http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2124246/Samantha-Brick-downsides-looking-pretty-Why-women-hate-beautiful.html
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Quote'There are downsides to looking this pretty': Why women hate me for being beautiful
By Samantha Brick
PUBLISHED: 00:08 GMT, 3 April 2012 | UPDATED: 14:16 GMT, 3 April 2012
On a recent flight to New York, I was delighted when a stewardess came over and gave me a bottle of champagne.
'This is from the captain — he wants to welcome you on board and hopes you have a great flight today,' she explained.
You're probably thinking 'what a lovely surprise'. But while it was lovely, it wasn't a surprise. At least, not for me.
'Good looking woman': But Samantha Brick says that her pleasing looks have been a curse, with many of her own sex becoming resentful
Throughout my adult life, I've regularly had bottles of bubbly or wine sent to my restaurant table by men I don't know. Once, a well-dressed chap bought my train ticket when I was standing behind him in the queue, while there was another occasion when a charming gentleman paid my fare as I stepped out of a cab in Paris.
Another time, as I was walking through London's Portobello Road market, I was tapped on the shoulder and presented with a beautiful bunch of flowers. Even bar tenders frequently shoo my credit card away when I try to settle my bill.
And whenever I've asked what I've done to deserve such treatment, the donors of these gifts have always said the same thing: my pleasing appearance and pretty smile made their day.
While I'm no Elle Macpherson, I'm tall, slim, blonde and, so I'm often told, a good-looking woman. I know how lucky I am. But there are downsides to being pretty — the main one being that other women hate me for no other reason than my lovely looks.
If you're a woman reading this, I'd hazard that you've already formed your own opinion about me — and it won't be very flattering. For while many doors have been opened (literally) as a result of my looks, just as many have been metaphorically slammed in my face — and usually by my own sex.
I'm not smug and I'm no flirt, yet over the years I've been dropped by countless friends who felt threatened if I was merely in the presence of their other halves. If their partners dared to actually talk to me, a sudden chill would descend on the room.
Taken: Samantha with her French husband Pascal Rubinat. Ten years her senior, he takes great pride in hearing other men declare that she's a beautiful woman and always tells her to laugh off bitchy comments from other women
And it is not just jealous wives who have frozen me out of their lives. Insecure female bosses have also barred me from promotions at work.
And most poignantly of all, not one girlfriend has ever asked me to be her bridesmaid.
You'd think we women would applaud each other for taking pride in our appearances.
I work at mine — I don't drink or smoke, I work out, even when I don't feel like it, and very rarely succumb to chocolate. Unfortunately women find nothing more annoying than someone else being the most attractive girl in a room.
Take last week, out walking the dogs a neighbour passed by in her car. I waved — she blatantly blanked me. Yet this is someone whose sons have stayed at my house, and who has been welcomed into my home on countless occasions.
I approached a mutual friend and discreetly enquired if I'd made a faux pas. It seems the only crime I've committed is not leaving the house with a bag over my head.She doesn't like me, I discovered, because she views me as a threat. The friend pointed out she is shorter, heavier and older than me.
And, according to our mutual friend, she is adamant that something could happen between her husband and me, 'were the right circumstances in place'. Yet I'm happily married, and have been for the past four years.
This isn't the first time such paranoia has gripped the women around me. In my early 20s, when I first started in television as a researcher, one female boss in her late 30s would regularly invite me over for dinner after a long day in the office.
I always accepted her invitation, as during office hours we got along famously. But one evening her partner was at home. We were all a couple of glasses of wine into the evening. Then he and I said we both liked the song we were listening to.
She laid into her bewildered partner for 'fancying' me, then turned on me, calling me unrepeatable names before ridiculing me for dying my hair and wearing lipstick. I declined any further invitations.
Therapist Marisa Peer, author of self-help guide Ultimate Confidence, says that women have always measured themselves against each other by their looks rather than achievements — and it can make the lives of the good-looking very difficult.
'Many of my clients are models, yet people are always astounded when I explain they don't have it easy,' she says. If you are attractive other women think you lead a perfect life — which simply isn't true.
Hard work: Samantha takes pride in her appearance. She works out - even when she doesn't feel like it - she doesn't drink, she doesn't smoke... and rarely does she succumb to chocolate
'They don't realise you are just as vulnerable as they are. It's hard when everyone resents you for your looks. Men think "what's the point, she's out of my league" and don't ask you out. And women don't want to hang out with someone more attractive than they are.'
I certainly found that out the hard way, particularly in the office.
One contract I accepted was blighted by a jealous female boss. It was the height of summer and I'd opted to wear knee length, cap-sleeved dresses. They were modest, yet pretty; more Kate Middleton than Katie Price.
But my boss pulled me into her office and informed me my dress style was distracting her male employees. I didn't dare point out that there were other women in the office wearing similar attire.
Rather than argue, I worked out the rest of my contract wearing baggy, sombre-coloured trouser suits. It was clear that when you have a female boss, it's best to let them shine, but when you have a male boss, it's a different game: I have written in the Mail on how I have flirted to get ahead at work, something I'm sure many women do.
Women, however, are far more problematic. With one phenomenally tricky boss, I eventually managed to carve out a positive working relationship. But a year in, her attitude towards me changed; the deterioration began when she started to put on weight.
We were both employed by a big broadcasting company. One of our male UK chiefs recommended I take the company's global leadership course, which meant doors would have opened for me around the world.
All I needed were two personal recommendations to be eligible. As everyone in the office agreed I was good at my job, I didn't think this would be a problem.
But while the male executive signed the paperwork without hesitation, my immediate boss refused to sign. When I asked her right-hand woman why, she pulled me to one side and explained that my boss was jealous of me.
Things between us rapidly deteriorated. Whenever I wore something new she'd sneer at me in front of other colleagues that she was the star, not me.
Six months later I handed in my notice. Privately she begged me to stay, blaming the nasty comments on her hormones. She was in her early 40s and confided she was having marital problems. But by then I'd had enough.
I find that older women are the most hostile to beautiful women — perhaps because they feel their own bloom fading. Because my husband is ten years older than me, his social circle is that bit older too.
As a Frenchman, he takes great pride in hearing other men declare that I'm a beautiful woman and always tells me to laugh off bitchy comments from other women.
Yet I dread the inevitable sarky comments. 'Here she comes. We're in the village hall yet Sam's dressed for the Albert Hall,' was one I recently overheard. As a result I find dinner parties and social gatherings fraught and if I can't wriggle out of them, then often dress down in jeans and a demure, albeit pretty, top.
But even these ploys don't always work. Take last summer and a birthday party I attended with my husband. At one point the host, who was celebrating his 50th, decided he wanted a photo with all the women guests. Positioning us, the photographer suggested I stand immediately to his right for the shot.
Another woman I barely knew pushed me out of the way, shouting it wasn't fair on all the other women if I was dominating the snap. I was devastated and burst into tears. On my own in the loos one woman privately consoled me — well out of ear-shot of her girlfriends.
So now I'm 41 and probably one of very few women entering her fifth decade welcoming the decline of my looks. I can't wait for the wrinkles and the grey hair that will help me blend into the background.
Perhaps then the sisterhood will finally stop judging me so harshly on what I look like, and instead accept me for who I am.
You have got to follow the link to see her pictures. Its not April 1 so I am not sure what the explanation might be.
She is certainly lovely but not to the point I would think women would dislike her for it or that men would gift her stuff all the time. Weird.
The article about the Daily Mail Sheilbh posted was really good. This just further supports what it said. The Daily Mail is damn good at what it does.
Her face is crooked.
She's not ugly, but I was expecting someone rather more attractive in the pictures. :(
I presume the answer is that people don't like her because she is unreasonably conceited, not because of her looks.
Or that this is an exercise in trolling.
Quote from: Malthus on April 03, 2012, 01:54:32 PM
She's not ugly, but I was expecting someone rather more attractive in the pictures. :(
I presume the answer is that people don't like her because she is unreasonably conceited, not because of her looks.
Or that this is an exercise in trolling.
Yes, I've encountered many more naturally beautiful women; he'll the young hospital audiologist who did my hearing test last week was arguable more beautiful.
I think you're right about the conceit, this woman has gotten the idea into her head, her husband hasn't talked her out of it and the newspaper is happy to play along for a laugh and some column inches.
Quote from: mongers on April 03, 2012, 02:12:52 PM
Yes, I've encountered many more naturally beautiful women; he'll the young hospital audiologist who did my hearing test last week was arguable more beautiful.
Well, I was going to make a comment that perhaps she *is* the most beautiful woman in
England ... Brazen excepted, of course. :P
Quote from: Valmy on April 03, 2012, 01:51:46 PM
She is certainly lovely but not to the point I would think women would dislike her for it or that men would gift her stuff all the time. Weird.
Well, she is British.
I'd say she's pleasant-looking and is probably doing the best with what she has (which earns bonus points in my book) but I think "lovely" is stretching it a bit.
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 03, 2012, 01:49:12 PM
You have got to follow the link to see her pictures. Its not April 1 so I am not sure what the explanation might be.
Heh, no shit. Half those photos, she looks like she's grimacing to snap off the morning loaf.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 03, 2012, 03:02:25 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 03, 2012, 01:49:12 PM
You have got to follow the link to see her pictures. Its not April 1 so I am not sure what the explanation might be.
Heh, no shit. Half those photos, she looks like she's grimacing to snap off the morning loaf.
THAT IS HOT
:lol:
I saw at least 3 women hotter than her at work today and I am working in a genetics labs with a bunch of science nerds.
I was thinking about those internet standards and how we find good looking women to be simply "meh", but I'm glad I wasn't the only one wondering what was going on here.
It's difficult to find attractive British chicks in porn. But I haven't seen Brazen's "Journalist Jugglies" series yet.
She's a lot closer to ugly than she is to pretty.
Ugly bitch thinks she is all that, she is not. I would still hit it of course.
Even after reading the comments in the thread, I was still expecting better.
Delusion is the gift you give yourself.
Quote from: HVC on April 03, 2012, 04:07:45 PM
Delusion is the gift you give yourself.
Yes, o porto-canuck Confucius. :P
Quote from: derspiess on April 03, 2012, 02:17:55 PM
Quote from: Valmy on April 03, 2012, 01:51:46 PM
She is certainly lovely but not to the point I would think women would dislike her for it or that men would gift her stuff all the time. Weird.
Well, she is British.
I'd say she's pleasant-looking and is probably doing the best with what she has (which earns bonus points in my book) but I think "lovely" is stretching it a bit.
Hmmmm in my defense I only saw the first pic in the article when I posted that. She looked sorta milfy. The other pics she just looks like a middle aged lady.
Quote from: HVC on April 03, 2012, 04:07:45 PM
Delusion is the gift you give yourself.
Yes, this poor woman has been set up. Someone really should have had advised her to drop it all, but then again I guess maybe "Vanity, thy name is women" might be true, for some/many/x quantity of women. :D
I also came up with: look but don't touch. Touch but don't tell. Tell but always lie
I should write a book. It'd only be two lines long, but those lines would be golden :P
Quote from: mongers on April 03, 2012, 04:14:37 PM
Quote from: HVC on April 03, 2012, 04:07:45 PM
Delusion is the gift you give yourself.
Yes, this poor woman has been set up. Someone really should have had advised her to drop it all, but then again I guess maybe "Vanity, thy name is women" might be true, for some/many/x quantity of women. :D
That is the other thing this is a pretty mysogynistic article. I do not even think it is true. Studies tend to show people react to beautiful people positively across the board.
Quote from: mongers on April 03, 2012, 04:14:37 PM
Yes, this poor woman has been set up. Someone really should have had advised her to drop it all, but then again I guess maybe "Vanity, thy name is women" might be true, for some/many/x quantity of women. :D
That's assuming the writer of the article is sincere. Which I sorta doubt. Sounds like trolling to me. ;)
Quote from: Valmy on April 03, 2012, 04:16:17 PM
That is the other thing this is a pretty mysogynistic article. I do not even think it is true. Studies tend to show people react to beautiful people positively across the board.
The Economist did a write up of a new study claiming to show that this is true for good looking men but that good looking women actually operate under a handicap in hiring. The authors' explanation was that HR departments are 93% female.
My extremely tentative modification to this thesis is that good looking women do better in fields or companies where line staff rather than HR departments make the hiring decisions.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 03, 2012, 04:40:53 PM
My extremely tentative modification to this thesis is that good looking women do better in fields or companies where line staff rather than HR departments make the hiring decisions.
That's been the case everywhere I've worked.
Quote from: Valmy on April 03, 2012, 04:16:17 PM
Studies tend to show people react to beautiful people positively across the board.
Not me, man. I treat them with the same loathing and distrust I reserve for ugly people.
And besides, my gorgeousness hasn't helped me out very often, either.
I'm guessing she has one of two things: Enormous jugs or a mental condition.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 03, 2012, 04:40:53 PM
The Economist did a write up of a new study claiming to show that this is true for good looking men
It is the cross I bear.
So as the adage go, man is a wolf to man, woman is a bitch to woman. Film at 11. It's not new that women are catty and competitive against one another.
Besides, true beauty is subjective, and maybe that woman that you call "meh" can easily pack a hundred men's phone number within the evening. Maybe she has nice... charms.
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 03, 2012, 05:13:41 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 03, 2012, 04:40:53 PM
The Economist did a write up of a new study claiming to show that this is true for good looking men
It is the cross I bear.
Listen, you are just lucky you were not alive when John Hunter was active. You'd have ended up like poor Charles Byrne - displayed in a case for the horrified amusement of the public. :P
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Byrne_(giant)
It is known that height and good looks go together. Indeed it is difficult to tell where one begins and the other ends.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 03, 2012, 04:40:53 PM
The Economist did a write up of a new study claiming to show that this is true for good looking men but that good looking women actually operate under a handicap in hiring. The authors' explanation was that HR departments are 93% female.
My extremely tentative modification to this thesis is that good looking women do better in fields or companies where line staff rather than HR departments make the hiring decisions.
Also, good looking women are handicaped by the fact that they are perceived as less intelligent or less competent than their peers, male or female, for the same job, or there are there because of "lateral advancement" rather than competence. Sexiness also play against them when managing positions of responsability involving customers, for instance in financial services, for the same reasons.
Which is all superficial prejudice horseshit, really.
Quote from: Razgovory on April 03, 2012, 04:53:04 PM
I'm guessing she has one of two things: Enormous jugs or a mental condition.
A friend of mine used to date someone who had both. Perky, too. They explained why he managed to keep up with her for a year. To this day he cannot talk about women without repeatedly mentioning how extraordinary his ex's boobs were.
Curiosly enough given the evolution of the thread, she works as an HR exec.
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 03, 2012, 05:32:01 PM
It is known that height and good looks go together. Indeed it is difficult to tell where one begins and the other ends.
For males, I'd agree. For females, not so. Taller women are intimidating, and very few tall women want nonetheless to date shorter men.
Quote from: Drakken on April 03, 2012, 05:42:46 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 03, 2012, 05:32:01 PM
It is known that height and good looks go together. Indeed it is difficult to tell where one begins and the other ends.
For males, I'd agree. For females, not so. Taller women are intimidating, and very few tall women want nonetheless to date shorter men.
I've never been intimidated by tall women; hell, that just means they have longer legs, yummy. So they're the ones with the problem.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 03, 2012, 05:44:05 PM
I've never been intimidated by tall women; hell, that just means they have longer legs, yummy. So they're the ones with the problem.
To each is own, really. A woman over 6 feet is not very attractive to me. Some might be really charming and flirtatious even if I'm smaller, but I've encountered some taller women with a shitty entitlement attitude just because they are taller.
My preference is usually the petite type, yet my girlfriend is a 5'10", busty type. She confirmed that she'd never had dated me if I had been shorter than her, even if she's taller than quite a few men at her height.
Quote from: Drakken on April 03, 2012, 05:42:46 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 03, 2012, 05:32:01 PM
It is known that height and good looks go together. Indeed it is difficult to tell where one begins and the other ends.
For males, I'd agree. For females, not so. Taller women are intimidating, and very few tall women want nonetheless to date shorter men.
I suppose it is a matter of perspective. I have always found tall women much more attractive.
Quote from: Drakken on April 03, 2012, 05:52:16 PM
but I've encountered some taller women with a shitty entitlement attitude just because they are taller.
First you recognize a universal truism that tall is better only to then deny it.
Oh, don't get me wrong, I prefer them little so I can spin them like a top and my cock looks bigger in her face, but there are some fine, tall, leggy women out there I would've gone after with a Sherpa guide in a heartbeat.
Quoteyet my girlfriend is a 5'10" Christina Hendricks-busty type. She confirmed that she'd never had dated me if I had been shorter than her, even if she's taller than quite a few men at her height.
Sounds like a nice, superficial bitch. I'm sure you're happy together. :P
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 03, 2012, 05:55:46 PM
Quote from: Drakken on April 03, 2012, 05:52:16 PM
but I've encountered some taller women with a shitty entitlement attitude just because they are taller.
First you recognize a universal truism that tall is better only to then deny it.
Tall is better - for men. :rolleyes:
Tall is perceived as good for females only on Metropolitan fashion shows, because supermodels are taller.
Quote from: Drakken on April 03, 2012, 05:57:08 PM
Tall is perceived as good for females only on Metropolitan fashion shows...
and by tall men as well as other men without issues dealing with tall women. Learn from Cdm, he has much to teach on the subject.
Quote from: Drakken on April 03, 2012, 05:57:08 PM
Tall is better - for men. :rolleyes:
Maybe for high-end designer men's fashions, but not for pure, primal powah. Katmai and I can attest to that.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 03, 2012, 05:56:01 PM
Sounds like a nice, superficial bitch. I'm sure you're happy together. :P
You know the saying, to hook them they have to like what they're seein', or like what they're hearin'. :cool:
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 03, 2012, 06:00:46 PM
Quote from: Drakken on April 03, 2012, 05:57:08 PM
Tall is better - for men. :rolleyes:
Maybe for high-end designer men's fashions, but not for pure, primal powah. Katmai and I can attest to that.
:huh:
You heard me. STOUT IS WHERE ITS AT
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 03, 2012, 05:59:15 PM
Quote from: Drakken on April 03, 2012, 05:57:08 PM
Tall is perceived as good for females only on Metropolitan fashion shows...
and by tall men as well as other men without issues dealing with tall women. Learn from Cdm, he has much to teach on the subject.
Still a master at flinging logical fallacies, are you CC? I call false dilemma, because of course any "normal" man would automatically have a boner for a tall woman, and those who don't automatically have an "issue" with tall women, or all women in general. How about, simply, tall women don't give me a rock-on?
Good if a taller woman makes you moist in your tiny pants, but it's not the case with me. It's all subjective, so let's leave it at that.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 03, 2012, 06:05:58 PM
You heard me. STOUT IS WHERE ITS AT
Hey, if you can talk her into seeing it that way, more power to you.
Quote from: Drakken on April 03, 2012, 06:08:21 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 03, 2012, 05:59:15 PM
Quote from: Drakken on April 03, 2012, 05:57:08 PM
Tall is perceived as good for females only on Metropolitan fashion shows...
and by tall men as well as other men without issues dealing with tall women. Learn from Cdm, he has much to teach on the subject.
Still a master at flinging logical fallacies, are you CC? I call false dilemma, because of course any "normal" man would automatically have a boner for a tall woman, and those who don't automatically have an "issue" with tall women, or all women in general.
Good if a taller woman makes you moist in your tiny pants, but it's not the case with me. It's all subjective, so let's leave it at that.
Anyone ever tell you that you sweat the little stuff way too much?
Taller women don't have to exercise as much restraint in their diet to look good.
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 03, 2012, 06:10:13 PM
Anyone ever tell you that you sweat the little stuff way too much?
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Quote from: Peter Wiggin on April 03, 2012, 06:11:28 PM
Taller women don't have to exercise as much restraint in their diet to look good.
Damned right they do. Ever see a 5'11" walking pear? It can happen.
Sure, but she probably eats as much as I do. A woman who's 5'2" can eat 2000 calories a day and still look enormous.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 03, 2012, 03:38:53 PM
It's difficult to find attractive British chicks in porn. But I haven't seen Brazen's "Journalist Jugglies" series yet.
This is true. And when you find some they always have that nasty chav accent and it's like nails on a chalk board as they shriek out curse words. Bleh. I like the Eastern European ones. They find some pretty girls and you don't have a clue what they are saying.
I find the whole height obsession sort of puzzling.
Is that chick that was in Dinner for Fools and Bad Teacher English? Smokin' body. I saw her in some English movie where she played Anthony Hopkins' trophy wife. Is that a Sarf London accent she has in that flic? It was unfamiliar to me.
Quote from: Razgovory on April 03, 2012, 06:24:01 PM
This is true. And when you find some they always have that nasty chav accent and it's like nails on a chalk board as they shriek out curse words. Bleh. I like the Eastern European ones. They find some pretty girls and you don't have a clue what they are saying.
Are you confusing porn with reality tv? :unsure:
I don't watch reality TV.
Quote from: Jacob on April 03, 2012, 06:28:12 PM
I find the whole height obsession sort of puzzling.
IIRC, you're tall and thin.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 03, 2012, 06:49:44 PM
Quote from: Jacob on April 03, 2012, 06:28:12 PM
I find the whole height obsession sort of puzzling.
IIRC, you're tall and thin.
lol, he isnt anywhere near 6'7''.
In other news, it seems others have had a similar reaction to the story. From the Globe:
QuoteThe main point most people seem to like making is that Ms. Brick may be perky and blond (and certainly not short on confidence). But she isn't really all that ravishing.
Of course, the tweets don't put it quite so politely. Some people have been downright nasty – hurling insults like verbal spitballs. Others have wondered if this isn't all a joke. One imagines that Ms. Brick has a thick skin to match her big ego.
The main point of her essay has a ring of truth to it – as research has shown, women can be the toughest critics of good-looking members of their own sex. (Otherwise, we wouldn't have all those celebrity cellulite spottings in magazines.) One Canadian experiment has demonstrated, for instance, that women will even snipe with strangers if a woman is dressed too provocatively in their presence – something that will come as no surprise to most women.
But the bigger question the essay raises is this: What does the reaction say about us? At best, Ms. Brick looks in the mirror and sees something fabulous – and good on her, though perhaps she was unwise to share that view so baldly with the world. At worst, she's just conceited. But do the rest of us need to be so ugly, as The Telegraph sagely observed.
Writing the Telegraph piece, Brendan O'Neill asks, "Which is sadder: a woman who thinks she is beautiful even though she is actually average-looking, possibly even plain, or the swarming together of thousands and thousands of people to ridicule and heap bile upon said silly woman? Yep, it's the latter."
As he points out, it's not Ms. Brick's essay that should make us take notice, it's all those people on Twitter pouncing with such ferocious delight to attack her.
It's not pretty, to say the least.
What do you think of the reaction to Ms. Brick's essay? And what does it say about us?
What says languish? Did we really have to be so "ugly".
She is somewhat goodlooking, as a grandmother.
:lol:
Yes, we really did.
I'm happy for Mrs Brick if she does not have problematic body issue problems. She might be one of those girls who just is fabulous and gorgeous by virtue of her spirit and attitude. Picture wise, the random girl I find at the supermarket is better looking.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on April 03, 2012, 07:22:41 PM
:lol:
Yes, we really did.
Exactly. People who are too full of themselves like this must be destroyed.
she's what, 41? maybe she's just living int he past. Besides her 50 year old husbands friends, but compared to most 50 year olds she wins be a large margin.
It's absolutely true because I read it in the Daily Mail.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eBT6OSr1TI
She is above average but no where near the top.
Besides CC is conceited giant and Drakken is swedish wannabe space cadet from mars, can anyone else catch me up to date on this thread?
Quote from: katmai on April 03, 2012, 07:51:00 PM
Besides CC is conceited giant and Drakken is swedish wannabe space cadet from mars, can anyone else catch my up to date on this thread?
Brit chicks have weird faces.
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 03, 2012, 07:52:51 PM
Quote from: katmai on April 03, 2012, 07:51:00 PM
Besides CC is conceited giant and Drakken is swedish wannabe space cadet from mars, can anyone else catch my up to date on this thread?
Brit chicks have weird faces.
tru dat yo!
Fun Ed Anger fact:
I thought 'Sporty Spice' looked fuckable.
The 90's were a weird time.
Quote from: katmai on April 03, 2012, 07:51:00 PM
Besides CC is conceited giant and Drakken is swedish wannabe space cadet from mars, can anyone else catch me up to date on this thread?
Woman is conceited, delusional, or all british women are ugly (except brazen). She's dumb for submitting the article. people on the internet are mean.
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 03, 2012, 07:57:10 PM
Fun Ed Anger fact:
I thought 'Sporty Spice' looked fuckable.
The 90's were a weird time.
I liked her best :blush:
Quote from: katmai on April 03, 2012, 07:51:00 PM
Besides CC is conceited giant
Truth is always a defence.
Quote from: Jacob on April 03, 2012, 06:28:12 PM
I find the whole height obsession sort of puzzling.
Indeed
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 03, 2012, 06:49:44 PM
Quote from: Jacob on April 03, 2012, 06:28:12 PM
I find the whole height obsession sort of puzzling.
IIRC, you're tall and thin.
By some standards in some places. In others, not so much.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 03, 2012, 04:45:43 PM
Quote from: Valmy on April 03, 2012, 04:16:17 PM
Studies tend to show people react to beautiful people positively across the board.
Not me, man. I treat them with the same loathing and distrust I reserve for ugly people.
Concur. Any very beautiful woman (on the conventional scale) is presumptively a bitch. Some 9s and 10s on my idiosyncratic scale are all right, because on the conventional scale they may be more like 7s or 8s.
I am proven wrong from time to time, but it's a good rule. And psychologically defensive!
Simply attractive men don't bother me as much, although I envy them; however, tall men I want to kick right in the fucking shins.
Quote from: Ideologue on April 04, 2012, 12:42:36 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 03, 2012, 04:45:43 PM
Quote from: Valmy on April 03, 2012, 04:16:17 PM
Studies tend to show people react to beautiful people positively across the board.
Not me, man. I treat them with the same loathing and distrust I reserve for ugly people.
Concur. Any very beautiful woman (on the conventional scale) is presumptively a bitch. Some 9s and 10s on my idiosyncratic scale are all right, because on the conventional scale they may be more like 7s or 8s.
I am proven wrong from time to time, but it's a good rule. And psychologically defensive!
Simply attractive men don't bother me as much, although I envy them; however, tall men I want to kick right in the fucking shins.
Seconded on the sheer usefulness of the psychologically defensive presumptive bitch posture.
Tall guys get the kick in the balls. But tall AND thin? Get the fucking bat. :mad:
:blush: I keep searching for a 'Like' button.
Define "tall".
Maybe she was really hot when she was in her 20s and is just futilely clinging to past glory? :hmm:
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 04, 2012, 01:03:50 AM
Maybe she was really hot when she was in her 20s and is just futilely clinging to past glory? :hmm:
She had that same nose in her 20's.
Not hot.
As I have said many times before, the Daily Mail is very good at what it does.
A story about a beautiful woman who actually is a beautiful woman is not very interesting. One where the woman is decidedly average is much more interesting.
British print newspaper sales are in terminal decline. To keep turning a profit they need to work out some way of making money from their online editions. According to The Economist fewer than 30% of the visits to the Mail's site are from Britain, so they are appealing to an increasingly global audience. The Guardian has a report on their financial success from this :
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/feb/08/mail-online-revenue-growth
Yes, I'm currently batting off reports the Daily Mail made saying Russia is developing a zombie weapon. Russia did actually announce that it was giving more money to research unconventional weapons including psychotronic ones (which I'd already reported on last week), then deftly segues into a report to say they'd actually researched an energy weapon that makes people in a crowd uncomfortably hot. Sigh.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2123415/Putin-targets-foes-zombie-gun-attack-victims-central-nervous-system.html?ito=feeds-newsxml (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2123415/Putin-targets-foes-zombie-gun-attack-victims-central-nervous-system.html?ito=feeds-newsxml)
Judging myself equally as attractive as Ms Brick but without the wonky nose, eyes and teeth, where's my champagne?
The Guardian has joined in the fun :
http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2012/apr/04/samantha-brick-hated-good-looks
:D
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on April 04, 2012, 02:00:07 PM
The Guardian has joined in the fun :
http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2012/apr/04/samantha-brick-hated-good-looks
:D
Oh my God that was good.
QuoteJust last November a woman I've never met stopped me outside a supermarket to give me a poppy.
I feel a rage I can hardly express in words for this handsome bastard.
That was great
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on April 04, 2012, 02:00:07 PM
The Guardian has joined in the fun :
http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2012/apr/04/samantha-brick-hated-good-looks
:D
Well played.
QuoteFor every female Starbucks employee who made it her business to remember my name, there was a male employer telling me to do up my top three shirt buttons in the office.
:lol:
The Guardian says Daily Mail is sexist and stuff: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/apr/04/samantha-brick-thrown-to-wolves?INTCMP=SRCH
QuoteWhich leads us to the issue about how much it obviously hates its female writers. Again, and not coincidentally, it has plenty of those in abundance. There was much talk a few months ago about how poorly represented women are in the media. As Kira Cochrane pointed out in her extensive piece on the matter, the Daily Mail comes closer than any other British paper in achieving parity of male and female bylines, yet this paper overturns the assumption that gender equality among writers is, in and of itself, the goal. The paper uses its female writers as Trojan horses to voice its most misogynistic attitudes, whether its having them embody the worst kind of female stereotypes (Liz Jones as the label-obsessed bitter single woman, Amanda Platell as the high-flying but lonely single woman, Jan Moir as Glenda Slagg, etc etc) through their confessional journalism, or having them write horrible things about other women, such as Lynda Lee Potter's notorious take on Mo Mowlam or Allison Pearson's opinion on Princess Beatrice's body.
However this is weird:
QuoteThe general motto of the Daily Mail seems to be that a woman's role in life is to be pretty, thin, get married, quit work, have children and, ideally, disappear or die before getting embarrassingly old and fat (it is no wonder the paper loved Diana so much.)
It seems the Daily Mail thinks it is the 1970s which is probably the last time a mom was able to quit work outside of the upper classes.
And the lady says that all the hubbub about the article just proves that she's right and that people are jealous of her:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2124782/Samantha-Brick-says-backlash-bile-yesterdays-Daily-Mail-proves-shes-right.html
What will the Daily Mail force the poor girl to write next? :(
I like Samantha Brick, she has cojones and probably has a devastatingly sexy bearing posture and attitude. She's the kind of woman that would never, despite the guardians best efforts, starve herself or puke after meals. So what if she's delusional, she's happy and functional and when she looks in the mirror she doesn't hate herself.
I can't see what's so wrong with S. Brick except her desire to declare herself attractive...I can hardly imagine how being a little conceited taps into such a wellspring of anon haters...
QuoteIf Brad Pitt were to say: 'Yes, I'm a good-looking fella,' then the world would nod sagely in agreement. But if Angelina Jolie uttered something along those lines, she'd be subject to the same foaming-at-the-mouth onslaught hurled at me yesterday.
:lol:
I do believe she is "taking the piss".
Certainly this whole thing is one of the better trolls recently. Of course she caught people of guard by writing this in the Daily Mail, otherwise known for its well researched, unexcited news coverage.
Quote from: Viking on April 06, 2012, 12:25:25 AM
I like Samantha Brick, she has cojones and probably has a devastatingly sexy bearing posture and attitude. She's the kind of woman that would never, despite the guardians best efforts, starve herself or puke after meals. So what if she's delusional, she's happy and functional and when she looks in the mirror she doesn't hate herself.
Claiming she is a victim of the female gender's collective jealousy (and the male gender's collective desire to buy her shit) is what she was doing here. If she didn't decide to attack other people I would have no problem with it at all.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on April 06, 2012, 12:50:39 AM
QuoteIf Brad Pitt were to say: 'Yes, I'm a good-looking fella,' then the world would nod sagely in agreement. But if Angelina Jolie uttered something along those lines, she'd be subject to the same foaming-at-the-mouth onslaught hurled at me yesterday.
:lol:
I do believe she is "taking the piss".
Yeah that is pretty hilarious. No way she could seriously mean that.
Quote from: Viking on April 06, 2012, 12:25:25 AM
I like Samantha Brick, she has cojones and probably has a devastatingly sexy bearing posture and attitude.
An average-looking woman who thinks she's drop-dead gorgeous gets points taken away in my book.
How are you guys applauding her? This is no different from the "I'm hideous" crowd- it's just the other pole of the same delusion. Unrealistically elevated self-image, unrealistically low self-esteem.
Don't feed the attention whore, move along.
Quote from: DontSayBanana on April 06, 2012, 11:56:55 AM
How are you guys applauding her? This is no different from the "I'm hideous" crowd- it's just the other pole of the same delusion. Unrealistically elevated self-image, unrealistically low self-esteem.
Don't feed the attention whore, move along.
Meh if it gets posted on Languish it will be discussed by us. Blame Romania.
This woman is a babe. You all are just haters and anti-wimin. :moon:
Needs implants.
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fzionstrumpet.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F04%2Farticle-0-043F7A1C000005DC-637_468x482.jpg&hash=6bb5ee10c19c5dfd74b0dfacf5507cea4a86c9a0)
Damn missed a nip shot by a cunt hair. :glare:
Quote from: Valmy on April 06, 2012, 12:02:01 PM
Blame Romania.
Really that should just be a default position.
Quote from: KRonn on April 06, 2012, 05:10:37 PM
This woman is a babe. You all are just haters and anti-wimin. :moon:
Also: getting laid regularly by a woman who is more attractive to me. :moon:
Quote from: DontSayBanana on April 06, 2012, 09:38:28 PM
Quote from: KRonn on April 06, 2012, 05:10:37 PM
This woman is a babe. You all are just haters and anti-wimin. :moon:
Also: getting laid regularly by a woman who is more attractive to me. :moon:
I'm not sure I would brag about a bar set so incredibly low, but congrats. :cheers:
I think we have the same nose.
Proof enough that she isn't gorgeous.
Doable though.
Quote from: Valmy on April 06, 2012, 07:40:49 AM
Quote from: Viking on April 06, 2012, 12:25:25 AM
I like Samantha Brick, she has cojones and probably has a devastatingly sexy bearing posture and attitude. She's the kind of woman that would never, despite the guardians best efforts, starve herself or puke after meals. So what if she's delusional, she's happy and functional and when she looks in the mirror she doesn't hate herself.
Claiming she is a victim of the female gender's collective jealousy (and the male gender's collective desire to buy her shit) is what she was doing here. If she didn't decide to attack other people I would have no problem with it at all.
I prefer confident women... which is a problem for me since confident women think they are too good for me.. :weep:
Quote from: Viking on April 07, 2012, 10:20:32 AM
Quote from: Valmy on April 06, 2012, 07:40:49 AM
Quote from: Viking on April 06, 2012, 12:25:25 AM
I like Samantha Brick, she has cojones and probably has a devastatingly sexy bearing posture and attitude. She's the kind of woman that would never, despite the guardians best efforts, starve herself or puke after meals. So what if she's delusional, she's happy and functional and when she looks in the mirror she doesn't hate herself.
Claiming she is a victim of the female gender's collective jealousy (and the male gender's collective desire to buy her shit) is what she was doing here. If she didn't decide to attack other people I would have no problem with it at all.
I prefer confident women... which is a problem for me since confident women think they are too good for me.. :weep:
EEh, in a few years it will be all over but the sagging for her. It will just keep going south.