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Title: Dijongate
Post by: Grallon on May 09, 2009, 05:16:59 PM
I'm surprised Hans hasn't come here, frothing at the mouth for a change, about how Obama's tastes in burger *proves* he's a dangerous, murderous socialist-elitist in this latest outrage that is the Dijon or Mustard - gate !

http://www.politicsdaily.com/2009/05/08/desperate-to-avoid-becoming-extinct/
http://media.nationalreview.com/post/?q=YjNmZmRkZDZjOTgzMzVlNzhiMTFjN2JkMmM1MDgzZmQ=
http://www.newmajority.com/ShowScroll.aspx?ID=deee68fd-d510-43d1-8b52-656f064b0aa6

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What other proof could the citizens of the United States require, that would demonstrate how delusional and intellectually bankrupt the conservatives in that country are - than this latest media franzy ?



G.
Title: Re: Dijongate
Post by: FunkMonk on May 09, 2009, 05:43:33 PM
I prefer mustard as well.
Title: Re: Dijongate
Post by: Ed Anger on May 09, 2009, 05:47:29 PM
I didn't even know Obama went out and got a burger.
Title: Re: Dijongate
Post by: garbon on May 09, 2009, 05:47:38 PM
While I think that Ingraham has fallen over to the darkside since getting cancer, I do find it funny that Obama goes on this PR trip and gets this.

QuoteCheck out this last line of The Washington Post piece: "Bonnie Cosby, 51, a technology consultant who picked up burgers on her way home from work, opined: 'It shows that he's in touch with the people, and that he's not up in the ivory tower. He's a real person — with a burger.'

Also, what kind of person does order dijon mustard and no ketchup on a hamburger? (Not that it matters, but...ewww)
Title: Re: Dijongate
Post by: garbon on May 09, 2009, 05:51:32 PM
P.S. Grallly - When I was a teen living at home, I used to listen to Laura Ingraham every night before bed. :goodboy:
Title: Re: Dijongate
Post by: Admiral Yi on May 09, 2009, 05:53:00 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 09, 2009, 05:47:29 PM
I didn't even know Obama went out and got a burger.
Some media frenzies are a little more frenzied than others.
Title: Re: Dijongate
Post by: Maximus on May 09, 2009, 05:57:48 PM
Quote from: garbon on May 09, 2009, 05:47:38 PM
Also, what kind of person does order dijon mustard and no ketchup on a hamburger? (Not that it matters, but...ewww)

A sensible person. Ketchup is a biohazard.
Title: Re: Dijongate
Post by: garbon on May 09, 2009, 06:01:24 PM
Quote from: Maximus on May 09, 2009, 05:57:48 PM
A sensible person. Ketchup is a biohazard.

My mother raised me properly.  Items that one should always have in ample supply at home : peanut butter, hershey's chocolate syrup, and ketchup.
Title: Re: Dijongate
Post by: Razgovory on May 09, 2009, 06:13:32 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 09, 2009, 05:47:29 PM
I didn't even know Obama went out and got a burger.

He really doesn't strike you a burger type does he?
Title: Re: Dijongate
Post by: vinraith on May 09, 2009, 06:18:07 PM
Quote from: garbon on May 09, 2009, 06:01:24 PM
Quote from: Maximus on May 09, 2009, 05:57:48 PM
A sensible person. Ketchup is a biohazard.

My mother raised me properly.  Items that one should always have in ample supply at home : peanut butter, hershey's chocolate syrup, and ketchup.

Agree with the first and last, but what's the chocolate syrup for?
Title: Re: Dijongate
Post by: Sheilbh on May 09, 2009, 06:33:58 PM
Quote from: garbon on May 09, 2009, 05:47:38 PM
Also, what kind of person does order dijon mustard and no ketchup on a hamburger? (Not that it matters, but...ewww)
Someone with taste.  Ketchup is useful for cooking but has no place as a condiment on an adult's food.
Title: Re: Dijongate
Post by: vinraith on May 09, 2009, 06:42:00 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on May 09, 2009, 06:33:58 PM
Quote from: garbon on May 09, 2009, 05:47:38 PM
Also, what kind of person does order dijon mustard and no ketchup on a hamburger? (Not that it matters, but...ewww)
Someone with taste.  Ketchup is useful for cooking but has no place as a condiment on an adult's food.

I can't fathom either side of this one. There's nothing wrong with using ketchup, and there's nothing wrong with not using it. Depending on the burger and toppings almost anything in the condiment spectrum may be appropriate, from mayo and mustard to ketchup or any number of exotics (barbecue sauce, steak sauce, spicy ranch etc.).

Honestly, what kind of utter misanthrope gets uppity about burger toppings?
Title: Re: Dijongate
Post by: dps on May 09, 2009, 06:44:53 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on May 09, 2009, 06:33:58 PM
Quote from: garbon on May 09, 2009, 05:47:38 PM
Also, what kind of person does order dijon mustard and no ketchup on a hamburger? (Not that it matters, but...ewww)
Someone with taste.  Ketchup is useful for cooking but has no place as a condiment on an adult's food.

Other than when making meatloaf, what on earth would someone use ketchup for in cooking.

No, wait, you're British.  Given what I do know of British cooking, I don't want to know what ketchup might be used for over there.
Title: Re: Dijongate
Post by: Sheilbh on May 09, 2009, 06:47:32 PM
Quote from: dps on May 09, 2009, 06:44:53 PMOther than when making meatloaf, what on earth would someone use ketchup for in cooking.
Steak tartare.  It's good in a lot of Jamaican curries as well and I always use it in any tomato sauce I make.  It mellows when it's cooked and is delicious :)
Title: Re: Dijongate
Post by: Ed Anger on May 09, 2009, 06:51:48 PM
Quote from: vinraith on May 09, 2009, 06:42:00 PM


Honestly, what kind of utter misanthrope gets uppity about burger toppings?

Welcome to the internet. Just mentioning that I like steak well done gets me hate mail.
Title: Re: Dijongate
Post by: katmai on May 09, 2009, 06:52:13 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 09, 2009, 06:51:48 PM
Quote from: vinraith on May 09, 2009, 06:42:00 PM


Honestly, what kind of utter misanthrope gets uppity about burger toppings?

Welcome to the internet. Just mentioning that I like steak well done gets me hate mail.


Die you dirty Kentuckian!
Title: Re: Dijongate
Post by: Ed Anger on May 09, 2009, 06:52:57 PM
Quote from: katmai on May 09, 2009, 06:52:13 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 09, 2009, 06:51:48 PM
Quote from: vinraith on May 09, 2009, 06:42:00 PM


Honestly, what kind of utter misanthrope gets uppity about burger toppings?

Welcome to the internet. Just mentioning that I like steak well done gets me hate mail.


Die you dirty Kentuckian!

:D
Title: Re: Dijongate
Post by: Sheilbh on May 09, 2009, 06:55:41 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 09, 2009, 06:51:48 PM
Quote from: vinraith on May 09, 2009, 06:42:00 PM


Honestly, what kind of utter misanthrope gets uppity about burger toppings?

Welcome to the internet. Just mentioning that I like steak well done gets me hate mail.
Sorry :sadblush:
Title: Re: Dijongate
Post by: HVC on May 09, 2009, 07:01:31 PM
All you well doners, just know that your steak is the one sitting around fora while then reheated becasue they over cooked someones medium rare :P
Title: Re: Dijongate
Post by: Ed Anger on May 09, 2009, 07:03:57 PM
Quote from: HVC on May 09, 2009, 07:01:31 PM
All you well doners, just know that your steak is the one sitting around fora while then reheated becasue they over cooked someones medium rare :P

I can send 'em back as fast as they can send it out.  :D
Title: Re: Dijongate
Post by: HVC on May 09, 2009, 07:07:35 PM
hope you like the tast of spit :p

Actually, well done ain't so bad.
Title: Re: Dijongate
Post by: garbon on May 09, 2009, 07:08:54 PM
Quote from: vinraith on May 09, 2009, 06:18:07 PM
Agree with the first and last, but what's the chocolate syrup for?

Ice cream and milk.
Title: Re: Dijongate
Post by: garbon on May 09, 2009, 07:09:45 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on May 09, 2009, 06:33:58 PM
Someone with taste.  Ketchup is useful for cooking but has no place as a condiment on an adult's food.

I'm happy to say that I don't have a British sense of taste. :)
Title: Re: Dijongate
Post by: vinraith on May 09, 2009, 07:10:33 PM
Quote from: HVC on May 09, 2009, 07:01:31 PM
All you well doners, just know that your steak is the one sitting around fora while then reheated becasue they over cooked someones medium rare :P

Conversely, most of the time I have to order well done just to get them to cook the damn thing to medium. The number of "medium well" steaks I've received with blood red centers truly boggles the mind.
Title: Re: Dijongate
Post by: vinraith on May 09, 2009, 07:11:31 PM
Quote from: garbon on May 09, 2009, 07:08:54 PM
Quote from: vinraith on May 09, 2009, 06:18:07 PM
Agree with the first and last, but what's the chocolate syrup for?

Ice cream and milk.

Always preferred actual hot fudge on ice cream, but chocolate milk is a good thing.
Title: Re: Dijongate
Post by: garbon on May 09, 2009, 07:14:40 PM
Fewer calories, less setup time (no heating). I prefer hot fudge as well, but with fewer uses, keeping it on hand is often impractical.
Title: Re: Dijongate
Post by: garbon on May 09, 2009, 07:15:04 PM
Oh and I left out milkshakes. :)
Title: Re: Dijongate
Post by: vinraith on May 09, 2009, 07:21:29 PM
Quote from: garbon on May 09, 2009, 07:14:40 PM
Fewer calories, less setup time (no heating). I prefer hot fudge as well, but with fewer uses, keeping it on hand is often impractical.

Makes sense to me.
Title: Re: Dijongate
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on May 09, 2009, 09:23:06 PM
Nothing wrong with ordering a burger without ketchup.

Edit:  Then again, proper burger joints don't bother asking which condiments (aside from mayo sometimes, I suppose) you want on the damn thing, and if you want extra special <brand> mustard because you're a douche, you're shit out of luck, and need to just suck it up and use the crusty bottle sitting on the counter or table.
Title: Re: Dijongate
Post by: Iormlund on May 09, 2009, 09:42:32 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 09, 2009, 06:51:48 PM

Welcome to the internet. Just mentioning that I like steak well done gets me hate mail.

:lol:
I do too.
Title: Re: Dijongate
Post by: vinraith on May 09, 2009, 09:43:16 PM
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on May 09, 2009, 09:23:06 PM
Nothing wrong with ordering a burger without ketchup.

Edit:  Then again, proper burger joints don't bother asking which condiments (aside from mayo sometimes, I suppose) you want on the damn thing, and if you want extra special <brand> mustard because you're a douche, you're shit out of luck, and need to just suck it up and use the crusty bottle sitting on the counter or table.

Any place that serves sandwiches of any stripe and is too stupid to recognize a difference between brown and yellow mustard isn't worth bothering with.
Title: Re: Dijongate
Post by: PDH on May 09, 2009, 09:44:18 PM
Anyone who uses the wrong condiments will burn in Hell...or be forced to move to Utah.  Really, there is no difference.
Title: Re: Dijongate
Post by: garbon on May 09, 2009, 09:48:45 PM
Quote from: PDH on May 09, 2009, 09:44:18 PM
Anyone who uses the wrong condiments will burn in Hell...or be forced to move to Utah.  Really, there is no difference.

:w00t: :hug:
Title: Re: Dijongate
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on May 09, 2009, 09:49:03 PM
Quote from: vinraith on May 09, 2009, 09:43:16 PM
Any place that serves sandwiches of any stripe and is too stupid to recognize a difference between brown and yellow mustard isn't worth bothering with.

Yes, but I'm talking about burger joints, not delis/sandwich shops that also happen to squeeze out crappy hamburgers.   I give no shits about what you demand on your triple layer BLT plus turkey minus the bacon or whatever.  ;)  :P
Title: Re: Dijongate
Post by: garbon on May 09, 2009, 09:50:46 PM
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:mmm:
Title: Re: Dijongate
Post by: Eddie Teach on May 09, 2009, 10:51:05 PM
Quote from: vinraith on May 09, 2009, 07:11:31 PM
Quote from: garbon on May 09, 2009, 07:08:54 PM
Quote from: vinraith on May 09, 2009, 06:18:07 PM
Agree with the first and last, but what's the chocolate syrup for?

Ice cream and milk.

Always preferred actual hot fudge on ice cream, but chocolate milk is a good thing.

The kind that's already chocolate milk at the store is way better than the kind from mixing milk and chocolate syrup or powder.
Title: Re: Dijongate
Post by: vinraith on May 10, 2009, 12:52:10 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on May 09, 2009, 10:51:05 PM
Quote from: vinraith on May 09, 2009, 07:11:31 PM
Quote from: garbon on May 09, 2009, 07:08:54 PM
Quote from: vinraith on May 09, 2009, 06:18:07 PM
Agree with the first and last, but what's the chocolate syrup for?

Ice cream and milk.

Always preferred actual hot fudge on ice cream, but chocolate milk is a good thing.

The kind that's already chocolate milk at the store is way better than the kind from mixing milk and chocolate syrup or powder.

I agree, and that's what I usually buy, but it's really a matter of what you want your chocolate milk to taste like.
Title: Re: Dijongate
Post by: garbon on May 10, 2009, 01:14:22 AM
:x

I'm certainly not partial to the pre-made chocolate milk.
Title: Re: Dijongate
Post by: Viking on May 10, 2009, 01:24:54 AM
He smokes, eats red meat, what's next, he drinks beer? If he weren't a blackfella you'd think he was a true red-state'er.
Title: Re: Dijongate
Post by: Siege on May 10, 2009, 01:30:34 AM
Only stupid people eat burgers.

They ain;t kosher.

Title: Re: Dijongate
Post by: Syt on May 10, 2009, 01:31:30 AM
Quote from: Siege on May 10, 2009, 01:30:34 AM
Only stupid people eat burgers.

They ain;t kosher.
You'll never be a real American. :(
Title: Re: Dijongate
Post by: Siege on May 10, 2009, 01:56:52 AM
But I do more for America than your average american-born people do.
I don't take the Land Of The Free for granted.


Title: Re: Dijongate
Post by: vinraith on May 10, 2009, 01:59:48 AM
Quote from: Siege on May 10, 2009, 01:30:34 AM
Only stupid people eat burgers.

They ain;t kosher.



:huh: I don't see why kosher cuts of beef inherently couldn't be used to make a hamburger. Is there something about the processing that rules it out or...?

I mean, if you can make a kosher hot dog :mmm: why not a kosher hamburger?
Title: Re: Dijongate
Post by: Martinus on May 10, 2009, 04:18:42 AM
Damn you all. You made me hungry. Now I have to go out and get a McDonald's burger.  :mad:
Title: Re: Dijongate
Post by: DontSayBanana on May 10, 2009, 09:17:43 AM
Quote from: Martinus on May 10, 2009, 04:18:42 AM
Damn you all. You made me hungry. Now I have to go out and get a McDonald's burger.  :mad:
Not inviting anybody over for dinner. :angry:

Sorry, the joke had to be made. :blush:
Title: Re: Dijongate
Post by: Ed Anger on May 10, 2009, 09:37:57 AM
Quote from: vinraith on May 10, 2009, 01:59:48 AM
Quote from: Siege on May 10, 2009, 01:30:34 AM
Only stupid people eat burgers.

They ain;t kosher.



:huh: I don't see why kosher cuts of beef inherently couldn't be used to make a hamburger. Is there something about the processing that rules it out or...?

I mean, if you can make a kosher hot dog :mmm: why not a kosher hamburger?

Speaking of kosher hot dogs, I grilled some hebrew national franks yesterday.

Good stuff.
Title: Re: Dijongate
Post by: KRonn on May 11, 2009, 12:18:08 PM
Lol, I just love how we skewer our Presidents over these things. Pres Bush I was lampooned in the media for not knowing much about super market checkout scanners. Pres Clinton must have gotten slammed for something trivially similar. Candidate Kerry was lampooned for improper ordering of a Philly cheese steak sandwich, or something like that.   

But hey, I can at least be grateful, hopeful, that we also keep tabs on the important Presidential decisions as well.   

Anyhow, I tend to also like either mustard or ketchup on burgers, though usually ketchup if anything. Usually I go with tomato slices instead of ketchup. I most prefer mustard with hot dogs though.  :cool:
Title: Re: Dijongate
Post by: derspiess on May 11, 2009, 12:22:26 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 09, 2009, 05:47:29 PM
I didn't even know Obama went out and got a burger.

:rolleyes:  You don't pay attention to the news, then.  Let me guess, you missed out on the big story about Barack & Michelle taking a walk together *holding hands* outside the White House???
Title: Re: Dijongate
Post by: derspiess on May 11, 2009, 12:23:36 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 10, 2009, 09:37:57 AM
Speaking of kosher hot dogs, I grilled some hebrew national franks yesterday.

Good stuff.

Hell yeah.  Best brand out there, though Boars Head makes some good 'dawgs.
Title: Re: Dijongate
Post by: Valmy on May 11, 2009, 12:28:47 PM
QuotePres Bush I was lampooned in the media for not knowing much about super market checkout scanners

God that pissed me off...actually that whole 1992 election pissed me off.
Title: Re: Dijongate
Post by: derspiess on May 11, 2009, 12:33:48 PM
Quote from: Valmy on May 11, 2009, 12:28:47 PM
QuotePres Bush I was lampooned in the media for not knowing much about super market checkout scanners

God that pissed me off...actually that whole 1992 election pissed me off.

Well, at least Bush I wasn't an Arabic linguist :P
Title: Re: Dijongate
Post by: Valmy on May 11, 2009, 12:35:40 PM
Quote from: derspiess on May 11, 2009, 12:33:48 PM
Well, at least Bush I wasn't an Arabic linguist :P

HE WAS AN ARABIC LINGUIST?!!!  OH DEAR HOD WHAT DID WE DO!! :o

Oh wait he wasn't....ok good whew.
Title: Re: Dijongate
Post by: KRonn on May 11, 2009, 12:37:08 PM
Quote from: Valmy on May 11, 2009, 12:28:47 PM
QuotePres Bush I was lampooned in the media for not knowing much about super market checkout scanners

God that pissed me off...actually that whole 1992 election pissed me off.
Oh yeah, Ross Perot was popular then, and also his third party. The Reform Party I think?
Title: Re: Dijongate
Post by: KRonn on May 11, 2009, 12:37:45 PM
Quote from: derspiess on May 11, 2009, 12:23:36 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 10, 2009, 09:37:57 AM
Speaking of kosher hot dogs, I grilled some hebrew national franks yesterday.

Good stuff.

Hell yeah.  Best brand out there, though Boars Head makes some good 'dawgs.
Yep, good stuff.    :)
Title: Re: Dijongate
Post by: derspiess on May 11, 2009, 12:51:06 PM
Quote from: KRonn on May 11, 2009, 12:37:08 PM
Oh yeah, Ross Perot was popular then, and also his third party. The Reform Party I think?

The only good thing about Ross Perot was the fun I had mocking people who supported him and the Reform Party.
Title: Re: Dijongate
Post by: DisturbedPervert on May 11, 2009, 12:59:41 PM
If I had to choose between only ketchup or mustard on a burger, I'd go with mustard.  Really would prefer salsa, chilli, or guacamole though.
Title: Re: Dijongate
Post by: KRonn on May 11, 2009, 01:07:23 PM
Quote from: derspiess on May 11, 2009, 12:51:06 PM
Quote from: KRonn on May 11, 2009, 12:37:08 PM
Oh yeah, Ross Perot was popular then, and also his third party. The Reform Party I think?

The only good thing about Ross Perot was the fun I had mocking people who supported him and the Reform Party.
I'm wondering if we aren't coming to that kind of thing again? Dems and Repubs alike seem pretty frustrated with government, and both main parties brought us to where we are. Repubs are already annoyed with the party. For the Dems, it may just be that they're newly in power now, so things haven't sunk in as much. But give it time, and I wonder if Dems will become just as frustrated with their party since it's still business as usual; just the leaders have changed.

That said, I don't expect much change. The two main parties will likely continue on, and voters will continue to make their choices even if they remain frustrated with government business as usual.
Title: Re: Dijongate
Post by: saskganesh on May 11, 2009, 01:48:46 PM
Quote from: Siege on May 10, 2009, 01:30:34 AM
Only stupid people eat burgers.

They ain;t kosher.

http://www.kosher.com/store/kosher-meat/kosher-beef/ground-beef
Title: Re: Dijongate
Post by: Syt on May 11, 2009, 01:51:22 PM
I still need to check out that Books & Bagles place we have downtown.
Title: Re: Dijongate
Post by: Norgy on May 11, 2009, 02:21:08 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 09, 2009, 06:51:48 PM

Welcome to the internet. Just mentioning that I like steak well done gets me hate mail.
:ultra: :ultra: :ultra: :ultra: :ultra: :Joos
Title: Re: Dijongate
Post by: MadImmortalMan on May 11, 2009, 03:35:27 PM
http://www.greypouponpardon.com/

:P
Title: Re: Dijongate
Post by: DontSayBanana on May 11, 2009, 05:10:09 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on May 11, 2009, 03:35:27 PM
http://www.greypouponpardon.com/

:P
:lmfao:
Title: Re: Dijongate
Post by: The Minsky Moment on May 11, 2009, 05:13:40 PM
Quote from: garbon on May 09, 2009, 06:01:24 PM
Quote from: Maximus on May 09, 2009, 05:57:48 PM
A sensible person. Ketchup is a biohazard.

My mother raised me properly.  Items that one should always have in ample supply at home : peanut butter, hershey's chocolate syrup, and ketchup.

You fail at being fabulous.   :(
Title: Re: Dijongate
Post by: The Larch on May 11, 2009, 05:38:43 PM
Quote from: saskganesh on May 11, 2009, 01:48:46 PM
Quote from: Siege on May 10, 2009, 01:30:34 AM
Only stupid people eat burgers.

They ain;t kosher.

http://www.kosher.com/store/kosher-meat/kosher-beef/ground-beef

I'll one-up you.  :P

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Title: Re: Dijongate
Post by: garbon on May 11, 2009, 10:25:32 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on May 11, 2009, 05:13:40 PM
You fail at being fabulous.   :(

This is about being practical.  No one wants a fabulous mother. :contract:
Title: Re: Dijongate
Post by: Olive on May 12, 2009, 06:05:37 AM
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