
Feminist cunts.
that happened to me once at the mall. i just replied "sorry, i thought you were a man". The shut her up long enough for me to walk away.
You are promoted back to porkchop for that one.
Quote from: HVC on September 21, 2012, 06:13:41 PMthat happened to me once at the mall. i just replied "sorry, i thought you were a man". The shut her up long enough for me to walk away.
:lol: nicely done
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 21, 2012, 06:15:38 PM
People using a credit card for purchases of less of a dollar. YOU ARE SLOWING ME UP YOU FUCKS.
Given how poorly a lot of cashiers count change, they're probably slowing you down less than if they paid cash.
Quote from: dps on September 21, 2012, 06:17:15 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 21, 2012, 06:15:38 PM
People using a credit card for purchases of less of a dollar. YOU ARE SLOWING ME UP YOU FUCKS.
Given how poorly a lot of cashiers count change, they're probably slowing you down less than if they paid cash.
I always wondered why cashiers always seem to want to give you the cash first and then pile the change on top of the bills so they can slide off. When I had a job like that I always handed the customers the change first then the cash so it was easier to manage.
I also don't understand why they don't seem to be using the count-upwards (http://www.ooblick.com/text/CountingUp.html) method of making change. It's so much faster.
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 21, 2012, 06:16:14 PM
Quote from: HVC on September 21, 2012, 06:13:41 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 21, 2012, 04:31:51 PM
You know what grinds my gears? When I hold the door open for a woman and she gets all angry at that. WELL FUCK YOU TOO BITCH.
Feminist cunts.
that happened to me once at the mall. i just replied "sorry, i thought you were a man". The shut her up long enough for me to walk away.
You are promoted back to porkchop for that one.
woo!
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 21, 2012, 06:15:38 PM
More annoyances:
People who walk up and down escalators.
Fuck you, they're still stairs. Just because they're moving doesn't mean you can't. Fucking crippled stair blocker.
If you want to stand, stand to the right. Also, if you're in a group of people don't fucking stand in the middle of a sidewalk or path you inconsiderate mother fuckers ( I'm looking at you Asian people :P ).
This is the modern age. Let the motorized device do the job.
Not letting drivers out of side streets, not stopping at zebra crossings, walking 5 abreadst taking up the entire pavement, walking on the cycle roads.
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 21, 2012, 09:07:45 PM
This is the modern age. Let the motorized device do the job.
I run down the moving sidewalks at airports. OUT OF MY WAY OLD LADY I'VE GOT A PLANE TO CATCH
The purpose of an escalator is to move faster, not to ride the thing. If you get on one and stop, I hate you.
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on September 21, 2012, 11:39:59 PM
The purpose of an escalator is to move faster, not to ride the thing. If you get on one and stop, I hate you.
Based on this thread I've surmised that you hate a lot of things.
Quote from: Caliga on September 21, 2012, 09:13:27 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 21, 2012, 09:07:45 PM
This is the modern age. Let the motorized device do the job.
I run down the moving sidewalks at airports. OUT OF MY WAY OLD LADY I'VE GOT A PLANE TO CATCH
Maybe if you left on time, you wouldn't have this problem.
Quote from: garbon on September 21, 2012, 11:41:55 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on September 21, 2012, 11:39:59 PM
The purpose of an escalator is to move faster, not to ride the thing. If you get on one and stop, I hate you.
Based on this thread I've surmised that you hate a lot of things.
MiM also crawls up elevator shafts when he doesn't feel the elevator is moving fast enough.
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 21, 2012, 06:15:38 PM
More annoyances:
People who walk up and down escalators.
They're like stairs. Why the hell shouldn't I walk up them?
If you're going to stand on the escalator, fine, but make room for people who are walking as we pass.
Quote from: Barrister on September 21, 2012, 11:49:23 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 21, 2012, 06:15:38 PM
More annoyances:
People who walk up and down escalators.
They're like stairs. Why the hell shouldn't I walk up them?
Cause they aren't stair and they are moving?
Quote from: Barrister on September 21, 2012, 01:32:36 PM
And I am sitting here, having finished my sammich, and eating some carrots, a colleague came by and asked me some questions. I didn't mind a bit.
I love eating at work. I work while I eat, so I get paid to ingest calories, so lunch is basically free. Ingenious!
Quote from: Ideologue on September 22, 2012, 01:44:42 AM
Quote from: Barrister on September 21, 2012, 01:32:36 PM
And I am sitting here, having finished my sammich, and eating some carrots, a colleague came by and asked me some questions. I didn't mind a bit.
I love eating at work. I work while I eat, so I get paid to ingest calories, so lunch is basically free. Ingenious!
Where do you work now, anyway?
On escalators, you stand on the right and you walk on the left. I find people annoying who stand on the left, blocking the whole thing. I find people who shout at the left-standers about what retards they are even worse.
Quote from: Razgovory on September 21, 2012, 11:47:37 PM
Quote from: garbon on September 21, 2012, 11:41:55 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on September 21, 2012, 11:39:59 PM
The purpose of an escalator is to move faster, not to ride the thing. If you get on one and stop, I hate you.
Based on this thread I've surmised that you hate a lot of things.
MiM also crawls up elevator shafts when he doesn't feel the elevator is moving fast enough.
:D
Quote from: Syt on September 22, 2012, 01:59:36 AM
On escalators, you stand on the right and you walk on the left.
:yes:
Indeed you do, even in England :)
Really? In Britain I thought we stood on the left and walked on the right? Been so long and I rarely went to places with them that I really can't remember! :lol:
In Japan that is a well observed difference between the Tokyo area and the Osaka area.
In the Tokyo area you stand on the left and walk on the right. In Osaka you stand on the right and walk on the left. It really is rather cool to see everything the same but different.
To return to the subject of holding doors open, I do that for anyone if they are walking quite close behind me and the alternative is letting the door close as they approach it. If they are sufficiently far behind that the door will close and come to a stop before they reach it then I don't hold the door for them. If someone is approaching the door and is disabled or pushing a buggy then I'll make a more substantial effort to hold the door open for them, IMO that goes beyond etiquette though and is genuinely helpful rather than simple courtesy.
No woman has ever lambasted me for holding a door open for her, I find it hard to imagine that someone could be so ridiculous. However, similar to Yi's experience, some older women just sail past without any acknowledgment, which strikes me as rather discourteous.
Quote from: Tyr on September 22, 2012, 03:33:42 AM
Really? In Britain I thought we stood on the left and walked on the right? Been so long and I rarely went to places with them that I really can't remember! :lol:
In Japan that is a well observed difference between the Tokyo area and the Osaka area.
In the Tokyo area you stand on the left and walk on the right. In Osaka you stand on the right and walk on the left. It really is rather cool to see everything the same but different.
It is definitely the case on the London Underground. I'm fairly sure it's the same on the Tyneside Metro too, but can't summon up an actual memory to confirm it :hmm:
Don't chat with me at the urinals. Don't even act like you see me.
Quote from: garbon on September 22, 2012, 08:16:37 AM
Don't chat with me at the urinals. Don't even act like you see me.
:lol: I hate that.
Quote from: garbon on September 22, 2012, 08:16:37 AM
Don't chat with me at the urinals. Don't even act like you see me.
OK, Mart.
I pee in the stall.
Quote from: HVC on September 21, 2012, 06:13:41 PM
that happened to me once at the mall. i just replied "sorry, i thought you were a man". The shut her up long enough for me to walk away.
"It's not because you're a woman, it's because of your age" also works. Not that I've ever had opportunity to use it.
Quote from: HVC on September 21, 2012, 09:06:40 PM
If you want to stand, stand to the right. Also, if you're in a group of people don't fucking stand in the middle of a sidewalk or path you inconsiderate mother fuckers ( I'm looking at you Asian people :P ).
This, also walking slowly 3 or 4 abreast so you block the entire hallway/sidewalk.
I hold doors for people, walk on the left stand on the right and let cars merge in front of me. I say please and thank you.
I also have no problem been an asshole to people who do not do these things. I will repeat a good morning and look people in the eyes, I will loudly say "excuse me" and push my way up the left side of an airport escalator, I will say thank you even though I opened the door for some ungrateful bitch (I'll check her ass too). It is so easy to be polite.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 22, 2012, 08:29:47 AM
Quote from: garbon on September 22, 2012, 08:16:37 AM
Don't chat with me at the urinals. Don't even act like you see me.
:lol: I hate that.
Same. The other day at work I had to have like an entire conversation with a guy while we're both standing there holding our dicks. <_<
You civilians with shy bladders. :lol:
I can talk to people at urinals, or the shitters. Now the open bay showers conversation is a bit awkward.
Quote from: Caliga on September 22, 2012, 03:18:44 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 22, 2012, 08:29:47 AM
Quote from: garbon on September 22, 2012, 08:16:37 AM
Don't chat with me at the urinals. Don't even act like you see me.
:lol: I hate that.
Same. The other day at work I had to have like an entire conversation with a guy while we're both standing there holding our dicks. <_<
dont need to hear about your work circle jerks.
Quote from: garbon on September 22, 2012, 08:16:37 AM
Don't chat with me at the urinals. Don't even act like you see me.
For the Homosexual, the penis is like an alter. Do not bother him while he is praying at it.
Quote from: katmai on September 22, 2012, 08:08:57 PM
dont need to hear about your work circle jerks.
This coming from a guy that's in an industry with terms like "boom mike", "clapper board", "key grip" and "best boy".
Who saw the thread going in this direction? Not me, that's for sure. :huh:
No one calls them clapperboard anymore older timer.
Quote from: katmai on September 22, 2012, 09:53:15 PM
No one calls them clapperboard anymore older timer.
What are they called now? What do they use now? iPads?
Slates, sync slates. And actually know some folks using app and iPad for it. I just have old school one.
Quote from: Razgovory on September 22, 2012, 09:42:22 PM
Quote from: garbon on September 22, 2012, 08:16:37 AM
Don't chat with me at the urinals. Don't even act like you see me.
For the Homosexual, the penis is like an alter. Do not bother him while he is praying at it.
I've no idea what you're on about as homosexuals are the only ones with a likelihood of checking out other men's dicks.
Quote from: Razgovory on September 22, 2012, 09:42:22 PM
Quote from: garbon on September 22, 2012, 08:16:37 AM
Don't chat with me at the urinals. Don't even act like you see me.
For the Homosexual, the penis is like an alter. Do not bother him while he is praying at it.
It's ALTAR. Not ALTER.
And don't smoke in high-traffic areas.
Quote from: Martinus on September 23, 2012, 02:16:12 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on September 22, 2012, 09:42:22 PM
Quote from: garbon on September 22, 2012, 08:16:37 AM
Don't chat with me at the urinals. Don't even act like you see me.
For the Homosexual, the penis is like an alter. Do not bother him while he is praying at it.
It's ALTAR. Not ALTER.
It would look a little strange if I capitalized every letter, wouldn't it?