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Title: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: mongers on August 01, 2012, 07:58:17 PM
What additional sports do you think should be included in future Olympics and which ones should be withdrawn. 

I'd like to see cricket in as well as Kabaddi, if for no other reason than the sporting enthusiasm of a large chunk of humanity are excluded from the Olympics.

Now that baseball is getting more popular, I think it could be included, am assuming it isn't at London, though I haven't checked.  I seem to recall it's been at other Olympics.

Personally I think some of the martial arts could be cut back or at the very least some of the numerous weight categories trimmed as they produce a preponderance of medals in the overall totals.
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: Admiral Yi on August 01, 2012, 07:59:22 PM
Mixed martial arts.

:D
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: Valmy on August 01, 2012, 08:04:48 PM
Horse archery  :)

Central Asia's #1 sport for three thousand years must be represented.

And of course Baseball and Softball need to be back in.  Japan and Cuba need more medals.  They were cut from these games I think because London did not want to build the facilities.  But surely Brazil has a few baseball parks.
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: Josquius on August 01, 2012, 08:11:31 PM
Football in the olympics is just pointless. The olympics should be about the best athletes in the world, with football though its just whcihever randomers from each country fancy playing.

Karate should be in as should some sort of speed climbing and skateboarding.
And to bring back the Victorian classic, the tug of war, would be fantastic.
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: mongers on August 01, 2012, 08:12:49 PM
I'd also say perhaps they could cut back on the number of rowing events, it is after all mainly toffs sitting down in something that floats on water.  :P
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: mongers on August 01, 2012, 08:15:09 PM
Quote from: Tyr on August 01, 2012, 08:11:31 PM
Football in the olympics is just pointless. The olympics should be about the best athletes in the world, with football though its just whcihever randomers from each country fancy playing.

Karate should be in as should some sort of speed climbing and skateboarding.
And to bring back the Victorian classic, the tug of war, would be fantastic.

Yeah, that would be great for flavour, but I don't think anyone in the world competes at that 'seriously'*



* And no doubt someone will link to a flourishing international scene and point of that England has a national and regional league set up, that I'm not aware of.
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: alfred russel on August 01, 2012, 08:15:20 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 01, 2012, 07:59:22 PM
Mixed martial arts.

:D

Actually, it would probably be legit to add that and get rid of some of the others. I know that won't happen.

It is crazy baseball isn't in.

Cricket would make sense too--the national sport of the subcontinent, which is a huge chunk of the world population right there.

Get rid of:
-ballroom dancing (maybe this is male bias showing)
-trampoline
-dressage

Reform:
-boxing. Olympic boxing is awful.
-shooting / archery. the events should be cooler like the winter event where you ski and shoot. Maybe add moving targets. Maybe the moving targets could be the other competitors.  :ph34r:
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: frunk on August 01, 2012, 08:17:14 PM
Tameshigiri
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: Josquius on August 01, 2012, 08:19:37 PM
Cricket I'd disagree with for the same reason as football. The olympics should be about the best of the best, for that we have the cricket world cup.

Quote from: mongers on August 01, 2012, 08:15:09 PM
Yeah, that would be great for flavour, but I don't think anyone in the world competes at that 'seriously'*

That's why I approve. For a while at least will give random nutters the world over a chance to try and get themselves into the olympics, just the way the olympics were originally meant to be! :D
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: Neil on August 01, 2012, 08:26:06 PM
Cricket would be cool.  Baseball, less so.  Still, pro baseball is on during the Olympics, and without the pros what's the point?
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: DGuller on August 01, 2012, 08:36:59 PM
Swimming events should be cut by a factor of 4.  Phelps is good, but being able to win 37 gold medals in one year, because swimming with your left pinky up, and with it down, counts as two separate medal events, is ridiculous.  A lot of those events should be combined into either a combo event, or just a multi-round competition.
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: mongers on August 01, 2012, 08:37:50 PM
Quote from: DGuller on August 01, 2012, 08:36:59 PM
Swimming events should be cut by a factor of 4.  Phelps is good, but being able to win 37 gold medals in one year, because swimming with your left pinky up, and with it down, counts as two separate medal events, is ridiculous.  A lot of those events should be combined into either a combo event, or just a multi-round competition.

:yes:
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: Scipio on August 01, 2012, 08:38:10 PM
Restore the classic pentathlon, and have everyone who competes in the modern pentathlon have to compete in it.
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: Valmy on August 01, 2012, 08:38:38 PM
Quote from: Neil on August 01, 2012, 08:26:06 PM
Cricket would be cool.  Baseball, less so.  Still, pro baseball is on during the Olympics, and without the pros what's the point?

The NHL makes it work.
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: Ed Anger on August 01, 2012, 08:40:36 PM
Pankration. With chicks.
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: Neil on August 01, 2012, 08:41:43 PM
Quote from: Valmy on August 01, 2012, 08:38:38 PM
Quote from: Neil on August 01, 2012, 08:26:06 PM
Cricket would be cool.  Baseball, less so.  Still, pro baseball is on during the Olympics, and without the pros what's the point?

The NHL makes it work.
For one thing, hockey doesn't suck.  For another, baseball is unlikely to change their timetable to suit the IOC.
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: mongers on August 01, 2012, 08:45:26 PM
This wiki page seems to be a good summary of the decision making process and the politics involved in choosing Olympic sports.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympic_sports (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympic_sports)

And apparently rugby and golf are returning at that next Olympiad.   :hmm:
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: Josquius on August 01, 2012, 08:49:40 PM
Ice hockey is an interesting one in that the olympics there have truly become recognised as the pinacle of the game. There isn't an ice hockey world cup that I know of, instead you have the winter olympics which serves the same purpose as the world cup does for football fans.
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: Grey Fox on August 01, 2012, 08:50:33 PM
Out

Road Cycling - It's the same dudes but intead of Sky or Radio Shack, it's England & France. We've seen it all the month before.
Tennis - It's the same dudes but with a little flag next to their name on the overlay in the telecast. We've seen it all every 2 weeks.
A Reduction in the number of classes for the Archery & Shooting sports.

I have no suggestion on what to add. Whatever the X-games are doing.
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: mongers on August 01, 2012, 08:55:29 PM
A comparison between the 1948 and 2012 London Olympics is interesting; then there were 136 events of which 33 were athletics, now there's 302 events including 47 in athletics. 

edit:

Over the same time period swimming events have mushroomed from 11 to 34 as DG alluded to.
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: alfred russel on August 01, 2012, 08:58:06 PM
Quote from: DGuller on August 01, 2012, 08:36:59 PM
Swimming events should be cut by a factor of 4.  Phelps is good, but being able to win 37 gold medals in one year, because swimming with your left pinky up, and with it down, counts as two separate medal events, is ridiculous.  A lot of those events should be combined into either a combo event, or just a multi-round competition.

Damnit DGuller, Quiet! You are an american now, and we win at those events.
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: mongers on August 01, 2012, 08:59:49 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on August 01, 2012, 08:58:06 PM
Quote from: DGuller on August 01, 2012, 08:36:59 PM
Swimming events should be cut by a factor of 4.  Phelps is good, but being able to win 37 gold medals in one year, because swimming with your left pinky up, and with it down, counts as two separate medal events, is ridiculous.  A lot of those events should be combined into either a combo event, or just a multi-round competition.

Damnit DGuller, Quiet! You are an american now, and we win at those events.

:D
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on August 01, 2012, 09:01:05 PM
MMA with barbed wire matches.
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: FunkMonk on August 01, 2012, 09:08:30 PM
I know this is a really stupid idea but I'm going to say it anyway. I'd like to see football (american) at an Olympiad, at least just once. It'd be interesting to see what other countries would muster up to play the United States. Players less than half the size of the Americans, making crazy plays that would embarrass an FCS team. Hell, bring in some international cheerleading squads too.

There's another one: Olympic cheerleading.

Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: Ed Anger on August 01, 2012, 09:14:26 PM
Quote from: FunkMonk on August 01, 2012, 09:08:30 PM
I know this is a really stupid idea but I'm going to say it anyway. I'd like to see football (american) at an Olympiad, at least just once. It'd be interesting to see what other countries would muster up to play the United States. Players less than half the size of the Americans, making crazy plays that would embarrass an FCS team. Hell, bring in some international cheerleading squads too.

There's another one: Olympic cheerleading.

Great, div II and div III players vs euro midgets. Sounds thrilling.
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: Admiral Yi on August 01, 2012, 09:17:08 PM
Quote from: FunkMonk on August 01, 2012, 09:08:30 PM
I know this is a really stupid idea but I'm going to say it anyway. I'd like to see football (american) at an Olympiad, at least just once. It'd be interesting to see what other countries would muster up to play the United States. Players less than half the size of the Americans, making crazy plays that would embarrass an FCS team. Hell, bring in some international cheerleading squads too.

Terrible idea.
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: Neil on August 01, 2012, 09:20:02 PM
Quote from: FunkMonk on August 01, 2012, 09:08:30 PM
I know this is a really stupid idea but I'm going to say it anyway. I'd like to see football (american) at an Olympiad, at least just once. It'd be interesting to see what other countries would muster up to play the United States. Players less than half the size of the Americans, making crazy plays that would embarrass an FCS team. Hell, bring in some international cheerleading squads too.

There's another one: Olympic cheerleading.
The international junior tourneys are interesting for that reason.  Actually, Canada just upset the US at the under-19s, with Japan and Austria rounding out the top 4.
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: mongers on August 01, 2012, 09:20:53 PM
On the subject of large international sports with established worldwide competitions conflicting with the Olympics, whether it be money, player availability, prestige of events like the world cup, here is my suggestion.

Lets have those games involved, but played like the popular, easy games as played my many of the amateur players.

So the soccer event would be five-a-side, American football would be touch football, cricket would be something live a 20-20 match etc. 
Is there a simplified version of baseball widely played ?

I think this would have a virtue of showcasing the fun, the fast and furious nature of the individual sports, whilst demonstrating to people,they themselves with a few friends or in small communities could set teams and play the games themselves without the need for too much specialist equipment or large dedicated playing areas.



Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: Admiral Yi on August 01, 2012, 09:22:27 PM
Touch football is a terrible idea.
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: Ed Anger on August 01, 2012, 09:23:21 PM
Simplefied baseball is softball. Chug a beer at each at bat.
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: Neil on August 01, 2012, 09:25:05 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 01, 2012, 09:22:27 PM
Touch football is a terrible idea.
In any millieu, not just the Olympics.
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: Ed Anger on August 01, 2012, 09:27:30 PM
Flag football is its retarded cousin. HEY! Another pass. What a shocka.
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: FunkMonk on August 01, 2012, 09:32:56 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 01, 2012, 09:17:08 PM
Quote from: FunkMonk on August 01, 2012, 09:08:30 PM
I know this is a really stupid idea but I'm going to say it anyway. I'd like to see football (american) at an Olympiad, at least just once. It'd be interesting to see what other countries would muster up to play the United States. Players less than half the size of the Americans, making crazy plays that would embarrass an FCS team. Hell, bring in some international cheerleading squads too.

Terrible idea.

I also think paintball and laser tag should be Olympic events.

You know, for the kids.
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: Viking on August 01, 2012, 09:34:32 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 01, 2012, 07:59:22 PM
Mixed martial arts.

:D

Seconded, bring back the  Pankration (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pankration)


but seriously.. I'm in favor of removing the team sports entirely and removing any event where the olympics is not the ultimate achievement in the sport (tennis, golf, boxing etc.).
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: mongers on August 01, 2012, 09:35:52 PM
Quote from: FunkMonk on August 01, 2012, 09:32:56 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 01, 2012, 09:17:08 PM
Quote from: FunkMonk on August 01, 2012, 09:08:30 PM
I know this is a really stupid idea but I'm going to say it anyway. I'd like to see football (american) at an Olympiad, at least just once. It'd be interesting to see what other countries would muster up to play the United States. Players less than half the size of the Americans, making crazy plays that would embarrass an FCS team. Hell, bring in some international cheerleading squads too.

Terrible idea.

I also think paintball and laser tag should be Olympic events.

You know, for the kids.

Yeah, why not; I think the Olympics should be in part about getting people involved, exercising and competing.
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: Ed Anger on August 01, 2012, 09:39:12 PM
Quote from: FunkMonk on August 01, 2012, 09:32:56 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 01, 2012, 09:17:08 PM
Quote from: FunkMonk on August 01, 2012, 09:08:30 PM
I know this is a really stupid idea but I'm going to say it anyway. I'd like to see football (american) at an Olympiad, at least just once. It'd be interesting to see what other countries would muster up to play the United States. Players less than half the size of the Americans, making crazy plays that would embarrass an FCS team. Hell, bring in some international cheerleading squads too.

Terrible idea.

I also think paintball and laser tag should be Olympic events.

You know, for the kids.

And Nerf.
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: Tonitrus on August 01, 2012, 09:43:43 PM
Quote from: FunkMonk on August 01, 2012, 09:08:30 PM
I know this is a really stupid idea but I'm going to say it anyway. I'd like to see football (american) at an Olympiad, at least just once. It'd be interesting to see what other countries would muster up to play the United States. Players less than half the size of the Americans, making crazy plays that would embarrass an FCS team. Hell, bring in some international cheerleading squads too.

There's another one: Olympic cheerleading.

Watching women's indoor volleyball the other day, I saw in the background some kind of generic IOC cheerleaders.  It seemed rather odd.

Also, add:

- Sumo
- Dodgeball
- Jousting
- Polo


At least one of those is serious. :P
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: Admiral Yi on August 01, 2012, 09:45:13 PM
Quote from: Viking on August 01, 2012, 09:34:32 PM
but seriously.. I'm in favor of removing the team sports entirely and removing any event where the olympics is not the ultimate achievement in the sport (tennis, golf, boxing etc.).

Agree with the second but not the first.  What would be the point?
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: FunkMonk on August 01, 2012, 09:46:26 PM
To be honest I find the Olympics quite boring and wouldn't mind seeing things like paintball and nerf ( :lol: ) as events.

If shit like motherfucking DRESSSSSAAAAGGGE can be in the Olympics, certainly something like skeeball should get a chance.
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: Tonitrus on August 01, 2012, 09:48:45 PM
I am assuming Dressage is in because some corrupt IOC fatcat's daughter likes horsies.
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: Ed Anger on August 01, 2012, 09:52:40 PM
I would be an excellent Nerf machine gunner.  :)
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: alfred russel on August 01, 2012, 09:55:46 PM
Quote from: mongers on August 01, 2012, 09:20:53 PM
On the subject of large international sports with established worldwide competitions conflicting with the Olympics, whether it be money, player availability, prestige of events like the world cup, here is my suggestion.

Lets have those games involved, but played like the popular, easy games as played my many of the amateur players.

So the soccer event would be five-a-side, American football would be touch football, cricket would be something live a 20-20 match etc. 
Is there a simplified version of baseball widely played ?

I think this would have a virtue of showcasing the fun, the fast and furious nature of the individual sports, whilst demonstrating to people,they themselves with a few friends or in small communities could set teams and play the games themselves without the need for too much specialist equipment or large dedicated playing areas.

I think those "fun" aspects would be out the door in an Olympic venue, once dedicated teams have spent months training for the event and coaches have analyzed how to game the rules. Whatever you are going to give out an Olympic medal for is going to turn into a serious business.
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: FunkMonk on August 01, 2012, 10:02:51 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 01, 2012, 09:52:40 PM
I would be an excellent Nerf machine gunner.  :)

There's a counter for that.  :P
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: Eddie Teach on August 01, 2012, 10:03:57 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on August 01, 2012, 09:48:45 PM
I am assuming Dressage is in because some corrupt IOC fatcat's daughter likes horsies.

Y'know, the Queen's grand-daughter just won a silver in one of the equestrian events. :shifty:
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: Viking on August 01, 2012, 10:06:37 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 01, 2012, 09:45:13 PM
Quote from: Viking on August 01, 2012, 09:34:32 PM
but seriously.. I'm in favor of removing the team sports entirely and removing any event where the olympics is not the ultimate achievement in the sport (tennis, golf, boxing etc.).

Agree with the second but not the first.  What would be the point?

Because when the Olympics is not the pinnacle of sporting achievement in a field it lacks something. The tennis players are in the off season and in variable shape, Gareth Bale dropped out of the 35 man squad for the UK soccer team due to "injury" but managed to play full games during Tottenham's tour of the USA.

I'm in favor of reducing the size of the contest. Right now the olympics requries facilities for all the world's major sports. While I love team handball very few people outside northern europe, spain and south korea care. The team sports would benefit from holding their own world championships in places where the locals care who wins. The individual sports would benefit from not having sports superstars slumming it or showing up half injured just to take in the atmosphere.
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: Ed Anger on August 01, 2012, 10:11:04 PM
Quote from: FunkMonk on August 01, 2012, 10:02:51 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 01, 2012, 09:52:40 PM
I would be an excellent Nerf machine gunner.  :)

There's a counter for that.  :P

Bah, I am excellent at ambushing 4 year olds. Euros ain't much smarter.
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on August 01, 2012, 10:28:57 PM
Quote from: DGuller on August 01, 2012, 08:36:59 PM
Swimming events should be cut by a factor of 4.  Phelps is good, but being able to win 37 gold medals in one year, because swimming with your left pinky up, and with it down, counts as two separate medal events, is ridiculous.  A lot of those events should be combined into either a combo event, or just a multi-round competition.

This is stupid.  Only a retard wouldn't be able to see the differences between distances and strokes and only a retard would think the abilities needed to win, for example, the 50m free would easily translate to the 200 butterfly.   You might have a point if, say, Phelps was dominating every event and having no trouble, etc, but he isn't.  He, and everyone else, are only in certain events that they are good enough to qualify in (for Phelps, it's the IMs, 100 + 200 butterfly, 200 freestyle, and the relays.  This leaves out 50, 100, 400, and 1500 freestyle and all distances of breaststroke and backstroke.  Because he would probably get smoked in a lot of those.).

Also, the record is 8, not 37.  It's a record because it doesn't happen very often.  Only twice, actually, and both times by Phelps.  The previous record was 7,  which had been done in swimming, gymnastics, and shooting.   Multiple times in each one.

E:  And for the topic....ballroom dancing is an Olympic sport?  We should send Emmitt Smith?
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: Eddie Teach on August 01, 2012, 10:44:02 PM
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on August 01, 2012, 10:28:57 PM
Also, the record is 8, not 37.  It's a record because it doesn't happen very often.  Only twice, actually, and both times by Phelps.

Only once, he only won 6 medals in '04.
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on August 01, 2012, 10:45:34 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on August 01, 2012, 10:44:02 PM
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on August 01, 2012, 10:28:57 PM
Also, the record is 8, not 37.  It's a record because it doesn't happen very often.  Only twice, actually, and both times by Phelps.

Only once, he only won 6 medals in '04.

Six gold medals.  Also got two bronze.  The dude is just ridiculous. 

E:  I guess you're right, the guy did only say gold medals.  Even more ridiculous then.  Good luck seeing that again.  Although maybe that Chinese chick can pull it off next time around, assuming they'll even enter her in enough events in order to keep her from burning out.  Some of this shit they're having to do, like Franklin I think it was, swimming an event (a heat?) then a final ~ten minutes later, has got to be really really hard on you.
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: alfred russel on August 01, 2012, 10:54:15 PM
Quote from: Viking on August 01, 2012, 10:06:37 PM


Because when the Olympics is not the pinnacle of sporting achievement in a field it lacks something. The tennis players are in the off season and in variable shape, Gareth Bale dropped out of the 35 man squad for the UK soccer team due to "injury" but managed to play full games during Tottenham's tour of the USA.

I'm in favor of reducing the size of the contest. Right now the olympics requries facilities for all the world's major sports. While I love team handball very few people outside northern europe, spain and south korea care. The team sports would benefit from holding their own world championships in places where the locals care who wins. The individual sports would benefit from not having sports superstars slumming it or showing up half injured just to take in the atmosphere.

I don't know about handball, but in basketball I think there will be difficulty in setting up a tournament that people care about/stars participate in outside of the Olympic framework. The Olympics bring their own credibility.
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: PRC on August 01, 2012, 11:06:06 PM
Caber toss.
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: Eddie Teach on August 01, 2012, 11:11:35 PM
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on August 01, 2012, 10:45:34 PM
Six gold medals.  Also got two bronze.  The dude is just ridiculous. 

My impression is the bronze were from Sydney and that he only competed in 6 events in Athens. Course, I wasn't really following the Olympics those years.
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on August 01, 2012, 11:14:30 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on August 01, 2012, 11:11:35 PM
My impression is the bronze were from Sydney and that he only competed in 6 events in Athens. Course, I wasn't really following the Olympics those years.

Nah, he only swam in one event in Sydney and didn't medal.  He was only like 15 years old at the time.

Athens was 6 gold, 2 bronze.  Beijing was 8 gold.  London is 1 gold, 2 silver so far.  I think he's "only" in 7 events this time around?

E:  Speaking of which, and because of the thread where the Chinese swimmer is mentioned, I looked up his 200 fly time in Sydney:  1:56.50.  Four years later, he was at 1:54.04 (oly record).  Eight years later, he hit 1:52.03 (world record).  This year, he swam it in 1:53.01.  No huge fluctuations in there.
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: Josquius on August 02, 2012, 12:08:36 AM
Quote from: alfred russel on August 01, 2012, 10:54:15 PM
I don't know about handball, but in basketball I think there will be difficulty in setting up a tournament that people care about/stars participate in outside of the Olympic framework. The Olympics bring their own credibility.

I dunno, give basketball time.
Though its rise in the UK has stalled and crashed in East Asia it is rapidly becoming very, very popular. Give it a few decades and they might well get up to a good enough standard. I believe there are some European countries with decent level pro basketball too
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: Syt on August 02, 2012, 12:27:45 AM
I'm not sure if American Football would be successful in the Olympics. It's doubtful that there would be NFL pros risking injury during an additional 4-6 (or however many) games in preparation for the season, not to mention the short downtime between individual games (3 games a week?).

Austria hosted the Football world cup last year. I didn't attend any games, but it seems the level of play was pretty poor - why would anyone want to see that televised in a major sports celebration like the Olympics?
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: The Brain on August 02, 2012, 01:06:33 AM
Handing out medals for inefficient ways of doing the same thing, like in swimming, should go. Also weight classes should go. You're 120 lbs but think you're a great boxer? Think again.
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: Admiral Yi on August 02, 2012, 01:11:11 AM
Quote from: The Brain on August 02, 2012, 01:06:33 AM
Handing out medals for inefficient ways of doing the same thing

Walk racing.  :lol:
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: The Brain on August 02, 2012, 01:11:57 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 02, 2012, 01:11:11 AM
Quote from: The Brain on August 02, 2012, 01:06:33 AM
Handing out medals for inefficient ways of doing the same thing

Walk racing.  :lol:

Been on my hate list since I learned that there was such a thing. :mad:
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: Eddie Teach on August 02, 2012, 01:20:01 AM
Quote from: The Brain on August 02, 2012, 01:06:33 AM
Handing out medals for inefficient ways of doing the same thing, like in swimming, should go. Also weight classes should go. You're 120 lbs but think you're a great boxer? Think again.

Bah, they should add a backwards marathon.
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: Duque de Bragança on August 02, 2012, 02:31:30 AM
Rink hockey since field hockey sucks and ice hockey is for Winter Olympics.
Actually, roller hockey (the other name) used to be a demonstration sport at Barcelona '92.
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: Gups on August 02, 2012, 02:53:09 AM
Agree that the only sports that should be allowed are ones where the Oympics is the biggest event.

Get rid of football (replace with indoor 5 a-side) and tennis. Golf should not be allowed. Reforming boxing or get rid.

Bring in 20/20 cricket, rugby sevens. Baseball if it's workable.

No syncronised shit.
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: Valdemar on August 02, 2012, 03:41:16 AM
Quote from: Tyr on August 01, 2012, 08:49:40 PM
Ice hockey is an interesting one in that the olympics there have truly become recognised as the pinacle of the game. There isn't an ice hockey world cup that I know of, instead you have the winter olympics which serves the same purpose as the world cup does for football fans.

There is an icehockey WC every second year and NHL pros gets released form their clubs to play unless they are injured or in the stanley cup playoffs

It is timed so the regular tournament of NHL is over.

V
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: Martinus on August 02, 2012, 04:56:06 AM
As long as they keep dressage in, I'm happy.
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: Liep on August 02, 2012, 05:04:35 AM
Quote from: Martinus on August 02, 2012, 04:56:06 AM
As long as they keep dressage in, I'm happy.

Denmark's up now. Our royal competitor is killing it with Clearwater. :w00t:
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: Martinus on August 02, 2012, 05:16:56 AM
Quote from: Liep on August 02, 2012, 05:04:35 AM
Quote from: Martinus on August 02, 2012, 04:56:06 AM
As long as they keep dressage in, I'm happy.

Denmark's up now. Our royal competitor is killing it with Clearwater. :w00t:

How's Rafalca doing?
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: The Larch on August 02, 2012, 05:25:00 AM
Quote from: alfred russel on August 01, 2012, 10:54:15 PMI don't know about handball, but in basketball I think there will be difficulty in setting up a tournament that people care about/stars participate in outside of the Olympic framework. The Olympics bring their own credibility.

Ahem, ahem.

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Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: Octavian on August 02, 2012, 05:54:37 AM
MMA wouldn't work. They would be forced to wear helmets which will hamper the ground game and there would probably also be restrictions to the use of elbows and knees. Especially since there would be several fights each fighter would have to go through.

Instead they could introduce karate, kick boxing and brazillian Juijutsu.

I don't have a problem with olympic boxing or different weight classes and I don't understand why people wanna change that. It's a great way for amateur boxers to compete at a high level internationally. Not every boxer wants to go pro.

Besides there's a huge difference between what type of boxing you see between the weight classes which is why different weight classes are also to be found in pro boxing and pro MMA etc. 

Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: CountDeMoney on August 02, 2012, 06:45:15 AM
Quote from: Tonitrus on August 01, 2012, 09:43:43 PM
Also, add:

- Sumo
- Dodgeball
- Jousting
- Polo


At least one of those is serious. :P

Yeah.  Sumo.


What the fuck was that sport that they were playing the other day, looks like indoor soccer, but they throw the ball?  Like hardwood water polo?  WTF kind of sport is that? 
It looked like that retarded sport they invented for Battlestar Galactica from the 70s.

Anyway, I couldn't figure it out.  It's stupid.  Dump it.
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: Ed Anger on August 02, 2012, 06:45:56 AM
Handball. And yes, it is ultra-retardo.
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: Ed Anger on August 02, 2012, 06:47:06 AM
Dump field hockey also. My back hurts just watching those players run while hunched over.
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: Valdemar on August 02, 2012, 06:49:19 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 02, 2012, 06:45:56 AM
Handball. And yes, it is ultra-retardo.

you want to introduce American football and baseball, but exclude handball?  :cry:

V
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: Ed Anger on August 02, 2012, 06:51:04 AM
Quote from: Valdemar on August 02, 2012, 06:49:19 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 02, 2012, 06:45:56 AM
Handball. And yes, it is ultra-retardo.

you want to introduce American football and baseball, but exclude handball?  :cry:

V

I don't want American football. American football is American and therefore not suitable.

Softball chicks hitting a giant ball while I perv at the skinny Cali girls in the field? AWESOME.
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: Grey Fox on August 02, 2012, 08:19:20 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 02, 2012, 06:45:56 AM
Handball. And yes, it is ultra-retardo.

It's not different than Basketball.
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on August 02, 2012, 08:24:29 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 02, 2012, 06:51:04 AM
Softball chicks hitting a giant ball while I perv at the skinny Cali girls in the field? AWESOME.

UC! *clapclap* LA! 

Yeah, I can dig it.
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: DGuller on August 02, 2012, 08:29:49 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on August 02, 2012, 08:19:20 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 02, 2012, 06:45:56 AM
Handball. And yes, it is ultra-retardo.

It's not different than Basketball.
Basketball is way more retarded.  Every team seems to leave their net empty all the time.  No wonder every team scores dozens of goals each game.
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: mongers on August 02, 2012, 08:48:56 AM
Quote from: Gups on August 02, 2012, 02:53:09 AM
Agree that the only sports that should be allowed are ones where the Oympics is the biggest event.

Get rid of football (replace with indoor 5 a-side) and tennis. Golf should not be allowed. Reforming boxing or get rid.

Bring in 20/20 cricket, rugby sevens. Baseball if it's workable.

No syncronised shit.

We seem to be on pretty much the same page.

Glad you and your son enjoyed the Olympic experience. :cheers:
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: CountDeMoney on August 02, 2012, 08:57:22 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 02, 2012, 06:51:04 AM
Softball chicks hitting a giant ball while I perv at the skinny Cali girls in the field? AWESOME.

Softball chicks have the cutest ponytails, too.
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: Ed Anger on August 02, 2012, 09:09:12 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 02, 2012, 08:57:22 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 02, 2012, 06:51:04 AM
Softball chicks hitting a giant ball while I perv at the skinny Cali girls in the field? AWESOME.

Softball chicks have the cutest ponytails, too.

They squeal when you pull them.
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: Gups on August 02, 2012, 09:26:25 AM
Quote from: mongers on August 02, 2012, 08:48:56 AM
Quote from: Gups on August 02, 2012, 02:53:09 AM
Agree that the only sports that should be allowed are ones where the Oympics is the biggest event.

Get rid of football (replace with indoor 5 a-side) and tennis. Golf should not be allowed. Reforming boxing or get rid.

Bring in 20/20 cricket, rugby sevens. Baseball if it's workable.

No syncronised shit.

We seem to be on pretty much the same page.

Glad you and your son enjoyed the Olympic experience. :cheers:

:cheers:

Bixing at the Excel tonight. I've always loved boxing but never been to a live fight before.

Will also be getting my first experience of proper Yanqui BBQ beforehand. Apparently Kansas style, whatever the fuck that is.


Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: Admiral Yi on August 02, 2012, 09:39:09 AM
:cheers:

Don't wear a good shirt.
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: Gups on August 02, 2012, 09:54:54 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 02, 2012, 09:39:09 AM
:cheers:

Don't wear a good shirt.

Like a utter numpty I forgot to bring a change of clothes to work, so will be in my suit for the whole caboodle.

Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: The Brain on August 02, 2012, 09:55:40 AM
Birthday or regular?
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: Gups on August 02, 2012, 09:58:27 AM
Regular, but with pockets turned out so I can do the old elephant impression.
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: Admiral Yi on August 02, 2012, 09:59:08 AM
Quote from: Gups on August 02, 2012, 09:54:54 AM
Like a utter numpty I forgot to bring a change of clothes to work, so will be in my suit for the whole caboodle.

Lose the jacket, lose the tie, tuck a napkin in your neck like an Italian truck driver.  Ribs are messy to eat even for the experienced.
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: Gups on August 02, 2012, 10:04:02 AM
Just checked the menu, I think I'll go for this...

"A selection of Spare Ribs and Baby Back Ribs, Burnt Ends, Pulled Pork and Chicken Thighs"

But what are burnt ends?
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: Admiral Yi on August 02, 2012, 10:07:54 AM
Quote from: Gups on August 02, 2012, 10:04:02 AM
Just checked the menu, I think I'll go for this...

"A selection of Spare Ribs and Baby Back Ribs, Burnt Ends, Pulled Pork and Chicken Thighs"

But what are burnt ends?

Never hearrd of them.  Maybe sirloin tips??.
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: Baron von Schtinkenbutt on August 02, 2012, 10:30:34 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 02, 2012, 10:07:54 AM
Quote from: Gups on August 02, 2012, 10:04:02 AM
But what are burnt ends?

Never hearrd of them.  Maybe sirloin tips??.

Pieces of the point of the brisket that are chopped up and re-cooked in barbecue sauce.
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: Admiral Yi on August 02, 2012, 10:59:45 AM
Sounds like leftovers.
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: katmai on August 02, 2012, 02:46:46 PM
They are delicious!
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: CountDeMoney on August 02, 2012, 03:48:56 PM
So I'm watching this "Handball"--which isn't handball, as real handball is played in a racquetball court--this is more like retardo dodgeball with a net.

Stupid, stupid, stupid.
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: katmai on August 02, 2012, 03:52:17 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 02, 2012, 03:48:56 PM
So I'm watching this "Handball"--which isn't handball, as real handball is played in a racquetball court--this is more like retardo dodgeball with a net.

Stupid, stupid, stupid.

:lol:

Yeah i tried watching it and had to change the channel after 5mins.
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: Admiral Yi on August 02, 2012, 03:53:41 PM
Norwegian women playing? :)
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: katmai on August 02, 2012, 03:58:48 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 02, 2012, 03:53:41 PM
Norwegian women playing? :)

It's been all men's matches when i look, except for one Yi's people vs Liep's people....none of the ladies for either side looked attractive.
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: katmai on August 02, 2012, 03:59:44 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 02, 2012, 06:47:06 AM
Dump field hockey also. My back hurts just watching those players run while hunched over.

Glad to see I'm not the only one having that reaction.
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: CountDeMoney on August 02, 2012, 04:01:06 PM
Quote from: katmai on August 02, 2012, 03:59:44 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 02, 2012, 06:47:06 AM
Dump field hockey also. My back hurts just watching those players run while hunched over.

Glad to see I'm not the only one having that reaction.

Yeah, those field hockey girls were cute in high school with those athletic legs you could chew on for a day, but the Olympics?  Meh.  Dump it.
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: Admiral Yi on August 02, 2012, 04:02:52 PM
Need to keep men's field hockey so Indians don't feel 100% useless.
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: Viking on August 02, 2012, 04:05:35 PM
Quote from: katmai on August 02, 2012, 03:52:17 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 02, 2012, 03:48:56 PM
So I'm watching this "Handball"--which isn't handball, as real handball is played in a racquetball court--this is more like retardo dodgeball with a net.

Stupid, stupid, stupid.

:lol:

Yeah i tried watching it and had to change the channel after 5mins.

WTF? Healthy Pretty Athletic Women being Violent? How the hell can you get bored with that?
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: Warspite on August 02, 2012, 04:08:36 PM
Handball is awesome and really physical. I'll hear nothing against it. In fact, I'm not sure why you Yanquis don't love it. It involves people crashing into each other like lunatics, and bit like AmFoot but with leaner types.

I don't see a need to strip the Olympics of lots of events, aside from idiotic spectacles like the poor-quality football, tennis (four slams is enough), and dressage.

There are some good sports that would make decent Olympic spectacles.

Rugby sevens is a thrilling game and has quite a good international showing. I'm not sure how you could integrate cricket (20:20 is just a slogger's charter) and it would just mean more medals for the Commonwealth but it could be worth a go. And I'm surprised squash isn't already an Olympic sport.
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: CountDeMoney on August 02, 2012, 04:13:52 PM
Quote from: Warspite on August 02, 2012, 04:08:36 PM
Handball is awesome and really physical. I'll hear nothing against it. In fact, I'm not sure why you Yanquis don't love it. It involves people crashing into each other like lunatics, and bit like AmFoot but with leaner types.

Dude, we have the NBA and NFL.  We get real professionals crashing into each other like lunatics.


It's a silly, silly sport.
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: The Brain on August 02, 2012, 04:16:30 PM
I've enjoyed handballing in my day but no way in hell it is a spectator sport.
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: katmai on August 02, 2012, 04:17:40 PM
Quote from: The Brain on August 02, 2012, 04:16:30 PM
I've enjoyed handballing in my day but no way in hell it is a spectator sport.

You clearly weren't doing it right.
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: Admiral Yi on August 02, 2012, 06:11:07 PM
Has the IOC stopped doing exhibition sports altogether or did Britain just abstain?
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: mongers on August 02, 2012, 06:19:07 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 02, 2012, 06:11:07 PM
Has the IOC stopped doing exhibition sports altogether or did Britain just abstain?

Accoring to wiki:

Quote
Although formal demonstration sports were eliminated following the 1992 Summer Olympics,[337] special tournaments for non-Olympic sports can be run during the Games, such as the Wushu tournament at the 2008 Summer Olympics.[338] There were attempts to run Twenty20 cricket,[338] and netball[339] tournaments parallel with the 2012 Games, but neither campaign was successful.
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: Admiral Yi on August 02, 2012, 07:04:11 PM
US chick who won gold in judo is built like a semi.

Incidentally, anyone know why it's called a semi?  Is there a full version too?
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: katmai on August 02, 2012, 07:10:58 PM
It is a Semi-trailer truck for full name.
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: Ed Anger on August 02, 2012, 07:19:33 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 02, 2012, 07:04:11 PM
US chick who won gold in judo is built like a semi.

Incidentally, anyone know why it's called a semi?  Is there a full version too?

The Middletown (aka Middletucky) Ohio woman? Yeah, they are like that there.
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: MadImmortalMan on August 02, 2012, 07:55:03 PM
Back in the old days, Olympic sports were stuff that was essentially practice for war; javelin, wrestling, archery, chariot racing. We could use some Olympic radar jamming, fighter racing, parachute jumping and drone piloting I guess.  :P
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: sbr on August 02, 2012, 08:08:18 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on August 02, 2012, 07:55:03 PM
Back in the old days, Olympic sports were stuff that was essentially practice for war; javelin, wrestling, archery, chariot racing. We could use some Olympic radar jamming, fighter racing, parachute jumping and drone piloting I guess.  :P

As long as they don't give out medals, would be disgraceful. :mad:
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: Neil on August 02, 2012, 08:16:21 PM
Quote from: sbr on August 02, 2012, 08:08:18 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on August 02, 2012, 07:55:03 PM
Back in the old days, Olympic sports were stuff that was essentially practice for war; javelin, wrestling, archery, chariot racing. We could use some Olympic radar jamming, fighter racing, parachute jumping and drone piloting I guess.  :P

As long as they don't give out medals, would be disgraceful. :mad:
:lol:
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: Caliga on August 02, 2012, 08:21:17 PM
I'm disappointed that Fukuda Keiko Sensei is not competing in judo. :(
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: Eddie Teach on August 02, 2012, 09:47:55 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on August 02, 2012, 07:55:03 PM
parachute jumping

First one to ground wins?
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: DGuller on August 02, 2012, 09:48:25 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on August 02, 2012, 09:47:55 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on August 02, 2012, 07:55:03 PM
parachute jumping

First one to ground wins?
:lol:
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: dps on August 02, 2012, 10:01:01 PM
Quote from: Neil on August 01, 2012, 08:26:06 PM
Cricket would be cool.  Baseball, less so.  Still, pro baseball is on during the Olympics, and without the pros what's the point?

That, apparantly, is why baseball was dropped--MLB refused (kind of understandably) to release their players to compete.  Though that doesn't explain why softball was also dropped.
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: Josquius on August 03, 2012, 02:43:57 AM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on August 02, 2012, 07:55:03 PM
Back in the old days, Olympic sports were stuff that was essentially practice for war; javelin, wrestling, archery, chariot racing. We could use some Olympic radar jamming, fighter racing, parachute jumping and drone piloting I guess.  :P
I have read that were it not for WW2 cancelling 1940 we would have glider flying in the olympics. :menace:
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: CountDeMoney on August 03, 2012, 11:35:59 AM
So I'm watching the lesbo version of this "Handball" this morning...when did this sport get invented?  Are there leagues or something I don't know about?  WTF is the story on this "game"?

For fuck's sake, I'd have more respect for the Olympics if they got rid of this and brought in Roller Derby.  If you're going to invent a sport, make it a cool one.
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: Admiral Yi on August 03, 2012, 11:38:13 AM
Norway playing?  :)
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: Syt on August 03, 2012, 11:51:44 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 03, 2012, 11:35:59 AM
So I'm watching the lesbo version of this "Handball" this morning...when did this sport get invented?  Are there leagues or something I don't know about?  WTF is the story on this "game"?

For fuck's sake, I'd have more respect for the Olympics if they got rid of this and brought in Roller Derby.  If you're going to invent a sport, make it a cool one.


QuoteThere are records of handball-like games in medieval France, and among the Inuit in Greenland, in the Middle Ages. By the 19th century, there existed similar games of håndbold from Denmark, házená in the Czech Republic, hádzaná in Slovakia, gandbol in Ukraine, torball in Germany, as well as versions in Uruguay.

The team handball game of today was formed by the end of the 19th century in northern Europe - primarily in Denmark, Germany, Norway and Sweden. The first written set of team handball rules was published in 1906 by the Danish gym teacher, lieutenant and Olympic medalist Holger Nielsen from Ordrup grammar school north of Copenhagen. The modern set of rules was published on 29 October 1917 by Max Heiser, Karl Schelenz, and Erich Konigh from Germany. After 1919 these rules were improved by Karl Schelenz. The first international games were played under these rules, between Germany and Belgium for men in 1925 and between Germany and Austria for women in 1930. Therefore modern handball is generally seen as a game of German origins.

In 1926, the Congress of the International Amateur Athletics Federation nominated a committee to draw up international rules for field handball. The International Amateur Handball Federation was formed in 1928, and the International Handball Federation was formed in 1946.

Men's field handball was played at the 1936 Summer Olympics in Berlin. During the next several decades, indoor handball flourished and evolved in the Scandinavian countries. The sport re-emerged onto the world stage as team handball for the 1972 Summer Olympics in Munich. Women's team handball was added at the 1976 Summer Olympics. Due to its popularity in the region, the Eastern European countries that refined the event became the dominant force in the sport when it was reintroduced.

The International Handball Federation organized the men's world championship in 1938 and every 4 (sometimes 3) years from World War II to 1995. Since the 1995 world championship in Iceland, the competition has been every two years. The women's world championship has been played since 1957. The IHF also organizes women's and men's junior world championships. By July 2009, the IHF listed 166 member federations - approximately 795,000 teams and 19 million players.

As others said before: the sport is very popular in Germany, Scandiweenia, the Balkans, South Korea, etc. Went to watch THW Kiel (ruling German dynasty in the past 10-20 years) plenty of times as well as our local clubs. Very strong grassroots level in North Germany.
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: The Brain on August 03, 2012, 11:56:42 AM
Quote from: Syt on August 03, 2012, 11:51:44 AM

QuoteThe modern set of rules was published on 29 October 1917 by Max Heiser, Karl Schelenz, and Erich Konigh from Germany.

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Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: garbon on August 03, 2012, 11:56:49 AM
Quote from: sbr on August 02, 2012, 08:08:18 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on August 02, 2012, 07:55:03 PM
Back in the old days, Olympic sports were stuff that was essentially practice for war; javelin, wrestling, archery, chariot racing. We could use some Olympic radar jamming, fighter racing, parachute jumping and drone piloting I guess.  :P

As long as they don't give out medals, would be disgraceful. :mad:

Good show. :D
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: garbon on August 03, 2012, 12:01:46 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 03, 2012, 11:35:59 AM
brought in Roller Derby.

:mmm:
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: Ed Anger on August 03, 2012, 01:55:42 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 02, 2012, 07:19:33 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 02, 2012, 07:04:11 PM
US chick who won gold in judo is built like a semi.

Incidentally, anyone know why it's called a semi?  Is there a full version too?

The Middletown (aka Middletucky) Ohio woman? Yeah, they are like that there.

I'd like to formally apologize for tossing insults at her. I didn't know her coach in the past diddled her. I feel bad now. I am such a bully.

But they do breed 'em ugly there.
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: Admiral Yi on August 03, 2012, 02:04:58 PM
Boner takes a bullying Mulligan.
Title: Re: Future Olympic Sports - What Should Be In And What Out ?
Post by: CountDeMoney on August 03, 2012, 02:20:26 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 03, 2012, 01:55:42 PM
I'd like to formally apologize for tossing insults at her. I didn't know her coach in the past diddled her.

Yeah, that was a pretty fucked up story.

Must've been back before her tail fell off.