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In celebration of America what is your relationship with this symbol of America?

I like the McGriddle, haven't had it in a few years though.

Was one of my main sources of grub when I was a poor student, never go there anymore. Last time IIRC was a couple years ago when I hooked up with an ex and we got the munchies at around 3am. Maccy D's was the only place open at that time.

I like their breakfast. Haven't had a burger there in ages, though - generally prefer BK. I generally went for their special seasonal burgers instead of the regular fare.

The other day I actually did walk into a McD here. Most have switched to this "My Burger" thing which supposedly originated in Austria? Anyways, I looked at the big touch screen, looked at the "cashier kiosk", decided I didn't want to spend the 30-60 seconds to figure out the new system and went for a burrito instead.

I'd say a few times a year. I always have lived and/or worked near one.

You are old, Syt. :D Touchscreens are great as they reduce human interaction!

I like their wraps. About a couple of times each month I'd go and buy whichever wrap happens to be on the daily deal.

Quote from: Tamas on October 11, 2016, 05:37:15 AM
You are old, Syt. :D Touchscreens are great as they reduce human interaction!

Why is that a good thing? :unsure:

Tamas doesn't want anything to do with the poors who work at McDonalds.  :P

There's a new sushi place near my girlfriend's work that's pretty great, but they have a touchscreen system and people spend so much time figuring it out that it would be faster to just have a real person take the orders, really. There's always a huge queue in front of the machines.

Havn't been there in ages and I only went there once a year or so. Last time was in Germany, in a rush. I would go to another burger joint if I wanted a burger anyways. Five Guys has one restaurant around here and plan to open another.

Hippocampus or Hippopotamus would be my vote, yes.

Used to, now never. The only time I regularly ate Maccy D's (as we call it here) was went I went to Wargames Club as a teen. I have fallen fowl (geddit?) to a few McNuggets over the years. Last time I went in with a group of colleagues, the smell and the queue of plebs at the counter put me off and I walked out.

Avoid. It's been at least 10 years.

It is a pleasant vice in which I indulge now and then when I am down in the dumps or I deserve a little bit of fucking sunshine in this concentration camp of a life.

Somewhere between once a month and a few times a year.  The best thing there, by far, is their breakfast.

Quote from: Tamas on October 11, 2016, 05:37:15 AM
You are old, Syt. :D

I don't mind touchscreens. I haven't been since they made the change, and I couldn't tell what the procedure was - I order on the screen, ok. I probably pay at the cashier, though the touch screens allow for card payment. But it didn't look like you would get your food there (table service?).

And I wanted to grab breakfast, for which I wasn't sure if the kiosk or the touchscreen would have been the correct course of action (the breakfast menu was advertised above/behind the cash counter). I was tired, hungry,  annoyed, and instead went to a proper café and had a proper breakfast.

You'd pay at the screen, get a number and you'd get your order where everywhere else.

I like it best when I want to browse what's available, without trying to figure out their microscopic menu and holding up 10 other people.

Once, maybe twice, thirty odd years ago.  :bowler:

Quote from: Tamas on October 11, 2016, 07:04:15 AM
You'd pay at the screen, get a number and you'd get your order where everywhere else.

I like it best when I want to browse what's available, without trying to figure out their microscopic menu and holding up 10 other people.

Get better glasses, Grandpa.

Quote from: garbon on October 11, 2016, 07:17:38 AM

Quote from: Tamas on October 11, 2016, 07:04:15 AM
You'd pay at the screen, get a number and you'd get your order where everywhere else.

I like it best when I want to browse what's available, without trying to figure out their microscopic menu and holding up 10 other people.

Get better glasses, Grandpa.

I mean the goddamn full list they tuck away somewhere :P

Let's face it: the touchscreen thingie is just more efficient.

Quote from: Tamas on October 11, 2016, 07:34:43 AM

Quote from: garbon on October 11, 2016, 07:17:38 AM

Quote from: Tamas on October 11, 2016, 07:04:15 AM
You'd pay at the screen, get a number and you'd get your order where everywhere else.

I like it best when I want to browse what's available, without trying to figure out their microscopic menu and holding up 10 other people.

Get better glasses, Grandpa.

I mean the goddamn full list they tuck away somewhere :P

Let's face it: the touchscreen thingie is just more efficient.

It is because of people like you that self-checkout is all the range in drug and grocery stores. <_<

Self-checkout :wub:

I prefer having a cashier check me out but not enough to sit through a 10-minute line.

I like MckyDs. Feeds us 4 for 35$ is a good deal.

I'm with Tamas, self check out is awesome. My best shopping trip was at Ikea where I bought 6 bookcases without ever talking to someone.

Quote from: Grey Fox on October 11, 2016, 08:05:17 AM
I like MckyDs. Feeds us 4 for 35$ is a good deal.

I'm with Tamas, self check out is awesome. My best shopping trip was at Ikea where I bought 6 bookcases without ever talking to someone.

Languish to the core.   :(  or :showoff: or  :rolleyes:

its value menu is pretty garbage up here. BK's is much better

Quote from: mongers on October 11, 2016, 08:19:19 AM

Quote from: Grey Fox on October 11, 2016, 08:05:17 AM
I like MckyDs. Feeds us 4 for 35$ is a good deal.

I'm with Tamas, self check out is awesome. My best shopping trip was at Ikea where I bought 6 bookcases without ever talking to someone.

Languish to the core.   :(  or :showoff: or  :rolleyes:

It's awesome

Kids used to like to go there.  Then they moved on to Chick-fil-A.  Now for some reason they love Frisch's. 

Probably been a year or so since I've been inside a McDonald's.  Maybe 6 months since I've been through the drive-thru.

I shoved a sausage and egg biscuit down my throat yesterday morning. No cheese.

The touch screens are interesting.  They seem to have really taken off here. Used to be nobody using them but now they're often queued for.
I like them as it means you get all the options laid out for you and chances of screw ups are rare- a problem even in English speaking lands let alone abroad.

Quote from: Eddie Teach on October 11, 2016, 07:54:25 AM
I prefer having a cashier check me out but not enough to sit through a 10-minute line.

If I wanted to play cashier, I'd apply for a job.

Quote from: garbon on October 11, 2016, 09:25:21 AM

Quote from: Eddie Teach on October 11, 2016, 07:54:25 AM
I prefer having a cashier check me out but not enough to sit through a 10-minute line.

If I wanted to play cashier, I'd apply for a job.

:lol: Luckily placing items into your shopping cart without help is not beneath you, otherwise you'd starve.

Quote from: garbon on October 11, 2016, 09:25:21 AM

Quote from: Eddie Teach on October 11, 2016, 07:54:25 AM
I prefer having a cashier check me out but not enough to sit through a 10-minute line.

If I wanted to play cashier, I'd apply for a job.

This, sort of.

Tamas just selects BEETS. Easy!

Quote from: Tamas on October 11, 2016, 09:26:50 AM

Quote from: garbon on October 11, 2016, 09:25:21 AM

Quote from: Eddie Teach on October 11, 2016, 07:54:25 AM
I prefer having a cashier check me out but not enough to sit through a 10-minute line.

If I wanted to play cashier, I'd apply for a job.

:lol: Luckily placing items into your shopping cart without help is not beneath you, otherwise you'd starve.

What is this shopping cart of which you speak? :hmm:

But seriously though. Like I want to spend time with items that won't properly scan or a machine yelling at me that I have an unexpected item in the bagging area and I ain't got shit there. No, as part of my customer experience, it is up for them to sort out that bit.

Already sad enough that you have to bag your own items in the UK. :(

Quote from: garbon on October 11, 2016, 09:31:15 AM
Already sad enough that you have to bag your own items in the UK. :(

Most of Europe, I believe.

Get my occasional Egg McMuffin, and that is about it. MMMmmmmmm......

Like a few here I do enjoy their breakfast Egg McMuffin. :mmm:

It is an easy outing for the kids though.  On a weekend we may go to McDonalds, get three happy meals (chicken nuggets, chocolate milk, and share fries / apple slices).  I'll get a veggie wrap and coffee. The kids play in the play structure for an hour while I surf the free wi-fi.

Quote from: garbon on October 11, 2016, 09:31:15 AM


But seriously though. Like I want to spend time with items that won't properly scan or a machine yelling at me that I have an unexpected item in the bagging area and I ain't got shit there. No, as part of my customer experience, it is up for them to sort out that bit.

how about you just git gud

Really at one hand you are all condescending about people working cashier tilts, then stating doing their job is beyond your technical abilities.  :P


But I do not actually want to convince you. It is great to be able to skip queues because of people like you :P

Quote from: Tamas on October 11, 2016, 09:50:58 AM

Quote from: garbon on October 11, 2016, 09:31:15 AM


But seriously though. Like I want to spend time with items that won't properly scan or a machine yelling at me that I have an unexpected item in the bagging area and I ain't got shit there. No, as part of my customer experience, it is up for them to sort out that bit.

how about you just git gud

Really at one hand you are all condescending about people working cashier tilts, then stating doing their job is beyond your technical abilities.  :P


But I do not actually want to convince you. It is great to be able to skip queues because of people like you :P

I'm not being condescending to cashiers. I think they have a relevant job to play in society and not one that I want for myself - particularly as a paying customer. Great fraud - pay same price and handle the transaction yourself! :rolleyes:

Also, I don't think you need to worry about convincing me. I've had enough experiences with self checkout to know that I don't enjoy it.

The question with self checkout is not whether I can do it as well as a person, it is whether the fucking POS automated self-checkout system can do it as well as a person.

And the answers is, from my experience, 99% of the time "Hell No!".

Quote from: Berkut on October 11, 2016, 10:53:38 AM
The question with self checkout is not whether I can do it as well as a person, it is whether the fucking POS automated self-checkout system can do it as well as a person.

And the answers is, from my experience, 99% of the time "Hell No!".

Maybe you Americans had it earlier, with earliers versions of the system which were worse, IDK.

I haven't really had any issues with it.

Self checkout sucks. What a rip off.

Anyway I am more of a Wendy's guy when it comes to fast food but since I have kids now I have to get McDonald's chicken sandwich while they get their toys...er...I mean lunches every once in a while. Wendy's chicken sandwiches are better.

I find it strange that McDonalds is such a symbol of America abroad. It is no more a patriotic symbol than any other fast food restaurant is stateside. So I always found it bizarre angry foreigners were show their hatred of us by trashing a McDonalds, also with it being a franchise owned and staffed entirely by locals and all.

The Walmart ones suck, the ones at my local supermarket are pretty good.

Quote from: Valmy on October 11, 2016, 11:39:19 AM
Self checkout sucks. What a rip off.

Anyway I am more of a Wendy's guy when it comes to fast food but since I have kids now I have to get McDonald's chicken sandwich while they get their toys...er...I mean lunches every once in a while. Wendy's chicken sandwiches are better.

I find it strange that McDonalds is such a symbol of America abroad. It is no more a patriotic symbol than any other fast food restaurant is stateside. So I always found it bizarre angry foreigners were show their hatred of us by trashing a McDonalds, also with it being a franchise owned and staffed entirely by locals and all.

Specially when McDonalds goes to such lengths to localize their menus all around the world.

If you go to a, I dunno, Burger King, in another country it pretty much looks the same as one in North America.  But a McDonalds has a lot of local options on the menu.

Quote from: Tamas on October 11, 2016, 11:37:09 AM

Quote from: Berkut on October 11, 2016, 10:53:38 AM
The question with self checkout is not whether I can do it as well as a person, it is whether the fucking POS automated self-checkout system can do it as well as a person.

And the answers is, from my experience, 99% of the time "Hell No!".

Maybe you Americans had it earlier, with earliers versions of the system which were worse, IDK.

I haven't really had any issues with it.

Same here.  Most of the time I have a relatively small number of items and self-checkout ends up being way faster.  Plus I pretty much go for any DIY opportunity that presents itself.

Quote from: Barrister on October 11, 2016, 11:46:35 AM

Quote from: Valmy on October 11, 2016, 11:39:19 AM


I find it strange that McDonalds is such a symbol of America abroad. It is no more a patriotic symbol than any other fast food restaurant is stateside. So I always found it bizarre angry foreigners were show their hatred of us by trashing a McDonalds, also with it being a franchise owned and staffed entirely by locals and all.

Specially when McDonalds goes to such lengths to localize their menus all around the world.

I just had a look but there's nothing in there I'd consider local. And if there is it's probably some Disneyfied abortion trying to resemble something 'local' as described by tourist guides.  :P

I kind of get the hatred. It's probably unfair to single out McDonald's but they just happen to be the symbol of everything that's wrong about fast food chains.

Quote from: Maladict on October 11, 2016, 12:15:27 PM

I kind of get the hatred. It's probably unfair to single out McDonald's but they just happen to be the symbol of everything that's wrong about fast food chains.

They provide a service people want? TEH HORRAH

Quote from: Maladict on October 11, 2016, 12:15:27 PM

Quote from: Barrister on October 11, 2016, 11:46:35 AM

Quote from: Valmy on October 11, 2016, 11:39:19 AM


I find it strange that McDonalds is such a symbol of America abroad. It is no more a patriotic symbol than any other fast food restaurant is stateside. So I always found it bizarre angry foreigners were show their hatred of us by trashing a McDonalds, also with it being a franchise owned and staffed entirely by locals and all.

Specially when McDonalds goes to such lengths to localize their menus all around the world.

I just had a look but there's nothing in there I'd consider local. And if there is it's probably some Disneyfied abortion trying to resemble something 'local' as described by tourist guides.  :P

I kind of get the hatred. It's probably unfair to single out McDonald's but they just happen to be the symbol of everything that's wrong about fast food chains.

I just went to the McDonalds Germany website.  That bratwurst hamburger is definitely not something you'd get in the USA.  You also don't get croissants and whatever the hell McToast is.  And I remember getting a McSchnitzel in Germany 8 years ago, although I can't find it on the menu now.

Don't get me wrong - McDonalds is still McDonalds.  I think you can get a Big Mac anywhere in the world.  But they arent' cookie-cutter operations

Quote from: Barrister on October 11, 2016, 12:21:12 PM

I just went to the McDonalds Germany website.  That bratwurst hamburger is definitely not something you'd get in the USA.  You also don't get croissants and whatever the hell McToast is.  And I remember getting a McSchnitzel in Germany 8 years ago, although I can't find it on the menu now.

Don't get me wrong - McDonalds is still McDonalds.  I think you can get a Big Mac anywhere in the world.  But they arent' cookie-cutter operations

I know I was mostly trolling and deserve some shit for that, but insinuating I'm German is too harsh.   :cry:

McDonald's in Germany has invested big time into their McCafés as Starbucks somehow fumbled their market entry in Germany. I go to McCafé a few times a year as their coffee is not bad and they are located conveniently along autobahns or in railway stations. I have some of their food maybe once or twice a year.

Quote from: Valmy on October 11, 2016, 12:18:01 PM

They provide a service people want? TEH HORRAH

Which is why I dislike people.  :)

It's been more than two decades since I ate at McDs.

Quote from: Maladict on October 11, 2016, 12:25:13 PM

Quote from: Barrister on October 11, 2016, 12:21:12 PM

I just went to the McDonalds Germany website.  That bratwurst hamburger is definitely not something you'd get in the USA.  You also don't get croissants and whatever the hell McToast is.  And I remember getting a McSchnitzel in Germany 8 years ago, although I can't find it on the menu now.

Don't get me wrong - McDonalds is still McDonalds.  I think you can get a Big Mac anywhere in the world.  But they arent' cookie-cutter operations

I know I was mostly trolling and deserve some shit for that, but insinuating I'm German is too harsh.   :cry:

:lol:

You should post more then Mal.  Where are you from then - Holland?

Quote from: Jacob on October 11, 2016, 12:27:56 PM
It's been more than two decades since I ate at McDs.

Impressive my friend. Your kids are clearly less susceptible to the clarion call of cheap crappy toys than mine.

Anyway I am more of a Wendy's guy when it comes to fast food but since I have kids now I have to get McDonald's chicken sandwich while they get their toys...er...I mean lunches every once in a while. Wendy's chicken sandwiches are better.

I find it strange that McDonalds is such a symbol of America abroad. It is no more a patriotic symbol than any other fast food restaurant is stateside. So I always found it bizarre angry foreigners were show their hatred of us by trashing a McDonalds, also with it being a franchise owned and staffed entirely by locals and all.[/quote]
It's the biggest fast food place in the US still right?

I guess its because of the history. "First McDonalds opens in Moscow" is such a big deal, a large ugly stand out sign of a country opening up to the west.

Plus we don't get most of the others. If we're lucky occasionally Burger King. Wendys...there was one in Harajuku for a few months before closing again; it was a bit expensive though alright.

Quote from: Barrister on October 11, 2016, 12:21:12 PM
just went to the McDonalds Germany website.  That bratwurst hamburger is definitely not something you'd get in the USA.  You also don't get croissants and whatever the hell McToast is.  And I remember getting a McSchnitzel in Germany 8 years ago, although I can't find it on the menu now.

Don't get me wrong - McDonalds is still McDonalds.  I think you can get a Big Mac anywhere in the world.  But they arent' cookie-cutter operations

I tried that one in Luxembourg. It is interesting to check out mcdonalds in new countries to see what is different.
"A kofte burger please"
"Hamburger? 1?" *rings it up*
"No. A kofte. burger"
"Ham. Burger?"
"No. Kufte, kofte, koofte, burger"
"....hamburger?"
"Gahh, that one on the picture!"

It is just a pretty standard sausage sandwich like you'll get at a greasy spoon in Britain.
I guess its good for a late breakfast

Add me to the list of self-checkout haters. In the long run, the only ones profiting from that thing are the chains that cut cashier jobs as they pull off the con of shifting that workload to the customers themselves.

Quote from: celedhring on October 11, 2016, 01:03:57 PM
Add me to the list of self-checkout haters. In the long run, the only ones profiting from that thing are the market chains that cut cashier jobs while as pull off the con of shifting that workload to the customers themselves.

I dunno - when the local McDonalds brought in the self-serve kiosks they said they were actually hiring more staff, because they were also introducing table service.

Quote from: Tyr on October 11, 2016, 12:53:23 PM
It's the biggest fast food place in the US still right?

I thought Subway had surpassed it. Even if it is it is not dominant, it has many roughly equivalent competitors.

Quote from: Valmy on October 11, 2016, 01:12:01 PM

Quote from: Tyr on October 11, 2016, 12:53:23 PM
It's the biggest fast food place in the US still right?

I thought Subway had surpassed it. Even if it is it is not dominant, it has many roughly equivalent competitors.

In # of locations.  Not sure about total sales though.

Quick google - yup McDonalds out-sells Subway almost 3-1.

Maybe McDonalds is just overpriced.

Quote from: Valmy on October 11, 2016, 11:39:19 AMI find it strange that McDonalds is such a symbol of America abroad. It is no more a patriotic symbol than any other fast food restaurant is stateside. So I always found it bizarre angry foreigners were show their hatred of us by trashing a McDonalds, also with it being a franchise owned and staffed entirely by locals and all.

Thrashing McD is soooo late 90s/early 00s, not that fashionable anymore. Then again, most of the McD and Burger Kings that I know are actually moving away from city centers and relocating to malls and roadside places, so it's not really convenient anymore for your average angry mob as it was back in the day. And come on, it's pretty easy to realize why McD gets picked out, as they (together with Burger King) were the burger chains that spearheaded the fast food movement, at least in Europe. For you it might be just another chain, but for many years in Europe it was THE chain, not many other chains did the same for many many years, so that symbolic position has been held in the mind of your average anti-globalization activist and similarly minded people by McD ever since, no matter what their recent market pivoting might entail.

Everytime the fast food topic gets brought up in the forum you guys start talking about so many chains we've never heard of, and you always seem miffled by that. We know McD, we know Burger King, they are in every decent sized city, at least over here. After that it depends a lot on each country, I've only seen Wendy's in the UK, but nowhere else. Pizza Hut used to be pretty common but it all became Domino's a couple of years ago. Subway is a staple of food courts in malls but not much else. KFC and Dunkin Donuts I've only seen them in Madrid. I've never seen a Taco Bell but I'm aware that there are some of them around. That's pretty much it, at least in my experience.

Anyway, for the purposes of the poll I answered "a few times in my life", as I have a really hard time remembering when was the last time I've been in one, and I've never been much of a fast food burger kind of person. I've been a customer a few times, of course, but never a regular. Kebab stays my fast food of choice.  :lol:

Also, like Cel, I'm of the opinion that self-checkout sucks and it's just an excuse to keep replacing employees with machines.

Quote from: Valmy on October 11, 2016, 11:39:19 AM
I find it strange that McDonalds is such a symbol of America abroad. It is no more a patriotic symbol than any other fast food restaurant is stateside. So I always found it bizarre angry foreigners were show their hatred of us by trashing a McDonalds, also with it being a franchise owned and staffed entirely by locals and all.

McDonald was the first and is by far the biggest American fastfood chain abroad, which is why it and not some other brand is the posterchild of American capitalism abroad.

The only other brand that comes even close is Coca-Cola, but that's not seen as negatively as McDonald's.

The "Mc" prefix is used to denote something cheap here, e.g. McJobs which is rather negative or a chain of gyms called McFit, which prides itself on its low monthly rates.

We ruined Scottish naming conventions. Sorry Clan Donald, you are now synonymous with cheap shit :weep:

But I guess we do the same thing. McMansions, for cheap but grand looking ugly houses (actually not cheap at all but cheap compared to an actual 8,000 square foot (750 sq meters) mansion), gets used all the time. I think we coined the 'McJobs' thing to.

Quote from: The Larch on October 11, 2016, 01:27:40 PM
Everytime the fast food topic gets brought up in the forum you guys start talking about so many chains we've never heard of, and you always seem miffled by that. We know McD, we know Burger King, they are in every decent sized city, at least over here. After that it depends a lot on each country, I've only seen Wendy's in the UK, but nowhere else. Pizza Hut used to be pretty common but it all became Domino's a couple of years ago. Subway is a staple of food courts in malls but not much else. KFC and Dunkin Donuts I've only seen them in Madrid. I've never seen a Taco Bell but I'm aware that there are some of them around. That's pretty much it, at least in my experience.

This is true in Germany as well. There are basically just McDonald's and a much smaller Burger King. All the other chains (KFC, Subway) have some franchises here, but nowhere near the same level as McDonald's. Their competition is mostly small-scale local Kebab or Bratwurst shops here. We have plenty of higher-class burger places now, including some chains, but they are not seen as being in the same market segment as McDonald's.

Quote from: The Larch on October 11, 2016, 01:33:48 PM
Anyway, for the purposes of the poll I answered "a few times in my life", as I have a really hard time remembering when was the last time I've been in one, and I've never been much of a fast food burger kind of person. I've been a customer a few times, of course, but never a regular. Kebab stays my fast food of choice.  :lol:

Also, like Cel, I'm of the opinion that self-checkout sucks and it's just an excuse to keep replacing employees with machines.

We have lots of fast food kebab places. Weirdly they are all German-Turkish fusion kebab joints.

But yeah I never eat fast food burgers. If I am going to eat a burger it is going to be a really good burger.

Quote from: Valmy on October 11, 2016, 01:38:14 PM

Quote from: The Larch on October 11, 2016, 01:33:48 PM
Anyway, for the purposes of the poll I answered "a few times in my life", as I have a really hard time remembering when was the last time I've been in one, and I've never been much of a fast food burger kind of person. I've been a customer a few times, of course, but never a regular. Kebab stays my fast food of choice.  :lol:

Also, like Cel, I'm of the opinion that self-checkout sucks and it's just an excuse to keep replacing employees with machines.

We have lots of fast food kebab places. Weirdly they are all German-Turkish fusion kebab joints.

But yeah I never eat fast food burgers. If I am going to eat a burger it is going to be a really good burger.

The fast food version of kebab is a German invention, so it's not that strange.

Quote from: The Larch on October 11, 2016, 01:40:07 PM
The fast food version of kebab is a German invention, so it's not that strange.

Well it is weird to me. 100 years after its height, I never thought that would be how German culture returns to conquer central Texas again.

Quote from: The Larch on October 11, 2016, 01:33:48 PM
Also, like Cel, I'm of the opinion that self-checkout sucks and it's just an excuse to keep replacing employees with machines.

You know, if they were actually replacing employees with machines it would be sort of legitimate, but they are just replacing employees with customers.

Also, we had a Wendy's here in Barcelona many years ago. It was better than McD's but it looks like the general population didn't think so. We have KFC and Dunkin' Donuts though - plenty of them actually.

Haven't been to McDonald's in a long time, but I don't boycott it like I do Burger King.

If I feel like fast food I usually have sushi.

Quote from: Valmy on October 11, 2016, 01:44:46 PM

Quote from: The Larch on October 11, 2016, 01:40:07 PM
The fast food version of kebab is a German invention, so it's not that strange.

Well it is weird to me. 100 years after its height, I never thought that would be how German culture returns to conquer central Texas again.

Meh, it's like people thinking TexMex is authentic Mexican food. :P

Quote from: Valmy on October 11, 2016, 01:38:14 PM

But yeah I never eat fast food burgers. If I am going to eat a burger it is going to be a really good burger.

Indeed. And these days, the "slightly upmarket" Five Guys type places make some damn, damn good burgers for just a bit more money. It is an easy choice.

Quote from: Syt on October 11, 2016, 01:46:14 PM

Quote from: Valmy on October 11, 2016, 01:44:46 PM

Quote from: The Larch on October 11, 2016, 01:40:07 PM
The fast food version of kebab is a German invention, so it's not that strange.

Well it is weird to me. 100 years after its height, I never thought that would be how German culture returns to conquer central Texas again.

Meh, it's like people thinking TexMex is authentic Mexican food. :P

Authentic Mexican food is not as good so I find that annoying indeed :angry:

We have a local place that does some really good "hipster burgers": one is with blue cheese, cherry tomato, and bacon marmelade. Another is with Spanish cheese, caramelized onions, and chimichurri sauce. And one with buffalo mozzarella and tomato jam. :mmm:

Quote from: celedhring on October 11, 2016, 01:45:30 PM

Quote from: The Larch on October 11, 2016, 01:33:48 PM
Also, like Cel, I'm of the opinion that self-checkout sucks and it's just an excuse to keep replacing employees with machines.

You know, if they were actually replacing employees with machines it would be sort of legitimate, but they are just replacing employees with customers.

It's a bit like self service only gas stations. You know, the gas still has the same price wether you pump it or if an employee does that, so if I'm not saving any money I'm doing some other guy's work.

Aren't you supposed to tip at serviced gas stations? I always felt like there was a dude who did something that I could do just as well and expected a gratification for it that I was not particularly willing to pay.

Quote from: Zanza on October 11, 2016, 01:56:55 PM
Aren't you supposed to tip at serviced gas stations? I always felt like there was a dude who did something that I could do just as well and expected a gratification for it that I was not particularly willing to pay.

First time I hear about tipping at a gas station.

I've only ever had them in South Africa as I can't remember ever refueling in NJ and have never been to Oregon (or wherever they have it in the US). I think in South Africa there was the expectation of a small tip when they filled up for you.

EDIT: Yes, you are supposed to tip at a South African gas station. http://www.southafrica.net/za/de/travel-tips/entry/travel-tip-tipping

I pretty much never eat fast food in Spain. When I did in Germany/Poland it was either a hot dog or a kebab.

I think I might have eaten perhaps twice at a McD, the last time 20 or so years ago.

Quote from: Zanza on October 11, 2016, 02:07:46 PM
I've only ever had them in South Africa as I can't remember ever refueling in NJ and have never been to Oregon (or wherever they have it in the US). I think in South Africa there was the expectation of a small tip when they filled up for you.

EDIT: Yes, you are supposed to tip at a South African gas station. http://www.southafrica.net/za/de/travel-tips/entry/travel-tip-tipping

Getting your gas pumped for you is pretty common in Spain and a tip is not expected at all.

It's weird how no one ever wants to admit to eating mcdonalds, and yet it's one of the most successful companies out there. And they made it successful with one of the creepiest mascots ever.

Never heard of tipping a gas jockey before.

Quote from: HVC on October 11, 2016, 02:36:12 PM
It's weird how no one ever wants to admit to eating mcdonalds, and yet it's one of the most successful companies out there. And they made it successful with one of the creepiest mascots ever.

Or we are simply not their intended audience. When McD still had a downtown franchise over here their main customers were teenagers.

Quote from: Zanza on October 11, 2016, 02:07:46 PM
I've only ever had them in South Africa as I can't remember ever refueling in NJ and have never been to Oregon (or wherever they have it in the US). I think in South Africa there was the expectation of a small tip when they filled up for you.

EDIT: Yes, you are supposed to tip at a South African gas station. http://www.southafrica.net/za/de/travel-tips/entry/travel-tip-tipping

In US, I would if not in NJ or OR.

Quote from: The Larch on October 11, 2016, 02:42:18 PM

Quote from: HVC on October 11, 2016, 02:36:12 PM
It's weird how no one ever wants to admit to eating mcdonalds, and yet it's one of the most successful companies out there. And they made it successful with one of the creepiest mascots ever.

Or we are simply not their intended audience. When McD still had a downtown franchise over here their main customers were teenagers.

I don't mean just here, it's a general trope that people never admit to eating at McDonald's and has been for years.

Quote from: HVC on October 11, 2016, 02:45:06 PM

Quote from: The Larch on October 11, 2016, 02:42:18 PM

Quote from: HVC on October 11, 2016, 02:36:12 PM
It's weird how no one ever wants to admit to eating mcdonalds, and yet it's one of the most successful companies out there. And they made it successful with one of the creepiest mascots ever.

Or we are simply not their intended audience. When McD still had a downtown franchise over here their main customers were teenagers.

I don't mean just here, it's a general trope that people never admit to eating at McDonald's and has been for years.

It's the same with any "unpopular" thing (voting conservative, watching reality tv, whatever), people will never admit in public to do it, but in private they will.

Quote from: The Larch on October 11, 2016, 02:42:18 PM
Or we are simply not their intended audience.

My old gym was located inbetween a McDonald's and the nearest car park, probably for that reason.
What happened however, was just lots of families carrying their McD boxes walking by, stopping and laughing at the people working out inside.
Everyone inside found it equally amusing.

I've been confused about the gas people too. I go through Oregon regularly and I'm never sure if I'm supposed to tip the gas guys. I mean, I didn't need them in the first place, right?

I am absolutely sure about there being no sales tax. So shopping is completed in an appropriate manner.

I haven't been to McDonald's in years. One of my wastrel stepsisters worked in the closest one for a long time and the habit of avoiding stuck.

Maladict - where are you from?

Quote from: Maladict on October 11, 2016, 02:54:43 PM

Quote from: The Larch on October 11, 2016, 02:42:18 PM
Or we are simply not their intended audience.

My old gym was located inbetween a McDonald's and the nearest car park, probably for that reason.
What happened however, was just lots of families carrying their McD boxes walking by, stopping and laughing at the people working out inside.
Everyone inside found it equally amusing.

"I like to hang out in front of gym windows, and slooowly eat McD's right in the faces of those working out inside ... "  :D

If I'm gonna have a burger from a fast food place, I vastly prefer Wendy's to McDonalds.  If I have to eat anything but breakfast at a McDonalds, I stick to a fish sandwich and/or fries, or maybe a salad.  Their breakfast is OK, but I rarely eat breakfast out.

Quote from: Barrister on October 11, 2016, 02:59:09 PM
Maladict - where are you from?

Sorry, forgot to answer. You were right, The Netherlands.

Quote from: dps on October 11, 2016, 03:35:44 PM
If I'm gonna have a burger from a fast food place, I vastly prefer Wendy's to McDonalds.  If I have to eat anything but breakfast at a McDonalds, I stick to a fish sandwich and/or fries, or maybe a salad.  Their breakfast is OK, but I rarely eat breakfast out.

Even the fish is about half the size it was when I was a kid.

You ever notice over the last 30 years or so the fries and the drinks get bigger while the burgers get thinner and smaller?

And who the fuck eats cheese on fish? Yuk.

Quote from: Ed Anger on October 11, 2016, 04:22:37 PM
And who the fuck eats cheese on fish? Yuk.

What - suddenly you're keeping kosher now?

Quote from: Barrister on October 11, 2016, 04:36:48 PM

Quote from: Ed Anger on October 11, 2016, 04:22:37 PM
And who the fuck eats cheese on fish? Yuk.

What - suddenly you're keeping kosher now?

Maybe. You gotta a problem with God's laws?

Quote from: Valmy on October 11, 2016, 01:17:13 PM
Maybe McDonalds is just overpriced.

McDonald's has a full kitchen while subway just has 2 people making sandwiches.

Quote from: Ed Anger on October 11, 2016, 04:38:39 PM

Quote from: Barrister on October 11, 2016, 04:36:48 PM

Quote from: Ed Anger on October 11, 2016, 04:22:37 PM
And who the fuck eats cheese on fish? Yuk.

What - suddenly you're keeping kosher now?

Maybe. You gotta a problem with God's laws?

Just seemed an odd connection for a man with a Hitler fetish, is all. -_-

Once a month maybe. However, my 11yo has never been.

dammit, now I want McDonalds.

Go get a Mac.

Quote from: Ed Anger on October 11, 2016, 09:30:38 AM
Tamas just selects BEETS. Easy!

Press <+> to Supersize Your Order To:  MOAR BEETS

Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 11, 2016, 07:09:02 PM

Quote from: Ed Anger on October 11, 2016, 09:30:38 AM
Tamas just selects BEETS. Easy!

Press <+> to Supersize Your Order To:  MOAR BEETS

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i will have the Grande Beet platter

Haven't had Mcdonalds food since I was a teenager.

I gave the dude a buck the one or two times I had my gas pumped in Jersey.

Quote from: Valmy on October 11, 2016, 01:48:15 PM
Authentic Mexican food is not as good so I find that annoying indeed :angry:

Speaking of which I tracked down my favorite taco truck last Saturday:

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"Dance, boy.  Dance!"

Quote from: Ed Anger on October 11, 2016, 04:22:37 PM
And who the fuck eats cheese on fish? Yuk.

Not me.  They leave it off if you order it that way.  At least if they don't screw up.

And when they do screw up, you might get something other than a fish sandwich anyway.

Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 11, 2016, 10:11:14 PM
"Dance, boy.  Dance!"

More like "Here, take more of my money!"

Quote from: derspiess on October 11, 2016, 10:27:31 PM
More like "Here, take more of my money!"

I will admit the quality of the food truck genre has grown exponentially since the roach coach model of 20 years ago.

Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 11, 2016, 10:29:54 PM

Quote from: derspiess on October 11, 2016, 10:27:31 PM
More like "Here, take more of my money!"

I will admit the quality of the food truck genre has grown exponentially since the roach coach model of 20 years ago.

Lord, those crappy trucks that would show up in front of my high school...

Those fancy hipster food trucks are expensive as hell.
Whoever came up with that idea. .... damn

Quote from: Tyr on October 12, 2016, 01:31:36 AM
Those fancy hipster food trucks are expensive as hell.
Whoever came up with that idea. .... damn

We have a food truck fair twice a year - you pay 5-6 bucks admittance, and it comes with no freebies, samples or anything. <_<

Quote from: Maladict on October 11, 2016, 12:15:27 PM

Quote from: Barrister on October 11, 2016, 11:46:35 AM

Quote from: Valmy on October 11, 2016, 11:39:19 AM


I find it strange that McDonalds is such a symbol of America abroad. It is no more a patriotic symbol than any other fast food restaurant is stateside. So I always found it bizarre angry foreigners were show their hatred of us by trashing a McDonalds, also with it being a franchise owned and staffed entirely by locals and all.

Specially when McDonalds goes to such lengths to localize their menus all around the world.

I just had a look but there's nothing in there I'd consider local. And if there is it's probably some Disneyfied abortion trying to resemble something 'local' as described by tourist guides.  :P

I kind of get the hatred. It's probably unfair to single out McDonald's but they just happen to be the symbol of everything that's wrong about fast food chains.

McKroket? ;-)

In celebration of Octoberfest, McD Austria currently has its Emmentaler hearts (breaded, deep fried cheese), and a Brezel Burger with bacon, deep fried Emmentaler cheese, fried onions and pepper sauce between lye bread (same dough as Octoberfest pretzels).

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Whereas BK's Octoberfest menu has an Onion BBQ Whopper, Beer BBQ Steakhouse Burger (with beer bbq sauce), and a pulled pork sandwich (it seems every other place these days, from corner shops to BK and Subway have started offering pulled pork recently; I can even buy it in my local supermarket ... it was not a thing a year or two ago).

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I feel the urge to withdraw a bit further from popular culture.  :mellow:

I feel the urge to get some onion rings.

Quote from: Tyr on October 12, 2016, 01:31:36 AM
Those fancy hipster food trucks are expensive as hell.
Whoever came up with that idea. .... damn

Leather Lane Market has dozens of them every week, with queues right down the street. It's all pretty awesome, to be fair.

American fast food advertised in German is kinda creepy. :unsure:

I just enjoyed a burrito with chicken fried in red wine, extra guacamole, and a fiery salsa of tomato, capers and olives. I'm not sure how many cultures I have appropriated by doing so.

Quote from: Tyr on October 12, 2016, 01:31:36 AM
Those fancy hipster food trucks are expensive as hell.
Whoever came up with that idea. .... damn

I've heard what some of these dudes pull in by setting up at just 3 events a week.  I mean, you're working your ass off when you're working and there's no guarantee what business will be like next week, month, or year.  But shit, get it while you can.

I've been talking to my brother in law about him coming up here and having an empanada truck.  People around here are starting to learn what they are.

These trucks are becoming increasingly popular over here in fairs and such. I always thought it must be a tough livelihood - it doesn't seem a stable business, so I guess they need those margins. Food is certainly better than your usual fair grub, though.

Most of the now 30+ breweries here do not have food licenses for their taprooms so they invite food truck or two to set up in their parking lot.  At a couple breweries they've become so popular they rent out a space in the brewery to set up a small kitchen.