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So, what do you think of the proposed Disney - Marvel merger?  Stan Lee is optimistic, but financial analysts i've read don't seem too thrilled and think it's bad idea, marketing wise (Hulk, Thor and Spiderman on ice instead of the usual cast ;) ).

I think it's going to be good if Marvel remains a seperate entity within Disney.  IIRC, Pixar is a seperate studio owned by Disney, is it not?  So I don't really see what the problem is.

Of course, if we start seeing comics like "The Incredible Hulk VS Mickey Mouse", I might change my mind.  But I have some doubts that we'll see stuff like that ;)


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I hope Disney rapes marvel.

RAPED! :weep:

I'm going to be contrarian and say this merger is the greatest since Barnum & Bailey joined forces.

I've never gotten the assosiation of Marvel/DC with childhood (thats one REALLY rich kid...) but still its pretty bad,

I doubt Marvel will suffer creatively of course and my objections are purely objections to Disney the big evil corporation.

Quote from: Tyr on September 01, 2009, 03:30:02 PM
I've never gotten the assosiation of Marvel/DC with childhood (thats one REALLY rich kid...) but still its pretty bad,

:huh:

Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 01, 2009, 03:36:57 PM

Quote from: Tyr on September 01, 2009, 03:30:02 PM
I've never gotten the assosiation of Marvel/DC with childhood (thats one REALLY rich kid...) but still its pretty bad,

:huh:

Maybe he's confused Marvel with Harvey Comics:

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Bow tie with shorts. I like his style.  :cool:

Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 01, 2009, 03:36:57 PM

Quote from: Tyr on September 01, 2009, 03:30:02 PM
I've never gotten the assosiation of Marvel/DC with childhood (thats one REALLY rich kid...) but still its pretty bad,

:huh:

Those comics are damned expensive.
Even for me these days let alone a kid.

Quote from: Tyr on September 01, 2009, 03:44:48 PM

Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 01, 2009, 03:36:57 PM

Quote from: Tyr on September 01, 2009, 03:30:02 PM
I've never gotten the assosiation of Marvel/DC with childhood (thats one REALLY rich kid...) but still its pretty bad,

:huh:

Those comics are damned expensive.
Even for me these days let alone a kid.

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Great...now there's going to be lots of homemade Disney/Marvel-crossover porn.

Quote from: Tonitrus on September 01, 2009, 03:49:08 PM
Great...now there's going to be lots of homemade Disney/Marvel-crossover porn.

I want to see Jean Gray fuck Daisy Duck with a strap-on.

Quote from: Tyr on September 01, 2009, 03:44:48 PM

Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 01, 2009, 03:36:57 PM

Quote from: Tyr on September 01, 2009, 03:30:02 PM
I've never gotten the assosiation of Marvel/DC with childhood (thats one REALLY rich kid...) but still its pretty bad,

:huh:

Those comics are damned expensive.
Even for me these days let alone a kid.

There were a lot of marvel cartoons back on the day.

Quote from: Tonitrus on September 01, 2009, 03:49:08 PM
Great...now there's going to be lots of homemade Disney/Marvel-crossover porn.

Mickey felt a momentary pang of guilt as he thought about Minnie, but it vanished as She Hulk removed her uniform revealing her heaving green breasts.  "Take me.  Take me now," she groaned as she reached for the enormous yellow buttons of his shorts.

Quote from: Savonarola on September 01, 2009, 03:54:33 PM

Quote from: Tonitrus on September 01, 2009, 03:49:08 PM
Great...now there's going to be lots of homemade Disney/Marvel-crossover porn.

Mickey felt a momentary pang of guilt as he thought about Minnie, but it vanished as She Hulk removed her uniform revealing her heaving green breasts.  "Take me.  Take me now," she groaned as she reached for the enormous yellow buttons of his shorts.

:lol:That's so, so, so, so wrong, almost worse than an Anne Frank slash.  :P

And regarding the Disney-Marvel thingie, I guess that they'll run separately, and won't afect the "artistic" part. It's mostly about reaping the big bucks from the movies, anyway.

A stupid American genre gets a crossover with another stupid American genre.

:yawn:

Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 01, 2009, 03:51:16 PM
a lot of marvel cartoons back on the day.

True, I did like the xmen cartoon.
Still, it wasn't THAT huge a deal.
And apart from that I can recall nought except the old spiderman one from the 70s.

Quote from: Martinus on September 01, 2009, 04:56:03 PM
A stupid American genre gets a crossover with another stupid American genre.

:yawn:

I know Disney has been quite successful, but it's hardly a genre. Or are you implying that children's movies is an American genre?

Quote from: Peter Wiggin on September 01, 2009, 05:03:58 PM

Quote from: Martinus on September 01, 2009, 04:56:03 PM
A stupid American genre gets a crossover with another stupid American genre.

:yawn:

I know Disney has been quite successful, but it's hardly a genre. Or are you implying that children's movies is an American genre?

Well "genre" isn't perhaps the best word but they have a quite distinct style.

Quote from: Martinus on September 01, 2009, 04:56:03 PM
A stupid American genre gets a crossover with another stupid American genre.

:yawn:

What popular Polish genres are there again?

Quote from: Tyr on September 01, 2009, 04:59:39 PM
True, I did like the xmen cartoon.
Still, it wasn't THAT huge a deal.
And apart from that I can recall nought except the old spiderman one from the 70s.

As a child I watched X-Men, Spiderman, Fantastic Four and Iron Man.

Btw, here's a list:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_television_series_based_on_Marvel_Comics

Quote* The Marvel Super Heroes (1966)
    * Fantastic Four (1967 – 1970)
    * Spider-Man (1967 – 1970)
    * Fantastic Four (1978)
    * Spider-Woman (1979 – 1980)
    * Fred and Barney Meet the Thing (1979)
    * Spider-Man (1981 - 1982)
    * Spider-Man and His Amazing Friends (1981 – 1983)
    * The Incredible Hulk (1982)
    * X-Men: Pryde of the X-Men (1989, only pilot episode)
    * Solarman (1989, only pilot episode)
    * The Marvel animated universe (1992 - 2000)
          o X-Men (1992 – 1997)
          o Iron Man (1994 – 1996)
          o Fantastic Four (1994 – 1996)
          o Spider-Man (1994 – 1998)
          o The Incredible Hulk (1996 – 1997)
          o Spider-Man Unlimited (1999 - 2000, continuation of Spider-Man)
          o The Avengers: United They Stand (1999 - 2000)
    * Silver Surfer (1998)
    * X-Men: Evolution (2000 – 2003)
    * Spider-Man: The New Animated Series (2003)

Quote from: Tonitrus on September 01, 2009, 05:12:47 PM

Quote from: Martinus on September 01, 2009, 04:56:03 PM
A stupid American genre gets a crossover with another stupid American genre.

:yawn:

What popular Polish genres are there again?

Being divided by your neighbors
killing Jews
Being killed by Germans and Russians
Concentration Camps
Collaborating

Quote from: Tonitrus on September 01, 2009, 05:12:47 PM

Quote from: Martinus on September 01, 2009, 04:56:03 PM
A stupid American genre gets a crossover with another stupid American genre.

:yawn:

What popular Polish genres are there again?

Conquered, ignorant, poor, and charge the tanks with lances.

I wonder how bad this will screw over Universal Theme Parks?!  :lmfao:

Quote from: Tyr on September 01, 2009, 03:44:48 PM

Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 01, 2009, 03:36:57 PM

Quote from: Tyr on September 01, 2009, 03:30:02 PM
I've never gotten the assosiation of Marvel/DC with childhood (thats one REALLY rich kid...) but still its pretty bad,

:huh:

Those comics are damned expensive.
Even for me these days let alone a kid.

Comics used to be pretty cheap.  Then again, I suppose your family chose to take sides with Moscow against the UK, so your childhood was probably pretty poor.

None of the above.  It's not so much that my childhood is raped, it's just that Marvel's rich history is going to take a beating, even worse than it has been in recent years.

Quote from: Neil on September 01, 2009, 06:30:41 PM
None of the above.  It's not so much that my childhood is raped, it's just that Marvel's rich history is going to take a beating, even worse than it has been in recent years.

:yes: We call it canon, and they call it being written into a corner. They call it taking a new direction, and we call it a filthy reboot.

I think is great.
Hannah Montana would look awesome in an spiderman movie.
Also, I hope she and Alex Russo join the Avengers.

:bleeding:

Quote from: Siege on September 01, 2009, 06:50:39 PM
I think is great.
Hannah Montana would look awesome in an spiderman movie.

Don't count on it.  Seeing as how she is happily building up her slut image, I wouldn't be surprised if Disney boots her soon.

Quote from: Siege on September 01, 2009, 06:50:39 PM
I think is great.
Hannah Montana would look awesome in an spiderman movie.
Also, I hope she and Alex Russo join the Avengers.

Why are you so gay?

Quote from: Neil on September 01, 2009, 07:00:40 PM
Why are you so gay?

I'd be less worried if he was. That's some fucked-up obsession with the teenage girls of Disney he's got going there. Downright grallonesque. :ph34r:

Quote from: DontSayBanana on September 01, 2009, 06:41:43 PM

Quote from: Neil on September 01, 2009, 06:30:41 PM
None of the above.  It's not so much that my childhood is raped, it's just that Marvel's rich history is going to take a beating, even worse than it has been in recent years.

:yes: We call it canon, and they call it being written into a corner. They call it taking a new direction, and we call it a filthy reboot.

Except these days, reboots aren't about taking anything in a new direction.  They're about selling comics about Dark Phoenix, Alien Symbiote Costume or Fatal Attractions all over again.  A reboot isn't about originality, but rather the lack thereof.

Quote from: Neil on September 01, 2009, 07:08:56 PM
Except these days, reboots aren't about taking anything in a new direction.  They're about selling comics about Dark Phoenix, Alien Symbiote Costume or Fatal Attractions all over again.  A reboot isn't about originality, but rather the lack thereof.

I was only talking about what we're calling it, with no preference for which I saw as true (sucky reboots, BTW); if I hear about another damned Jean Grey arc, though, I'm going to start burning effigies of Quesada. :angry:

Quote from: DontSayBanana on September 01, 2009, 07:02:05 PM

Quote from: Neil on September 01, 2009, 07:00:40 PM
Why are you so gay?

I'd be less worried if he was. That's some fucked-up obsession with the teenage girls of Disney he's got going there. Downright grallonesque. :ph34r:

He must be.  We're talking comics and other man stuff, and he's talking about a TV show for little girls.  That's exactly the way homos behave.

Quote from: Neil on September 01, 2009, 07:14:26 PM
He must be.  We're talking comics and other man stuff, and he's talking about a TV show for little girls.  That's exactly the way homos behave.

Meh. That must be why he's reminding me so much of G. lately. <_<

Quote from: DontSayBanana on September 01, 2009, 07:12:59 PM

Quote from: Neil on September 01, 2009, 07:08:56 PM
Except these days, reboots aren't about taking anything in a new direction.  They're about selling comics about Dark Phoenix, Alien Symbiote Costume or Fatal Attractions all over again.  A reboot isn't about originality, but rather the lack thereof.

I was only talking about what we're calling it, with no preference for which I saw as true (sucky reboots, BTW); if I hear about another damned Jean Grey arc, though, I'm going to start burning effigies of Quesada. :angry:

I always liked Jean Grey.  The original X-Factor team was awesome.  They need to either bring her back for good or kill her for good.  Preferably bring her back, and then use editorial authority to prevent anyone from killing her again.  That way, the cycle can be broken.

Quote from: Siege on September 01, 2009, 06:50:39 PM
I think is great.
Hannah Montana would look awesome in an spiderman movie.
Also, I hope she and Alex Russo join the Avengers.

Sure. Instead of the red suit, Spidey can just put a wig on and voila! nobody recognizes him.

Quote from: Neil on September 01, 2009, 07:17:40 PM
I always liked Jean Grey.  The original X-Factor team was awesome.  They need to either bring her back for good or kill her for good.  Preferably bring her back, and then use editorial authority to prevent anyone from killing her again.  That way, the cycle can be broken.

I liked her, but the character has been done to death... seven times, in fact (eight?). I'm all for the cycle being broken, but I'm kinda hoping there's already editorial authority in place to keep anyone from touching her and making the characterization more of a train-wreck than it already is.

BTW:  I just read Ultimatum, and I have to say it's the stupidest thing ever.  Jeph Loeb should be doubly executed:  Once for his stupid name, and again for the worst example of attempting to be shocking I've ever seen.  I mean, the Ultimate Universe wasn't perfect, but did it really deserve to be raped and murdered?

Quote from: DontSayBanana on September 01, 2009, 07:22:12 PM

Quote from: Neil on September 01, 2009, 07:17:40 PM
I always liked Jean Grey.  The original X-Factor team was awesome.  They need to either bring her back for good or kill her for good.  Preferably bring her back, and then use editorial authority to prevent anyone from killing her again.  That way, the cycle can be broken.

I liked her, but the character has been done to death... seven times, in fact (eight?). I'm all for the cycle being broken, but I'm kinda hoping there's already editorial authority in place to keep anyone from touching her and making the characterization more of a train-wreck than it already is.

I have my doubts.  She's one of the original X-men, and is thus marquee.  There's no way they'll keep her on the shelf.  That'd be like DC not bringing back Bruce Wayne and letting Dick Grayson be Batman forevermore.

Quote from: Neil on September 01, 2009, 07:25:19 PM
I have my doubts.  She's one of the original X-men, and is thus marquee.  There's no way they'll keep her on the shelf.  That'd be like DC not bringing back Bruce Wayne and letting Dick Grayson be Batman forevermore.

Bad comparison. I'm convinced that they will bring back Wayne, but in an alternate title running concurrently. My guess is that they picked Grayson to take on the mantle because he's about the only mainstream DC character with both enough longevity to stay in the role and flexibility to keep from mucking things up in his own titles.

Quote from: DontSayBanana on September 01, 2009, 07:29:07 PM

Quote from: Neil on September 01, 2009, 07:25:19 PM
I have my doubts.  She's one of the original X-men, and is thus marquee.  There's no way they'll keep her on the shelf.  That'd be like DC not bringing back Bruce Wayne and letting Dick Grayson be Batman forevermore.

Bad comparison. I'm convinced that they will bring back Wayne, but in an alternate title running concurrently. My guess is that they picked Grayson to take on the mantle because he's about the only mainstream DC character with both enough longevity to stay in the role and flexibility to keep from mucking things up in his own titles.

While they might do that in the short term, there is absolutely no chance that Bruce Wayne won't take over the Batman mantle down the road, just as there is no chance that the new, annoying Robin won't fall into a vat of acid or something.

Quote from: Strix on September 01, 2009, 06:09:41 PM
I wonder how bad this will screw over Universal Theme Parks?!  :lmfao:

Probably not very.  Most major companies who've invested money in Marvel IP will have contracts that protect their interests for a number of years out.

Quote from: Jacob on September 01, 2009, 07:46:28 PM

Quote from: Strix on September 01, 2009, 06:09:41 PM
I wonder how bad this will screw over Universal Theme Parks?!  :lmfao:

Probably not very.  Most major companies who've invested money in Marvel IP will have contracts that protect their interests for a number of years out.

And then in five or ten years time, they'll rename the Incredible Hulk roller coast the Dora The Explorer roller coaster, or maybe Kung Fu Panda roller coaster, or maybe some franchise we've never even heard of.

You guys are fucking nerds!

How the hell do you know so much about friggin comics?
COMICS!!!!1111

Dude, I used to beat the shit out of kids like you back in school.

Not really. I took several nerds under my wing. I fucked with them, verbally, but my sefaradi education placed the taboo on me of fighting the weak. I always had compasion for kids with no idea what life was for.

Girls and War.

One girl, many wars.

To put it in terms that you guys can understand, I'll repeat the words that the character Hector says in that 2005 Troy movie:

"All my life I've lived by a code and the code is simple: honor your G-d, love your woman, and defend your country!"

Quote from: Neil on September 01, 2009, 07:50:08 PM

Quote from: Jacob on September 01, 2009, 07:46:28 PM

Quote from: Strix on September 01, 2009, 06:09:41 PM
I wonder how bad this will screw over Universal Theme Parks?!  :lmfao:

Probably not very.  Most major companies who've invested money in Marvel IP will have contracts that protect their interests for a number of years out.

And then in five or ten years time, they'll rename the Incredible Hulk roller coast the Dora The Explorer roller coaster, or maybe Kung Fu Panda roller coaster, or maybe some franchise we've never even heard of.

Kung Fu Panda coaster would be cool.

BTW, I think Mickey Mouse was smart in this.

Quote from: Siege on September 01, 2009, 08:34:18 PM
You guys are fucking nerds!

How the hell do you know so much about friggin comics?
COMICS!!!!1111

Dude, I used to beat the shit out of kids like you back in school.

Not really. I took several nerds under my wing. I fucked with them, verbally, but my sefaradi education placed the taboo on me of fighting the weak. I always had compasion for kids with no idea what life was for.

Girls and War.

One girl, many wars.

To put it in terms that you guys can understand, I'll repeat the words that the character Hector says in that 2005 Troy movie:

"All my life I've lived by a code and the code is simple: honor your G-d, love your woman, and defend your country!"

Guess what Siege?  We won.  We rule the world, and people like you are slaves.

Quote from: Neil on September 01, 2009, 08:47:46 PM

Quote from: Siege on September 01, 2009, 08:34:18 PM
You guys are fucking nerds!

How the hell do you know so much about friggin comics?
COMICS!!!!1111

Dude, I used to beat the shit out of kids like you back in school.

Not really. I took several nerds under my wing. I fucked with them, verbally, but my sefaradi education placed the taboo on me of fighting the weak. I always had compasion for kids with no idea what life was for.

Girls and War.

One girl, many wars.

To put it in terms that you guys can understand, I'll repeat the words that the character Hector says in that 2005 Troy movie:

"All my life I've lived by a code and the code is simple: honor your G-d, love your woman, and defend your country!"

Guess what Siege?  We won.  We rule the world, and people like you are slaves.

:lol:

That's where being merciful gets you.

Quote from: Neil on September 01, 2009, 08:47:46 PM

Quote from: Siege on September 01, 2009, 08:34:18 PM
You guys are fucking nerds!

How the hell do you know so much about friggin comics?
COMICS!!!!1111

Dude, I used to beat the shit out of kids like you back in school.

Not really. I took several nerds under my wing. I fucked with them, verbally, but my sefaradi education placed the taboo on me of fighting the weak. I always had compasion for kids with no idea what life was for.

Girls and War.

One girl, many wars.

To put it in terms that you guys can understand, I'll repeat the words that the character Hector says in that 2005 Troy movie:

"All my life I've lived by a code and the code is simple: honor your G-d, love your woman, and defend your country!"

Guess what Siege?  We won.  We rule the world, and people like you are slaves.

You are probably right. Regretably, social evolution, modern capitalism, and technology have allowed B-males to rule over the Alpha-males.

Quote from: Jaron on September 01, 2009, 08:51:00 PM

Quote from: Neil on September 01, 2009, 08:47:46 PM

Quote from: Siege on September 01, 2009, 08:34:18 PM
You guys are fucking nerds!

How the hell do you know so much about friggin comics?
COMICS!!!!1111

Dude, I used to beat the shit out of kids like you back in school.

Not really. I took several nerds under my wing. I fucked with them, verbally, but my sefaradi education placed the taboo on me of fighting the weak. I always had compasion for kids with no idea what life was for.

Girls and War.

One girl, many wars.

To put it in terms that you guys can understand, I'll repeat the words that the character Hector says in that 2005 Troy movie:

"All my life I've lived by a code and the code is simple: honor your G-d, love your woman, and defend your country!"

Guess what Siege?  We won.  We rule the world, and people like you are slaves.

:lol:

That's where being merciful gets you.

Indeed.

Quote from: Siege on September 01, 2009, 08:51:22 PM
You are probably right. Regretably, social evolution, modern capitalism, and technology have allowed B-males to rule over the Alpha-males.

This is, of course, incorrect.  The nature of the alpha male has changed.  The thuggish characteristics which were important in pre-civilized societies are no longer important.

In short, the nerds are now the alpha males.

Quote from: Neil on September 01, 2009, 09:05:16 PM

Quote from: Siege on September 01, 2009, 08:51:22 PM
You are probably right. Regretably, social evolution, modern capitalism, and technology have allowed B-males to rule over the Alpha-males.

This is, of course, incorrect.  The nature of the alpha male has changed.  The thuggish characteristics which were important in pre-civilized societies are no longer important.

In short, the nerds are now the alpha males.

I don't agree with that. Alpha males are by definition the males that rule over other males.

When I'm on the battlefield, I own the enemy males, I kill them, I capture them, I occupy their houses, I own their women and children. It is only the laws of the B males from my own tribe that stop me from taking what is rightfully mine, earnt by the edge of my sword.

That's reason 11th why I hate B males.

Quote from: Siege on September 01, 2009, 09:18:10 PM

Quote from: Neil on September 01, 2009, 09:05:16 PM

Quote from: Siege on September 01, 2009, 08:51:22 PM
You are probably right. Regretably, social evolution, modern capitalism, and technology have allowed B-males to rule over the Alpha-males.

This is, of course, incorrect.  The nature of the alpha male has changed.  The thuggish characteristics which were important in pre-civilized societies are no longer important.

In short, the nerds are now the alpha males.

I don't agree with that. Alpha males are by definition the males that rule over other males.

When I'm on the battlefield, I own the enemy males, I kill them, I capture them, I occupy their houses, I own their women and children. It is only the laws of the B males from my own tribe that stop me from taking what is rightfully mine, earnt by the edge of my sword.

That's reason 11th why I hate B males.

And since nerds rule over the other males, they are the alpha males.

Besides, as an infantryman, you're obsolete anyways.

It's very much about Iconic Imagery being owned forever by Disney, someday they'll buy Coke, Pepsi, and DC. Superman & Spidey will greet you with Mickey & Goofy as you enter the Disney Biosphere formerly known as California.

Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on September 01, 2009, 09:41:52 PM
It's very much about Iconic Imagery being owned forever by Disney, someday they'll buy Coke, Pepsi, and DC. Superman & Spidey will greet you with Mickey & Goofy as you enter the Disney Biosphere formerly known as California.

Time-Warner is unlikely to give up the rights to the most iconic superheros there are.

Quote from: Siege on September 01, 2009, 09:18:10 PMI don't agree with that. Alpha males are by definition the males that rule over other males.

When I'm on the battlefield, I own the enemy males, I kill them, I capture them, I occupy their houses, I own their women and children. It is only the laws of the B males from my own tribe that stop me from taking what is rightfully mine, earnt by the edge of my sword.

That's reason 11th why I hate B males.

The only reason you prevail over what you call "B males" is because you have technology and superior logistics on your side.  Your so called "alpha" status would disintigrate when subjected to a well placed missile, artillery barrage or when your supply lines are cut.  You owe your petty personal victories to the nerds who perfected your tactics, your tools and who bring the support when you're in over your head.

In short, the only difference between you and your opponents is that you have better nerds on your side.  If you didn't, it be your woman, your house and life that'd be owned by your foes.

Quote from: Siege on September 01, 2009, 09:18:10 PM
I don't agree with that. Alpha males are by definition the males that rule over other males.

When I'm on the battlefield, I own the enemy males, I kill them, I capture them, I occupy their houses, I own their women and children. It is only the laws of the B males from my own tribe that stop me from taking what is rightfully mine, earnt by the edge of my sword.

That's reason 11th why I hate B males.

Hello, inferiority complex. Don't ever make the mistake of calling me a beta. You need brains and brawn to be an alpha- you ain't got one, and you're dreaming you've got the other. And that's why you're a fucking idiot in my book. I don't just respect some half-brained halfbreed with a killing fetish.

Alpha children wear grey. They work much harder than we do, because they are so clever. I'm very glad I'm a Beta, because I don't work so hard.

Quote from: Jacob on September 01, 2009, 10:58:15 PM

Quote from: Siege on September 01, 2009, 09:18:10 PMI don't agree with that. Alpha males are by definition the males that rule over other males.

When I'm on the battlefield, I own the enemy males, I kill them, I capture them, I occupy their houses, I own their women and children. It is only the laws of the B males from my own tribe that stop me from taking what is rightfully mine, earnt by the edge of my sword.

That's reason 11th why I hate B males.

The only reason you prevail over what you call "B males" is because you have technology and superior logistics on your side.  Your so called "alpha" status would disintigrate when subjected to a well placed missile, artillery barrage or when your supply lines are cut.  You owe your petty personal victories to the nerds who perfected your tactics, your tools and who bring the support when you're in over your head.

In short, the only difference between you and your opponents is that you have better nerds on your side.  If you didn't, it be your woman, your house and life that'd be owned by your foes.

Jacob, you speak words of wisdom.
You have never spoken to me like this. ( assuming you are the same Jacob from old languish)

While I agree in general with your post, I disagree with your perception of alpha male-nist.

An Alpha-male rules regardless of the local balance of force.
In the US Army, an Alpha male is an NCO. He rules despite what the OIC (officer in charge) or CO (commanding officer) might think. An Alpha Male is the craziest and meaniest mothefucker in town. He owns the battlefield not because of how loud he yells, but because he is the FIRST into the enemy fire. He walks through fire. He wins always, from the moment he enters the fray. He is death upon his enemies. He is fearless. He is an immortal, wheather he dies accomplishing his mission or not. And you have to serve in the infantry to understand what I mean.

Yes, we have technology and superior logistics on our side. Yes, we have the better nerds on our side. But what give us victory is our willingness to fuckin DIE, before losing one of our boys in battle. Something you would never understand, because for nerds war is something played on a computer screen.

Before I go, I shall meantion your beloved "tactics".
Tactics, it is all designed by us, the rank and file US soldier,
We have a web system here in the US Army for us NCOs to share our personal experiences in war. We share what works and what doesn't. And it gets published and e-mailed to us, so we KNOW what's going on the battlefield, and what works and what doesn't.

We are the most flexible force that have ever existed in history.

Quote from: Siege on September 01, 2009, 11:56:29 PM
But what give us victory is our willingness to fuckin DIE, before losing one of our boys in battle.

And so YOU die. In droves. And that makes you a pathetic pile of human materiel, ineligible to be an alpha, because you can only follow a dead man to one place.

Now please, please shut the hell up, stop spamming the rest of us with your macho crap, and go suck your thumb on your own time, because we're not here to be your own personal security blanket.

Quote from: DontSayBanana on September 01, 2009, 11:42:50 PM
Hello, inferiority complex. Don't ever make the mistake of calling me a beta. You need brains and brawn to be an alpha- you ain't got one, and you're dreaming you've got the other. And that's why you're a fucking idiot in my book. I don't just respect some half-brained halfbreed with a killing fetish.

Halfbreed? I am SEFARADI from the four korners.
I am the purest heir to the olive oil.
Ok, maybe not. I am the 8th son of a 6th son.
Still, closer than you are ever going to be.
Closer than most people in humankind are ever going to be.

And besides, I don't care about the throne.
Only the guy you know as the Messiah is going to sit there.
And I am definitively not that guy, because that guy knows who he is from birth.
I am barely an instrument.
An instrument against Islam.

And so I shall live and DIE!!!!!

Quote from: DontSayBanana on September 02, 2009, 12:03:58 AM

Quote from: Siege on September 01, 2009, 11:56:29 PM
But what give us victory is our willingness to fuckin DIE, before losing one of our boys in battle.

And so YOU die. In droves. And that makes you a pathetic pile of human materiel, ineligible to be an alpha, because you can only follow a dead man to one place.

Now please, please shut the hell up, stop spamming the rest of us with your macho crap, and go suck your thumb on your own time, because we're not here to be your own personal security blanket.

Only b males call alpha males macho crap. Envy have a way to corrode peoples' souls.

Feel the blood bursting through your veins. All b males have the oportunity, maybe even the power, to become A males.
Feel the call. It is war and real power.
Only two roads in front of you.
Make your choice.

Quote from: DontSayBanana on September 01, 2009, 11:42:50 PM
Hello, inferiority complex. Don't ever make the mistake of calling me a beta. You need brains and brawn to be an alpha- you ain't got one, and you're dreaming you've got the other. And that's why you're a fucking idiot in my book. I don't just respect some half-brained halfbreed with a killing fetish.

:lmfao:

You're actually taking Siege seriously enough to take offense.

Quote from: Neil on September 01, 2009, 07:14:26 PM

Quote from: DontSayBanana on September 01, 2009, 07:02:05 PM

Quote from: Neil on September 01, 2009, 07:00:40 PM
Why are you so gay?

I'd be less worried if he was. That's some fucked-up obsession with the teenage girls of Disney he's got going there. Downright grallonesque. :ph34r:

He must be.  We're talking comics and other man stuff, and he's talking about a TV show for little girls.  That's exactly the way homos behave.

Yeah, because nothing says a "straight man" like a muscular, good-looking but strangely single and misunderstood guy who maintains a boring facade to cover his true identity which involves wearing bright-coloured lycra and going out at night to hang out with other guys like him.

Quote from: Jacob on September 01, 2009, 10:58:15 PM
In short, the only difference between you and your opponents is that you have better nerds on your side.  If you didn't, it be your woman, your house and life that'd be owned by your foes.

I'm pretty sure his woman is already being owned by all the willing males in the neighbourhood when he is away, what with Siegy being an eunuch and all.

I thought one of the major points of an Alpha male was that he could breed.  That rules Siegy out.

Quote from: Peter Wiggin on September 02, 2009, 03:18:45 AM
:lmfao:

You're actually taking Siege seriously enough to take offense.

Taking him seriously would be too rational to describe it. Something about that moron just sets me off. It takes a special class of dumbass to try to excuse every idiotic thing he says and does as "more manly," and I'm also sick of seeing him try to put his Disney Channel jerk-off material into every thread on the front page. It makes me long for the days of Kapland's Sandbox.

Quote from: Martinus on September 02, 2009, 04:39:18 AM

Quote from: Neil on September 01, 2009, 07:14:26 PM

Quote from: DontSayBanana on September 01, 2009, 07:02:05 PM

Quote from: Neil on September 01, 2009, 07:00:40 PM
Why are you so gay?

I'd be less worried if he was. That's some fucked-up obsession with the teenage girls of Disney he's got going there. Downright grallonesque. :ph34r:

He must be.  We're talking comics and other man stuff, and he's talking about a TV show for little girls.  That's exactly the way homos behave.

Yeah, because nothing says a "straight man" like a muscular, good-looking but strangely single and misunderstood guy who maintains a boring facade to cover his true identity which involves wearing bright-coloured lycra and going out at night to hang out with other guys like him.

Most superheros aren't single.

Quote from: Martinus on September 02, 2009, 04:39:18 AM
Yeah, because nothing says a "straight man" like a muscular, good-looking but strangely single and misunderstood guy who maintains a boring facade to cover his true identity which involves wearing bright-coloured lycra and going out at night to hang out with other guys like him.

We straight men defy all stereotypes.

Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 02, 2009, 11:05:19 AM

Quote from: Martinus on September 02, 2009, 04:39:18 AM

Quote from: Neil on September 01, 2009, 07:14:26 PM

Quote from: DontSayBanana on September 01, 2009, 07:02:05 PM

Quote from: Neil on September 01, 2009, 07:00:40 PM
Why are you so gay?

I'd be less worried if he was. That's some fucked-up obsession with the teenage girls of Disney he's got going there. Downright grallonesque. :ph34r:

He must be.  We're talking comics and other man stuff, and he's talking about a TV show for little girls.  That's exactly the way homos behave.

Yeah, because nothing says a "straight man" like a muscular, good-looking but strangely single and misunderstood guy who maintains a boring facade to cover his true identity which involves wearing bright-coloured lycra and going out at night to hang out with other guys like him.

Most superheros aren't single.

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Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 02, 2009, 11:05:19 AM
Most superheros aren't single.

DC:
Superman:  Married (Lois Lane)
Batman:  Single
Wonder Woman:  Single
Green Lantern:  Single
The Flash:  Married (Iris West Allen)
Martian Manhunter: Widowered
Aquaman:  Married (Mera)
Green Arrow:  Married (Black Canary)
The Atom:  Divorced (Jean Loring)
Hawkman:  Involved across all his reincarnations with Hawkgirl, they were originally married.
Jay Garrick:  Married (Joan Garrick)
Alan Scott:  Married (Molly Mayne)
Mister Terrific:  Widowered
Hourman:  Married (Liberty Belle)
Doctor Mid-Nite:  Single
Atom Smasher:  Single
Wildcat:  Single
Magog:  Single
Captain Marvel:  Single (dating Stargirl)
Power Girl:  Single
Blue Beetle:  Single
Booster Gold:  Single
Fire:  Single
Ice:  Single (dating Guy Gardner)
Elongated Man:  Married (Sue Dibny)
Mary Marvel:  Single
Doctor Light:  Single
Doctor Fate:  Single, although a previous Dr. Fate (Hector Hall) was married to Lyta Hall.
Captain Atom:  Divorced (Plastique)
John Stewart:  Widowered
Plastic Man:  Single
Red Tornado:  Married (Kathy Sutton)
Vixen:  Single
Zatanna:  Single
Mister Miracle:  Married (Big Barda)
Huntress:  Single
Animal Man:  Married (Ellen Baker)
Nightwing:  Single
Wally West:  Married (Linda Park-West)
Tempest:  Married (Dolphin)
Donna Troy:  Widowed (Terry Long)
Red Arrow:  Single
Beast Boy:  Single
Cyborg:  Single
Raven:  Single
Starfire:  Single
Red Robin:  Single
Secret:  Single
Spoiler:  Single
Wondergirl:  Single
Miss Martian:  Single

Seems to me that most of them are single.

Teen heroes shouldn't count.

Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 02, 2009, 08:17:02 PM
Teen heroes shouldn't count.

Just looking at the Big Seven, four of them are currently single.

Besides, I'd give the teens credit for dating someone, as I did with Captain Marvel and Stargirl.

Superman was single for the most part of his career. It is clear that Lois Lane is his beard.

Well, I suppose you can call Apollo and Midnighter married too. Though probably that does not exactly support your claim, Tim.

Anyway, since when being married meant someone is not gay? Just look at Oscar Wilde.

Quote from: Martinus on September 03, 2009, 03:19:24 AM
Superman was single for the most part of his career. It is clear that Lois Lane is his beard.

You fucking take that back!

Quote from: Martinus on September 03, 2009, 03:22:51 AM
Well, I suppose you can call Apollo and Midnighter married too. Though probably that does not exactly support your claim, Tim.

You probably don't even know who Apollo and the Midnighter are, you backwards fuck.  And no, I wouldn't call them married, because gays can't get married.

QuoteAnyway, since when being married meant someone is not gay? Just look at Oscar Wilde.

Almost no superheros are gay.  There is a slightly higher proportion of gays in the support characters, but even then, homosexuality tends to be played for laughs.

On the list I provided, not a single one was gay.

Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 02, 2009, 11:05:19 AM
Most superheros aren't single.

Mephisto can easily fix that.     ;)

Quote from: Martinus on September 03, 2009, 03:19:24 AM
Superman was single for the most part of his career. It is clear that Lois Lane is his beard.

Superman would never hide in some closet!  Maybe a phone booth.