The fight is tomorrow. Is anyone going to watch? Is anyone not going to watch this?
I'm really excited. This is going to answer the question: "Do you need to be a boxer to become the best boxer?"
It will also shed light on related questions, such as, "does starring in a mediocre reality show qualify you to be a great president?"
I have a modest proposal. This fight can end the debate on the status of confederate monuments. If McGregor knocks out Mayweather, all the confederate monuments will come down and be replaced by statues of McGregor knocking out Mayweather. If Mayweather knocks out McGregor, the monuments will be replaced by that image. That should get people sufficiently geared up for the fight.
If there are no knockouts and this is a super boring fight, then the monuments will be replaced by statues of boxing fans looking dejected as they realize they were scammed out of a bunch of money by possibly illiterate woman beater and a ridiculous irishman. (Those statues will look remarkably similar to pay per view payees for basically every boxing match since 1995).
I don't really like boxing but if I could watch this for free I probably would. Also if they aired it on a reasonable time and not early Sunday morning.
I will not watch it because I don't care
It's the biggest event yet.
don't really care. only thing that would make it exciting is if McGregor gets pissed and breaks Mayweather's arm or something.
Meh.
Either Mayweather will use his "technical" boxing skills to avoid MacGregor's offensive and keep him at bay, and he will win by contested decision, or this has the potential of MacGregor being the CM Punk of this match and losing in 37 seconds.
Either way, Mayweather wins and the wife-beating champion of the world gets even richer.
No, I won't pay to watch sports on tv.
I developed a little taste for boxing after some of my friends back in NYC invited me to ppv parties, but this is just a stupid dog and pony fight. Couldn't care less. The whole build-up has been WWE-tastic, too.
I would watch it if it were free, if only for the chance to see an MMA asschimp die in the ring against an actual boxer because he was unable to roll around and wrestle in his bare feet.
Quote from: alfred russel on August 25, 2017, 12:26:13 PM
The fight is tomorrow. Is anyone going to watch? Is anyone not going to watch this?
I'm really excited. This is going to answer the question: "Do you need to be a boxer to become the best boxer?"
At least McGregor gets a big payday.
Not really interested. Mayweather will win easily.
To reiterate from the Out and About thread:
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Quote from: HVC on August 25, 2017, 12:57:42 PM
don't really care. only thing that would make it exciting is if McGregor gets pissed and breaks Mayweather's arm or something.
I actually expect something along those lines--McGregor gets in trouble and reverts to doing some MMA shit and loses by DQ. Don't care enough though to pay to watch it.
Yeah that's the thing I don't get... if they play by boxing rules, surely the experienced boxer will win. Sure he can punch, but if his way of winning relies on all kinds of kicks (which it seems to do) to support his punching strategy the Irish fellow is competing in a whole different ball-game... erh... hitting-people-game.
Quote from: dps on August 25, 2017, 05:14:30 PM
Quote from: HVC on August 25, 2017, 12:57:42 PM
don't really care. only thing that would make it exciting is if McGregor gets pissed and breaks Mayweather's arm or something.
I actually expect something along those lines--McGregor gets in trouble and reverts to doing some MMA shit and loses by DQ.
He wouldn't even get that far. Mayweather's corner would jump the ropes and icepick that goof like it was yard time at NYDOC Five Points.
Maywether will win. McGregor doesn't have the skills
Quote from: Jacob on August 25, 2017, 05:30:53 PM
Yeah that's the thing I don't get... if they play by boxing rules, surely the experienced boxer will win. Sure he can punch, but if his way of winning relies on all kinds of kicks (which it seems to do) to support his punching strategy the Irish fellow is competing in a whole different ball-game... erh... hitting-people-game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyZJ55PZ50E
Here is a championship fight that McGregor won in 13 seconds. He took the guy out landing a punch.
He hits with power, so he has a punchers chance. They will be using 8 ounce gloves rather than the 4 ounces he uses in MMA, so there is some question as to whether the ability to take someone out with a single punch transfers to boxing. The much bigger question is whether he will be able to land a square punch on Mayweather (that has happened very rarely in Mayweather's career against top professional boxers).
The best theory I heard to give McGregor a chance is that he won't play by the boxing rules. He will headbutt, hit late, go to the top/back of the head etc and force the referee to stop him. Presumably the referee is not going to be prone to disqualifying McGregor since this is such a big fight and McGregor won't care about points deductions because he has no chance of winning on points.
Nope McGregor is not a dirty type fighter.
Quote from: alfred russel on August 25, 2017, 06:08:24 PM
Quote from: Jacob on August 25, 2017, 05:30:53 PM
Yeah that's the thing I don't get... if they play by boxing rules, surely the experienced boxer will win. Sure he can punch, but if his way of winning relies on all kinds of kicks (which it seems to do) to support his punching strategy the Irish fellow is competing in a whole different ball-game... erh... hitting-people-game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyZJ55PZ50E
Here is a championship fight that McGregor won in 13 seconds. He took the guy out landing a punch.
He hits with power, so he has a punchers chance. They will be using 8 ounce gloves rather than the 4 ounces he uses in MMA, so there is some question as to whether the ability to take someone out with a single punch transfers to boxing. The much bigger question is whether he will be able to land a square punch on Mayweather (that has happened very rarely in Mayweather's career against top professional boxers).
The best theory I heard to give McGregor a chance is that he won't play by the boxing rules. He will headbutt, hit late, go to the top/back of the head etc and force the referee to stop him. Presumably the referee is not going to be prone to disqualifying McGregor since this is such a big fight and McGregor won't care about points deductions because he has no chance of winning on points.
I read and watched the Primer on this and I thought it did a good job of analyzing the factors: https://www.fightprimer.com/blog/2017/8/21/the-primer-floyd-mayweather-vs-conor-mcgregor
Seems to me that McGregor's punch excels in MMA because the whole suite of tools he brings to the fight. He uses those tools - including a variety of kicks - to control the range of the fight and the decisions the opponent is forced to make, and that's what sets up his various strong moves. Sure he took out the guy by landing a punch, but he landed that punch because the guy went in expecting to potentially have to deal with a wide variety of techniques that McGregor cannot use against Mayweather.
I mean, it's the same with Mayweather, he uses his various techniques to control his opponent and set up his strong attacks. It's just that in this case, all of Mayweather's techniques, training, and experience directly apply while McGregor's does not.
Were things reversed - if they fought by MMA rules - I figure McGregor would be the clear favourite too.
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Quote from: Jacob on August 25, 2017, 05:30:53 PM
Yeah that's the thing I don't get... if they play by boxing rules, surely the experienced boxer will win. Sure he can punch, but if his way of winning relies on all kinds of kicks (which it seems to do) to support his punching strategy the Irish fellow is competing in a whole different ball-game... erh... hitting-people-game.
Apparently he got knocked out by his sparring partner. So... yeah.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 25, 2017, 05:41:22 PM
Quote from: dps on August 25, 2017, 05:14:30 PM
Quote from: HVC on August 25, 2017, 12:57:42 PM
don't really care. only thing that would make it exciting is if McGregor gets pissed and breaks Mayweather's arm or something.
I actually expect something along those lines--McGregor gets in trouble and reverts to doing some MMA shit and loses by DQ.
He wouldn't even get that far. Mayweather's corner would jump the ropes and icepick that goof like it was yard time at NYDOC Five Points.
Yeah, mayweather's body guards are like walking mountains. Irish might be a top mma guy, but he can't take on a thousand pounds of angry black men.
Maywether win by TKO. Due to late fight stoppage (10-12th round) by ref or doctor.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 25, 2017, 06:39:03 PM
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EMERGERD
First I heard of it was on the news last night. I won't be watching no. Though I guess I now have somewhat a curiosity to check afterwards on how quickly this UFC man goes down.
Quote from: Tyr on August 26, 2017, 06:07:00 AM
First I heard of it was on the news last night. I won't be watching no. Though I guess I now have somewhat a curiosity to check afterwards on how quickly this UFC man goes down.
No love for your Irish neighbors?
I don't know much about boxing. I don't know the rules, the players, how it works, etc. It is like hockey. Or American football. Or blackholes.
Quote from: Monoriu on August 26, 2017, 11:16:03 AM
I don't know much about boxing. I don't know the rules, the players, how it works, etc. It is like hockey. Or American football. Or blackholes.
You don't know how boxing works? You punch people.
Quote from: Valmy on August 26, 2017, 11:20:19 AM
Quote from: Monoriu on August 26, 2017, 11:16:03 AM
I don't know much about boxing. I don't know the rules, the players, how it works, etc. It is like hockey. Or American football. Or blackholes.
You don't know how boxing works? You punch people.
Yeah, that I know :P But can you kick someone? I sort of know that if your opponent can't get up after a count to 10, you win. But what happens if this doesn't happen?
Quote from: Monoriu on August 26, 2017, 11:25:53 AM
Yeah, that I know :P But can you kick someone? I sort of know that if your opponent can't get up after a count to 10, you win. But what happens if this doesn't happen?
Nope. Only punches. If you get up the punching starts happening again.
So you punch people until one of them is down? Is there a time limit? What happens if you reach the time limit and both boxers are still standing?
Stop being retarded, Mono.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 26, 2017, 11:35:58 AM
Stop being retarded, Mono.
I don't think he can. The question is, is it genetic or cultural. You know, the old nature vs nurture debate.
Quote from: Monoriu on August 26, 2017, 11:35:26 AM
So you punch people until one of them is down? Is there a time limit? What happens if you reach the time limit and both boxers are still standing?
Sort of. Yes. They have judges who determine the winner.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 26, 2017, 11:35:58 AM
Stop being retarded, Mono.
Tell us the rules of mahjong why dontcha :P
Here is an example of a boxing match. Who's the boss eh?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RREwkzzoEsQ
He was much better IRL than his character on Taxi.
The fight is only 40 seconds long.
Yo, Anga-ler!
Quote from: HVC on August 26, 2017, 12:28:53 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 26, 2017, 11:35:58 AM
Stop being retarded, Mono.
Tell us the rules of mahjong why dontcha :P
It's like dominoes, but with a hell of a lot more yelling.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 26, 2017, 12:55:31 PM
Quote from: HVC on August 26, 2017, 12:28:53 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 26, 2017, 11:35:58 AM
Stop being retarded, Mono.
Tell us the rules of mahjong why dontcha :P
It's like dominoes, but with a hell of a lot more yelling.
You've clearly never played dominoes with Jamaicans
Rude.
Don't believe the hype.
Personally I'd prefer to watch the televised tabletop showdown between Gups and his Jamaican neighbours. :bowler:
London's not that far away, why wait for it to be televised? Or more realistically, live streamed.
Quote from: Gups on August 26, 2017, 05:28:23 PM
You've clearly never played dominoes with Jamaicans
Nor would I.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 26, 2017, 06:09:04 PM
Quote from: Gups on August 26, 2017, 05:28:23 PM
You've clearly never played dominoes with Jamaicans
Nor would I.
I'm not sure I've ever played a game of dominoes without everyone yelling. :unsure:
Quote from: garbon on August 26, 2017, 07:46:56 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 26, 2017, 06:09:04 PM
Quote from: Gups on August 26, 2017, 05:28:23 PM
You've clearly never played dominoes with Jamaicans
Nor would I.
I'm not sure I've ever played a game of dominoes without everyone yelling. :unsure:
Toppling dominoes tends to have that effect in America. :P
I would watch it but I am done with staying up until 2 am to watch fights.
I'll see the replay in the morning.
zzzzzzz
Someone inexplicably posted a livestream of the match to my neighborhood's facebook group for owners/finders of missing pets.
It's like watching a cat play with and slowly disembowel another, weaker cat.
That's a portion of my life utterly wasted. :zzz
Quote from: 11B4V on August 25, 2017, 06:52:05 PM
Maywether win by TKO. Due to late fight stoppage (10-12th round) by ref or doctor.
Called it.
Well that was dumb.
For the life of me I don't understand how this shit consistently nets 8-9 figures to the two dudes.
Quote from: alfred russel on August 27, 2017, 12:39:11 AM
Well that was dumb.
Caught the last few rounds because I was bored. Red should have let mayweather keep punching him :lol:
Quote from: DGuller on August 27, 2017, 12:42:47 AM
For the life of me I don't understand how this shit consistently nets 8-9 figures to the two dudes.
Me either, but I'll keep watching and let you know if I figure it out.
Another thing that puzzles me there doesn't seem to be regular matches, and the matches are few and far in between.
Quote from: Monoriu on August 27, 2017, 12:47:59 AM
Another thing that puzzles me there doesn't seem to be regular matches, and the matches are few and far in between.
There's all kinds of bouts. All the time.
Quote from: Monoriu on August 27, 2017, 12:47:59 AM
Another thing that puzzles me there doesn't seem to be regular matches, and the matches are few and far in between.
You fight more often when no one knows who the hell you are...and then it gets less often as you get more famous/keep winning His first 20 wins (of 50) were in his first 2-3 years (out of 21 years).
An amazing fight.
I'm surprised he lasted ten rounds.
Quote from: Grinning_Colossus on August 26, 2017, 11:41:18 PMIt's like watching a cat play with and slowly disembowel another, weaker cat.
Yeah this was an exhibition fight, not a boxing match.
I hope we get a Mayweather money-counting video out of this. I'd rather watch that than the fight.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 27, 2017, 03:23:53 AM
I'm surprised he lasted ten rounds.
Tim, you can't predict a fucking thing in this world, you don't have to post what surprises you, I just assume it is basically everything. :hug:
He did predict a few super bowl winners.
Quote from: Eddie Teach on August 27, 2017, 02:41:26 PM
He did predict a few super bowl winners.
He is a Boston homer, which is another interesting point.
Remember when Boston first won the world series and he was posting pictures of Curt Schilling's sock? Or the numerous times he stated that Brady is the GOAT?
So sad that his heroes are Trump supporters and the city of which he is such a fan so awfully racist. Just look at Tom Yawkee for the legacy of racism that teams like the Red Sox are based on.
Dorsey, if you're gonna make a post ripping Tim (which is completely understandable; everyone should do it on a regular basis), don't go Timmay yourself and spell stuff wrong.
Quote from: alfred russel on August 27, 2017, 04:40:02 PM
Quote from: Eddie Teach on August 27, 2017, 02:41:26 PM
He did predict a few super bowl winners.
He is a Boston homer, which is another interesting point.
Remember when Boston first won the world series and he was posting pictures of Curt Schilling's sock? Or the numerous times he stated that Brady is the GOAT?
So sad that his heroes are Trump supporters and the city of which he is such a fan so awfully racist. Just look at Tom Yawkee for the legacy of racism that teams like the Red Sox are based on.
Ironic too, that Rhode Island was founded to gtfo of Massachusetts.
Quote from: dps on August 27, 2017, 06:30:06 PM
Dorsey, if you're gonna make a post ripping Tim (which is completely understandable; everyone should do it on a regular basis), don't go Timmay yourself and spell stuff wrong.
What did I misspell?
You are of course correct.
Quote from: dps on August 27, 2017, 06:30:06 PM
Dorsey, if you're gonna make a post ripping Tim (which is completely understandable; everyone should do it on a regular basis), don't go Timmay yourself and spell stuff wrong.
Also don't go all Timmay and deny that Brady is the GOAT.
Sheep go to heaven, goats go to hell.
Quote from: alfred russel on August 27, 2017, 06:56:01 PM
Quote from: dps on August 27, 2017, 06:30:06 PM
Dorsey, if you're gonna make a post ripping Tim (which is completely understandable; everyone should do it on a regular basis), don't go Timmay yourself and spell stuff wrong.
What did I misspell?
You are of course correct.
Yawkey.