http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/7341522/prince-dead
Fuck
Memory Eternal. RiP.
Double fuck.
2016, bad year for musicians :( :(
RIP
L.
Two thousand one six party over, oops out of time. :(
The Artist formely known as Prince. :cry:
shame :(
WTF
RIP :(
:o :weep:
2016 is shaping up to be the worst year in pop music, ever. And it's just April.
Watched him live the only time he came to Barcelona. He was fantastic. RIP. :cry:
My wife texted me about it, and I thought at first she'd fallen for some fucked up hoax. Unfortunately, that wasn't the case. :(
:(
Quote from: dps on April 21, 2016, 03:52:57 PM
My wife texted me about it, and I thought at first she'd fallen for some fucked up hoax. Unfortunately, that wasn't the case. :(
I heard it from workers at the Gap (I love the jeans and they were on sale. :Embarrass:). I thought at first they were talking about some British celeb with the last name Prince. :(
Absolutely shocked. He was too young. :(
I was pressing the SCAN button on the way home on the radio, going through the FM stations, just to see if anybody was playing some Prince in remembrance.
They all were.
Are there any famous black artists besides Prince and Michael Jackson who were Jehovah's Witnesses?
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 21, 2016, 06:59:53 PM
Are there any famous black artists besides Prince and Michael Jackson who were Jehovah's Witnesses?
I had to Google that shit up. Musical artists: Ja Rule, Janet Jackson, George Benson, Notorious B.I.G., Dave Mustaine.
Michael was raised JW, so I assume his brothers and Janet were as well. Though he got excommunicated.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on April 21, 2016, 07:34:48 PM
Michael was raised JW, so I assume his brothers and Janet were as well. Though he got excommunicated.
You forgot La Toya.
He said famous artists, not famous siblings.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on April 21, 2016, 07:44:39 PM
He said famous artists, not famous siblings.
But you did.
Quoteso I assume his brothers and Janet were as well.
Asshole.
The Jackson Five had lots of hit songs, what did LaToya ever do?
I think she charted in the 80s.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on April 21, 2016, 07:57:28 PM
The Jackson Five had lots of hit songs, what did LaToya ever do?
You couldn't name the Jackson 5 if four of them were in a police line up raping you in the face, you filthy contrarian Assburger attorney.
We just can't go with "Gee, Seedy, you're right, I forgot La Toya. Oops." Noooo, we have to reach like the typical Languish autistic dickfuck that can't admit when we're wrong and double down with Marlon fucking Jackson, don't we?
So many fucking pencilneck dildo Rainman assfuck Spectrum twats. Fuck already.
You know what Seedy, why don't you go fuck yourself.
Still can't say it, can you.
Go ahead, it's OK.
"Gee, Seedy, you're right, I forgot La Toya. Oops."
Go ahead. C'mon. You can do it.
You're being a spaz Seedy.
FWIW, I agree with the Seedman. Peter Wigger is notoriously incapable of admitting when he is at fault.
Quote from: 11B4V on April 21, 2016, 09:29:43 PM
Not really.
Calling someone an Assberger asshole for claiming to not know LaToya Jackson's work is spazzisimo.
I only know LaToya from Playboy and as a member of the Jackson family.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 21, 2016, 09:32:19 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on April 21, 2016, 09:29:43 PM
Not really.
Calling someone an Assberger asshole for claiming to not know LaToya Jackson's work is spazzisimo.
Sorry, but no.
Oh FFS, take it to another thread you assclowns.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 21, 2016, 08:07:47 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on April 21, 2016, 07:57:28 PM
The Jackson Five had lots of hit songs, what did LaToya ever do?
You couldn't name the Jackson 5 if four of them were in a police line up raping you in the face, you filthy contrarian Assburger attorney.
We just can't go with "Gee, Seedy, you're right, I forgot La Toya. Oops." Noooo, we have to reach like the typical Languish autistic dickfuck that can't admit when we're wrong and double down with Marlon fucking Jackson, don't we?
So many fucking pencilneck dildo Rainman assfuck Spectrum twats. Fuck already.
It's inappropriate but I lolled :lol:
Then again it was quite inappropriate from Prince to die during my drive home. All the radio stations started playing his music, which, while acknowledging his talent, I never cared about.
A life in pictures:
http://www.theguardian.com/culture/gallery/2016/apr/21/prince-legacy-iconic-photographs-career?CMP=fb_gu (http://www.theguardian.com/culture/gallery/2016/apr/21/prince-legacy-iconic-photographs-career?CMP=fb_gu)
It's hard to remember how ground-breaking this album cover was in 1988. A naked, non-white, non gym-honed man in a vulnerable pose. More hot* celebrity men should pose naked. You know, for gender equality.
(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/a95a47f8469688cefa51d8a5835b6b79b2c8eaf9/0_0_960_960/master/960.jpg?w=700&q=55&auto=format&usm=12&fit=max&s=048c9d399b49a3b269b579ba9475470a)
* I never thought Prince was hot until I saw him perform live. Despite being a small, slim, non traditionally good looking man he must have squirted pheromones all the way to the back row of the O2.
hubba hubba
I've never attended to one of his live shows, and this is a regret of mine.
L.
Quote from: Pedrito on April 22, 2016, 05:55:18 AM
I've never attended to one of his live shows, and this is a regret of mine.
Yeah, big regret as well. Always filed under, "Well, he tours so much, I'll catch him next time."
My sister and the girls went to see him last year for his Peace benefit concert in Baltimore; the 12 year old was positively crushed yesterday.
Got this email from my sister this AM--
QuoteSaw that yesterday was Tony Danza's birthday. What fucking kind of world is it where Tony Danza is still around & Prince isn't?
Quote from: Pedrito on April 22, 2016, 05:55:18 AM
I've never attended to one of his live shows, and this is a regret of mine.
L.
Yep, always meant to do it but never got around to it :(
So he died of complications that resulted from a case of the flu? Not something you see much these days. Damn. Not sure what else to say.
I bet he had AIDS.
Incidentally, I am at a retreat in Paris right now and I mentioned his death yesterday to a bunch of British, German and French lawyers. They all looked at me as if I was an alien from another planet and just shrugged.
Some less reputable reports say he was given a "save shot" for an opiate overdose a few days before.
Quote from: Martinus on April 22, 2016, 10:06:07 AM
They all looked at me as if I was an alien from another planet and just shrugged.
Yeah, but that had nothing to do with the death of Prince.
Weather Underground is using purple rain.
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FaLOfmUN.png&hash=385966a5257784e4264ebd7dd8c980617e268456)
I liked Prince's music but the dead guy worship shit is starting to get annoying already.
I've heard a few people say he was as much of a musical genius as Michael Jackson. Uh, no.
Quote from: Caliga on April 22, 2016, 09:06:18 PM
I've heard a few people say he was as much of a musical genius as Michael Jackson. Uh, no.
You're not honestly going to go where I think you're going with this, right?
I'm not going anywhere dude. I was done.
You've been in Kentucky too long. It has obviously rubbed off on you, and made you stupid.
Me not understand.
That's apparent sir.
If a gun was put to my head and I had to choose between Prince and MJ I would easily go with Prince.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 23, 2016, 01:53:39 AM
If a gun was put to my head and I had to choose between Prince and MJ I would easily go with Prince.
:yes:
Okay, let's not be silly. Prince has a few good songs but Michael Jackson is his own genre of music.
Michael Jackson had about three good songs before his balls dropped then about 2 or 3 afterwards.
It is very rare that I want to hear something by Michael Jackson, not so with Prince.
MJ:
Thriller
Beat it
Bad
Billie Jean
Smooth Criminal
And that doesn't even touch his work with the Jackson 5 or his work in the 90s.
Prince has what? Purple Rain, Raspberry Beret and a Chappelle show skit?
Billy Jean is an elevator suckfest.
Honestly my favorite MJ album is Off The Wall.
His best song was Nothing Compares 2 you
Quote from: Caliga on April 22, 2016, 09:06:18 PM
I've heard a few people say he was as much of a musical genius as Michael Jackson. Uh, no.
I agree, I don't think MJ was as gifted musically. He was a great performer and he knew how he wanted his music to sound. But he relied on others to help him write and produce. Prince did it all, he wrote, produced and performed. He could play all the instruments. He wrote for other musicians. In terms of musical knowledge and technical ability I don't think there is any comparison.
Quote from: Josephus on April 23, 2016, 08:59:52 AM
His best song was Nothing Compares 2 you
That was a great song.
Prince died at the average age of death for American male pop stars.
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But he lived a million prole lifetimes compressed into one. :thumbsup:
Male pop musicians in the 90s had a life expectancy between 45 and 50? Did they moonlight as professional wrestlers on the side or what?
Yeah, I find that statistic a bit hard to believe. I mean, there's a bunch of high profile popstar early deaths, but my perception is that most of them reach old age like anybody else.
I think the x axis is referring to people who died at that time, not people who were musicians at that time.
I think the main reason why that chart is pretty bogus is the demographic difference between pop musicians and the population at large. In the 1950s how old were the very oldest pop musicians? Considering it wasn't really a widespread form until the 1930s I'd guess the very, very oldest ones would be in their 60s (how many 40 yo pop stars were there in 1930?). Over time the rapidly increasing pool of people that would be considered pop musicians meant that the average age stayed young. With the old pop musicians staying a tiny minority their deaths are swamped by normal expected deaths as well as occupational hazards among the younger cohorts. It's only in the 2000s and 2010s with the 1960s pop boom aging up that it is starting to approach the general population.
Quote from: frunk on April 24, 2016, 01:57:14 PM
I think the main reason why that chart is pretty bogus is the demographic difference between pop musicians and the population at large. In the 1950s how old were the very oldest pop musicians? Considering it wasn't really a widespread form until the 1930s I'd guess the very, very oldest ones would be in their 60s (how many 40 yo pop stars were there in 1930?). Over time the rapidly increasing pool of people that would be considered pop musicians meant that the average age stayed young. With the old pop musicians staying a tiny minority their deaths are swamped by normal expected deaths as well as occupational hazards among the younger cohorts. It's only in the 2000s and 2010s with the 1960s pop boom aging up that it is starting to approach the general population.
That strikes me as a sort of silly argument as I would guess the author of the chart in question was looking at 'popular' music. Not that I'm claiming graph is right but I'm not sure why you'd attack an argument that the author was not advancing.
I think this might be the original source and it confirms my suspicions.
http://theconversation.com/stairway-to-hell-life-and-death-in-the-pop-music-industry-32735
QuoteI went to rapper death websites, Dead Punk Stars and similar sites for all popular music genres. The genres I covered included African, ballad, bluegrass, blues, Cajun, calypso, Christian pop, conjunto, country, doo-wop, electroclash, folk, funk, Gospel, hard rock, hip hop, honky tonk, indie, jazz, Latin, metal, new wave, polka, pop, psychedelic, punk, punk-electronic, rock rap, reggae, rhythm and blues, rock 'n' roll, rockabilly, ska, soul, swamp, swing, techno, western and world music.
Quote from: garbon on April 24, 2016, 02:04:22 PM
That strikes me as a sort of silly argument as I would guess the author of the chart in question was looking at 'popular' music. Not that I'm claiming graph is right but I'm not sure why you'd attack an argument that the author was not advancing.
I think this might be the original source and it confirms my suspicions.
http://theconversation.com/stairway-to-hell-life-and-death-in-the-pop-music-industry-32735
QuoteI went to rapper death websites, Dead Punk Stars and similar sites for all popular music genres. The genres I covered included African, ballad, bluegrass, blues, Cajun, calypso, Christian pop, conjunto, country, doo-wop, electroclash, folk, funk, Gospel, hard rock, hip hop, honky tonk, indie, jazz, Latin, metal, new wave, polka, pop, psychedelic, punk, punk-electronic, rock rap, reggae, rhythm and blues, rock 'n' roll, rockabilly, ska, soul, swamp, swing, techno, western and world music.
There's nothing in the article that disagrees with what I said, and in fact it only confirms it. He continually compares the numbers to the population at large, rather than comparing to equivalent age brackets. In 1950 the average age of the general population is going to be way higher than the average age of pop musicians, and I don't think that changes significantly until the more recent data points. It isn't just because they are dying younger, it's because pop was an ever growing population, expanding way faster than the population at large. 50 years ago the percentage of the population that could claim to have ever been a pop musician would be much lower than it is now, and it would have skewed younger.
It probably is true that pop musicians tend to die younger, but this doesn't prove it.
It's actually a very good point. If you plot age at death of millenials against general population, you will likewise find that millenials are dying very young, comparatively speaking. The potential for bias in this kind of chart is humongous.
Quote from: DGuller on April 24, 2016, 02:28:48 PM
It's actually a very good point. If you plot age at death of millenials against general population, you will likewise find that millenials are dying very young, comparatively speaking. The potential for bias in this kind of chart is humongous.
But those people who didn't die young back in the 30s and 40s should have reverted the average back to the population mean in the latter years.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 24, 2016, 02:38:51 PM
Quote from: DGuller on April 24, 2016, 02:28:48 PM
It's actually a very good point. If you plot age at death of millenials against general population, you will likewise find that millenials are dying very young, comparatively speaking. The potential for bias in this kind of chart is humongous.
But those people who didn't die young back in the 30s and 40s should have reverted the average back to the population mean in the latter years.
Not if you have a lot more younger people joining them. Any difference in age distribution from the general population will skew that plot in a misleading way.
:( I didn't die at a young age, and I'm going to leave a really ugly corpse...
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 23, 2016, 09:50:24 AM
Quote from: Caliga on April 22, 2016, 09:06:18 PM
I've heard a few people say he was as much of a musical genius as Michael Jackson. Uh, no.
I agree, I don't think MJ was as gifted musically. He was a great performer and he knew how he wanted his music to sound. But he relied on others to help him write and produce. Prince did it all, he wrote, produced and performed. He could play all the instruments. He wrote for other musicians. In terms of musical knowledge and technical ability I don't think there is any comparison.
I agree with this in general but MJ did write and co-produce a lot of his own stuff - Beat It, Bille Jean and others
Quote from: PDH on April 24, 2016, 03:15:28 PM
:( I didn't die at a young age, and I'm going to leave a really ugly corpse...
you didnt live hard enough
My corpse is gonna look like one of those dog turds that has been in the sun for days.
I want mine to require a positive-pressure containment suit. Segregated oxygen supply, baby. Gonna make you work that biohazard scene.
It isn't every day you see a reference to "The Birds" by Aristophanes in the popular press:
QuoteArsenio Hall sues Sinead O'Connor over Prince drug claims
(CNN)U.S. comedian Arsenio Hall is suing singer Sinead O'Connor for defamation.
This is after she posted a note on Facebook accusing Hall of supplying Prince with drugs "over the decades" and of spiking her with drugs.
The suit, filed in Los Angeles on Thursday, is seeking damages of "not less than" $5 million.
"Desperate, attention seeker Sinead O'Connor has maliciously published outlandish defamatory lies about comedian Arsenio Hall, falsely accusing him of supplying illegal 'hard drugs' 'over the decades' to the recently deceased music artist, Prince, and of spiking her with drugs once years ago," the lawsuit says.
'Cloud cuckoo land'
On Monday, O'Connor, who is no stranger to controversy, accused Hall of supplying Prince with drugs.
"Two words for the DEA investigating where prince got his drugs over the decades ... Arsenio Hall. Anyone imagining prince was not a long time hard drug user is living in cloud cuckoo land," O'Connor wrote in a post that has since been deleted.
"Arsenio I've reported you to the Carver County Sheriff's office. Expect their call. They are aware you spiked me years ago at Eddie Murphy's house. You best get tidying your man cave."
Hall has denied the "heinous accusations" in the lawsuit, calling O'Connor's statement "despicable, fabricated lies."
The lawsuit says Hall has also had only "minimal" contact with the singer, and "last had contact with her approximately 25 years ago."
"Hall will not stand idly by while O'Connor attempts to get attention for herself by recklessly spreading malicious, vile lies that he engaged in egregious criminal conduct which falsely links Hall to Prince's death," the lawsuit adds.
O'Connor, who had a huge hit with her cover of Prince's "Nothing Compares 2 U," has not publicly commented on the suit.
Multiple attempts to contact O'Conner's representatives for comment went unanswered.
Prince investigation
As more details emerge about the possible role opioid drugs may have had in Prince's as yet unexplained death, state and federal officials are continuing their investigations.
The U.S. Attorney's Office and the Drug Enforcement Agency announced Wednesday that they're joining forces with local investigators led by the Carver County Sheriff's Office to investigate the music icon's death and will provide "federal resources and expertise about prescription drug diversion."
The Carver County Sheriff's Department said it was aware of O'Connor's post, but won't comment on "sources of information or specifics about information obtained during this investigation."
:huh:
I "follow" Sinead on Facebook.
She's strange.
Prince had more musical ability than MJ.
Though MJ used what he had much better.
I mean. Nobody would dount Carlos Santana is a better guitarist than Graham Coxon. But give me Blur any day.
Quote from: Tyr on May 07, 2016, 09:31:16 AM
Prince had more musical ability than MJ.
Though MJ used what he had much better.
I mean. Nobody would dount Carlos Santana is a better guitarist than Graham Coxon. But give me Blur any day.
I think Jacko was the better performer and better singer; Prince was a better musician and songwriter (as well as a talented producer and impresario as well.) Prince was innovative in a way that Michael Jackson was not, but Jacko had the magic touch. (As an example that I've used before, Motown had kicked around the song "Who's Loving You" for a decade and gotten nowhere with it. MJ, at the ripe old age of 12 nailed the song and made it a Motown standard; succeeding where The Miracles and The Supremes had failed.)
Michael Jackson was a god whereas Prince was an immortal at best.
...so what's the story with this? I guess Prince overdosed on something? That Arsenio Hall :blink: may have provided him? Any updates?
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on May 16, 2016, 01:56:23 PM
...so what's the story with this? I guess Prince overdosed on something? That Arsenio Hall :blink: may have provided him? Any updates?
Nah...Sinead was just rambling. Looks like Arsenio is suing her
Quote from: Josephus on May 16, 2016, 05:05:09 PM
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on May 16, 2016, 01:56:23 PM
...so what's the story with this? I guess Prince overdosed on something? That Arsenio Hall :blink: may have provided him? Any updates?
Nah...Sinead was just rambling. Looks like Arsenio is suing her
The tabloids are having a field day, though. Saw some headlines at the checkout counter. A couple say he overdosed, a couple said he was murdered, and one said AIDS.
Quote from: Josephus on May 16, 2016, 05:05:09 PM
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on May 16, 2016, 01:56:23 PM
...so what's the story with this? I guess Prince overdosed on something? That Arsenio Hall :blink: may have provided him? Any updates?
Nah...Sinead was just rambling. Looks like Arsenio is suing her
Heh I wonder if someone can successfully sue for defamation for stuff said about them by someone who is nuts. Never looked into that, defamation's not something I know much about.
Libel and slander cases are extremely hard to win in the US compared to the UK (and maybe the Commonwealth nations). You have to "knowingly" defame with a lie. Being nuts is pretty good at defeating the knowledge requirement. I assume Arsenio is suing as a PE tactic and suspect that nothing except attorney fees and space on court docket will result from this.
Anyone know how Sine Aid ended up living in the US? Did she win the green card lottery? Or pay some former INS lawyer a million bucks to call in a marker?
Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 17, 2016, 01:52:11 PM
Anyone know how Sine Aid ended up living in the US? Did she win the green card lottery? Or pay some former INS lawyer a million bucks to call in a marker?
A lot of Euro actors and musicians end up living here. Probably the Green Cards are easier if you already have means.
Quote from: Brazen on April 22, 2016, 10:17:53 AM
Some less reputable reports say he was given a "save shot" for an opiate overdose a few days before.
Cause of death was Fentanyl overdose. I was on this for three days after my operation. Ridiculously strong and addictive, so they took me off it in three days and put me on morphine.
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/what-fentanyl-drug-killed-prince-has-killed-thousands-others-n584961
Anybody hprescribed strong opiates or using them unprescribed needs Narcan around. They even have a nasal spray, you don't have to go hypodermic. It is a lifesaver in the most literal sense, as it will resuscitate virtually any opiate overdose (though some could require a few doses). And yet the sale or distribution to individuals is very difficult if not impossible in most states, including the ones experiencing this dramatic upswing in fatal overdoses. Instead, you've got to call an ambulance to have a paramedic administer the exact same thing, at great expense and the loss of crucial minutes of respiration on the part of the overdosee.
Pharmaceutical fentanyl is one thing, and it's dangerous enough, with plenty of people leaving this world from putting a heat pack on their patch or putting on a second one for breakthrough pain. But part of what's driving the rise in fatal opiate overdoses is the fact that powder heroin is increasingly laced with fentanyl or any number of fentanyl analogs. It's easy to make, cheap to make, and potent as fuck to beef up a bag of B-complex powder and a little bit of heroin; i.e., cartel gold. So only expect to see the number of fentanyl ODs rise as we continue to slog through the War On Drugs.
Good night, sweet Prince. :weep: (Can't believe this just occurred to me now.)
But really, Prince was a genius. If JB was the Godfather of Soul, and MJ was the King of Pop, Prince was indeed the Prince of Pop/Soul. I love his stuff, before and after "Purple Rain." Purple Rain made a good movie too, though its follow-up a few years later was almost an exercise in Surrealism.