German companies don't seem to be big on job titles but that's different elsewhere as far as I can tell. In our foreign subsidiaries, everybody has a fancy title. Lots of "vice presidents", "directors" and so on. I work in the corporate HQ in Germany, so a "vice president" there is some really high-ranking person who usually has a multi-billion budget and thousands of employees. But in our foreign subsidiaries, every mid-ranking manager seems to call themselves "vice president" or "director".
So when I am asked what my title is, I never know what to say as my job in Germany doesn't have a title as far as I know. Maybe "associate" or "clerk", but when even low-ranking staffers in our foreign subsidiaries have a fancy title it sounds strange to them.
Do you have a fancy job title?
In US, some companies inflate titles way more than others. I know one company where it seems like every second person is a Vice President of something. In my company, only the most senior of senior people ever get that title.
I'm a Vice-President of Operations at my company. ^_^
Of course, I'm only the second employee of three at the moment, and I got to pick my own title.
Quote from: Zanza on April 06, 2010, 10:30:39 PM
Do you have a fancy job title?
Crown Counsel. :cool:
I'm an accounting specialist (one rung below a "real" accountant - for our Yankee overlords "accountant" means basically "certified public accountant" at minimum).
Oodles of job titles in our company, usually in the ranks associate, vanilla and senior. One of my favorites is "Director of Value Creation".
My title is Senior Business Analyst. Got bumped to that from Senior Actuarial Analyst after failing one too many exam.
Quote from: DGuller on April 06, 2010, 10:37:16 PM
In US, some companies inflate titles way more than others. I know one company where it seems like every second person is a Vice President of something. In my company, only the most senior of senior people ever get that title.
I just looked it up for my company. 0.00037% of the employees are vice presidents.
It's approximately 0.5% - 1% for my company, but my company is pretty small.
That would require having a job. :Embarrass:
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on April 06, 2010, 11:09:20 PM
That would require having a job. :Embarrass:
It's okay. I feel for you Teach.
Quote from: DGuller on April 06, 2010, 11:08:59 PM
It's approximately 0.5% - 1% for my company, but my company is pretty small.
As I work in industry, my company has huge numbers of blue-collar workers so that obviously skews the proportion.
I was a Business Analyst but then they decide to rename people at my level to Associate.
Things vary greatly within the HK government. Outsiders are usually confused to no end about our titles. To start off, there are different types of titles. Then, some humble sounding titles actually convey the opposite meaning, and vice versa.
Administrative Officer Staff Grade 'B' (AOSGB). What do you think about this title?
What about "Chief Executive Officer" (CEO)?
Admin. Officer, sounds very innocent. That's a 'B' grade, to boot. Actually, an AOSGB is well within the most senior 500 employees in the whole government establishment, which employs more than 160,000 people.
CEO is not the guy at the helm of the organization. "Executive Officer" just means he is one of the guys in charge of office furniture, personnel matters etc. "Chief" denotes the person's rank within the "Executive Officer" establishment. In this case, "Chief" means the third most senior rank within the EO grade, but that doesn't even qualify you as a directorate officer.
I did until I got laid off.
Quote from: Monoriu on April 06, 2010, 11:17:22 PM
Things vary greatly within the HK government. Outsiders are usually confused to no end about our titles. To start off, there are different types of titles. Then, some humble sounding titles actually convey the opposite meaning, and vice versa.
Administrative Officer Staff Grade 'B' (AOSGB). What do you think about this title?
What about "Chief Executive Officer" (CEO)?
Admin. Officer, sounds very innocent. That's a 'B' grade, to boot. Actually, an AOSGB is well within the most senior 500 employees in the whole government establishment, which employs more than 160,000 people.
CEO is not the guy at the helm of the organization. "Executive Officer" just means he is one of the guys in charge of office furniture, personnel matters etc. "Chief" denotes the person's rank within the "Executive Officer" establishment. In this case, "Chief" means the third most senior rank within the EO grade, but that doesn't even qualify you as a directorate officer.
Have you ever seen the movie Brazil?
Depends on the job.
But none of them are real fancy.
"Best Boy" makes it sound like you work for Grallon.
Thankfully that will never be my job title.
Gaffer? Key grip?
Nein and no
Quote from: Barrister on April 06, 2010, 10:42:10 PMCrown Counsel. :cool:
I like that title. All the official titles in Germany sounded better when we were still a "Reich", not a "Bund" (federation) even if those two terms are interchangable in German constitutional law.
A few nice examples:
Statistical Programming Scientist
VP, Strategic Biostatistics
Sr Pre-Analytical Tech Specialist
Quote from: katmai on April 07, 2010, 12:37:50 AM
Nein and no
Do you get any of the whimsical sounding titles?
2nd Assistant Camera
Camera Production Assistant
Driver/Location Scout
Bo-ring.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on April 07, 2010, 01:05:45 AM
Bo-ring.
hence why I said what I did in my first post in this thread, ya dumbass
A lot of folks in my department are unhappy with their titles. Their titles are like "system manager", which sounds like a help desk technician. So they got "functional" titles for dealing with the private sector. "System managers" become "managers", "senior system managers" become "senior managers" and so on.
My job title is the most general unprecise title ever. I am : TECHNICIAN. In all caps, for some reason.
attaché or legal advisor, so nothing really fancy
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 07, 2010, 06:28:18 AM
My job title is the most general unprecise title ever. I am : TECHNICIAN. In all caps, for some reason.
Heh, just like me, except the caps. :p If I feel like it, I can call myself "Project technician", in order to tell me apart from the Area technicians.
My title is quite straightforward, train driver. It makes sense.
My official current title is "Revenue Systems Analyst", but I constantly get called "system manager" or "system designer" for our applications, even by my boss when introducing me to people (once he said "acting implementation manager" too). I have a manager's cubicle (i.e. 3x as large as what the other 'official' analysts get), a Blackberry (only management gets those, too) and directly manage a testing consultant as well as indirectly manage a bunch of offshore devs. I think the weirdness with the title is due to the hiring and salary freeze which has been in place since 2007, TBH.
This is the first time since 2000 that I've had a title of less than "Manager" of something :blush:, but I get treated and generally paid as a manager, so I don't care that much. My current company is extremely stingy about titles, too, which I think is also a factor.
...actually, come to think of it, my last job title was "Account Executive", so I guess that's not technically a manager title, but my business cards said "Recruiting Manager" and I directly managed between 25-35 people, so again I think it was just formalities/HR inflexibility.
IT Buttler or IT Majordhomo.
G.
Supply Chain Manager in some contexts; Owner in others.
L.
Quote from: Liep on April 07, 2010, 06:39:32 AM
My title is quite straightforward, train driver. It makes sense.
No shit?
Quote from: Liep on April 07, 2010, 06:39:32 AM
My title is quite straightforward, train driver. It makes sense.
You drive trains? DSB, Arriva or S-Tog?
I sit at Sølvgade/Kalvebod as an external consultant.
As to titles, mine is manager in the classical big 4 hierachy setup. Consultant, sen. Consultant, Manager, Sen. manager, Director, partner.
V
Quote from: Valdemar on April 07, 2010, 07:30:58 AM
Quote from: Liep on April 07, 2010, 06:39:32 AM
My title is quite straightforward, train driver. It makes sense.
You drive trains? DSB, Arriva or S-Tog?
I sit at Sølvgade/Kalvebod as an external consultant.
V
The funny looking red ones. Only ones I know on Kalvebod are the traffic controllers, but they could use consulting. :p
Editor.
Not "fancy" but it's a neon sign in my heart.
My title is quite common in the Danish civil service but somewhat difficult to translate. Several translations are used according to the web:
Academic, Administrative Officer
Adminstrative Officer, MSc
Head of section (somewhat misleading)
In danish it's AC-fuldmægtig.
No... Damn government jobs.
Quote from: Caliga on April 07, 2010, 06:47:23 AM
a Blackberry (only management gets those, too)
For some reason, this makes me :lol:
"Unemployed" isn't much impressive as a job title. Neither, for that matter, is the threefold job title I had with CSD: "Communication Assistant(CA)," "Relay Agent," or "Operator." Explanation for that was that different states require different titles for the people working on their relay grids, so our computers would tell us which to use as each call came in. In fact, the closest I came to a "fancy title" was when I was working sales as a "Marketing and Sales Representative," which utterly failed as an ego booster.
My company only has three people with the title of Vice President. One of them is a co-owner of the company and another is the President's wife. :P
I am a Director, but I don't have a budget in the billions. The company isn't anywhere near big enough for that. It's in the single-digit millions for my department. There is no CIO, so I'm the department head.
Quote from: Liep on April 07, 2010, 07:41:11 AM
Quote from: Valdemar on April 07, 2010, 07:30:58 AM
Quote from: Liep on April 07, 2010, 06:39:32 AM
My title is quite straightforward, train driver. It makes sense.
You drive trains? DSB, Arriva or S-Tog?
I sit at Sølvgade/Kalvebod as an external consultant.
V
The funny looking red ones. Only ones I know on Kalvebod are the traffic controllers, but they could use consulting. :p
Well I travel with them every morning when I go to Sølvgade (twice a week) but it isn't the trafic controllers I help :)
V
I'm just an import agent. Nothing fancy at that. Before I had seafreight added to my job I was airfreight import agent. :ph34r:
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on April 07, 2010, 02:06:38 PM
Quote from: Caliga on April 07, 2010, 06:47:23 AM
a Blackberry (only management gets those, too)
For some reason, this makes me :lol:
Actually, I forgot that all of the implementation people have Blackberries, which makes sense since they're on the road up to 100% of the time.
Nope. I'm jsut a Plant Accountant.
Quote from: HVC on April 07, 2010, 04:48:27 PM
Nope. I'm jsut a Plant Accountant.
[edanger]you mean
EggPlant Accountant?[/edanger]
L.
Quote from: HVC on April 07, 2010, 04:48:27 PM
Nope. I'm jsut a Plant Accountant.
Egads, the accountants are multiplying. :(
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on April 07, 2010, 02:06:38 PM
Quote from: Caliga on April 07, 2010, 06:47:23 AM
a Blackberry (only management gets those, too)
For some reason, this makes me :lol:
This is the first time I've ever been given a Crackberry, and man, contrary to all the bitching from people who have them as electronic leashes, I'm having a blast with mine.
I was in training today, and cracking a guy up on the other side of the room with Full Metal Jacket IMs. SOUL BRUTHA TOO BEAU COUP
I love this thing.
They kept trying to make me get one in Boston and I kept refusing.... because I knew I'd become an addict. :Embarrass:
I sometimes read and even send email while driving. :ph34r:
Half of my time or more visiting languish is from iPhone
Quote from: Caliga on April 07, 2010, 05:18:58 PM
They kept trying to make me get one in Boston and I kept refusing.... because I knew I'd become an addict. :Embarrass:
I sometimes read and even send email while driving. :ph34r:
You got a death wish or something?
Cal gets the Slargos Award for 2010.
Chief Executive Specialist of Communication
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on April 07, 2010, 11:19:12 PM
Chief Executive Specialist of Communication
:lol: Yeah right.
Quote from: DGuller on April 06, 2010, 10:47:18 PM
My title is Senior Business Analyst. Got bumped to that from Senior Actuarial Analyst after failing one too many exam.
In your company is a senior actuarial analyist an associate of the Society of Actuaries, or do they give that title out before you're an associate?
At my last place of work there was a round of review of titles and promotions handed out and I arranged to have no title at all on my card. Within the organization I was just known by name. It was a nice counterpoint to some of the pointless bullshit titles that were handed out.
When I moved on to my current gig I tried to keep that, but some HR types insisted that titles were required, so now my card says "writer". Which is what I do. Not very fancy at all, but fancier than what I'd like.
My last credit was "written by", the one I gave up on leaving my last job was "written by" and I expect my next credit to be "written by". Not fancy sounding, but I like it.
Quote from: Jacob on April 07, 2010, 11:43:54 PM
Quote from: DGuller on April 06, 2010, 10:47:18 PM
My title is Senior Business Analyst. Got bumped to that from Senior Actuarial Analyst after failing one too many exam.
In your company is a senior actuarial analyist an associate of the Society of Actuaries, or do they give that title out before you're an associate?
No, usually not, and in general promotions are not linked with your exam progress, but it helps. The difference between "Actuarial" and "Business" is whether you're proceeding to the designation at an adequate pace. My progress has stalled, so I lost the "Actuarial" in my title (but thankfully nothing else other than some pride).
Quote from: DGuller on April 08, 2010, 12:15:53 AM
No, usually not, and in general promotions are not linked with your exam progress, but it helps. The difference between "Actuarial" and "Business" is whether you're proceeding to the designation at an adequate pace. My progress has stalled, so I lost the "Actuarial" in my title (but thankfully nothing else other than some pride).
Ah okay. Cool. How far along are you, if you don't mind me asking? And what specialization? Casualty? My wife is presently battling her way through her exams, doing pensions, so this is actually interesting to me.
Quote from: Jacob on April 08, 2010, 12:32:55 AM
Quote from: DGuller on April 08, 2010, 12:15:53 AM
No, usually not, and in general promotions are not linked with your exam progress, but it helps. The difference between "Actuarial" and "Business" is whether you're proceeding to the designation at an adequate pace. My progress has stalled, so I lost the "Actuarial" in my title (but thankfully nothing else other than some pride).
Ah okay. Cool. How far along are you, if you don't mind me asking? And what specialization? Casualty? My wife is presently battling her way through her exams, doing pensions, so this is actually interesting to me.
Yes, casualty, so I'm actually taking CAS exams, not SOA exams. I passed exams 1-6, in fact almost blew by them, and then got really stalled just one short of associate.
He's Italian so he can make that joke.
A friend of mine who got a teaching gig at the local university used to joke that, when he got his office, he'd put a title holder with "Great Khan of the Teaching Hordes", or something like that, over his table. :lol:
Quote from: DGuller on April 08, 2010, 12:47:47 AMYes, casualty, so I'm actually taking CAS exams, not SOA exams. I passed exams 1-6, in fact almost blew by them, and then got really stalled just one short of associate.
Yikes. You figure that's as far as you're going, or are you going to keep at it?
My wife is more just short of where you're at.
Quote from: Jacob on April 08, 2010, 11:34:45 AM
Yikes. You figure that's as far as you're going, or are you going to keep at it?
My wife is more just short of where you're at.
Yes, I'm definitely going to keep at it, lacking designation is very limiting to your career prospects down the line, although not so much at the point where I am. Such a bad run certainly destroys your motivation, though, and it can become a vicious circle.
How's your wife progressing? Smoothly or with setbacks?
My job title is kind of fancy: "Weapons Squad Leader".
It refers to the 4th squad in a line infantry platoon, the Weapons squad, which carries and dismounts the medium machine guns (M240B) assigned to the platoon. The light machine guns (SAW-Squad Automatic Weapons-M249) are assigned two per squad - one per fire team. The heavy machineguns, the M2 .50cal and Mk19 40mm automatic grenade launcher, are vehicle mounted and are never dismounted. There are a total of four heavies, 2 and 2, and they are assigned one per vehicle.
That's not fancy. And we know what a weapons squad is. Hell your field manual is on the internet.
Looking through the thread, I think I have the coolest title. :cool:
Although Liep could make an argument for it...
"Regional Vice president" or the more proper "Regional Manager"
However, the first is on my business cards. They want to use them interchangeably, I'll pick the most pretentious sounding one.
I wanted to call myself Magister Militum per Ohio. :(
Senior Software Engineer. Even I find it boring.
Quote from: Razgovory on April 12, 2010, 11:46:47 AM
That's not fancy. And we know what a weapons squad is. Hell your field manual is on the internet.
I hate you.
Erase that fucking shit from your signature. I never said that.
Quote from: Siege on April 12, 2010, 02:47:59 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on April 12, 2010, 11:46:47 AM
That's not fancy. And we know what a weapons squad is. Hell your field manual is on the internet.
I hate you.
Erase that fucking shit from your signature. I never said that.
But you did say that. In fact, I put the date on there so it could be easily referenced.
Also take a look at this! http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/policy/army/fm/3-21-11/c01.htm It's even got a little picture of you. Hope the Mahdi Army guys don't have internet access.
Actually, the words more important than my title are "Net Pay".
Quote from: DGuller on April 08, 2010, 11:44:12 AMYes, I'm definitely going to keep at it, lacking designation is very limiting to your career prospects down the line, although not so much at the point where I am. Such a bad run certainly destroys your motivation, though, and it can become a vicious circle.
Yeah, I can imagine.
QuoteHow's your wife progressing? Smoothly or with setbacks?
I think she failed one of the first ones, since then she's passed each one but it's been pretty nerve-wracking. No setbacks, other than that first one (I think it was exam 2), but I wouldn't call it "smoothly". There's certainly a lot of stress, and I know that get back a not-pass result would be a big blow.
We're thinking of having kids in the not-too-distant future, which will probably impact the whole studying thing as well.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 12, 2010, 04:43:02 PM
Actually, the words more important than my title are "Net Pay".
Hear hear!