Another example of "Liberal" hypocrisy:
http://languish.org/forums/index.php/topic,14061.msg988820.html#msg988820
Why was he banned?
Quote from: The Brain on June 22, 2016, 02:36:27 PM
Why was he banned?
the liberals don't want you to know :ph34r:
How longs the vacation this time?
Well I'm a liberal and I'd like to claim, how come I don't ever get banned? Gay Polish lawyers get all the luck. :mad:
Quote from: The Brain on June 22, 2016, 02:42:30 PM
I'm glad you feel like a big man. :)
And I in turn am pleased that you are glad :)
You seem to be easily riled these days Jacob.
Quote from: Legbiter on June 22, 2016, 02:53:04 PM
You seem to be easily riled these days Jacob.
Well that, and I finally figured out where the ban button is.
We will now witness the destructive power of a fully armed and operational mod.
Funny how much shorter his leash is now that he's not a lefty.
Quote from: derspiess on June 22, 2016, 03:19:50 PM
Funny how much shorter his leash is now that he's not a lefty.
Yes :lol:
... though didn't he have a year long ban back then?
... and the whole "back alley" incident happened during his "lefty" phase too.
I dunno. Maybe it's not that funny :(
Quote from: derspiess on June 22, 2016, 03:19:50 PM
Funny how much shorter his leash is now that he's not a lefty.
Ironic also because Jacob basically wrote the book on milking Marti for lulz in his Witchfinder-General SJW 2015 incarnation. :D
Quote from: derspiess on June 22, 2016, 03:19:50 PM
Funny how much shorter his leash is now that he's not a lefty.
Yeah he had to encourage Raz to kill himself back then.
But to be fair that one was a really long ban. So quantity vs. quality.
Quote from: Jacob on June 22, 2016, 03:21:59 PM
... and the whole "back alley" incident happened during his "lefty" phase too.
Now now that was all in good fun.
It is just too bad Spicey wasn't there to whine and cry and feel victimized by it. Fireblade played that role at the time.
Quote from: Jacob on June 22, 2016, 03:21:59 PM
... and the whole "back alley" incident happened during his "lefty" phase too.
I thought he didn't do anal.
Quote from: Legbiter on June 22, 2016, 03:24:07 PM
Quote from: derspiess on June 22, 2016, 03:19:50 PM
Funny how much shorter his leash is now that he's not a lefty.
Ironic also because Jacob basically wrote the book on milking Marti for lulz in his Witchfinder-General SJW 2015 incarnation. :D
First I wrote a book. Now I'm leading the community in building a monument to Marti with this thread. That's a lot of creative effort and attention being lavished on the fellow.
I'm really sad I missed the SJW phase :(
Quote from: Sheilbh on June 22, 2016, 03:33:32 PM
I'm really sad I missed the SJW phase :(
You didn't miss it.
Quote from: Sheilbh on June 22, 2016, 03:33:32 PM
I'm really sad I missed the SJW phase :(
It was glorious, the highlight for me was when Marti reported AmScip's Facebook buddies for Thoughtcrime to Languish. ^_^
Quote from: Jacob on June 22, 2016, 02:32:42 PM
Another example of "Liberal" hypocrisy:
http://languish.org/forums/index.php/topic,14061.msg988820.html#msg988820
so, will you unban him tomorrow morning like every fucking last 100 times you guys banned him?
I sorta like this kind and sensitive person aggressive Jacob.
I just like saying kind and sensitive person.
kind and sensitive person.kind and sensitive person.kind and sensitive person.kind and sensitive person.kind and sensitive person.
Like living on a poultry farm.
What did Marty do now?
Quote from: derspiess on June 22, 2016, 03:19:50 PM
Funny how much shorter his leash is now that he's not a lefty.
You'd prefer his Matthew Shepard Martyrdom phase again?
Quote from: 11B4V on June 22, 2016, 08:11:49 PM
What did Marty do now?
Felony pissy faggotry
Felony Alt Reich parroting
Felony being a Polack
well, I hope marti isn't discouraged by the frequent bans :(
Quote from: LaCroix on June 22, 2016, 08:17:07 PM
well, I hope marti isn't discouraged by the frequent bans :(
kind and sensitive person.
We don't complain because we are tired.
Quote from: Grey Fox on June 22, 2016, 09:22:26 PM
We don't complain because we are tired.
Or maybe we take ourselves too seriously.
I find the pro-Milo. pro-Trump Marty as tiresome as others, but I really don't see anything he did that was deserving of a ban Jacob.
He only has himself to blame, awaking the mods again and he made them remember their powers.
:cthulu:
I still don't know who Milo is or even if I should bother to know who that is. :hmm:
Quote from: Barrister on June 22, 2016, 11:58:23 PM
I find the pro-Milo. pro-Trump Marty as tiresome as others, but I really don't see anything he did that was deserving of a ban Jacob.
It seems Martinus is getting banned for being annoying and tiresome, not for anything special (excluding the encouragement of raz to kill himself, which was an exceptional episode). Maybe rather than random bannings his account could be put on a governor, such as no more than 7 posts a day? That way any annoyances he brings could be reduced to a manageable level, and we can still keep up to date on what Milo thinks.
With no Marty to hate, we may turn on each other
Quote from: Gups on June 23, 2016, 07:54:10 AM
With no Marty to hate, we may turn on each other
I think we managed to survive during the back alley days.
Quote from: alfred russel on June 23, 2016, 07:47:48 AM
It seems Martinus is getting banned for being annoying and tiresome, not for anything special (excluding the encouragement of raz to kill himself, which was an exceptional episode).
I think the worst thing he did in that post was getting personal on Jake. The point about homosex being punishable by death is entirely non-controversial. I mean you can hardly blame him for feeling strongly about the fact that there are places in the world where it is illegal for him to not be murdered.
I figured his sin was calling Jake a 'kind and sensitive person'
Quote from: Valmy on June 23, 2016, 09:38:12 AM
I figured his sin was calling Jake a 'kind and sensitive person'
We get pretty rude and personal here at times, but there are lines, and there should be lines.
Quote from: Valmy on June 23, 2016, 09:38:12 AM
I figured his sin was calling Jake a 'kind and sensitive person'
I thought "kind and sensitive person" was suppose to refer to other right wingers, the idea being they are so weak they let blacks fuck their wives.
Quote from: Razgovory on June 23, 2016, 10:31:27 AM
Quote from: Valmy on June 23, 2016, 09:38:12 AM
I figured his sin was calling Jake a 'kind and sensitive person'
I thought "kind and sensitive person" was suppose to refer to other right wingers, the idea being they are so weak they let blacks fuck their wives.
When Marty gets back you can explain that to him.
Quote from: Valmy on June 23, 2016, 09:38:12 AM
I figured his sin was calling Jake a 'kind and sensitive person'
I always thought it was amusing that the go-to insult for a single gay guy was that of contempt for those who transgress the traditional taboos concerning heterosexual marital fidelity. ;)
And a taboo so traditional and archaic it requires a dictionary for most people to understand what it refers to.
Trumpers as Iago :mellow:
Hopefully, one day, Languish will be a place where Martinus doesn't get banned once a week.
Quote from: Sheilbh on June 23, 2016, 12:46:31 PM
Trumpers as Iago :mellow:
That reminds me that I want to get tickets to go to see that new production of the Taming of the Shrew.
Quote from: Valmy on June 23, 2016, 12:29:54 PM
And a taboo so traditional and archaic it requires a dictionary for most people to understand what it refers to.
That's not much of a test. Most people need a dictionary to understand what most any word with more than two syllables, and a good chunk of the one- and two-syllable words, refers to.
Quote from: Valmy on June 23, 2016, 10:34:20 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on June 23, 2016, 10:31:27 AM
Quote from: Valmy on June 23, 2016, 09:38:12 AM
I figured his sin was calling Jake a 'kind and sensitive person'
I thought "kind and sensitive person" was suppose to refer to other right wingers, the idea being they are so weak they let blacks fuck their wives.
When Marty gets back you can explain that to him.
Man, it took me years to get him to understand when the Bronze age ended.
Quote from: Razgovory on June 23, 2016, 04:58:35 PM
Quote from: Valmy on June 23, 2016, 10:34:20 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on June 23, 2016, 10:31:27 AM
Quote from: Valmy on June 23, 2016, 09:38:12 AM
I figured his sin was calling Jake a 'kind and sensitive person'
I thought "kind and sensitive person" was suppose to refer to other right wingers, the idea being they are so weak they let blacks fuck their wives.
When Marty gets back you can explain that to him.
Man, it took me years to get him to understand when the Bronze age ended.
Well, to be fair, it might not have ended yet where he lives.
Quote from: DGuller on June 23, 2016, 12:51:17 PM
Hopefully, one day, Languish will be a place where Martinus doesn't get banned once a week.
A place where the village idiot gets to run amok? How could that possibly backfire? :rolleyes:
As the probable runner-up contender for the title of "village idiot," the fact that he practices law, let alone internationally, amazes me.
it's pretty silly to argue that internet posts indicate whether one has a successful career
Quote from: LaCroix on June 23, 2016, 09:10:47 PM
it's pretty silly to argue that internet posts indicate whether one has a successful career
Given the duration and consistency of his schtick, and the nature of his supposed career, that would be him being so prolific at trolling as to put Jaron and Fireblade to shame.
Quote from: DontSayBanana on June 23, 2016, 09:15:35 PM
Quote from: LaCroix on June 23, 2016, 09:10:47 PM
it's pretty silly to argue that internet posts indicate whether one has a successful career
Given the duration and consistency of his schtick, and the nature of his supposed career, that would be him being so prolific at trolling as to put Jaron and Fireblade to shame.
I'm not a troll. I speak the truth, you fucking kind and sensitive person.
Quote from: DontSayBanana on June 23, 2016, 09:15:35 PM
Quote from: LaCroix on June 23, 2016, 09:10:47 PM
it's pretty silly to argue that internet posts indicate whether one has a successful career
Given the duration and consistency of his schtick, and the nature of his supposed career, that would be him being so prolific at trolling as to put Jaron and Fireblade to shame.
His job is legit. I mean, the law firm has a photo of him on their web page. I suspect he is some kind of idiot savant.
Quote from: DontSayBanana on June 23, 2016, 08:54:01 PM
Quote from: DGuller on June 23, 2016, 12:51:17 PM
Hopefully, one day, Languish will be a place where Martinus doesn't get banned once a week.
A place where the village idiot gets to run amok? How could that possibly backfire? :rolleyes:
:secret:
Quote from: Razgovory on June 23, 2016, 10:53:11 PM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on June 23, 2016, 09:15:35 PM
Quote from: LaCroix on June 23, 2016, 09:10:47 PM
it's pretty silly to argue that internet posts indicate whether one has a successful career
Given the duration and consistency of his schtick, and the nature of his supposed career, that would be him being so prolific at trolling as to put Jaron and Fireblade to shame.
His job is legit. I mean, the law firm has a photo of him on their web page. I suspect he is some kind of idiot savant.
He's an excellent lawyer.
Martinus is insanely rich.
Quote from: Monoriu on June 24, 2016, 03:59:44 AM
Martinus is insanely rich.
Perhaps by Polish standards.
Lol Polack rich.
Quote from: Barrister on June 22, 2016, 11:58:23 PM
I find the pro-Milo. pro-Trump Marty as tiresome as others, but I really don't see anything he did that was deserving of a ban Jacob.
yeah, it's no worst than the insults Jacob flung at right-wingers during the last electoral campaign.
Quote from: Razgovory on June 23, 2016, 10:53:11 PM
His job is legit. I mean, the law firm has a photo of him on their web page. I suspect he is some kind of idiot savant.
Stalker much?
Then your definition of insanely rich is vastly different from mine...
Less than insanely, but pretty fucking rich.
We need Marty unbanned so he can triumphant troll the Brexit thread; thus keep us Brits amused and distracted from the temple falling about our ears. :bowler:
When is he amusing? :unsure:
Now I sorta want to know Mart's salary. Dammit Mono!
Quote from: PRC on June 24, 2016, 02:46:31 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on June 23, 2016, 10:53:11 PM
His job is legit. I mean, the law firm has a photo of him on their web page. I suspect he is some kind of idiot savant.
Stalker much?
I have my files.
Quote from: Razgovory on June 24, 2016, 07:00:26 PM
Quote from: PRC on June 24, 2016, 02:46:31 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on June 23, 2016, 10:53:11 PM
His job is legit. I mean, the law firm has a photo of him on their web page. I suspect he is some kind of idiot savant.
Stalker much?
I have my files.
and they ban Marty :lol:
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 24, 2016, 06:34:34 PM
Now I sorta want to know Mart's salary. Dammit Mono!
It is in the back alley. The information is a few years old. I can only assume that it has increased substantially since then. Call it whatever you want, he is in the "I'm winning at life" group.
BREAKING NEWS
Marty is talking to me on facebook now. He is disavowing Trump and the alt-right. Apparently seeing what happens when fascists actually get what they want (Brexit) and the personal effects on him (he lost a shit ton of money lol) changed his mind.
Unfortunately, he's still a kind and sensitive person faggot who likes to suck on toes.
Quote from: Monoriu on June 25, 2016, 02:30:35 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 24, 2016, 06:34:34 PM
Now I sorta want to know Mart's salary. Dammit Mono!
It is in the back alley. The information is a few years old. I can only assume that it has increased substantially since then. Call it whatever you want, he is in the "I'm winning at life" group.
Is money the sole metric for that?
Quote from: garbon on June 25, 2016, 04:15:18 AM
Quote from: Monoriu on June 25, 2016, 02:30:35 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 24, 2016, 06:34:34 PM
Now I sorta want to know Mart's salary. Dammit Mono!
It is in the back alley. The information is a few years old. I can only assume that it has increased substantially since then. Call it whatever you want, he is in the "I'm winning at life" group.
Is money the sole metric for that?
:console:
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 24, 2016, 06:34:34 PM
Now I sorta want to know Mart's salary. Dammit Mono!
About 230K
Rich people don't have salaries. :P
Quote from: Fireblade on June 25, 2016, 03:16:16 AM
BREAKING NEWS
Marty is talking to me on facebook now. He is disavowing Trump and the alt-right. Apparently seeing what happens when fascists actually get what they want (Brexit) and the personal effects on him (he lost a shit ton of money lol) changed his mind.
We need to hear what that guy on HBO has to say about the Brexit vote before we are sure what Marti thinks.
Quote from: Razgovory on June 25, 2016, 07:20:38 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 24, 2016, 06:34:34 PM
Now I sorta want to know Mart's salary. Dammit Mono!
About 230K
About the going rate for a junior lawyer slogging away on due diligence while the lawyers responsible for the matter negotiate the structure and details of the deal. He has probably moved up the pecking order a bit since then.
Quote from: crazy canuck on June 25, 2016, 08:13:09 AMAbout the going rate for a junior lawyer slogging away on due diligence while the lawyers responsible for the matter negotiate the structure and details of the deal. He has probably moved up the pecking order a bit since then.
:yes:
are all the languish lawyers either criminal or transaction? no civil litigation? :hmm:
Free Martinus.
Quote from: Razgovory on June 25, 2016, 07:20:38 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 24, 2016, 06:34:34 PM
Now I sorta want to know Mart's salary. Dammit Mono!
About 230K
Yeah, that's doing well, but it's not insanely rich. Though I suppose 230K American buys more in Poland than it would in the West.
Quote from: crazy canuck on June 25, 2016, 08:09:42 AM
We need to hear what that guy on HBO has to say about the Brexit vote before we are sure what Marti thinks.
Which guy? Bill Maher? John Oliver? Tony Soprano?
Bill's input:
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/bill-maher-michael-steele-defending-trump
Quote from: LaCroix on June 25, 2016, 08:54:16 AM
are all the languish lawyers either criminal or transaction? no civil litigation? :hmm:
Most of us practice in other areas. And at least three of us do civil litigation.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 25, 2016, 11:33:53 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on June 25, 2016, 08:09:42 AM
We need to hear what that guy on HBO has to say about the Brexit vote before we are sure what Marti thinks.
Which guy? Bill Maher? John Oliver? Tony Soprano?
Bill's input:
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/bill-maher-michael-steele-defending-trump
Hard to say. But lately it seems Maher is his muse.
Quote from: crazy canuck on June 25, 2016, 08:13:09 AM
About the going rate for a junior lawyer slogging away on due diligence while the lawyers responsible for the matter negotiate the structure and details of the deal. He has probably moved up the pecking order a bit since then.
So who gives a filthy shit rat fuck. Regardless of his income and position, as an attorney in Murders & Acquisitions he actively works towards, and directly profits from, the destruction of other human beings; therefore, he possesses absolutely zero credibility when it comes to his little moral outrages. Whether it's faggots or endangered species, it's all rendered null and void by the hypocrisy he chooses to live by.
Quote from: crazy canuck on June 25, 2016, 08:13:09 AM
About the going rate for a junior lawyer slogging away on due diligence while the lawyers responsible for the matter negotiate the structure and details of the deal. He has probably moved up the pecking order a bit since then.
God, you people are so ripe for replacement with machine learning.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 25, 2016, 12:15:06 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on June 25, 2016, 08:13:09 AM
About the going rate for a junior lawyer slogging away on due diligence while the lawyers responsible for the matter negotiate the structure and details of the deal. He has probably moved up the pecking order a bit since then.
So who gives a filthy shit rat fuck. Regardless of his income and position, as an attorney in Murders & Acquisitions he actively works towards, and directly profits from, the destruction of other human beings; therefore, he possesses absolutely zero credibility when it comes to his little moral outrages. Whether it's faggots or endangered species, it's all rendered null and void by the hypocrisy he chooses to live by.
/mono/ but most importantly it turns out he is not insanely rich /mono/
Quote from: Hamilcar on June 25, 2016, 12:38:26 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on June 25, 2016, 08:13:09 AM
About the going rate for a junior lawyer slogging away on due diligence while the lawyers responsible for the matter negotiate the structure and details of the deal. He has probably moved up the pecking order a bit since then.
God, you people are so ripe for replacement with machine learning.
fyp
Quote from: crazy canuck on June 25, 2016, 12:48:20 PM
Quote from: Hamilcar on June 25, 2016, 12:38:26 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on June 25, 2016, 08:13:09 AM
About the going rate for a junior lawyer slogging away on due diligence while the lawyers responsible for the matter negotiate the structure and details of the deal. He has probably moved up the pecking order a bit since then.
God, you people are so ripe for replacement with machine learning.
fyp
I'm working on it. :ph34r:
Quote from: crazy canuck on June 25, 2016, 12:47:09 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 25, 2016, 12:15:06 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on June 25, 2016, 08:13:09 AM
About the going rate for a junior lawyer slogging away on due diligence while the lawyers responsible for the matter negotiate the structure and details of the deal. He has probably moved up the pecking order a bit since then.
So who gives a filthy shit rat fuck. Regardless of his income and position, as an attorney in Murders & Acquisitions he actively works towards, and directly profits from, the destruction of other human beings; therefore, he possesses absolutely zero credibility when it comes to his little moral outrages. Whether it's faggots or endangered species, it's all rendered null and void by the hypocrisy he chooses to live by.
/mono/ but most importantly it turns out he is not insanely rich /mono/
I am loathe to talk about him but why are we relying on Raz evidence when we actually have the figure that Martinus told us himself?
Quote from: crazy canuck on June 25, 2016, 08:13:09 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on June 25, 2016, 07:20:38 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 24, 2016, 06:34:34 PM
Now I sorta want to know Mart's salary. Dammit Mono!
About 230K
About the going rate for a junior lawyer slogging away on due diligence while the lawyers responsible for the matter negotiate the structure and details of the deal. He has probably moved up the pecking order a bit since then.
Well he's is in Poland.
Quote from: garbon on June 25, 2016, 12:55:28 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on June 25, 2016, 12:47:09 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 25, 2016, 12:15:06 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on June 25, 2016, 08:13:09 AM
About the going rate for a junior lawyer slogging away on due diligence while the lawyers responsible for the matter negotiate the structure and details of the deal. He has probably moved up the pecking order a bit since then.
So who gives a filthy shit rat fuck. Regardless of his income and position, as an attorney in Murders & Acquisitions he actively works towards, and directly profits from, the destruction of other human beings; therefore, he possesses absolutely zero credibility when it comes to his little moral outrages. Whether it's faggots or endangered species, it's all rendered null and void by the hypocrisy he chooses to live by.
/mono/ but most importantly it turns out he is not insanely rich /mono/
I am loathe to talk about him but why are we relying on Raz evidence when we actually have the figure that Martinus told us himself?
I dont care enough to look.
Quote from: crazy canuck on June 25, 2016, 02:49:00 PM
Quote from: garbon on June 25, 2016, 12:55:28 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on June 25, 2016, 12:47:09 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 25, 2016, 12:15:06 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on June 25, 2016, 08:13:09 AM
About the going rate for a junior lawyer slogging away on due diligence while the lawyers responsible for the matter negotiate the structure and details of the deal. He has probably moved up the pecking order a bit since then.
So who gives a filthy shit rat fuck. Regardless of his income and position, as an attorney in Murders & Acquisitions he actively works towards, and directly profits from, the destruction of other human beings; therefore, he possesses absolutely zero credibility when it comes to his little moral outrages. Whether it's faggots or endangered species, it's all rendered null and void by the hypocrisy he chooses to live by.
/mono/ but most importantly it turns out he is not insanely rich /mono/
I am loathe to talk about him but why are we relying on Raz evidence when we actually have the figure that Martinus told us himself?
I dont care enough to look.
Yeah instead you just spout off about things you don't actually know about. Well, I guess that's not much different from your usual mode. :mellow:
Quote from: crazy canuck on June 25, 2016, 11:49:50 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 25, 2016, 11:33:53 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on June 25, 2016, 08:09:42 AM
We need to hear what that guy on HBO has to say about the Brexit vote before we are sure what Marti thinks.
Which guy? Bill Maher? John Oliver? Tony Soprano?
Bill's input:
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/bill-maher-michael-steele-defending-trump (http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/bill-maher-michael-steele-defending-trump)
Hard to say. But lately it seems Maher is his muse.
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Ffl1LWQN.jpg&hash=1ef91ff47d0ccf3d6f5b671da43a55c2c0d684c3)
Quote from: garbon on June 25, 2016, 12:55:28 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on June 25, 2016, 12:47:09 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 25, 2016, 12:15:06 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on June 25, 2016, 08:13:09 AM
About the going rate for a junior lawyer slogging away on due diligence while the lawyers responsible for the matter negotiate the structure and details of the deal. He has probably moved up the pecking order a bit since then.
So who gives a filthy shit rat fuck. Regardless of his income and position, as an attorney in Murders & Acquisitions he actively works towards, and directly profits from, the destruction of other human beings; therefore, he possesses absolutely zero credibility when it comes to his little moral outrages. Whether it's faggots or endangered species, it's all rendered null and void by the hypocrisy he chooses to live by.
/mono/ but most importantly it turns out he is not insanely rich /mono/
I am loathe to talk about him but why are we relying on Raz evidence when we actually have the figure that Martinus told us himself?
Because Marty evidence is even worse. :contract: Now it my stuff may be off, but I think it's fairly close.
Quote from: garbon on June 25, 2016, 02:54:59 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on June 25, 2016, 02:49:00 PM
Quote from: garbon on June 25, 2016, 12:55:28 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on June 25, 2016, 12:47:09 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 25, 2016, 12:15:06 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on June 25, 2016, 08:13:09 AM
About the going rate for a junior lawyer slogging away on due diligence while the lawyers responsible for the matter negotiate the structure and details of the deal. He has probably moved up the pecking order a bit since then.
So who gives a filthy shit rat fuck. Regardless of his income and position, as an attorney in Murders & Acquisitions he actively works towards, and directly profits from, the destruction of other human beings; therefore, he possesses absolutely zero credibility when it comes to his little moral outrages. Whether it's faggots or endangered species, it's all rendered null and void by the hypocrisy he chooses to live by.
/mono/ but most importantly it turns out he is not insanely rich /mono/
I am loathe to talk about him but why are we relying on Raz evidence when we actually have the figure that Martinus told us himself?
I dont care enough to look.
Yeah instead you just spout off about things you don't actually know about. Well, I guess that's not much different from your usual mode. :mellow:
:huh:
Im pretty sure I know about lawyers compensation.
Not sure what has you in such a snit
Your usual mode?
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 25, 2016, 12:15:06 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on June 25, 2016, 08:13:09 AM
About the going rate for a junior lawyer slogging away on due diligence while the lawyers responsible for the matter negotiate the structure and details of the deal. He has probably moved up the pecking order a bit since then.
So who gives a filthy shit rat fuck. Regardless of his income and position, as an attorney in Murders & Acquisitions he actively works towards, and directly profits from, the destruction of other human beings; therefore, he possesses absolutely zero credibility when it comes to his little moral outrages. Whether it's faggots or endangered species, it's all rendered null and void by the hypocrisy he chooses to live by.
Don't worry, his life expectancy is substantially shorter then yours.
You guys obsess about Marty a little to much. :huh:
Quote from: 11B4V on June 25, 2016, 10:50:29 PM
You guys obsess about Marty a little to much. :huh:
I am just jealous.
Quote from: Monoriu on June 25, 2016, 10:55:43 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on June 25, 2016, 10:50:29 PM
You guys obsess about Marty a little to much. :huh:
I am just jealous.
Seedy appears the most odsessed.
Quote from: 11B4V on June 25, 2016, 10:57:25 PM
Seedy appears the most odsessed.
He has understandable reasons to dislike M&A people :ph34r:
Quote from: 11B4V on June 25, 2016, 10:57:25 PM
Seedy appears the most odsessed.
I didn't start the fucking thread. Hell, I didn't even ban him.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 25, 2016, 11:00:31 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on June 25, 2016, 10:57:25 PM
Seedy appears the most odsessed.
I didn't start the fucking thread. Hell, I didn't even ban him.
:lol:
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 25, 2016, 11:00:31 PM
Hell, I didn't even ban him.
but you thought of it. That's half the crime! :P
Quote from: Razgovory on June 25, 2016, 03:24:57 PM
Quote from: garbon on June 25, 2016, 12:55:28 PM
I am loathe to talk about him but why are we relying on Raz evidence when we actually have the figure that Martinus told us himself?
Because Marty evidence is even worse. :contract:
Yeah, why should I take time to look up what Marti actually posted about his income when I don't know whether or not what he posted is true anyway? Heck, I could post that I make $230K a year; it wouldn't be remotely true, but I could post it. I mean, I assume he just stated in a post that that was his income, and didn't actually post a copy of his income tax return. Not that you couldn't post a shot of a fake tax return, anyway.
Quote from: Fireblade on June 25, 2016, 03:16:16 AM
BREAKING NEWS
Marty is talking to me on facebook now. He is disavowing Trump and the alt-right. Apparently seeing what happens when fascists actually get what they want (Brexit) and the personal effects on him (he lost a shit ton of money lol) changed his mind.
Unfortunately, he's still a kind and sensitive person faggot who likes to suck on toes.
(https://scontent-yyz1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/p960x960/13498029_10154134073116163_9065193922149104914_o.jpg)
I guess I understand the change of heart...
Quote from: crazy canuck on June 26, 2016, 09:52:07 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 25, 2016, 11:00:31 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on June 25, 2016, 10:57:25 PM
Seedy appears the most odsessed.
Hell, I didn't even ban him.
There was your first mistake
Fuck you. For years, everybody bitched about Mean Old Farmer CdM, beating up everybody and bludgeoning their children with Hot Wheels tracks. Well fuck you, it's festival seating for all assholes here. Ungrateful cunt.
You stupid fucking assmonkey dickfucks wouldn't let me do shit about Timmay retarding up the forum with his safety scissors and circles of paper, then the rest is on you.
Quote from: crazy canuck on June 25, 2016, 08:30:10 PM
:huh:
Im pretty sure I know about lawyers compensation.
Not sure what has you in such a snit
Your usual mode?
I generally think if you are going to put someone down (i.e. you on Martinus), you should actually try working from factual evidence.
Also, I'll point out that you're the one who got snotty first.
Quote from: garbon on June 26, 2016, 11:59:25 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on June 25, 2016, 08:30:10 PM
:huh:
Im pretty sure I know about lawyers compensation.
Not sure what has you in such a snit
Your usual mode?
I generally think if you are going to put someone down (i.e. you on Martinus), you should actually try working from factual evidence.
Also, I'll point out that you're the one who got snotty first.
I was putting him down? Do you have any idea how a law firm like his works?
You may be reading my posts assuming your own voice ;)
I thought the 230k was the number marti said. if marti said a higher number, then a higher number makes sense if he's worked at this firm for five-six years and he receives standard biglaw compensation. $230k is like a two/three-year biglaw associate.
Quote from: garbon on June 26, 2016, 11:59:25 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on June 25, 2016, 08:30:10 PM
:huh:
Im pretty sure I know about lawyers compensation.
Not sure what has you in such a snit
Your usual mode?
I generally think if you are going to put someone down (i.e. you on Martinus),
I don't get it.
So this weekend, did you guys finally work out how much Marty earns and therefore what sort of person he is?
He's probably heterosexual as well, the lying bastard.
Quote from: mongers on June 26, 2016, 01:20:00 PM
So this weekend, did you guys finally work out how much Marty earns and therefore what sort of person he is?
Pretty sure we figured out what sort of person he is a very long time ago.
Quote from: LaCroix on June 26, 2016, 12:52:45 PM
I thought the 230k was the number marti said. if marti said a higher number, then a higher number makes sense if he's worked at this firm for five-six years and he receives standard biglaw compensation. $230k is like a two/three-year biglaw associate.
Yep, which is why mention was made that he has probably progressed since then. :)
Well it wasn't the number even back then.
all depends on where marti was at back then, career-wise. plus, the original figure may have included bonuses, etc. unless marti gave a 400k figure as a first-year or second associate, I'm inclined to believe him. if you're making 200k+, there's little reason to lie that you're making more.
Quote from: LaCroix on June 26, 2016, 03:52:46 PM
all depends on where marti was at back then, career-wise. plus, the original figure may have included bonuses, etc. unless marti gave a 400k figure as a first-year or second associate, I'm inclined to believe him. if you're making 200k+, there's little reason to lie that you're making more.
:yes:
especially for a junior lawyer, which Marti was.
I suspect its just that Garbon doesn't understand that in a commercial deal a lawyer of Marti's seniority does the due diligence and the senior lawyers structure the deal. Although Marti may be seeing more of that side of things now.
One of you knobs unbann him. He isn't that bad. :rolleyes:
Quote from: crazy canuck on June 26, 2016, 03:54:26 PM
Quote from: LaCroix on June 26, 2016, 03:52:46 PM
all depends on where marti was at back then, career-wise. plus, the original figure may have included bonuses, etc. unless marti gave a 400k figure as a first-year or second associate, I'm inclined to believe him. if you're making 200k+, there's little reason to lie that you're making more.
:yes:
especially for a junior lawyer, which Marti was.
I suspect its just that Garbon doesn't understand that in a commercial deal a lawyer of Marti's seniority does the due diligence and the senior lawyers structure the deal. Although Marti may be seeing more of that side of things now.
I don't actually care what his position is.
Quote from: 11B4V on June 26, 2016, 04:12:25 PM
One of you knobs unbann him. He isn't that bad. :rolleyes:
Did Jake ban him permanently for that? Surely that was a few days at most.
Quote from: Valmy on June 26, 2016, 05:27:47 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on June 26, 2016, 04:12:25 PM
One of you knobs unbann him. He isn't that bad. :rolleyes:
Did Jake ban him permanently for that? Surely that was a few days at most.
What did he do?
Quote from: garbon on June 26, 2016, 04:21:35 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on June 26, 2016, 03:54:26 PM
Quote from: LaCroix on June 26, 2016, 03:52:46 PM
all depends on where marti was at back then, career-wise. plus, the original figure may have included bonuses, etc. unless marti gave a 400k figure as a first-year or second associate, I'm inclined to believe him. if you're making 200k+, there's little reason to lie that you're making more.
:yes:
especially for a junior lawyer, which Marti was.
I suspect its just that Garbon doesn't understand that in a commercial deal a lawyer of Marti's seniority does the due diligence and the senior lawyers structure the deal. Although Marti may be seeing more of that side of things now.
I don't actually care what his position is.
Ok, I was giving you the benefit of the doubt for getting into a snit.
Ban him from here and the Languish Facebook groups. He reads our thread, he'll hate me for this, and I will be very deeply depressed for years to come, but I am willing to make that sacrifice for the common good.
Quote from: 11B4V on June 25, 2016, 10:50:29 PM
You guys obsess about Marty a little to much. :huh:
No shit. And that's just what he wants.
:lmfao: you people.
The only proper course here is for Martinus to be unbanned and for Jacob make a public apology to Martinus and possibly step down as mod. Languish is a crazy place and we need mods who help keep the flow of energy productive - we don't need cowboys who use their mod privileges as a means of slapping hardest.
Quote from: Jaron on June 26, 2016, 07:32:47 PM
The only proper course here is for Martinus to be unbanned and make a public apology to Martinus and possibly step down as mod. Languish is a crazy place and we need mods who help keep the flow of energy productive - we don't need cowboys who use their mod privileges as a means of slapping hardest.
Seconded.
We need a Sulla.
If we banned everyone who contributed as little as Marti to the intellectual discourse of Languish, Ed, Seedy, and Richard would complain so much about how ronery the forum was that Brazen would quit and leave them the only members.
I'm fascinating at least. I can entertain myself for hours.
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 26, 2016, 08:19:20 PM
I'm fascinating at least. I can entertain myself for hours.
I thought you were told to not ever touch that again?
I haven't been banned/suspended from a forum since probably 2007, it used to be a common occurrence :lol:
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on June 26, 2016, 08:22:29 PM
I haven't been banned/suspended from a forum since probably 2007, it used to be a common occurrence :lol:
Very Hansmeisterish back then. You had a kid, and chilled the fuck out.
Quote from: 11B4V on June 26, 2016, 05:31:04 PM
What did he do?
Called him a kind and sensitive person.
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 26, 2016, 08:19:20 PM
I'm fascinating at least. I can entertain myself for hours.
I'm afraid if I left Grumbler would get down and leave as well.
Is this turning into EUOT. :lol:
I know I've been away for 12 years or so, and the onus is on me to catch the fuck up, but what is the big deal about calling someone a kind and sensitive person?
There's porn for it and everything. So I've heard.
Quote from: 11B4V on June 26, 2016, 09:30:52 PM
Quote from: Valmy on June 26, 2016, 08:40:53 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on June 26, 2016, 05:31:04 PM
What did he do?
Called him a kind and sensitive person.
That's it. Are you kidding me.
think of it as the kind and sensitive person that broke the camels back.
Quote from: fromtia on June 27, 2016, 06:38:18 PM
I know I've been away for 12 years or so, and the onus is on me to catch the fuck up, but what is the big deal about calling someone a kind and sensitive person?
Seems to be a preferred insult of the alt right. I first saw it used by Legbiter referring to Germans who favored accepting refugees. Now has a strong association with Trump. Possibly because of some internet personality named Milo something, an alt right British poof of Greek extraction who is connected to Breitbart. I say possibly because I can only judge based on what Martinus reports.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 27, 2016, 07:00:08 PM
Quote from: fromtia on June 27, 2016, 06:38:18 PM
I know I've been away for 12 years or so, and the onus is on me to catch the fuck up, but what is the big deal about calling someone a kind and sensitive person?
Seems to be a preferred insult of the alt right. I first saw it used by Legbiter referring to Germans who favored accepting refugees. Now has a strong association with Trump. Possibly because of some internet personality named Milo something, an alt right British poof of Greek extraction who is connected to Breitbart. I say possibly because I can only judge based on what Martinus reports.
As I understand it, the trajectory of the term goes like this:
The Men's Rights Activists/ Pick Up Artist/ Red Pill community used it to describe the kind of Beta males who don't act assertive around women like Alpha males (that the MRA/ PUA/ Red Pill people aspire to be). So sure, they may be all nice to women and marry them and raise children and even make lots of money, but secretly their women are fucking the assertive jerky (some would say misogynist) Alpha males.
There's a fair bit of what you might call "an exchange of ideas" between the MRA/PUA/Red Pill crowd and the alt right, and it seems the terminology transferred; as the crowd went for Trump, so did the terminology.
Asoka.
Still lame to ban someone for it.
Quote from: fromtia on June 27, 2016, 06:38:18 PM
I know I've been away for 12 years or so, and the onus is on me to catch the fuck up, but what is the big deal about calling someone a kind and sensitive person?
There's porn for it and everything. So I've heard.
It's calling everyone a kind and sensitive person constantly, being a dick, getting banned 300 times, coming back on promise of good behavior and then insulting the mod responsible for bringing you back 295 times.
Quote from: viper37 on June 27, 2016, 08:01:42 PM
Quote from: fromtia on June 27, 2016, 06:38:18 PM
I know I've been away for 12 years or so, and the onus is on me to catch the fuck up, but what is the big deal about calling someone a kind and sensitive person?
There's porn for it and everything. So I've heard.
It's calling everyone a kind and sensitive person constantly, being a dick, getting banned 300 times, coming back on promise of good behavior and then insulting the mod responsible for bringing you back 295 times.
Are those hard numbers or soft ones.
Quote from: Jacob on June 27, 2016, 07:27:57 PM
As I understand it, the trajectory of the term goes like this:
The Men's Rights Activists/ Pick Up Artist/ Red Pill community used it to describe the kind of Beta males who don't act assertive around women like Alpha males (that the MRA/ PUA/ Red Pill people aspire to be). So sure, they may be all nice to women and marry them and raise children and even make lots of money, but secretly their women are fucking the assertive jerky (some would say misogynist) Alpha males.
There's a fair bit of what you might call "an exchange of ideas" between the MRA/PUA/Red Pill crowd and the alt right, and it seems the terminology transferred; as the crowd went for Trump, so did the terminology.
Wow. That's a shame what a way to ruin a perfectly pleasant adult past time and porn category and make it all....Breitbarty.
Quote from: 11B4V on June 27, 2016, 08:05:24 PM
Quote from: viper37 on June 27, 2016, 08:01:42 PM
Quote from: fromtia on June 27, 2016, 06:38:18 PM
I know I've been away for 12 years or so, and the onus is on me to catch the fuck up, but what is the big deal about calling someone a kind and sensitive person?
There's porn for it and everything. So I've heard.
It's calling everyone a kind and sensitive person constantly, being a dick, getting banned 300 times, coming back on promise of good behavior and then insulting the mod responsible for bringing you back 295 times.
Are those hard numbers or soft ones.
very soft. I lost track after the 104th time ;)
Quote from: Jacob on June 27, 2016, 07:27:57 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 27, 2016, 07:00:08 PM
Quote from: fromtia on June 27, 2016, 06:38:18 PM
I know I've been away for 12 years or so, and the onus is on me to catch the fuck up, but what is the big deal about calling someone a kind and sensitive person?
Seems to be a preferred insult of the alt right. I first saw it used by Legbiter referring to Germans who favored accepting refugees. Now has a strong association with Trump. Possibly because of some internet personality named Milo something, an alt right British poof of Greek extraction who is connected to Breitbart. I say possibly because I can only judge based on what Martinus reports.
As I understand it, the trajectory of the term goes like this:
The Men's Rights Activists/ Pick Up Artist/ Red Pill community used it to describe the kind of Beta males who don't act assertive around women like Alpha males (that the MRA/ PUA/ Red Pill people aspire to be). So sure, they may be all nice to women and marry them and raise children and even make lots of money, but secretly their women are fucking the assertive jerky (some would say misogynist) Alpha males.
There's a fair bit of what you might call "an exchange of ideas" between the MRA/PUA/Red Pill crowd and the alt right, and it seems the terminology transferred; as the crowd went for Trump, so did the terminology.
Only a kind and sensitive person would know so much about the etymology of the word.. :hmm:
Quote from: fromtia on June 27, 2016, 09:00:38 PM
Wow. That's a shame what a way to ruin a perfectly pleasant adult past time and porn category and make it all....Breitbarty.
:lol: Shame, with a helping of Moar Shame.
Quote from: Jacob on June 27, 2016, 07:27:57 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 27, 2016, 07:00:08 PM
Quote from: fromtia on June 27, 2016, 06:38:18 PM
I know I've been away for 12 years or so, and the onus is on me to catch the fuck up, but what is the big deal about calling someone a kind and sensitive person?
Seems to be a preferred insult of the alt right. I first saw it used by Legbiter referring to Germans who favored accepting refugees. Now has a strong association with Trump. Possibly because of some internet personality named Milo something, an alt right British poof of Greek extraction who is connected to Breitbart. I say possibly because I can only judge based on what Martinus reports.
As I understand it, the trajectory of the term goes like this:
The Men's Rights Activists/ Pick Up Artist/ Red Pill community used it to describe the kind of Beta males who don't act assertive around women like Alpha males (that the MRA/ PUA/ Red Pill people aspire to be). So sure, they may be all nice to women and marry them and raise children and even make lots of money, but secretly their women are fucking the assertive jerky (some would say misogynist) Alpha males.
There's a fair bit of what you might call "an exchange of ideas" between the MRA/PUA/Red Pill crowd and the alt right, and it seems the terminology transferred; as the crowd went for Trump, so did the terminology.
Oh boy, two great tastes that taste great together. <_<
Quote from: fromtia on June 27, 2016, 06:38:18 PM
I know I've been away for 12 years or so, and the onus is on me to catch the fuck up, but what is the big deal about calling someone a kind and sensitive person?
There's porn for it and everything. So I've heard.
Yeah real cucks are apparently put out by the terms popularity. :lol:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cl_D3-rVYAA3m9t.jpg)
https://www.vice.com/read/actual-cuckolds-are-pissed-off-at-the-far-right-using-kind and sensitive person-as-an-insult (https://www.vice.com/read/actual-cuckolds-are-pissed-off-at-the-far-right-using-kindandsensitiveperson-as-an-insult)
Weird. I thought cuckolds got off on being embarrassed and ashamed.
Quote from: Valmy on June 28, 2016, 09:45:36 AM
Weird. I thought cuckolds got off on being embarrassed and ashamed.
But there are limits - even humiliation junkies are apparently put off by being associated with alt-right asshats. :hmm:
Quote from: Valmy on June 28, 2016, 09:45:36 AM
Weird. I thought cuckolds got off on being embarrassed and ashamed.
I don't think that is actually the case.
I think the fetish is that they ARE NOT ashamed, but rather excited by it.
It is why it makes a "good" insult - it is the kind of thing that you level at someone you know it does NOT apply to, because it normally is something that men would find shameful as it is a direct attack on their ego.
I think as insults goes it is up there with "nigger" or "cunt" in its over the top nastiness. A word that someone would only use (at least non-ironically) when their intention is to simply be as unpleasant as possible in as offensive a manner as they can...
I'm triggered now.
Quote from: LaCroix on June 26, 2016, 12:52:45 PM
I thought the 230k was the number marti said. if marti said a higher number, then a higher number makes sense if he's worked at this firm for five-six years and he receives standard biglaw compensation. $230k is like a two/three-year biglaw associate.
American biglaw salaries are higher than European biglaw salaries. $230K would be a very high salary for any magic circle firm for a 2-3 year associate. I'm pretty sure that even the big American firms in London don't pay that much.
Quote from: derspiess on June 28, 2016, 09:59:14 AM
I'm triggered now.
Hey I am not judging if you enjoy cuckoldry. At some point you probably need to let your kids know who their real father is.
DON'T ASSUME WHAT TRIGGERS ME
As an insult, "kind and sensitive person" is an odd one. It sorta presupposes that the worst thing ever is to be a person who knowingly puts up with marital infidelity. Yet lots of people actually do that as a fetish. Presumably, they aren't the target of the insult.
Presumably, the target is others (I assume men) who don't have the force or personality to enforce marital obedience - that is, they are weak, pushovers, submissive (this assumes that what creates marital fidelity is a man's forceful nature). What used to be insulted by terms like "effeminate" or "faggot", which likewise did not necessarily mean the target was actually homosexual, but rather was the sort of weak and ineffectual person that other men could presumably dominate and fuck (this assumes that men allow other men to fuck them out of weakness).
This is what makes the insult such a nasty reflection on the person using it - the assumptions underlying it.
Quote from: derspiess on June 28, 2016, 10:09:26 AM
DON'T ASSUME WHAT TRIGGERS ME
Maybe you should give me a trigger warning warning :(
I am actually really intrigued by the idea that this is a real thing. I find odd fetishes kind of fascinating.
Is it just part of the typical American puritanism that results in fascination with "wrong" expressions of sexuality? Or is there a shame/humiliation thing to it? Always, sometimes?
There are a lot of kinks out there, and plenty of them I think "That is weird, but I can understand the appeal". Then there are those that are "That is weird, and I really do not understand that at all".
This definitely falls into the latter. But apparently it is actually a real thing...?
Sometimes I wonder if fetish's like this are more a matter of people wanting it to be a thing - ie, people find kind and sensitive person porn exciting, even if there really aren't many people who are truly into the fetish itself.
Quote from: Malthus on June 28, 2016, 10:11:24 AM
As an insult, "kind and sensitive person" is an odd one. It sorta presupposes that the worst thing ever is to be a person who knowingly puts up with marital infidelity. Yet lots of people actually do that as a fetish. Presumably, they aren't the target of the insult.
Presumably, the target is others (I assume men) who don't have the force or personality to enforce marital obedience - that is, they are weak, pushovers, submissive (this assumes that what creates marital fidelity is a man's forceful nature). What used to be insulted by terms like "effeminate" or "faggot", which likewise did not necessarily mean the target was actually homosexual, but rather was the sort of weak and ineffectual person that other men could presumably dominate and fuck (this assumes that men allow other men to fuck them out of weakness).
This is what makes the insult such a nasty reflection on the person using it - the assumptions underlying it.
Yep, I think this is right.
Which is really quite ironic that Marty would be so in love with the insult. It is nothing more than the modern version of calling someone straight a faggot, an attack on their masculinity by questioning their sexuality in the case of faggot, or their sexual ability to keep their woman happy in the case of kind and sensitive person.
It really does betray a rather horrifying level of immaturity on the part of the person using it and how they think about women.
kind and sensitive person as an insult only works if the target is himself insecure about his masculinity. :hmm:
Quote from: Legbiter on June 28, 2016, 10:20:51 AM
kind and sensitive person as an insult only works if the target is himself insecure about his masculinity. :hmm:
I think most people are just confused about it. Like me trying to insult somebody by saying 'Ye quadruple knave!'
Quote from: Legbiter on June 28, 2016, 10:20:51 AM
kind and sensitive person as an insult only works if the target is himself insecure about his masculinity. :hmm:
Meh, I guess. That is generically true for any insult though, isn't it? If someone calls a woman a cunt, does she actually have to wonder if she is one to find it offensive, and more importantly, is the person using the term a douchebag regardless for doing so?
I don't think Jacob is insecure, for example, that doesn't mean you can't find someone trying to be insulting actually insulting, and it doesn't mean that you can't decide that there is a reasonable line for semi-civilized discourse that should be met.
We all call each other names on Languish all the time of course, so there is always going to be some sense that there is a some hypocrisy. The line is subjective, and drawn pretty far out at Languish. But I think the forum is better for there being a line...somewhere.
It is no coincidence that the same person keeps finding themselves on the wrong side of that line. marty sets out to try to actually be as offensive as possible.
Quote from: Legbiter on June 28, 2016, 10:20:51 AM
kind and sensitive person as an insult only works if the target is himself insecure about his masculinity. :hmm:
Isn't the same true of calling someone a "faggot"? :hmm:
I mean, if someone is actually gay it won't "work", and same with someone who is definitely hetero.
However, while it may not "work" the target understands the hostility behind it.
Quote from: Valmy on June 28, 2016, 10:22:38 AM
Quote from: Legbiter on June 28, 2016, 10:20:51 AM
kind and sensitive person as an insult only works if the target is himself insecure about his masculinity. :hmm:
I think most people are just confused about it. Like me trying to insult somebody by saying 'Ye quadruple knave!'
'swounds! :D
Quote from: Berkut on June 28, 2016, 10:27:31 AMIt is no coincidence that the same person keeps finding themselves on the wrong side of that line. marty sets out to try to actually be as offensive as possible.
All true but on the other hand few posters here have as much accumulated subject matter of counter-trolling/lolcowing than our esteemed Polish homofaggot. ^_^
Yeah, insults aren't about accuracy. They are about conveying emotion frequently hostility.
Quote from: Valmy on June 28, 2016, 10:13:00 AM
Quote from: derspiess on June 28, 2016, 10:09:26 AM
DON'T ASSUME WHAT TRIGGERS ME
Maybe you should give me a trigger warning warning :(
I'll put one in my sig.
Quote from: Berkut on June 28, 2016, 10:18:53 AM
It really does betray a rather horrifying level of immaturity on the part of the person using it and how they think about women.
Are you really horrified?
Quote from: derspiess on June 28, 2016, 10:44:09 AM
Quote from: Berkut on June 28, 2016, 10:18:53 AM
It really does betray a rather horrifying level of immaturity on the part of the person using it and how they think about women.
Are you really horrified?
By people who use words like "kind and sensitive person" or "cunt" or "nigger" in attempts to be offensive? Yes.
Well, to the extent that one can be "horrified" by anything on Languish. It is probably an overly strong word in that particular context.
Obkb.
Quote from: derspiess on June 28, 2016, 10:42:28 AM
Quote from: Valmy on June 28, 2016, 10:13:00 AM
Quote from: derspiess on June 28, 2016, 10:09:26 AM
DON'T ASSUME WHAT TRIGGERS ME
Maybe you should give me a trigger warning warning :(
I'll put one in my sig.
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.comicvine.com%2Fuploads%2Foriginal%2F10%2F105634%2F4470627-modern-day%2Bfeminists%2B-%2Bimgur.gif&hash=407f8c1b50f6a1909deba10dff041bee94f95d02)
:lol:
that's beautiful :lol:
Internet activists are pretty ferocious with their barrage of memes.
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 26, 2016, 07:36:33 PM
We need a Sulla.
Is that Emma Watson in an SS uniform? :lol:
Quote from: Valmy on June 28, 2016, 11:26:14 AM
Internet activists are pretty ferocious with their barrage of memes.
I read a tweet somewhere about feminists deciding to give up because of all the memes they have to face down. :D
She looks kinda like she drowned in it.
Quote from: Razgovory on June 23, 2016, 10:53:11 PM
His job is legit. I mean, the law firm has a photo of him on their web page.
"radca prawny"
I think it means he prepares crustaceans for other lawyers.
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on June 28, 2016, 06:32:07 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on June 23, 2016, 10:53:11 PM
His job is legit. I mean, the law firm has a photo of him on their web page.
"radca prawny"
I think it means he prepares crustaceans for other lawyers.
Surely it means he's a radical prawn?
I view kind and sensitive person as a pretty good modern day insult, I think it's a catch all term for any Social Justice Warrior betamale, the kind who would come home and catch his wife pulling a train and wring his hands while he "supported her sexual liberation."
My understanding of the historical use of the term cuckold is it's any man whose wife cheats on him, that act "cuckolds" him. The idea that it's someone who gets off on watching his wife get fucked by other dudes is, I think, 100% a porn thing.
I think cuckold traditionally was seen as very negative--and even applied to men who were unawarepf the infidelity (but others knew of it.)
Quote from: Berkut on June 28, 2016, 10:15:43 AM
I am actually really intrigued by the idea that this is a real thing. I find odd fetishes kind of fascinating.
Is it just part of the typical American puritanism that results in fascination with "wrong" expressions of sexuality? Or is there a shame/humiliation thing to it? Always, sometimes?
There are a lot of kinks out there, and plenty of them I think "That is weird, but I can understand the appeal". Then there are those that are "That is weird, and I really do not understand that at all".
This definitely falls into the latter. But apparently it is actually a real thing...?
Sometimes I wonder if fetish's like this are more a matter of people wanting it to be a thing - ie, people find kind and sensitive person porn exciting, even if there really aren't many people who are truly into the fetish itself.
There's a shit ton of rape porn, and it's thing women and men are both into. I don't think essentially any woman wants to actually be raped and I still have enough faith in humanity that I think the immense majority of men have no genuine desire to rape someone. Sexual fantasies don't necessarily have to map to what you'd really like at all.
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on June 28, 2016, 06:50:22 PM
Quote from: Berkut on June 28, 2016, 10:15:43 AM
I am actually really intrigued by the idea that this is a real thing. I find odd fetishes kind of fascinating.
Is it just part of the typical American puritanism that results in fascination with "wrong" expressions of sexuality? Or is there a shame/humiliation thing to it? Always, sometimes?
There are a lot of kinks out there, and plenty of them I think "That is weird, but I can understand the appeal". Then there are those that are "That is weird, and I really do not understand that at all".
This definitely falls into the latter. But apparently it is actually a real thing...?
Sometimes I wonder if fetish's like this are more a matter of people wanting it to be a thing - ie, people find kind and sensitive person porn exciting, even if there really aren't many people who are truly into the fetish itself.
There's a shit ton of rape porn, and it's thing women and men are both into. I don't think essentially any woman wants to actually be raped and I still have enough faith in humanity that I think the immense majority of men have no genuine desire to rape someone. Sexual fantasies don't necessarily have to map to what you'd really like at all.
Yep, I very much agree - incest porn is a thing as well, and I sure as hell hope that is just because the porn part of it is exciting to people, not because there are really people out there who want to nail their sister.
I think it all comes to down the attraction of the forbidden.
Quote from: Berkut on June 28, 2016, 10:15:43 AM
I am actually really intrigued by the idea that this is a real thing. I find odd fetishes kind of fascinating.
oh it's totally a thing. It belongs in the realm of swinging, but it's a very specific fetish. It is an interesting one , because this is an outcome that heterosexual men are supposed to dread and fear but , ingenious humans we can sexualize just about anything! :yeah:
Apparently the source of the fetish can be sexualizing and eroticizing the feared event, and also ( and I like this explanation) can stem from a conviction that ones (female) partner conceals the full extent of their libidinous abandon from their mate and said abandon can only be discovered by witnessing it from the perspective of an observer.
Because Yanks are weird, they seem to have developed an entire sub genre of cuckolding porn (and apparently practice) that involves race, and theres an ocean of race themed cuckold porn. Fascinating. :nerd:
[quote author=OttoVonBismarck link=topic=14062.msg991973#msg991973 date=1467157533
My understanding of the historical use of the term cuckold is it's any man whose wife cheats on him, that act "cuckolds" him.
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Yeah, that's what the word actually means; as you mentioned, it doesn't matter if a man knows that his wife cheating on him or not, it's her infidelity in and of itself that makes him a cuckold. I wasn't really aware of the porn fetish usage of the term. Seems like a strange choice for an insult term either way--the word is pretty archaic as far as its original usage is concerned, rather esoteric as far as the fetish usage. It would be more confusing than insulting to most people, I think--you'd probably know that you'd been insulted from the context, but not be sure exactly what the insult meant. Until Marti posted the term here, I'd never seen or heard of "kind and sensitive person" as a shortened form of cuckold; at first I thought he meant "cock" and had made a typo.
We want Martinus reinstated! Unban him!
Quote from: Jaron on June 29, 2016, 02:28:41 AM
We want Martinus reinstated! Unban him!
Nah, we're chill.
Quote from: garbon on June 29, 2016, 02:29:21 AM
Quote from: Jaron on June 29, 2016, 02:28:41 AM
We want Martinus reinstated! Unban him!
Nah, we're chill.
Sir, you can file your minority report elsewhere. The rest of us want him back on this forum.
Meh.
Are we going to decide this by referendum? :P
Trial by combat.
Quote from: Monoriu on June 29, 2016, 05:03:28 AM
Are we going to decide this by referendum? :P
Seems that Jaron is already offering to lead the Remain campaign.
Cuckold porn is watching someone else get cuckolded. I'm willing to bet a good percentage of the fans of the genre aren't putting themselves in the place of the cuckold.
Quote from: garbon on June 29, 2016, 02:29:21 AM
Quote from: Jaron on June 29, 2016, 02:28:41 AM
We want Martinus reinstated! Unban him!
Nah, we're chill.
Might be fun letting him back in for 24 hours to get his comments on "Brexit". :hmm:
Shut up, Referendumtard.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 29, 2016, 07:13:59 AM
Shut up, Referendumtard.
Come to think of it, what happened to your "animetards" signature?
Quote from: Agelastus on June 29, 2016, 07:16:48 AM
Come to think of it, what happened to your "animetards" signature?
You people know you're morons.
Quote from: Monoriu on June 29, 2016, 05:03:28 AM
Are we going to decide this by referendum? :P
Mexit?
Quote from: Monoriu on June 29, 2016, 05:03:28 AM
Are we going to decide this by referendum? :P
I think we should require a supermajority to bring him back. Like, say, 100% in favor.
Hey, he's Polish--the
liberum veto seems appropriate.
If there's anything like a referendum it'll require at least 75% in favour to start negotiations. That much we've learned from the Brexit debacle.
was marti permabanned? I thought it was temporary
Quote from: LaCroix on June 29, 2016, 12:16:32 PM
was marti permabanned? I thought it was temporary
If so, it seems a bit extreme. A day or two, okay whatever. But permabanning is silly.
Quote from: Jacob on June 29, 2016, 12:12:04 PM
If there's anything like a referendum it'll require at least 75% in favour to start negotiations. That much we've learned from the Brexit debacle.
:hmm: Mareentry?
Quote from: DGuller on June 29, 2016, 12:20:44 PM
Quote from: Jacob on June 29, 2016, 12:12:04 PM
If there's anything like a referendum it'll require at least 75% in favour to start negotiations. That much we've learned from the Brexit debacle.
:hmm: Mareentry?
Sounds filthy.
Fagit
Quote from: Jacob on June 29, 2016, 12:22:28 PM
Quote from: DGuller on June 29, 2016, 12:20:44 PM
Quote from: Jacob on June 29, 2016, 12:12:04 PM
If there's anything like a referendum it'll require at least 75% in favour to start negotiations. That much we've learned from the Brexit debacle.
:hmm: Mareentry?
Sounds filthy.
:huh: :o :lmfao:
:rolleyes:
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 29, 2016, 05:08:35 AM
Trial by combat.
Sadly, outlawed by EU health & safety rules.
Quote from: Jaron on June 29, 2016, 02:28:41 AM
We want Martinus reinstated! Unban him!
Ok, let's propose this to Martinus, see if he agrees.
We let him in, but to compensate the life given, we must take one.
Marty in, Jaron out.
If he agrees to that, I vote for Marty to be reinstated immediatly.
Quote from: Jaron on June 29, 2016, 02:30:49 AM
Quote from: garbon on June 29, 2016, 02:29:21 AM
Quote from: Jaron on June 29, 2016, 02:28:41 AM
We want Martinus reinstated! Unban him!
Nah, we're chill.
Sir, you can file your minority report elsewhere. The rest of us want him back on this forum.
Nope.
Although I'd be willing to let Marty in if he agrees that we should ban you, I think it'd be like trading John André for Benedict Arnold.
Quote from: derspiess on June 29, 2016, 12:20:06 PM
Quote from: LaCroix on June 29, 2016, 12:16:32 PM
was marti permabanned? I thought it was temporary
If so, it seems a bit extreme. A day or two, okay whatever. But permabanning is silly.
Yes it is a bit petty. I would say this is an outrageous abuse of mod powers but there really are no limits to mod powers on this forum.
Quote from: Valmy on June 29, 2016, 02:27:55 PM
Quote from: derspiess on June 29, 2016, 12:20:06 PM
Quote from: LaCroix on June 29, 2016, 12:16:32 PM
was marti permabanned? I thought it was temporary
If so, it seems a bit extreme. A day or two, okay whatever. But permabanning is silly.
Yes it is a bit petty. I would say this is an outrageous abuse of mod powers but there really are no limits to mod powers on this forum.
I don't see the point in unbanning him today and banning him Saturday.
Quote from: viper37 on June 29, 2016, 02:29:03 PM
I don't see the point in unbanning him today and banning him Saturday.
Weekly rituals are healthy for a community to engage in :P
Quote from: Valmy on June 29, 2016, 02:29:43 PM
Quote from: viper37 on June 29, 2016, 02:29:03 PM
I don't see the point in unbanning him today and banning him Saturday.
Weekly rituals are healthy for a community to engage in :P
:D
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on June 28, 2016, 06:45:33 PM
I view kind and sensitive person as a pretty good modern day insult, I think it's a catch all term for any Social Justice Warrior betamale, the kind who would come home and catch his wife pulling a train and wring his hands while he "supported her sexual liberation."
So it is a good insult because it basically describes no one who actually exists?
Quote from: garbon on June 29, 2016, 02:40:37 PM
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on June 28, 2016, 06:45:33 PM
I view kind and sensitive person as a pretty good modern day insult, I think it's a catch all term for any Social Justice Warrior betamale, the kind who would come home and catch his wife pulling a train and wring his hands while he "supported her sexual liberation."
So it is a good insult because it basically describes no one who actually exists?
Yeah, I was gonna say that, as well. Maybe they'll replace it with "uni," which is short for "unicorn."
Quote from: garbon on June 29, 2016, 02:40:37 PM
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on June 28, 2016, 06:45:33 PM
I view kind and sensitive person as a pretty good modern day insult, I think it's a catch all term for any Social Justice Warrior betamale, the kind who would come home and catch his wife pulling a train and wring his hands while he "supported her sexual liberation."
So it is a good insult because it basically describes no one who actually exists?
There was some stupid article that was shared on Languish at some point about some guy who supposedly let his wife sleep around because he was guilty about men historically controlling women's sexuality or some shit. As if wanting your spouse to not sleep around was something unique to men. But I have a hard time believing that was genuine. It just seemed too stupid.
Quote from: garbon on June 29, 2016, 02:40:37 PM
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on June 28, 2016, 06:45:33 PM
I view kind and sensitive person as a pretty good modern day insult, I think it's a catch all term for any Social Justice Warrior betamale, the kind who would come home and catch his wife pulling a train and wring his hands while he "supported her sexual liberation."
So it is a good insult because it basically describes no one who actually exists?
No I think they exist, for sure. You must not spend enough time on the SJW hangouts on reddit.
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on June 29, 2016, 04:18:28 PM
No I think they exist, for sure. You must not spend enough time on the SJW hangouts on reddit.
And you do?
Quote from: Jacob on June 29, 2016, 04:25:11 PM
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on June 29, 2016, 04:18:28 PM
No I think they exist, for sure. You must not spend enough time on the SJW hangouts on reddit.
And you do?
Sure, for the same reason I sometimes check out r/the_donald. Sometimes the train wreck is fun in its own right.
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on June 29, 2016, 04:48:58 PM
Quote from: Jacob on June 29, 2016, 04:25:11 PM
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on June 29, 2016, 04:18:28 PM
No I think they exist, for sure. You must not spend enough time on the SJW hangouts on reddit.
And you do?
Sure, for the same reason I sometimes check out r/the_donald. Sometimes the train wreck is fun in its own right.
Heh, I wonder what percentage of the forum is composed of trolls deliberately posting outrageous stuff - in both cases. :D
I think it's like the Swedish guy a few years ago who was on the news for trying to breastfeed his baby because he wanted to "feel that connection." I think that's sort of the "Modern Man" that the_donald type crowd is targeting when they use the word "kind and sensitive person." Maybe he wouldn't literally be like "gosh, I just need to support her" if he caught his wife cheating on him, but you can see the insult-logic there.
I don't think there are actually that many people who act this way. They're basically ultra-progressive, ultra-PC types who while they exist, their numbers are overstated by a factor of ten or more by the far right.
On the other side, one doesn't need to be Sigmund Freud to detect a current of anxiety and insecurity among the insulters. The implication being that in the absence of traditional patriarchal attitudes, vigorously enforced, female sexuality will run amok and wives will inevitably cheat. Somewhat ironic in light of the alt rights anti-Muslim position although not the first time a ideology shared certain deviant mentalities with its ideological opposition. Why an EE yuppie gay professional like Martinus would slum about with such detritus is almost inexplicable. Milo's same sex hotness must be off the charts.
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on June 29, 2016, 05:17:18 PM
Milo's same sex hotness must be off the charts.
In Mart's opinion.
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on June 29, 2016, 05:02:29 PM
I think it's like the Swedish guy a few years ago who was on the news for trying to breastfeed his baby because he wanted to "feel that connection." I think that's sort of the "Modern Man" that the_donald type crowd is targeting when they use the word "kind and sensitive person." Maybe he wouldn't literally be like "gosh, I just need to support her" if he caught his wife cheating on him, but you can see the insult-logic there.
I don't think there are actually that many people who act this way. They're basically ultra-progressive, ultra-PC types who while they exist, their numbers are overstated by a factor of ten or more by the far right.
They seem to be using it against conservatives quite a bit. I think the connotation is "race traitor".
Quote from: Razgovory on June 29, 2016, 05:57:03 PM
They seem to be using it against conservatives quite a bit. I think the connotation is "race traitor".
Purity politics can be vicious, especially when driven by deep seated psychological insecurities.
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on June 29, 2016, 05:02:29 PM
I think it's like the Swedish guy a few years ago who was on the news for trying to breastfeed his baby because he wanted to "feel that connection."
So it's a good insult because it refers to an apocryphal Swedish guy from years ago?
Okay. I guess that's what passes for thinking to some people. The more people try to explain the "insult," the more moronic it appears.
My biggest takeaway from this thread is the meaning of kind and sensitive person. I thought it was a corruption of either "fuck" or "cock", or a combination.
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on June 29, 2016, 05:17:18 PM
On the other side, one doesn't need to be Sigmund Freud to detect a current of anxiety and insecurity among the insulters. The implication being that in the absence of traditional patriarchal attitudes, vigorously enforced, female sexuality will run amok and wives will inevitably cheat. Somewhat ironic in light of the alt rights anti-Muslim position although not the first time a ideology shared certain deviant mentalities with its ideological opposition. Why an EE yuppie gay professional like Martinus would slum about with such detritus is almost inexplicable. Milo's same sex hotness must be off the charts.
Sure, similar to the use of faggot. But it's also largely used in places like r/the_donald whose primary function is as a gathering place of internet trolls so I think it's difficult to ascribe too much motive since by definition a troll behaves disingenuously.
Quote from: Monoriu on June 29, 2016, 07:50:30 PM
My biggest takeaway from this thread is the meaning of kind and sensitive person. I thought it was a corruption of either "fuck" or "cock", or a combination.
No, it's shorting of the word "cuckold". Think Cuckoo clock.
Quote from: Monoriu on June 29, 2016, 07:50:30 PM
My biggest takeaway from this thread is the meaning of kind and sensitive person. I thought it was a corruption of either "fuck" or "cock", or a combination.
That's not much of a takeaway, given that it appears to be used purely by morons, and mostly used against near-morons.
Now, if it was Monos describing near-Monos, you'd have something useful.
Quote from: grumbler on June 29, 2016, 07:54:18 PM
That's not much of a takeaway, given that it appears to be used purely by morons, and mostly used against near-morons.
Now, if it was Monos describing near-Monos, you'd have something useful.
I have resigned to the fact that there aren't that many near-Monos in this world.
In Spanish a cuckold is a "cornudo" (somebody who has his wife cheat on him is said to "bear horns"), if you want to further extend your knowledge in this vital subject.
Quote from: celedhring on June 30, 2016, 03:53:45 AM
In Spanish a cuckold is a "cornudo" (somebody who has his wife cheat on him is said to "bear horns"), if you want to further extend your knowledge in this vital subject.
Aye, a cuckold has horns here too (maybe not in common use or ken).
Quote from: Monoriu on June 29, 2016, 08:02:10 PM
Quote from: grumbler on June 29, 2016, 07:54:18 PM
That's not much of a takeaway, given that it appears to be used purely by morons, and mostly used against near-morons.
Now, if it was Monos describing near-Monos, you'd have something useful.
I have resigned to the fact that there aren't that many near-Monos in this world.
Good. We don't really need more inhuman humans.
Quote from: celedhring on June 30, 2016, 03:53:45 AM
In Spanish a cuckold is a "cornudo" (somebody who has his wife cheat on him is said to "bear horns"), if you want to further extend your knowledge in this vital subject.
Same in Italian. It is also one of the most basic insults in the language.
Those Italians must be googling furiously and wondering how a somewhat obscure corner of the Internet has suddenly sprung forth to share in their eternal obsession.
Quote from: Legbiter on June 30, 2016, 06:02:34 AM
Quote from: celedhring on June 30, 2016, 03:53:45 AM
In Spanish a cuckold is a "cornudo" (somebody who has his wife cheat on him is said to "bear horns"), if you want to further extend your knowledge in this vital subject.
Same in Italian. It is also one of the most basic insults in the language.
Those Italians must be googling furiously and wondering how a somewhat obscure corner of the Internet has suddenly sprung forth to share in their eternal obsession.
"Cabrón" (same meaning) is also one of the most basic insults in Spanish. Heck, I use it as a term of endearment with my closest male friends. :ph34r:
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on June 29, 2016, 05:17:18 PM
On the other side, one doesn't need to be Sigmund Freud to detect a current of anxiety and insecurity among the insulters. The implication being that in the absence of traditional patriarchal attitudes, vigorously enforced, female sexuality will run amok and wives will inevitably cheat. Somewhat ironic in light of the alt rights anti-Muslim position although not the first time a ideology shared certain deviant mentalities with its ideological opposition. Why an EE yuppie gay professional like Martinus would slum about with such detritus is almost inexplicable. Milo's same sex hotness must be off the charts.
It's dick politics, you're opinions are decided by which direction your wang happens to be pointing in.
There would be more upright politicians if that were the case :hmm:
Quote from: celedhring on June 30, 2016, 07:07:18 AM
Quote from: Legbiter on June 30, 2016, 06:02:34 AM
Quote from: celedhring on June 30, 2016, 03:53:45 AM
In Spanish a cuckold is a "cornudo" (somebody who has his wife cheat on him is said to "bear horns"), if you want to further extend your knowledge in this vital subject.
Same in Italian. It is also one of the most basic insults in the language.
Those Italians must be googling furiously and wondering how a somewhat obscure corner of the Internet has suddenly sprung forth to share in their eternal obsession.
"Cabrón" (same meaning) is also one of the most basic insults in Spanish. Heck, I use it as a term of endearment with my closest male friends. :ph34r:
My mother calls me that when I'm being shady. :blush: