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Title: Purple Haze.
Post by: mongers on September 13, 2012, 07:10:38 PM
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I was looking for a particular war photographer, and came across this blog:
http://dogatemytank.tumblr.com/ (http://dogatemytank.tumblr.com/)

It seems to be dominated by American photographs from Vietnam and to a lesser extent Korea and WW2.

Some interesting photos, though slightly annoying as I can't seem to see the tags or if there are any attributes or mention of the context and origins of the war photo-journalism, but none the less some startling images.


For some reason it's called dog ate my tank, and is run by a young Polish woman whose into wargaming and ancient history.

I rather 'like' this one:
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I guess it might be from the Anglo-French intervention in Norway 1940 or perhaps Italy 43 or NW Europe in the winter of 1944-5

Anyone else got a 'favourite' war photograph, please post it.



edit:
there are more modern images, like this one, which I presume is from Afghanistan.

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Title: Re: Purple Haze.
Post by: mongers on September 13, 2012, 07:39:03 PM
Id guess Vietnam, but since I don't know anything about US equipment, it could possibly be even WW2 pacific.

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Title: Re: Purple Haze.
Post by: mongers on September 13, 2012, 07:43:12 PM
More Vietnam, Americans and Vietnamese civilians:
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F24.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_lrosvs600C1r0che3o1_1280.jpg&hash=b0d03fe51dee07610eec74d95bc41e11a36b8f5d)

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F25.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_lroq7sS2vO1r0che3o1_1280.jpg&hash=db62a653b1328ee506d0f781afb97a2575a9d6ae)

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F24.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_lrc48kYCGe1r0che3o1_1280.jpg&hash=482276ce63923f33009ef9f0cabfe0d45075f64d)

Title: Re: Purple Haze.
Post by: mongers on September 13, 2012, 07:50:24 PM
I'd guess the Tet Offensive attack on the US embassy in Saigon:

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edit:
turns out some of the photos do have tags in the meta-file info:
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A machine gunner with the 7th Marines takes a break during Operation Meade River near the city of Da Nang, November 1968
Title: Re: Purple Haze.
Post by: KRonn on September 13, 2012, 07:53:14 PM
Agreed, some very interesting pics. 
Title: Re: Purple Haze.
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 13, 2012, 07:56:09 PM
8th Army chaplain plays the violin for HQ staff somewhere west of El Alamein.

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Title: Re: Purple Haze.
Post by: mongers on September 13, 2012, 07:56:34 PM
'Cool dube' with a M79 grenade launcher:

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F24.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_lpom1nD5pR1r0che3o1_r1_1280.jpg&hash=fe9f802039b665c58d8dff3fe5e34bea7e562fd8)

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F25.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_lqte9sWN0T1r0che3o1_1280.jpg&hash=af15a0ea9367a1ab280b805cc4ce5367fc381366)

I'd guess Australian soldiers in Vietnam:
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F24.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_lr9z237IYJ1r0che3o1_1280.jpg&hash=fc02a1bf80198099914db016504b53c6f4173722)

Taking cover:
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Title: Re: Purple Haze.
Post by: mongers on September 13, 2012, 07:59:49 PM
Visitors:
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(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F25.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_lpfcrrIA0k1r0che3o1_1280.jpg&hash=cec4991d4e32ecd0eaf17d23fd09a9857847fb83)
Title: Re: Purple Haze.
Post by: Ed Anger on September 13, 2012, 08:01:33 PM
Ugh. Westmorland.
Title: Re: Purple Haze.
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 13, 2012, 08:09:28 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 13, 2012, 08:01:33 PM
Ugh. Westmorland.

Talk about the wrong guy at the wrong time.

Should've given the whole shebang to Brute Krulak instead.  He'd have taken care of business.
Title: Re: Purple Haze.
Post by: Ed Anger on September 13, 2012, 08:12:14 PM
Well, I'm gonna have to watch Green Berets again.
Title: Re: Purple Haze.
Post by: mongers on September 13, 2012, 08:14:15 PM
Helicopters.

This must be from the very early days, before the Hueys arrived, I'm guessing it's a H21, shot down or maybe crash landed and perhaps the soldier/airman is sprinting because it might catch fire or maybe he's rigged it to explode:

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Hueys:
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Are these ARVN allies, rather than Americans, as they seem rather lightly loaded:
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edit:
Image metafile says " Vietnamese soldiers of the 21st Recon Company rush to board waiting Huey choppers in the rice paddies near their forward command post in South Vietnam on Nov. 14, 1969. The men are to be transported into the interior of the U-Minh forest, the large marshy and swamp and forest area at the southern tip of Vietnam, long considered to be a VC strong-hold. For the previous month, an all Vietnamese operation called "Operation u-minh" had been attempting to drive the VC and NVA regulars from the area. It was the second such operation within the year. (AP Photo)

A skycrane delivering 105/155 howitzers:
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Title: Re: Purple Haze.
Post by: mongers on September 13, 2012, 08:19:05 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 13, 2012, 08:12:14 PM
Well, I'm gonna have to watch Green Berets again.

Here, this one could almost be a 'publicity still' from the film, it looks to be of the same era, the sign says 1966:

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Title: Re: Purple Haze.
Post by: mongers on September 13, 2012, 08:24:56 PM
Almost looks posed, but I guess it isn't.  The colours seem very evocative :
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F24.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_lrfg7177eY1r0che3o1_1280.jpg&hash=a8081deb6eb682b84a45d55407a82e09972f29df)

This one has a foreground, background and some action in the middle distance ! I'm guessing the guy are leaning on the recovered helo rotas:
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Title: Re: Purple Haze.
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 13, 2012, 08:27:27 PM
Quote from: mongers on September 13, 2012, 08:24:56 PM
The colours seem very evocative :

Yes, it's called "film".  Something the Facepage Tweeter generation no longer knows about anymore.
Title: Re: Purple Haze.
Post by: mongers on September 13, 2012, 08:27:50 PM
Some impressive flying:

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More 'purple haze'
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Title: Re: Purple Haze.
Post by: mongers on September 13, 2012, 08:32:30 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 13, 2012, 08:27:27 PM
Quote from: mongers on September 13, 2012, 08:24:56 PM
The colours seem very evocative :

Yes, it's called "film".  Something the Facepage Tweeter generation no longer knows about anymore.

Well I meant to say, that the tv coverage we'd have seen of Vietnam would have been in black and white, iirc we only saw colour film of the war from about 72 onward, maybe even later after the US had withdrawn, where as Americans would have seen color tv coverage from quite a bit earlier, might have Tet have been broadcast in color ?
I can certainly remember later seeing color footage from the fighting in Hue, would that have been on the nightly news in color ? 

edit:
this one is much more wash out, perhaps a from video , a screen grab or from a film report broadcast at a later date ?

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Title: Re: Purple Haze.
Post by: katmai on September 13, 2012, 08:34:58 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 13, 2012, 08:27:27 PM
Quote from: mongers on September 13, 2012, 08:24:56 PM
The colours seem very evocative :

Yes, it's called "film".  Something the Facepage Tweeter generation no longer knows about anymore.

They have an app for that.
Title: Re: Purple Haze.
Post by: mongers on September 13, 2012, 08:37:55 PM
Quote from: katmai on September 13, 2012, 08:34:58 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 13, 2012, 08:27:27 PM
Quote from: mongers on September 13, 2012, 08:24:56 PM
The colours seem very evocative :

Yes, it's called "film".  Something the Facepage Tweeter generation no longer knows about anymore.

They have an app for that.

Worth nearly a $ billion or two quid fifty.
Title: Re: Purple Haze.
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 13, 2012, 08:41:22 PM
Quote from: katmai on September 13, 2012, 08:34:58 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 13, 2012, 08:27:27 PM
Quote from: mongers on September 13, 2012, 08:24:56 PM
The colours seem very evocative :

Yes, it's called "film".  Something the Facepage Tweeter generation no longer knows about anymore.

They have an app for that.

I know.  I don't want to hear about it.
Title: Re: Purple Haze.
Post by: mongers on September 13, 2012, 08:42:55 PM
Casualties:

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.
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Title: Re: Purple Haze.
Post by: mongers on September 13, 2012, 08:45:51 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 13, 2012, 08:41:22 PM
Quote from: katmai on September 13, 2012, 08:34:58 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 13, 2012, 08:27:27 PM
Quote from: mongers on September 13, 2012, 08:24:56 PM
The colours seem very evocative :

Yes, it's called "film".  Something the Facepage Tweeter generation no longer knows about anymore.

They have an app for that.

I know.  I don't want to hear about it.

The colours in this one seem so 'authentic' it looks like it's from a modern film, rather than a 40 year old conflict.

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F24.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_lrfgtxZFIY1r0che3o1_1280.jpg&hash=9271ce54d14bf7b906b3bf58188b54d80f2c3634)
Title: Re: Purple Haze.
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 13, 2012, 08:50:05 PM
Quote from: mongers on September 13, 2012, 08:45:51 PM
The colours in this one seem so 'authentic' it looks like it's from a modern film, rather than a 40 year old conflict.

The rules of photography don't change;  shutter quality of the camera, quality of the lens, and quality of the film speed matter.

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.all-that-is-interesting.com%2Fwordpress%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F09%2Fjfk-lbj-cape-canaveral.jpg&hash=435465cf88a43a75ef77a79fbe21eb893759546b)

JFK and the boys touring the new Cape Canaveral mission center.  Pre-Dallas, obviously.

Title: Re: Purple Haze.
Post by: Ed Anger on September 13, 2012, 08:57:59 PM
LBJ looks bored. :lol:
Title: Re: Purple Haze.
Post by: mongers on September 13, 2012, 08:58:27 PM
Is this a combat photo, or perhaps its from training ?

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F25.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_lpmruafMbW1r0che3o1_1280.jpg&hash=9c6529788a1ac18749e295a58450c337e4e36620)

Didn't have ear defenders in those days, US Marines on the back of an M48.

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F25.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_lr9zrgYT891r0che3o1_1280.jpg&hash=a61b04ac94b400f33252443dff331e5c89ed8088)

Very different way going about fighting compare to todays images:
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F24.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_lo4se8p3PE1qbmzz0o1_1280.jpg&hash=81868b14b7a0f205a0a2973eac473ec7e232fea9)
Title: Re: Purple Haze.
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 13, 2012, 09:02:15 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 13, 2012, 08:57:59 PM
LBJ looks bored. :lol:

Of course.  Nothing to shoot at.

I like the Dr Strangelove dude behind and to the right of JFK.  Smoking? With sunglasses indoors?  Gotta be a V-2 Kraut.
Title: Re: Purple Haze.
Post by: Ed Anger on September 13, 2012, 09:04:00 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 13, 2012, 09:02:15 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 13, 2012, 08:57:59 PM
LBJ looks bored. :lol:

Of course.  Nothing to shoot at.

I like the Dr Strangelove dude behind and to the right of JFK.  Smoking? With sunglasses indoors?  Gotta be a V-2 Kraut.

Yeah, he's got the euro grip on the smokes.
Title: Re: Purple Haze.
Post by: mongers on September 13, 2012, 09:05:17 PM
That's a bit close, looks like an ammo dump on fire perhaps at Khe Sanh

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F25.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_lpbh42LRim1r0che3o1_1280.jpg&hash=598c308f2fd9130bcf2e054e10bfb8fefd00b983)

Don't know where in Vietnam this is:
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F25.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_lqen5p4UPe1r0che3o1_1280.jpg&hash=f71447fb02a2fe184f2bb77c6c7f81cb300e4d6c)
Title: Re: Purple Haze.
Post by: mongers on September 13, 2012, 09:08:48 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 13, 2012, 09:04:00 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 13, 2012, 09:02:15 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 13, 2012, 08:57:59 PM
LBJ looks bored. :lol:

Of course.  Nothing to shoot at.

I like the Dr Strangelove dude behind and to the right of JFK.  Smoking? With sunglasses indoors?  Gotta be a V-2 Kraut.

Yeah, he's got the euro grip on the smokes.

Well it could even have been taken at the same time that Dr.Strangelove was being filmed.

Notice the 60s linoleum floor tiles and the very rudimentary presentation of the fare for the VIPs, just small folding tables covered with a cloth, are those yellow disks ashtrays ?
Title: Re: Purple Haze.
Post by: Ed Anger on September 13, 2012, 09:10:53 PM
I still run across chairs like that at wright patt afb.
Title: Re: Purple Haze.
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 13, 2012, 09:11:41 PM
Quote from: mongers on September 13, 2012, 09:08:48 PM
Well it could even have been taken at the same time that Dr.Strangelove was being filmed.

Notice the 60s linoleum floor tiles and the very rudimentary presentation of the fare for the VIPs, just small folding tables covered with a cloth, are those yellow disks ashtrays ?

It was 1962, Mongers.  It's what 1962 looked like:  very 60s.  What with it, you know, being all 1962 and shit.
Title: Re: Purple Haze.
Post by: Ed Anger on September 13, 2012, 09:12:52 PM
I miss that decor. That and the 70's.
Title: Re: Purple Haze.
Post by: mongers on September 13, 2012, 09:13:18 PM
Sentry, Vietnam possibly Korea, still the job doesn't change nor the boredom:

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F25.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_lpfamwipYt1r0che3o1_1280.jpg&hash=9e0ded25796decd4b8e933547f3af58c4595b9ea)

Seigy might appreciate this one:
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Title: Re: Purple Haze.
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 13, 2012, 09:14:30 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 13, 2012, 09:12:52 PM
I miss that decor. That and the 70's.

Fuck that 70s shit, all flowers and whatnot.  1958-1967 is where real decor was at, baby.  Living La Vida Swinging Bachelor Pad.
Title: Re: Purple Haze.
Post by: mongers on September 13, 2012, 09:16:19 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 13, 2012, 09:11:41 PM
Quote from: mongers on September 13, 2012, 09:08:48 PM
Well it could even have been taken at the same time that Dr.Strangelove was being filmed.

Notice the 60s linoleum floor tiles and the very rudimentary presentation of the fare for the VIPs, just small folding tables covered with a cloth, are those yellow disks ashtrays ?

It was 1962, Mongers.  It's what 1962 looked like:  very 60s.  What with it, you know, being all 1962 and shit.

:lol:

Yeah, but the young'uns here don't appreciate that there was a time before electronic gadgets, when people used to just carry around a wallet, change, smokes, a lighter and golf tees in their pockets.
Title: Re: Purple Haze.
Post by: Ed Anger on September 13, 2012, 09:17:30 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 13, 2012, 09:14:30 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 13, 2012, 09:12:52 PM
I miss that decor. That and the 70's.

Fuck that 70s shit, all flowers and whatnot.  1958-1967 is where real decor was at, baby.  Living La Vida Swinging Bachelor Pad.

Dude, making love on a shag carpet rocks.
Title: Re: Purple Haze.
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 13, 2012, 09:19:01 PM
Quote from: mongers on September 13, 2012, 09:16:19 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 13, 2012, 09:11:41 PM
Quote from: mongers on September 13, 2012, 09:08:48 PM
Well it could even have been taken at the same time that Dr.Strangelove was being filmed.

Notice the 60s linoleum floor tiles and the very rudimentary presentation of the fare for the VIPs, just small folding tables covered with a cloth, are those yellow disks ashtrays ?

It was 1962, Mongers.  It's what 1962 looked like:  very 60s.  What with it, you know, being all 1962 and shit.

:lol:

Yeah, but the young'uns here don't appreciate that there was a time before electronic gadgets, when people used to just carry around a wallet, change, smokes, a lighter and golf tees in their pockets.

Yeah, good times.  And some of us are old enough to remember some of that the 60s decor stuff still lying around the house when we were little.  Or, in grumbler's case, the 1860's.
Title: Re: Purple Haze.
Post by: mongers on September 13, 2012, 09:20:24 PM
This could be a still from a Kubrick movie:

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F25.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_lp28gjIvhi1r0che3o1_1280.jpg&hash=9b727ce8695f15f8a1c4ea746b5cafa5fc35bdb6)

This however I don't think the budget would have stretched too:
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F25.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_lp26tbeV2q1r0che3o1_r1_1280.jpg&hash=8dfcf037a8a24e8edd5b619c937029f31434c0b8)

Why don't we see footage of napalm any more, is it because it's too untidy and messy for modern sanitized televisual wars ?
Title: Re: Purple Haze.
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 13, 2012, 09:51:35 PM
Quote from: mongers on September 13, 2012, 09:20:24 PM
Why don't we see footage of napalm any more, is it because it's too untidy and messy for modern sanitized televisual wars ?

Where they've been dropped the last 10 years, not so many cameramen around.  Gulf War 1 saw a shitload of napalm dropped on the IRG, but no cameramen.  Same with Afghanistan, but FAEs are much better.

And, after the Iraq War, we're certainly not dropping any where any faggoty Brits can see it and squeal to the UN about it.

Title: Re: Purple Haze.
Post by: mongers on September 13, 2012, 10:03:58 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 13, 2012, 09:51:35 PM
Quote from: mongers on September 13, 2012, 09:20:24 PM
Why don't we see footage of napalm any more, is it because it's too untidy and messy for modern sanitized televisual wars ?

Where they've been dropped the last 10 years, not so many cameramen around.  Gulf War 1 saw a shitload of napalm dropped on the IRG, but no cameramen.  Same with Afghanistan, but FAEs are much better.

And, after the Iraq War, we're certainly not dropping any where any faggoty Brits can see it and squeal to the UN about it.

I'm not against it's use, pretty much all weapons should be used as war isn't a nice thing, so to pretend otherwise is silly and manipulative.

Just as not showing war dead, enemy, civilian or your own side is an active form of propaganda, hey look war is clean. 

Also why I'm in favour of drafting MPs, senator and congresmen's children.   :D
Title: Re: Purple Haze.
Post by: mongers on September 13, 2012, 10:06:41 PM
I like this one, fraternisation ?

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F24.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_lq51ox1p2F1r0che3o1_1280.jpg&hash=94eb22fca75f119bfc8d0f52eb8982947bbd0bf4)
Title: Re: Purple Haze.
Post by: Razgovory on September 13, 2012, 10:08:17 PM
I didn't even know Napalm was used anymore.  Fuck, remember how bitchy everyone got when they were using WP in Fallujah?
Title: Re: Purple Haze.
Post by: Capetan Mihali on September 13, 2012, 11:28:47 PM
Quote from: mongers on September 13, 2012, 10:03:58 PM
Also why I'm in favour of drafting MPs, senator and congresmen's children.   :D

What's your stance on drafting warmongers?
Title: Re: Purple Haze.
Post by: Habbaku on September 14, 2012, 12:33:34 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 13, 2012, 09:02:15 PM
I like the Dr Strangelove dude behind and to the right of JFK.  Smoking? With sunglasses indoors?  Gotta be a V-2 Kraut.

Mein Fuhrer!  I can walk!
Title: Re: Purple Haze.
Post by: Grey Fox on September 14, 2012, 07:27:44 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 13, 2012, 09:19:01 PM
Quote from: mongers on September 13, 2012, 09:16:19 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 13, 2012, 09:11:41 PM
Quote from: mongers on September 13, 2012, 09:08:48 PM
Well it could even have been taken at the same time that Dr.Strangelove was being filmed.

Notice the 60s linoleum floor tiles and the very rudimentary presentation of the fare for the VIPs, just small folding tables covered with a cloth, are those yellow disks ashtrays ?

It was 1962, Mongers.  It's what 1962 looked like:  very 60s.  What with it, you know, being all 1962 and shit.

:lol:

Yeah, but the young'uns here don't appreciate that there was a time before electronic gadgets, when people used to just carry around a wallet, change, smokes, a lighter and golf tees in their pockets.

Yeah, good times.  And some of us are old enough to remember some of that the 60s decor stuff still lying around the house when we were little.  Or, in grumbler's case, the 1860's.

Shit, my aunt still has all her 60's furniture. The paint colors & the LCD TVs are the give dead away, it's a time long passed.
Title: Re: Purple Haze.
Post by: The Brain on September 14, 2012, 12:45:26 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on September 14, 2012, 07:27:44 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 13, 2012, 09:19:01 PM
Quote from: mongers on September 13, 2012, 09:16:19 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 13, 2012, 09:11:41 PM
Quote from: mongers on September 13, 2012, 09:08:48 PM
Well it could even have been taken at the same time that Dr.Strangelove was being filmed.

Notice the 60s linoleum floor tiles and the very rudimentary presentation of the fare for the VIPs, just small folding tables covered with a cloth, are those yellow disks ashtrays ?

It was 1962, Mongers.  It's what 1962 looked like:  very 60s.  What with it, you know, being all 1962 and shit.

:lol:

Yeah, but the young'uns here don't appreciate that there was a time before electronic gadgets, when people used to just carry around a wallet, change, smokes, a lighter and golf tees in their pockets.

Yeah, good times.  And some of us are old enough to remember some of that the 60s decor stuff still lying around the house when we were little.  Or, in grumbler's case, the 1860's.

Shit, my aunt still has all her 60's furniture. The paint colors & the LCD TVs are the give dead away, it's a time long passed.

:hmm:
Title: Re: Purple Haze.
Post by: garbon on September 14, 2012, 01:54:42 PM
Quote from: mongers on September 13, 2012, 08:58:27 PM
Very different way going about fighting compare to todays images:
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This one looks like the start of a gay porno. :blush:
Title: Re: Purple Haze.
Post by: Syt on September 15, 2012, 08:30:42 AM
Pictures from the USSR's Vietnam:

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv43%2FWedbert%2F1_010.jpg&hash=29d79c45fed066ce7b7727667c74f8bb130761c6)

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F4.bp.blogspot.com%2F-iwogVqq-A2E%2FT7-mvzc3j6I%2FAAAAAAAAAhw%2FEGn9dItMe3o%2Fs1600%2FSoviet%2BArmy%2BAfghanistan.jpg&hash=5ff5628fbfe14873ef5cd797e0e65e73d04cf6fc)

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fenglishrussia.com%2Fimages%2Fafghanistan_troops%2F1.jpg&hash=2722ddf1a235c0aebc64af2fb8e68610441774c1)

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fenglishrussia.com%2Fimages%2Fafghanistan_troops%2F1_001.jpg&hash=e239970632f3d64b5a6c0440e2393142debf62a2)

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F3.bp.blogspot.com%2F_8TPNkDWHv8I%2FSupz9xWrpiI%2FAAAAAAAAAMc%2F_x8fR4Z5Rf4%2Fs640%2Fussr%2Bafghanistan%2Bwar-13.jpg&hash=822e62521b8b78ccd7e1c18f611ca75fec6ecbe2)

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wired.com%2Fimages_blogs%2Fdangerroom%2F2010%2F02%2Fsoviet_astan_pamphlet.jpg&hash=e61a9d1ba1f1fb10aad560c1098ecc4d9d45b7ba)
Title: Re: Purple Haze.
Post by: mongers on September 15, 2012, 03:16:43 PM
Nice ones Syt, especially from a relatively under photographed war.
Title: Re: Purple Haze.
Post by: The Brain on September 15, 2012, 03:22:05 PM
Yeah, cause Russians and Afghanis photograph so well. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Purple Haze.
Post by: mongers on September 15, 2012, 04:09:13 PM
Korea:
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Title: Re: Purple Haze.
Post by: mongers on September 15, 2012, 04:13:25 PM
I'm guessing both of these are in Italy during WW2:
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Title: Re: Purple Haze.
Post by: mongers on September 15, 2012, 04:24:29 PM
'Dogs of War'
Australians in Vietnam:
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South Vietnam --- 2/4/1971- Near the Laotian Border, South Vietnam: They've made their way to their Laotian border position and now it's time for members of A Troop, 1st Cav., 23rd Infantry Divison to wait for their orders, here Feb 4th. Sp.4 Ruckie D. Bostic of New Castle, VA., spends some of his time on a cigarette break comforting his two tired pups as he rests against the treads of one of his outfit's armored vehicles
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Goats of war ?
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Title: Re: Purple Haze.
Post by: mongers on September 15, 2012, 04:25:21 PM
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Title: Re: Purple Haze.
Post by: mongers on September 15, 2012, 04:27:37 PM
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F24.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_lpqg42KC6S1r0che3o1_1280.jpg&hash=52916ed3fcb01db5da575eb2170500605d87f2bc)
Title: Re: Purple Haze.
Post by: mongers on September 15, 2012, 04:31:37 PM
Could be Dien Bien Phu ?

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F25.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_lp2hwjmnMQ1r0che3o1_1280.jpg&hash=e23402762d56384ea4538e5303ce9b9e596bfa12)
Title: Re: Purple Haze.
Post by: mongers on September 15, 2012, 04:33:12 PM
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Title: Re: Purple Haze.
Post by: mongers on September 15, 2012, 04:37:42 PM
I like the expressions; where is it, NW Europe, D-day, are they resting or perhaps captured ? 
Though I'd think the white cabling around the guys' neck is detonator cord or electrical cabling.

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F25.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_lpkrx6v7FL1r0che3o1_r1_1280.gif&hash=a8285d72ac52583446d4fef5221ef6b24420ed35)
Title: Re: Purple Haze.
Post by: mongers on September 15, 2012, 04:42:05 PM
Iraq or Afghanistan:
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F24.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_lqlnyoSYwx1r0che3o1_1280.jpg&hash=6b68e896eac4d07fe5c87bd680f239f54009de26)

on July 10, 2009 in Kandahar, Afghanistan:
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Title: Re: Purple Haze.
Post by: mongers on September 15, 2012, 04:47:04 PM
Taking the high ground, 40 or more years apart:

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F25.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_lpmseql2Tt1r0che3o1_1280.jpg&hash=90318145920840095900970e1f6537f1e9688de1)


(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F24.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_lqebpgUDRW1r0che3o1_1280.jpg&hash=d457015722bec7fa45b730a6a943816aeb32999c)
Scouts from 2nd Battalion, 503rd Infantry Regiment (Airborne), pull overwatch during Operation Destined Strike while 2nd Platoon, Able Company searches a village below the Chowkay Valley in Kunar Province, Afghanistan Aug. 22. 2007 (?)
Title: Re: Purple Haze.
Post by: mongers on September 15, 2012, 04:51:59 PM
More Vietnam:

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F25.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_lp9si0eRSx1r0che3o1_1280.jpg&hash=2e0b08d43beac8c8130f3c239a7d725e8a45142b)

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F24.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_lqtheyT4FX1r0che3o1_1280.jpg&hash=975d907cda901e68caad7ad1cbfb6d257839844d)

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F24.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_lrn1t4m7dD1r0che3o1_1280.jpg&hash=bc1647b11b4ae8ddd86d68ac9dbf8563bae44e94)

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F25.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_lph14y8dgk1r0che3o1_r1_1280.jpg&hash=634da3af6475aeb69eafbd7112ca97f03031fcfb)

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F25.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_lrc5r1P8gK1r0che3o1_1280.jpg&hash=8eb279231ab775a3fbf731760b1bb59a44e99189)
Title: Re: Purple Haze.
Post by: mongers on September 15, 2012, 04:56:14 PM
Execution, formal and informal:

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F24.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_lqx21h64Qw1r0che3o1_1280.jpg&hash=180903ea827e5c8daf8eeda2a240d1ccd2981ab5)
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Title: Re: Purple Haze.
Post by: mongers on September 15, 2012, 05:00:34 PM
Somewhere England ??

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F25.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_lq109qIPou1r0che3o1_r1_1280.jpg&hash=89c1e7a889066213204ec7570e1585cc5ae69918)

In the Pacific ?
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During a Warsaw uprising:
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Iwo Jima ?
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Title: Re: Purple Haze.
Post by: mongers on September 15, 2012, 05:03:15 PM
And Finally, to me this one 'says' a great deal about the condition that is modern conflict:

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The battle for Saigon 1968.
Title: Re: Purple Haze.
Post by: Ed Anger on September 15, 2012, 07:22:10 PM
Quote from: mongers on September 15, 2012, 05:00:34 PM
Somewhere England ??

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F25.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_lq109qIPou1r0che3o1_r1_1280.jpg&hash=89c1e7a889066213204ec7570e1585cc5ae69918)



Seriously dude, you have to wonder about that one?
Title: Re: Purple Haze.
Post by: Malthus on September 16, 2012, 05:45:34 PM
Any idea when the execution ones are, and who is being executed? I'm guessing WW2/Nazis.
Title: Re: Purple Haze.
Post by: Ed Anger on September 16, 2012, 05:58:30 PM
Quote from: Malthus on September 16, 2012, 05:45:34 PM
Any idea when the execution ones are, and who is being executed? I'm guessing WW2/Nazis.
Going on memory:


1st one is battle of the bulge, German in American uniform getting wacked.

2nd one is Dachau camp guards getting it. By paratroopers I think.
Title: Re: Purple Haze.
Post by: mongers on September 16, 2012, 09:04:16 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 16, 2012, 05:58:30 PM
Quote from: Malthus on September 16, 2012, 05:45:34 PM
Any idea when the execution ones are, and who is being executed? I'm guessing WW2/Nazis.
Going on memory:


1st one is battle of the bulge, German in American uniform getting wacked.

2nd one is Dachau camp guards getting it. By paratroopers I think.

Yes, on the money with that.

I recognised the 2nd photo as it's fairly famous; details here at this wiki page which bizarrely calls the events the Dachau massacre, almost as if not much had taken place along those lines until then:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dachau_massacre#cite_note-AP-10 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dachau_massacre#cite_note-AP-10)
Title: Re: Purple Haze.
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 16, 2012, 09:06:28 PM
Fuck 'em.  Next time don't get caught in a US uniform, or sticking around long enough to keep running the EZ-Bake Jew ovens.
Title: Re: Purple Haze.
Post by: Ed Anger on September 16, 2012, 09:18:29 PM
Martim cried.
Title: Re: Purple Haze.
Post by: mongers on September 16, 2012, 09:28:29 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 16, 2012, 09:06:28 PM
Fuck 'em.  Next time don't get caught in a US uniform, or sticking around long enough to keep running the EZ-Bake Jew ovens.

The Americans seemed to have acted with restraint; in the case of the 'spies' the three photographed at execution had had a trial along with another 10-12 executed elsewhere.
Indeed Skorenzy, was put on trial for planning and commanding the commandos and he was found not guilty, not least because a British SOE agent testified in his defence that he'd similarly warn enemy uniforms.

Indeed the US even conducted an investigation into the killing of SS camp guards and other Germans at the concentration camp, going so far as to consider court martials, before clearer heads prevailed ( Patton's).
Title: Re: Purple Haze.
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 16, 2012, 09:46:33 PM
Quote from: mongers on September 16, 2012, 09:28:29 PM
The Americans seemed to have acted with restraint;

Contrary to popular belief, we usually do.
Title: Re: Purple Haze.
Post by: Ed Anger on September 16, 2012, 09:48:41 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 16, 2012, 09:46:33 PM
Quote from: mongers on September 16, 2012, 09:28:29 PM
The Americans seemed to have acted with restraint;

Contrary to popular belief, we usually do.

We'll loot everything not nailed down though.
Title: Re: Purple Haze.
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 16, 2012, 10:00:37 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 16, 2012, 09:48:41 PM
We'll loot everything not nailed down though.

Fucking A.

"That wouldn't have been necessary if that sesesh woman hadn't started it."
Title: Re: Purple Haze.
Post by: Jaron on September 16, 2012, 10:05:18 PM
Needs more raspberry berets.
Title: Re: Purple Haze.
Post by: garbon on September 16, 2012, 10:22:06 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 16, 2012, 09:48:41 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 16, 2012, 09:46:33 PM
Quote from: mongers on September 16, 2012, 09:28:29 PM
The Americans seemed to have acted with restraint;

Contrary to popular belief, we usually do.

We'll loot everything not nailed down though.

I believe white Americans just liberate.
Title: Re: Purple Haze.
Post by: Razgovory on September 17, 2012, 02:06:15 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 16, 2012, 09:18:29 PM
Martim cried.

Now that was a funny thread.
Title: Re: Purple Haze.
Post by: jimmy olsen on September 17, 2012, 03:57:25 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on September 13, 2012, 10:08:17 PM
I didn't even know Napalm was used anymore.  Fuck, remember how bitchy everyone got when they were using WP in Fallujah?
IIRC the military has tweaked the chemical formula and used that as an excuse to rename it. It's just the MK 77 incendiary bomb now.