http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100317/ap_on_bi_ge/us_wal_mart_racial_comment
QuoteWal-Mart Stores Inc. officials are reviewing security tapes to try to determine who used a southern New Jersey store's public-address system to tell "all black people" to leave.
Shortly before 7 p.m. Sunday at the Washington Township store, a male voice calmly announced: "Attention Wal-Mart customers: All black people leave the store now."
Witnesses say customers and store employees looked stunned. Management later apologized.
Company spokeswoman Ashley Hardie says the incident was "unacceptable." The retailer is looking to prevent it from happening in the future.
Washington Township police and the Gloucester County Prosecutor's Office also are investigating.
Walmart was just exercizing its state rights.
weird.
Probably just some jerk who thought that he was being funny when he was just being an asshole.
Hm. Sounds like a languishite to me. Who here is from Jersey? Don't Say Banana and who else?
dgul
Quote from: dps on March 17, 2010, 12:03:54 PM
Probably just some jerk who thought that he was being funny when he was just being an asshole.
Hm. Sounds like a languishite to me. Who here is from Jersey? Don't Say Banana and who else?
KainShinra.
Quote from: garbon on March 17, 2010, 11:46:29 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100317/ap_on_bi_ge/us_wal_mart_racial_comment
QuoteWashington Township police and the Gloucester County Prosecutor's Office also are investigating.
:huh: Let me guess: elected prosecutors in this jurisdiction.
:huh: Why do you make a fuss about this? This is something that must not go unpunished, not "kids having fun" as you seem to be arguing for.
Quote from: Jaron on March 17, 2010, 03:59:14 PM
:huh: Why do you make a fuss about this? This is something that must not go unpunished, not "kids having fun" as you seem to be arguing for.
:huh: Why do you insist, as you seem to be, that Big Brother has to get involved every time someone does something stupid? Beware of what you tolerate from your government, because if stupidity becomes a focus of government action, you will get the death sentence*
*followed by commutation to life** because of some "justice project"'s investigations
** followed by release on parole*** because California cannot afford to keep people in prison
*** followed by unsupervised parole because parole officers are too stupid and inefficient to keep up with their case loads, "Berkut Meter" or not.
I hardly think the local government counts as "Big Brother". You make it sound like the CIA put everyone who was in the Walmart under wiretapping.
Obviously an act like this would enrage the community black or white and as such, as the government exists to serve the people, it is their duty to investigate and punish whoever was responsible for this act.
And your little insults don't work on me, old man. You aren't that clever and my skin is pretty thick.
Quote from: Jaron on March 17, 2010, 04:36:31 PM
I hardly think the local government counts as "Big Brother". You make it sound like the CIA put everyone who was in the Walmart under wiretapping.
Strawman much?
QuoteObviously an act like this would enrage the community black or white and as such, as the government exists to serve the people, it is their duty to investigate and punish whoever was responsible for this act.
I don't care about "enrage the community" crap. The people can handle a lot more than the community can, and what needs to happen is for someone to lose their job. Their is no law against stupidity (for which, as I said, you should be grateful - if there were, your life would be so completely unchanged that you would not recognize it).
Quote from: grumbler on March 17, 2010, 04:49:44 PM
(for which, as I said, you should be grateful - if there were, your life would be so completely unchanged that you would not recognize it).
You are wrong about this bit.
Quote from: grumbler on March 17, 2010, 04:49:44 PM
I don't care about "enrage the community" crap. The people can handle a lot more than the community can, and what needs to happen is for someone to lose their job. Their is no law against stupidity (for which, as I said, you should be grateful - if there were, your life would be so completely unchanged that you would not recognize it).
Me no get that insult. :huh:
I think it was excellent. I plan to plagiarize it.
Quote from: Jaron on March 17, 2010, 04:36:31 PM
Obviously an act like this would enrage the community black or white and as such, as the government exists to serve the people, it is their duty to investigate and punish whoever was responsible for this act.
But what law could have possibly been broken for the county prosecutor's office to be involved?
Quote from: sbr on March 17, 2010, 06:01:22 PM
But what law could have possibly been broken for the county prosecutor's office to be involved?
Yeah, right? Federal or nothing.
Go to YouTube and search for vids about "Walmart intercom prank". This is hardly a new thing, and there are videos on there which show the codes used to turn the PA on via the phone.
This made it to Polish news :mellow:
Quote from: DGuller on March 17, 2010, 05:26:22 PM
Quote from: grumbler on March 17, 2010, 04:49:44 PM
I don't care about "enrage the community" crap. The people can handle a lot more than the community can, and what needs to happen is for someone to lose their job. Their is no law against stupidity (for which, as I said, you should be grateful - if there were, your life would be so completely unchanged that you would not recognize it).
Me no get that insult. :huh:
Its not an insult, and more than Jaron's posts are actual insults. These are posts that sorta look like insults, but when you break them down, they are gibberish.
Quote from: grumbler on March 17, 2010, 04:26:33 PM
*** followed by unsupervised parole because parole officers are too stupid and inefficient to keep up with their case loads, "Berkut Meter" or not.
:lmfao:
That gets updated, what, 2-3 times a year?
I'm not even sure what it means, to be honest. Does Strix update it when he "zings" Berkie?
Don't encourage grumbler to troll even more than he already does.
Quote from: Caliga on March 17, 2010, 07:48:25 PM
I'm not even sure what it means, to be honest. Does Strix update it when he "zings" Berkie?
I used to update the number of people I sent back to prison. Than added the Berkut Meter for the number who successfully completed parole. I basically forget to do it now.
Personally, I blame teachers. They need to suck it up and quadruple the size of their classes plus do a better job.
Why is it a Berkut meter? Did Berkut successfully complete parole?
Quote from: Strix on March 17, 2010, 08:25:47 PM
Quote from: Caliga on March 17, 2010, 07:48:25 PM
I'm not even sure what it means, to be honest. Does Strix update it when he "zings" Berkie?
I used to update the number of people I sent back to prison. Than added the Berkut Meter for the number who successfully completed parole. I basically forget to do it now.
Personally, I blame teachers. They need to suck it up and quadruple the size of their classes plus do a better job.
Fuck you asscookie <_<
This would be the Turnersville Walmart, which is right in Kain's and my backyard: about a 25-30 minute drive. Said Walmart has a reputation for having the douchiest managers and employees with the worst attitudes; in fact, the style of this particular prank makes me wonder if I might know the culprit (an extremely disgruntled employee of that Walmart).
Not so weird, those announcment mics are often out in the open and poorly defended.
Quote from: Caliga on March 17, 2010, 07:08:35 PM
Go to YouTube and search for vids about "Walmart intercom prank". This is hardly a new thing, and there are videos on there which show the codes used to turn the PA on via the phone.
Huh. Anybody really can use the intercoms at Walmart. The pranks I saw weren't that good though, no one can seem to do it without laughing.
Did the black people leave the store?
Quote from: Lettow77 on March 18, 2010, 01:28:02 AM
Did the black people leave the store?
And so was born the plot to hijack the Tennessee state emergency signal.
Quote from: Lettow77 on March 18, 2010, 01:28:02 AM
Did the black people leave the store?
Turnersville, New Jersey, so.... there were probably no black people in the store to begin with :lol:
LOL I saw news coverage of it. It's amazing how this prank gets blown out of proportion. :lol:
Quote from: Martinus on March 20, 2010, 02:35:02 AM
LOL I saw news coverage of it. It's amazing how this prank gets blown out of proportion. :lol:
If they had said "All gay people" you would have been frothing at the mouth, you racist piece of shit.
QuoteArrest Made in N.J. Walmart 'All Black People' Case
AP
A 16-year-old boy arrested in the case of a racial comment made over the public-address system at a Walmart store in southern New Jersey.
Police have arrested a 16-year-old boy in the case of a racial comment that was made over the public-address system at a Walmart store in southern New Jersey.
Police said Saturday the Atlantic County teenager was arrested Friday on charges of harassment and bias intimidation. They say he's been released to the custody of his parents.
Police and prosecutor's office spokesman Bernie Weisenfeld declined to comment Saturday.
A male voice came over the Walmart public-address system Sunday evening and calmly announced: "Attention, Walmart customers: All black people, leave the store now."
Although a manager quickly apologized for the remark over the intercom, many customers expressed their anger to store management.
Officials for Bentonville, Ark.-based Wal-Mart Stores Inc., said the announcement was "unacceptable." The company said in a statement Friday that it determined a customer may have been responsible for it; spokesman David Tovar declined further comment Saturday until after the news conference.
The company said it has already updated the store's intercom system to prevent a similar incident from happening again.
Authorities aren't releasing the boy's name because he's a juvenile, and they don't know whether he has an attorney.
It was the latest in a series of problems the retailer has had in its dealings with minorities and women.
There have been several past instances of black customers claiming they were treated unfairly at Walmart stores, and the company faced lawsuits alleging that women were passed over in favor of men for pay raises and promotions.
In February 2009, the retailer paid $17.5 million to settle a class action lawsuit alleging racial discrimination in its hiring of truck drivers.
And the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission sued the company in May 2009, claiming some Hispanic employees at a Sam's Club subsidiary in California were subjected to a hostile work environment. That suit alleges managers failed to stop repeated verbal harassment, including the use of derogatory words, against employees of Mexican descent.
However, the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People has said the company has worked hard in recent years to show it cares about diversity.
:nelson: Lock him up and throw away the key.
All non-Alaskan Mexicans, leave the forum now.
I can see a DA's career crashing now. Harassment? "Bias intimidation?" Good luck trying to get those charges past a jury!
Trespassing, or whatever, sure. Got the kid dead to rights. Anything more than that is not gonna look good a few weeks or months down the road.
How is the announcement racist? When Mossad warned Jews in the WTC that they shouldn't come to work that morning they were being antisemitic?
Quote from: The Brain on March 20, 2010, 08:37:40 PM
How is the announcement racist? When Mossad warned Jews in the WTC that they shouldn't come to work that morning they were being antisemitic?
:lol:
Quote from: The Brain on March 20, 2010, 08:37:40 PM
How is the announcement racist? When Mossad warned Jews in the WTC that they shouldn't come to work that morning they were being antisemitic?
:lol:
There is a criminal charge of bias intimidation? What is that?
Quote from: crazy canuck on March 20, 2010, 11:27:36 PM
There is a criminal charge of bias intimidation? What is that?
http://www.nj-statute-info.com/getStatute.php?statute_id=1576
Quote2C:16-1. Bias intimidation.
a. Bias Intimidation. A person is guilty of the crime of bias intimidation if he commits, attempts to commit, conspires with another to commit, or threatens the immediate commission of an offense specified in chapters 11 through 18 of Title 2C of the New Jersey Statutes; N.J.S.2C:33-4; N.J.S.2C:39-3; N.J.S.2C:39-4 or N.J.S.2C:39-5,
(1) with a purpose to intimidate an individual or group of individuals because of race, color, religion, gender, handicap, sexual orientation, or ethnicity; or
(2) knowing that the conduct constituting the offense would cause an individual or group of individuals to be intimidated because of race, color, religion, gender, handicap, sexual orientation, or ethnicity; or
(3) under circumstances that caused any victim of the underlying offense to be intimidated and the victim, considering the manner in which the offense was committed, reasonably believed either that (a) the offense was committed with a purpose to intimidate the victim or any person or entity in whose welfare the victim is interested because of race, color, religion, gender, handicap, sexual orientation, or ethnicity, or (b) the victim or the victim's property was selected to be the target of the offense because of the victim's race, color, religion, gender, handicap, sexual orientation, or ethnicity.
b. Permissive inference concerning selection of targeted person or property. Proof that the target of the underlying offense was selected by the defendant, or by another acting in concert with the defendant, because of race, color, religion, gender, handicap, sexual orientation, or ethnicity shall give rise to a permissive inference by the trier of fact that the defendant acted with a purpose to intimidate an individual or group of individuals because of race, color, religion, gender, handicap, sexual orientation, or ethnicity.
c. Grading. Bias intimidation is a crime of the fourth degree if the underlying offense referred to in subsection a. is a disorderly persons offense or petty disorderly persons offense. Otherwise, bias intimidation is a crime one degree higher than the most serious underlying crime referred to in subsection a., except that where the underlying crime is a crime of the first degree, bias intimidation is a first-degree crime and the defendant upon conviction thereof may, notwithstanding the provisions of paragraph (1) of subsection a. of N.J.S.2C:43-6, be sentenced to an ordinary term of imprisonment between 15 years and 30 years, with a presumptive term of 20 years
d. Gender exemption in sexual offense prosecutions. It shall not be a violation of subsection a. if the underlying criminal offense is a violation of chapter 14 of Title 2C of the New Jersey Statutes and the circumstance specified in paragraph (1), (2) or (3) of subsection a. of this section is based solely upon the gender of the victim.
e. Merger. Notwithstanding the provisions of N.J.S.2C:1-8 or any other provision of law, a conviction for bias intimidation shall not merge with a conviction of any of the underlying offenses referred to in subsection a. of this section, nor shall any conviction for such underlying offense merge with a conviction for bias intimidation. The court shall impose separate sentences upon a conviction for bias intimidation and a conviction of any underlying offense.
L.2001,c.443,s.1.
Quote from: The Brain on March 20, 2010, 08:37:40 PM
How is the announcement racist? When Mossad warned Jews in the WTC that they shouldn't come to work that morning they were being antisemitic?
:lol:
That's not funny. That's how you perpetuate a conspiracy theory.
Soon some jihadi website is going to link here as proof they were right all along.
Quote from: The Brain on March 20, 2010, 08:37:40 PM
How is the announcement racist? When Mossad warned Jews in the WTC that they shouldn't come to work that morning they were being antisemitic?
:D
Quote from: Siege on March 23, 2010, 05:28:06 AM
That's not funny. That's how you perpetuate a conspiracy theory.
Soon some jihadi website is going to link here as proof they were right all along.
All they need to do is to link to your posts to perpetuate a conspiracy theory that Jews are murderous insane bastards. :P
Quote from: crazy canuck on March 20, 2010, 11:27:36 PM
There is a criminal charge of bias intimidation? What is that?
As the statute indicates, it requires proving an underlying crime plus a purpose to intimidate a protected class. The underlying crime here apparent is criminal harassment, which under NJ law is defined:
Quote. . .[A] person commits a petty disorderly persons offense if, with purpose to harass another, he:
a.Makes, or causes to be made, a communication or communications anonymously or at extremely inconvenient hours, or in offensively coarse language, or any other manner likely to cause annoyance or alarm; . . . [plus others not applicable].
This probably qualifies as a communication likely to cause annoyance or alarm, although one can question whether this formulation can survive a First Amendment challenge. The next hurdle is proving that the purpose of the communication was to "intimidate" as opposed to merely annoy or cause offense.
This probably doesn't satisfy the definition of criminal trespass un NJ either.
The charge is a stretch but if the DA is just looking for some decent publicity and then a plea to straight misdemeanor harassment, he is probably going to get it.
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on March 23, 2010, 09:07:50 AM
The charge is a stretch but if the DA is just looking for some decent publicity and then a plea to straight misdemeanor harassment, he is probably going to get it.
:yes:
He also may have done it to stop the NAACP from bugging the shit out of him, which they seem to be doing based on a news video clip I saw about the incident.
Wow, a communication likely to cause annoyance. 99% of languish has violated this law.
Quote from: crazy canuck on March 23, 2010, 10:48:54 AM
Wow, a communication likely to cause annoyance. 99% of languish has violated this law.
Disagree.
I think the percentage is higher than that.
I haven't. :goodboy:
Quote from: grumbler on March 20, 2010, 06:31:36 PM
I can see a DA's career crashing now. Harassment? "Bias intimidation?" Good luck trying to get those charges past a jury!
Trespassing, or whatever, sure. Got the kid dead to rights. Anything more than that is not gonna look good a few weeks or months down the road.
Uh-uh. Gloucester County? Glassboro's (and to an extent, Williamstown) such a dazzling urbanite heaven that the nickname "G-boro's" stuck. That jury's not gonna want to give a snotty white kid any leeway.
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on March 23, 2010, 09:07:50 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on March 20, 2010, 11:27:36 PM
There is a criminal charge of bias intimidation? What is that?
As the statute indicates, it requires proving an underlying crime plus a purpose to intimidate a protected class. The underlying crime here apparent is criminal harassment, which under NJ law is defined:
Quote. . .[A] person commits a petty disorderly persons offense if, with purpose to harass another, he:
a.Makes, or causes to be made, a communication or communications anonymously or at extremely inconvenient hours, or in offensively coarse language, or any other manner likely to cause annoyance or alarm; . . . [plus others not applicable].
This probably qualifies as a communication likely to cause annoyance or alarm, although one can question whether this formulation can survive a First Amendment challenge. The next hurdle is proving that the purpose of the communication was to "intimidate" as opposed to merely annoy or cause offense.
This probably doesn't satisfy the definition of criminal trespass un NJ either.
The charge is a stretch but if the DA is just looking for some decent publicity and then a plea to straight misdemeanor harassment, he is probably going to get it.
They're probably playing to the crowd. We've got a couple of dazzling urbanite hubs around here (Glassboro, Sicklerville, Newark), and one of those three is likely to be a large source for the jury pool.
Quote from: crazy canuck on March 23, 2010, 10:48:54 AM
Wow, a communication likely to cause annoyance. 99% of languish has violated this law.
aka. "Mart", "Marti", "Footjob", "Feltchmaster"
Quote from: grumbler on March 23, 2010, 12:07:59 PM
I think the percentage is higher than that.
You're forgetting the deaf/mute lurker.
Quote from: DontSayBanana on March 23, 2010, 12:36:07 PM
They're probably playing to the crowd. We've got a couple of dazzling urbanite hubs around here (Glassboro, Sicklerville, Newark), and one of those three is likely to be a large source for the jury pool.
Newark? :huh:
Also, I didn't realize Glassboro was a bluegum haven. I though it was all Joiseytrash. :blush:
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on March 23, 2010, 06:34:26 PM
Quote from: grumbler on March 23, 2010, 12:07:59 PM
I think the percentage is higher than that.
You're forgetting the deaf/mute lurker.
What? I never cause annoyance!