Does refusing federal bailout money make one..... disappear? :menace: :shifty: :tinfoil:
QuoteS.C. Gov. Sanford takes a hike... on Appalachian Trail
(Columbia, S.C.) S.C. Gov. Mark Sanford's staff said late Monday that the governor is hiking on the Appalachian Trail, ending four days during which staff and state officials said they had not heard from him.
Neither Sanford's office nor the State Law Enforcement Division, which provides security for governors, had been able to reach Sanford since he left the mansion Thursday in a black Suburban SUV assigned to his security detail, said state Sen. Jake Knotts , R-Lexington, and three others familiar with the situation, but who declined to be identified.
Joel Sawyer, the governor's spokesman would not disclose where on the trail the governor was hiking, nor would he reveal whether Sanford was hiking alone.
Sanford's last known location was near Atlanta late last week. A mobile telephone tower there picked up a signal from his phone, according to a source familiar with the situation.
Since then, the governor's state and personal phones had been turned off, and Sanford had not responded to phone or text messages, a source said. Most mobile phones cannot be tracked if they are turned off.
First lady Jenny Sanford said Monday her husband has been gone for several days over Father's Day weekend and she did not know where.
She said she was not concerned.
"He was writing something and wanted some space to get away from the kids," Jenny Sanford told The Associated Press while vacationing with the couple's four sons at their Sullivan's Island beach house.
The two-term governor is chairman of the Republican Governors Association. This spring, Sanford became known nationally as the most outspoken governor who opposed federal stimulus money. That position won Sanford national attention until he lost a court battle.
Sawyer said Monday the governor told staffers late last week where he was going to be.
"Before leaving last week, he let staff know his whereabouts and that he'd be difficult to reach," Sawyer said in a interview with The State.
:D Supposedly Rush Limbaugh has this guy in his favorites listing for president.
Quote from: alfred russel on June 23, 2009, 08:20:08 AM
:D Supposedly Rush Limbaugh has this guy in his favorites listing for president.
:lol: Yeah right. Anyone who could be governor of South Carolina is obviously unelectable on a national level.
QuoteS.C. Gov. Mark Sanford's staff said late Monday that the governor is hiking on the Appalachian Trail, ending four days during which staff and state officials said they had not heard from him.
That's what they want you to think! :tinfoil:
Why is this such a big deal? So the guy has gone out of pocket for awhile. Supposedly he does this fairly often.
Quote from: Valmy on June 23, 2009, 08:49:18 AM
Why is this such a big deal? So the guy has gone out of pocket for awhile. Supposedly he does this fairly often.
Is it even safe to go into the wilderness alone, never mind without people knowing where you are? Could we end up with a search party combing the southern section of the appalachian trail for a week to find the SC governor who broke his ankle.
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on June 23, 2009, 08:47:53 AM
QuoteS.C. Gov. Mark Sanford's staff said late Monday that the governor is hiking on the Appalachian Trail, ending four days during which staff and state officials said they had not heard from him.
That's what they want you to think! :tinfoil:
:yes: In reality he is "vacationing" at his Crimean dacha.
Quote from: Valmy on June 23, 2009, 08:49:18 AM
Why is this such a big deal? So the guy has gone out of pocket for awhile. Supposedly he does this fairly often.
It is highly irresponsible for a chief executive to do this.
Quote from: Caliga on June 23, 2009, 08:59:24 AM
Quote from: Valmy on June 23, 2009, 08:49:18 AM
Why is this such a big deal? So the guy has gone out of pocket for awhile. Supposedly he does this fairly often.
It is highly irresponsible for a chief executive to do this.
What as soon as you become Governor of a State you cannot just wander off and go hiking for a week or so?
You can go off hiking for a week, but you need to be reachable somehow. What if the legislature decided to secede again, for Crissakes? You never know with those South Carolinians :rolleyes:
Quote from: Valmy on June 23, 2009, 09:02:40 AM
What as soon as you become Governor of a State you cannot just wander off and go hiking for a week or so?
Correct. As a governor, you have responsibilities. You cannot just wander off (though I don't believe for a second that the announced story is true, and wonder just what Sanford was really up to).
It probably isn't coincidental that he disappeared right after the SC legislature overrode all 10 of his vetoes (one of them 144-7!).
Yeah, I expect he'll be resigning or something.
Hopefully he didn't have a heart attack.
"This is the big one. I'm coming to join ya, 'Lizbeth"
Quote from: Caliga on June 23, 2009, 10:34:25 AM
Yeah, I expect he'll be resigning or something.
More likely "something" than resigning. :P
Quote from: derspiess on June 23, 2009, 10:36:56 AM
Hopefully he didn't have a heart attack.
"This is the big one. I'm coming to join ya, 'Lizbeth"
Different Sanford.
Quote from: Caliga on June 23, 2009, 08:58:50 AM
:yes: In reality he is "vacationing" at his Crimean dacha.
:lol:
Quote from: grumbler on June 23, 2009, 10:38:24 AM
Quote from: Caliga on June 23, 2009, 10:34:25 AM
Yeah, I expect he'll be resigning or something.
More likely "something" than resigning. :P
Up your nose with a rubber hose, Mister Kotter :)
I'm assuming this story is politico-speak for "going on a muli-day bender with booze, coke and whores".* :D
*Perfect way to celebrate Father's Day. Not just a Hallmark holiday!
Quote from: Malthus on June 23, 2009, 10:42:39 AM
I'm assuming this story is politico-speak for "going on a muli-day bender with booze, coke and whores".* :D
Unpossible, as politicians never do shit like that. :)
Quote from: Caliga on June 23, 2009, 10:44:31 AM
Quote from: Malthus on June 23, 2009, 10:42:39 AM
I'm assuming this story is politico-speak for "going on a muli-day bender with booze, coke and whores".* :D
Unpossible, as politicians never do shit like that. :)
Of course not.
They "go hiking on the Appalachian Trail". :D
I went hiking on the Appalachian Trail several times, but I failed to get drunk and/or laid. :blush:
Quote from: Caliga on June 23, 2009, 10:46:13 AM
I went hiking on the Appalachian Trail several times, but I failed to get drunk and/or laid. :blush:
Yeah but you went hiking, not "hiking". ;)
Quote from: grumbler on June 23, 2009, 10:32:39 AM
Quote from: Valmy on June 23, 2009, 09:02:40 AM
What as soon as you become Governor of a State you cannot just wander off and go hiking for a week or so?
Correct. As a governor, you have responsibilities. You cannot just wander off (though I don't believe for a second that the announced story is true, and wonder just what Sanford was really up to).
It probably isn't coincidental that he disappeared right after the SC legislature overrode all 10 of his vetoes (one of them 144-7!).
According to Wikipedia, he should be used to that by now:
Sanford sometimes had a contentious relationship with the South Carolina General Assembly, even though it is controlled by his party. The Republican-led SC House of Representatives overrode 105 of Sanford's 106 budget vetoes on May 26, 2004.[9] The following day, Sanford brought live pigs into the House chamber as a visual protest against "pork projects".
Quote from: alfred russel on June 23, 2009, 10:50:48 AM
The following day, Sanford brought live pigs into the House chamber as a visual protest against "pork projects".
How degrading for pigs.
Quote from: alfred russel on June 23, 2009, 08:58:32 AM
Quote from: Valmy on June 23, 2009, 08:49:18 AM
Why is this such a big deal? So the guy has gone out of pocket for awhile. Supposedly he does this fairly often.
Is it even safe to go into the wilderness alone, never mind without people knowing where you are?
Of course it is. The question is, should he have done this? Given that he's the chief executive of a government, and has all kinds of responsibilities, clearly the answer is: No.
Quote from: alfred russel on June 23, 2009, 08:58:32 AM
Quote from: Valmy on June 23, 2009, 08:49:18 AM
Why is this such a big deal? So the guy has gone out of pocket for awhile. Supposedly he does this fairly often.
Is it even safe to go into the wilderness alone, never mind without people knowing where you are? Could we end up with a search party combing the southern section of the appalachian trail for a week to find the SC governor who broke his ankle.
The wilderness? No, not safe.
Anywhere in the eastern US however...
Quote from: Barrister on June 23, 2009, 11:03:25 AMThe wilderness? No, not safe.
Anywhere in the eastern US however...
:lol: There's plenty of wilderness in the eastern US. The eastern US is not just the Boston-Washington urban corridor. :contract:
Quote from: Caliga on June 23, 2009, 11:04:48 AM
Quote from: Barrister on June 23, 2009, 11:03:25 AMThe wilderness? No, not safe.
Anywhere in the eastern US however...
:lol: There's plenty of wilderness in the eastern US. The eastern US is not just the Boston-Washington urban corridor. :contract:
No kidding. Hasn't he seen Deliverance?
Wait a sec.... does the Appalachian Trail even go through South Carolina? :unsure:
I know it passes through the Smokies, and if it continues down that corridor it would not pass within South Carolina.
Quote from: Malthus on June 23, 2009, 10:42:39 AM
I'm assuming this story is politico-speak for "going on a muli-day bender with booze, coke and whores".* :D:
That certainly is what I assume.
Quote from: Caliga on June 23, 2009, 11:08:14 AM
Wait a sec.... does the Appalachian Trail even go through South Carolina? :unsure:
I know it passes through the Smokies, and if it continues down that corridor it would not pass within South Carolina.
I think that governors are allowed to leave their states. The article said the last trace of him was a cell phone signal near Atlanta, so he was probably going through the part of the trail in the Turner Field region.
Quote from: Caliga on June 23, 2009, 11:04:48 AM
Quote from: Barrister on June 23, 2009, 11:03:25 AMThe wilderness? No, not safe.
Anywhere in the eastern US however...
:lol: There's plenty of wilderness in the eastern US. The eastern US is not just the Boston-Washington urban corridor. :contract:
I'm thinking your definition of "wilderness" is a bit different from Dudley Do-right's ;)
And FWIW, I'd say there's relatively little wilderness east of the Rocky Mountains.
Quote from: alfred russel on June 23, 2009, 11:12:15 AM
I think that governors are allowed to leave their states.
Not when there's work to do they aren't, dammit! Roll those sleeves up and get back to work pretending you're working hard! :mad:
Quote from: derspiess on June 23, 2009, 11:14:06 AM
I'm thinking your definition of "wilderness" is a bit different from Dudley Do-right's ;)
And FWIW, I'd say there's relatively little wilderness east of the Rocky Mountains.
I guess it depends on how you'd define 'wilderness'. There is almost no 'untouched wilderness', yes, but there are plenty of large tracts where little to no humans live, such as in the Great Smoky Mountains National Park, Daniel Boone National Forest, the Everglades, etc. To me those all count as wilderness.
Jenny Granholm never does things like this; South Carolina has all the luck. :(
Quote from: Caliga on June 23, 2009, 11:04:48 AM
:lol: There's plenty of wilderness in the eastern US.
:rolleyes:
Just because you call it wilderness doesn't make it so.
Daniel Boone National Forest :wub:
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fen%2Fa%2Fa2%2FDaniel_Boone_National_Forest_Tater_Knob.jpg&hash=175f4ff332b1760eebd005616802ccf33d5103ec)
PREDICTION: This thread is about to become a dick-waving extravaganza. -_-
Quote from: Caliga on June 23, 2009, 11:23:14 AM
PREDICTION: This thread is about to become a dick-waving extravaganza. -_-
-_-
Anyway, I didn't take that pic, but I have plenty of pics from Kentucky and Tennessee that show vast forests practically untouched by man. None of them are primeval forest, to be sure, but I mean human intrusion is very minimal these days.
I've been to Big South Fork National Recreation Area, the Great Smoky Mountains, and the Boone National Forest, among others.
Of course, you might also be able to argue that Mammoth Cave is a true wilderness of sorts. ^_^
Kukulwash Glacier, Kluane National Park. :wub:
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.canada-photos.com%2Fdata%2Fmedia%2F2%2Fglacier-kluane-national-park_261.jpg&hash=7dfa4347b4d5190ec45f5f15bad14d9db4acd976)
Tombstone Territorial Park. :wub:
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dawsoncity.ca%2FImages%2FAnchor%2Fimage-tombstone-park.jpg&hash=a1f5ff5cb4ad5add5d27737079bb82db2a930466)
Caliga, good picture of the Daniel Boone forest! I bet that would be a great place to put up a bunch of condos!! ;) Imagine the scenic vistas the owners would have!
Beeb's pics make me shiver. Therefore, I win. :cool:
Quote from: Caliga on June 23, 2009, 11:27:38 AM
Anyway, I didn't take that pic, but I have plenty of pics from Kentucky and Tennessee that show vast forests practically untouched by man. None of them are primeval forest, to be sure, but I mean human intrusion is very minimal these days.
I've been to Big South Fork National Recreation Area, the Great Smoky Mountains, and the Boone National Forest, among others.
Of course, you might also be able to argue that Mammoth Cave is a true wilderness of sorts. ^_^
To me, wilderness doesn't have to be "untouched", but protected, in that motor vehicles are prohibited, there are significant trees, wildlife, etc.
Quote from: derspiess on June 23, 2009, 11:45:39 AM
To me, wilderness doesn't have to be "untouched", but protected, in that motor vehicles are prohibited, there are significant trees, wildlife, etc.
Disagree.
Most of Yukon (indeed, most of northern Canada) is unprotected. That being said it is completely untouched and trees and wildlife run free.
Why don't more politicians just take a hike?
In fact, being 'protected' means it isn't a wilderness anymore.
Quote from: Barrister on June 23, 2009, 11:29:31 AM
Kukulwash Glacier, Kluane National Park. :wub:
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.canada-photos.com%2Fdata%2Fmedia%2F2%2Fglacier-kluane-national-park_261.jpg&hash=7dfa4347b4d5190ec45f5f15bad14d9db4acd976)
Not "wilderness" except in its loosest definition. :contract:
Wilderness imples the unchecked growth of vegetation (that's the "wild" part).
Quote from: Neil on June 23, 2009, 11:54:58 AM
In fact, being 'protected' means it isn't a wilderness anymore.
Not a natural wilderness, for sure, but it can still be a wilderness.
If it is managed, then it isn't a wilderness. I think we would agree that parks cannot be really called a wilderness.
Quote from: grumbler on June 23, 2009, 12:06:34 PM
I think we would agree that parks cannot be really called a wilderness.
Central Park can get pretty wild after dark.
Quote from: grumbler on June 23, 2009, 12:06:34 PM
Quote from: Neil on June 23, 2009, 11:54:58 AM
In fact, being 'protected' means it isn't a wilderness anymore.
Not a natural wilderness, for sure, but it can still be a wilderness.
If it is managed, then it isn't a wilderness. I think we would agree that parks cannot be really called a wilderness.
Depends on the park.
We have several National Parks that are thereby protected against any development but are otherwise uncontrolled - and indeed are indistinguishable from the surrounding unprotected areas.
Quote from: Barrister on June 23, 2009, 11:51:19 AM
Quote from: derspiess on June 23, 2009, 11:45:39 AM
To me, wilderness doesn't have to be "untouched", but protected, in that motor vehicles are prohibited, there are significant trees, wildlife, etc.
Disagree.
Most of Yukon (indeed, most of northern Canada) is unprotected. That being said it is completely untouched and trees and wildlife run free.
The trees in the Yukon run free! :o
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 23, 2009, 12:17:45 PM
Quote from: Barrister on June 23, 2009, 11:51:19 AM
Quote from: derspiess on June 23, 2009, 11:45:39 AM
To me, wilderness doesn't have to be "untouched", but protected, in that motor vehicles are prohibited, there are significant trees, wildlife, etc.
Disagree.
Most of Yukon (indeed, most of northern Canada) is unprotected. That being said it is completely untouched and trees and wildlife run free.
The trees in the Yukon run free! :o
The annual migrations of the ents is a wonder to behold. -_-
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 23, 2009, 12:17:45 PM
The trees in the Yukon run free! :o
These running trees shall destroy us all! :o
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.secretmuseum.com%2Fblog%2Farchives%2Fents.jpg&hash=20e59b68218fd3fd7241f35f47cf022569d52d1b)
I always thought of true "wilderness" being more or less like what we call Crown Land - that is, land not actually owned or managed by anyone, other than a handful of fire rangers and the like.
Quote from: Valmy on June 23, 2009, 12:21:11 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 23, 2009, 12:17:45 PM
The trees in the Yukon run free! :o
These running trees shall destroy us all! :o
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.secretmuseum.com%2Fblog%2Farchives%2Fents.jpg&hash=20e59b68218fd3fd7241f35f47cf022569d52d1b)
Run, Forest, RUN!
Quote from: grumbler on June 23, 2009, 12:38:39 PM
Quote from: Valmy on June 23, 2009, 12:21:11 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 23, 2009, 12:17:45 PM
The trees in the Yukon run free! :o
These running trees shall destroy us all! :o
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.secretmuseum.com%2Fblog%2Farchives%2Fents.jpg&hash=20e59b68218fd3fd7241f35f47cf022569d52d1b)
Run, Forest, RUN!
:lmfao:
Canadians even have free range forests!? :huh:
Trees running wild and free!!
Quote from: grumbler on June 23, 2009, 12:04:22 PM
Quote from: Barrister on June 23, 2009, 11:29:31 AM
Kukulwash Glacier, Kluane National Park. :wub:
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.canada-photos.com%2Fdata%2Fmedia%2F2%2Fglacier-kluane-national-park_261.jpg&hash=7dfa4347b4d5190ec45f5f15bad14d9db4acd976)
Not "wilderness" except in its loosest definition. :contract:
Wilderness imples the unchecked growth of vegetation (that's the "wild" part).
wil·der·ness (wldr-ns)
n.
1. An unsettled, uncultivated region left in its natural condition, especially:
- a. A large wild tract of land covered with dense vegetation or forests.
- b. An extensive area, such as a desert or ocean, that is barren or empty; a waste.
- c. A piece of land set aside to grow wild.
2. Something characterized by bewildering vastness, perilousness, or unchecked profusion: the wilderness of the city; the wilderness of counterespionage; a wilderness of voices.
I think we can agree that it's certainly unsettled and uncultivated, although its natural condition may be up for debate. What he said was technically correct. Moreover, as the high mountain top shown on the picture is surrounded by a lower, densely vegetated area, I think it would still fit into your more narrow definition.
Quote from: grumbler on June 23, 2009, 12:06:34 PM
If it is managed, then it isn't a wilderness. I think we would agree that parks cannot be really called a wilderness.
To be sure.
Yeah, he was on a trail, alright; but it wasn't Appalachian. It was pussy.
I can imagine BB down in the Everglades beating his chest about the lack of wilderness as an alligator eats him.
Quote from: Razgovory on June 23, 2009, 06:50:30 PM
I can imagine BB down in the Everglades beating his chest about the lack of wilderness as an alligator eats him.
An alligator whose tag he reads as he slides down its gullet...
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 23, 2009, 05:46:43 PM
Yeah, he was on a trail, alright; but it wasn't Appalachian. It was pussy.
I was thinking white powder and a kitty. :yes:
LULZ
QuoteSanford met in Atlanta after returning from South America
Governor says he never hiked Appalachian Trail; says he cruised along the coast of Buenos Aires to unwind after stressful legislative session
By GINA SMITH - [email protected]
ATLANTA -- Gov. Mark Sanford arrived in the Hartsville-Jackson International Airport this morning, having wrapped up a seven-day visit to Buenos Aires, Argentina, he said. Sanford said he had not been hiking along the Appalachian Trail, as his staff said in a Tuesday statement to the media.
Sanford's whereabouts had been unknown since Thursday, and the mystery surrounding his absence fueled speculation about where he had been and who's in charge in his absence. His emergence Wednesday ended the mystery.
Sanford, in an exclusive interview with The State Media Company, said he decided at the last minute to go to the South American country to recharge after a difficult legislative session in which he battled with lawmakers over how to spend federal stimulus money.
Accounts of Gov. Mark Sanford's four-day walkabout from his public duties remain unclear and, in some instances, contradictory. A look at what is known and how accounts by Sanford's staff have changed as word of his mystery trip became known and public officials became alarmed:
Thursday
Sanford leaves the Governor's Mansion in a black State Law Enforcement Division Suburban assigned to his security detail. A precise time is unavailable.
A mobile telephone tower in Atlanta near Hartsfield airport picks up a signal from Sanford's phone. It is the last signal before his phones are turned off for days.
Friday
Law enforcement officials get no response to phone and text messages sent to Sanford.
Saturday
The governor's office reports to police that there is no reason for concern but provides no details.
State Sen. Jake Knotts, R-Lexington, calls SLED chief Reggie Lloyd about rumors that no one knows where Sanford is and no one can reach him. Lloyd confirms that Sanford's whereabouts are known
Sunday
Lt. Gov. Andre Bauer learns Sanford's whereabouts are unknown.
Monday
Monday morning — Reporters hear rumors that Sanford's location is a mystery.
2:30 p.m. Knotts issues a statement raising questions about Sanford's absence, asking who is in charge of the executive branch of S.C. government.
2:40 p.m. The State newspaper posts an online article saying Sanford has been out of reach for four days.
2:50 p.m. The governor's office issues a statement that Sanford "is taking some time away from the office this week to recharge after the stimulus battle. ... We are not going to discuss the specifics."
3 p.m. The Associated Press reports that first lady Jenny Sanford says she does not know where her husband is, but he is taking time away from their four boys, "to write something." She says she is not worried.
Midafternoon Sanford security officials are told by the governor's office that he is OK. No details are provided.
3:40 p.m. The lieutenant governor's office says Sanford's office says it has spoken to Sanford and knows where he is.
About 5 p.m. Sawyer denies that Sanford staffers told Bauer's office that someone had spoken with the governor.
5 p.m. As media inquiries escalate to include national news outlets, Sanford spokesman Joel Sawyer issues another statement. It says in part, "Before leaving last week, (Sanford) let staff know his whereabouts and that he'd be difficult to reach." He declines to elaborate. Sawyer also doesn't know whether Sanford is still in the country.
10:05 p.m. The governor's office issues a statement saying Sanford is hiking on the Appalachian Trail. Staff members do not know where Sanford is on the trail and will not say whether he is hiking with anyone.
Tuesday
9:42 a.m. The governor's office issues a statement saying staffers have spoken with Sanford and he will return to work today.
Sanford said he had considered hiking on the Appalachian Trail, an activity he said he has enjoyed since he was a high school student.
"But I said 'no' I wanted to do something exotic," Sanford said "... It's a great city."
Sanford, in a brief interview in the nation's busiest airport, said he has been to the city twice before, most recently about a year and half ago during a Commerce Department trip.
Sanford said he was alone on the trip. He declined to give any additional details about what he did other than to say he drove along the coastline.
Sanford, who was wearing a blue and white button down shirt and brown denim pants, said he left for Buenos Aires on Thursday night from Columbia International Airport and had originally planned to come back tomorrow.
Media reports said a SLED SUV the governor drove that night was spotted in the airport's parking lot.
The governor said he cut his trip short after his chief of staff, Scott English, told him his trip was gaining a lot of media attention and he needed to come back.
When asked why his staff said he was on the Appalachian Trail, Sanford replied, "I don't know."
Sanford later said "in fairness to his staff," he had told them he might go hiking on the Appalachian Trial.
Sanford said he decided not to return via the Columbia airport to avoid the media. The State Media Company was the only media who greeted Sanford this morning.
"I don't know how this thing got blown out of proportion," Sanford said.
Sanford said he has taken adventure trips for years to unwind. He has visited such places as the coast of Turkey, the Greek Isles and South America. He was with friends sometimes and sometimes by himself.
"I would get out of the bubble I am in." Sanford said.
Sanford said the legislative session was a difficult one for him, particularly losing the fight over whether he should accept stimulus $700 million in stimulus money he wanted lawmakers to spend on debt instead of urgent budget needs.
"It was a long session and I needed a break," Sanford said.
After a brief conversation with a reporter, Sanford was escorted away by an aide.
Yeah, right. You went to Buenos Aires for an innocent vacation and didn't take your wife? Have fun sleeping on the couch for the next month, douche.
This dude sounds awesome. :)
Quote from: DisturbedPervert on June 24, 2009, 07:59:37 AM
This dude sounds awesome. :)
Well, people keep saying he's a presidential wannabe, but after this there's no way in hell I'd vote for him no matter what else he might bring to the table. He's obviously both a pathological liar and a very poor manager. I can take the pathological liar part (as virtually everyone in politics is), but not coupled with his bad management skills.
I'm not saying I'd vote for him, I just think he sounds likes a fun dude. :D
I'd vote for him. Then again, I'd vote for a lump of coal.
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 24, 2009, 08:08:37 AM
I'd vote for him. Then again, I'd vote for a lump of coal.
:lol: You're a hoot.
If I were elected to national or state office, one of my campaign promises would be that I will disappear for days at a time and nobody will know where I am. And nobody better fucking look for me. There's a Lt Gov for that shit. :P
What are the odds there is another shoe to drop, either in this story or his personal life? I say it is less than 50-50, but I won't be shocked if it comes out he was in Argentina visiting gay clubs or something.
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on June 24, 2009, 11:27:29 AM
If I were elected to national or state office, one of my campaign promises would be that I will disappear for days at a time and nobody will know where I am. And nobody better fucking look for me. There's a Lt Gov for that shit. :P
I can just see it if a Languishite was elected to high office: 'Governor vanishes for marathon WoW playing session, leaves Lt Gov in charge.'
Quote from: Habsburg on June 23, 2009, 08:17:55 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 23, 2009, 05:46:43 PM
Yeah, he was on a trail, alright; but it wasn't Appalachian. It was pussy.
I was thinking white powder and a kitty. :yes:
Hello? I am good.
Quote from: Habsburg on June 24, 2009, 01:41:50 PM
Hello? I am good.
Yup.
QuoteSouth Carolina Governor Mark Sanford, whose mysterious disappearance last Thursday prompted national headlines, acknowledged this afternoon that he had an extramarital affair.
"I've been unfaithful to my wife, and I developed a relationship with what started as a dear, dear friend from Argentina," he said.
Sanford said he would resign as chair of the Republican Governor's Association.
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/06/24/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry5110133.shtml
I want to see if it was a woman or a man.
Quote from: alfred russel on June 24, 2009, 11:32:01 AM
What are the odds there is another shoe to drop, either in this story or his personal life? I say it is less than 50-50, but I won't be shocked if it comes out he was in Argentina visiting gay clubs or something.
There has to be another shoe, simply because no one will be satisfied with the moronic explanation that he provided.
The moronic explanation of him banging some Argentine broad for 8 years? :unsure:
What's up with republicanswho chair crap getting into trouble. Is it really a MSM media thing like Hans would say where they only check up on conservatives, or are they just really bad at not getting caught?
Quote from: DGuller on June 24, 2009, 01:48:17 PM
There has to be another shoe, simply because no one will be satisfied with the moronic explanation that he provided.
Appalachia! *slap*
Argentina! *slap*
Appalachia! *slap*
Argentina! *slap*
I was in Appalachia AND Argentina!!! *cries*
*head shot of Jack Nicholson looking disgusted*
Quote from: HVC on June 24, 2009, 01:51:41 PM
What's up with republicanswho chair crap getting into trouble. Is it really a MSM media thing like Hans would say where they only check up on conservatives, or are they just really bad at not getting caught?
In this case, really bad at getting caught. The governor of a state disappears and he is found out by people asking where he is? So far this hasn't taken a lot of detective work.
Bet Hans voted for him. And it's totally unfair the MSM keeps showing Republicans who fuck around on their wives. Where's the coverage on all the GOPtards who stay faithful huh?
Quote from: Habsburg on June 24, 2009, 01:41:50 PM
Quote from: Habsburg on June 23, 2009, 08:17:55 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 23, 2009, 05:46:43 PM
Yeah, he was on a trail, alright; but it wasn't Appalachian. It was pussy.
I was thinking white powder and a kitty. :yes:
Hello? I am good.
Pfft, long beaten to the punch by others. :contract:
QuoteI'm assuming this story is politico-speak for "going on a muli-day bender with booze, coke and whores".*
*Perfect way to celebrate Father's Day. Not just a Hallmark holiday!
Quote from: Habbaku on June 24, 2009, 01:50:15 PM
The moronic explanation of him banging some Argentine broad for 8 years? :unsure:
I was obviously one shoe drop behind when posting that reply.
Well that fell apart faster than I anticipated.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 24, 2009, 02:17:19 PM
Well that fell apart faster than I anticipated.
I thought it might hold together, just because that was so incredibly stupid.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 24, 2009, 02:17:19 PM
Well that fell apart faster than I anticipated.
Republicans are pretty damn bad at extra-marital affairs, it seems.
Quote from: Habbaku on June 24, 2009, 02:20:04 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 24, 2009, 02:17:19 PM
Well that fell apart faster than I anticipated.
Republicans are pretty damn bad at extra-marital affairs, it seems.
I'm assuming that he simply lost track, to the extent that it was impossible for others to ignore or cover up his indiscretion. Easy to do if you do too much coke.
"What, it's 5 in the AM on
Tuesday?!? And I'm in
Brazil?! Well, shit."
Quote from: Habbaku on June 24, 2009, 02:20:04 PM
Republicans are pretty damn bad at extra-marital affairs, it seems.
The Argentine lady needs to give an AAR before we can come to that conclusion.
Quote from: alfred russel on June 24, 2009, 02:29:33 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on June 24, 2009, 02:20:04 PM
Republicans are pretty damn bad at extra-marital affairs, it seems.
The Argentine lady needs to give an AAR before we can come to that conclusion.
Brilliant :lmfao:
Yay. Another family values failure. :P
Republicans sure are bad at concealing their affairs, however. Disappearing for a week while being in the public eye is not the best strategy for staying under the radar.
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on June 24, 2009, 02:32:43 PM
Yay. Another family values failure. :P
You don't value something until you no longer have it.
Quote from: alfred russel on June 24, 2009, 02:29:33 PM
The Argentine lady needs to give an AAR before we can come to that conclusion.
:D It's been going on for a long while, so he can't be that bad.
Quote from: DGuller on June 24, 2009, 02:34:09 PM
Republicans sure are bad at concealing their affairs, however. Disappearing for a week while being in the public eye is not the best strategy for staying under the radar.
Cheney did it for months at a time.
Oh :huh: I thought he was a woman!
Given this wacky story, I'm thinking more may be revealed. :frog:
Any bets as to how long before "her" identity is revealed & pic broadcast all over the media?
Quote from: DGuller on June 24, 2009, 02:34:09 PM
Republicans sure are bad at concealing their affairs, however. Disappearing for a week while being in the public eye is not the best strategy for staying under the radar.
But at least this is a sign Republicans can connect with Latin Americans.
Quote from: alfred russel on June 24, 2009, 02:43:24 PM
But at least this is a sign Republicans can connect with Latin Americans.
:lmfao:
Quote from: alfred russel on June 24, 2009, 02:43:24 PM
Quote from: DGuller on June 24, 2009, 02:34:09 PM
Republicans sure are bad at concealing their affairs, however. Disappearing for a week while being in the public eye is not the best strategy for staying under the radar.
But at least this is a sign Republicans can connect with Latin Americans.
Shows a certain adeptness at foreign affairs; but one would think that, for a presidential hopeful, it would be more important to poll the latina electorate at home.
So Governor Sanford had disappeared on a kinky escapade with his Argentinean lover. Who woulda thunk it! :w00t:
I'd still vote for him.
Fuckin hypocrite. He wouldn't accept stimulus from Obama, but accepted stimulus from some Argentine hussy. Country first.
You gotta love Fox News:
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Nice hairdo on the left.
Quote from: Habbaku on June 24, 2009, 02:20:04 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 24, 2009, 02:17:19 PM
Well that fell apart faster than I anticipated.
Republicans are pretty damn bad at extra-marital affairs, it seems.
Not always. Henry Hyde was doing a married woman and successfully dismissed it as a youthful indiscretion, him being a young lad of 40something at the time.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 24, 2009, 03:10:35 PM
Quote from: derspiess on June 24, 2009, 03:08:39 PM
:huh:
:huh: You don't have the same do I hope.
Which guy are you talking about? The one with the sunglasses?
Quote from: derspiess on June 24, 2009, 03:15:20 PM
Which guy are you talking about? The one with the sunglasses?
Dude with the landing strip plowed through the high and tight.
edit: Which picture are you looking at? :huh:
Quote from: derspiess on June 24, 2009, 03:15:20 PM
Which guy are you talking about? The one with the sunglasses?
Are you even looking at the same picture as we are?
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 24, 2009, 03:16:22 PM
Quote from: derspiess on June 24, 2009, 03:15:20 PM
Which guy are you talking about? The one with the sunglasses?
Dude with the landing strip plowed through the high and tight.
edit: Which picture are you looking at? :huh:
looks like sunglasses on his head to me.
Quote from: HVC on June 24, 2009, 03:17:58 PM
looks like sunglasses on his head to me.
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:D Shit, my bad. Takes back sunglasses dude.
Quote from: Vince on June 24, 2009, 03:05:29 PM
You gotta love Fox News:
Hehe I guess they decided he was no longer worthy of being a Republican.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 24, 2009, 03:19:28 PM
:D Shit, my bad. Takes back sunglasses dude.
:blush: I was fooled as well.
Quote from: Valmy on June 24, 2009, 03:19:55 PM
Quote from: Vince on June 24, 2009, 03:05:29 PM
You gotta love Fox News:
Hehe I guess they decided he was no longer worthy of being a Republican.
If Fox News could have gotten him to come out in blackface they could have replaced Mark Sanford with Barack Obama. But I guess Sanford has too much class for that.
Quote from: Habbaku on June 24, 2009, 03:29:39 PM
:blush: I was fooled as well.
:D That pic should be in a personality test.
Quote from: Vince on June 24, 2009, 03:05:29 PM
You gotta love Fox News:
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Why do they keep doing stuff like this? Surely it's intentional, because such screenshots are almost a predictable part of any Republican scandal?
It is almost like Fox News works to be a self-parody.
Quote from: Valmy on June 24, 2009, 03:19:55 PM
Quote from: Vince on June 24, 2009, 03:05:29 PM
You gotta love Fox News:
Hehe I guess they decided he was no longer worthy of being a Republican.
They made the same "mistake" with Mark Foley. Rumor has it that Fox knew about this but sat on the story.
Quote from: Valmy on June 24, 2009, 03:47:03 PM
It is almost like Fox News works to be a self-parody.
That's exactly what it looks like.
Yeah, no other networks make dumb mistakes :rolleyes:
Quote from: derspiess on June 24, 2009, 04:25:29 PM
Yeah, no other networks make dumb mistakes :rolleyes:
The problem is that there is a clear pattern behind such "dumb mistakes", which makes it more like intentional juvenile behavior.
Quote from: derspiess on June 24, 2009, 04:25:29 PM
Yeah, no other networks make dumb mistakes :rolleyes:
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And now email leaks. (there are more, but this is for Caliga)
http://www.thestate.com/sanford/story/839350.html
QuoteFrom Gov. Sanford,
Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 12:24 a.m.
"One, tomorrow leave at 5 a.m. for New York and meetings. Will think about you on its streets and wish I was going to be there later in the month when you are there. Tomorrow night back to Philadelphia for the start of the National Governor's Conference through the weekend. Back to Columbia for Tuesday and then on Wednesday, as I think I had told you, taking the family to China, Tibet, Nepal, India, Thailand and then back through Hong Kong on world wind tour. Few days home then to Bahamas for 5 days on a friend's boat for the last break of the summer. The following weekend have been asked to spend it out in Aspen, Colorado with McCain - which has kicked up the whole VP talk all over again in the press back home ...
Two, mutual feelings .... You have a particular grace and calm that I adore. You have a level of sophistication that so fitting with your beauty. I could digress and say that you have the ability to give magnificent gentle kisses, or that I love your tan lines or that I love the curve of your hips, the erotic beauty of you holding yourself (or two magnificent parts of yourself) in the faded glow of the night's light - but hey, that would be going into sexual details ...
Three and finally, while all the things above are all too true - at the same time we are in a hopelessly - or as you put it impossible - or how about combine and simply say hopelessly impossible situation of love. How in the world this lightening strike snuck up on us I am still not quite sure. As I have said to you before I certainly had a special feeling about you from the first time we met, but these feelings were contained and I genuinely enjoyed our special friendship and the comparing of all too many personal notes ...
Lastly I also suspect I feel a little vulnerable because this is ground I have never certainly never covered before - so if you have pearls of wisdom on how we figure all this out please let me know... In the meantime please sleep soundly knowing that despite the best efforts of my head my heart cries out for you, your voice, your body, the touch of your lips, the touch of your finger tips and an even deeper connection to your soul."
Quote from: alfred russel on June 24, 2009, 04:52:48 PM
And now email leaks. (there are more, but this is for Caliga)
http://www.thestate.com/sanford/story/839350.html
QuoteFrom Gov. Sanford,
Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 12:24 a.m.
"One, tomorrow leave at 5 a.m. for New York and meetings. Will think about you on its streets and wish I was going to be there later in the month when you are there. Tomorrow night back to Philadelphia for the start of the National Governor's Conference through the weekend. Back to Columbia for Tuesday and then on Wednesday, as I think I had told you, taking the family to China, Tibet, Nepal, India, Thailand and then back through Hong Kong on world wind tour. Few days home then to Bahamas for 5 days on a friend's boat for the last break of the summer. The following weekend have been asked to spend it out in Aspen, Colorado with McCain - which has kicked up the whole VP talk all over again in the press back home ...
Two, mutual feelings .... You have a particular grace and calm that I adore. You have a level of sophistication that so fitting with your beauty. I could digress and say that you have the ability to give magnificent gentle kisses, or that I love your tan lines or that I love the curve of your hips, the erotic beauty of you holding yourself (or two magnificent parts of yourself) in the faded glow of the night's light - but hey, that would be going into sexual details ...
Three and finally, while all the things above are all too true - at the same time we are in a hopelessly - or as you put it impossible - or how about combine and simply say hopelessly impossible situation of love. How in the world this lightening strike snuck up on us I am still not quite sure. As I have said to you before I certainly had a special feeling about you from the first time we met, but these feelings were contained and I genuinely enjoyed our special friendship and the comparing of all too many personal notes ...
Lastly I also suspect I feel a little vulnerable because this is ground I have never certainly never covered before - so if you have pearls of wisdom on how we figure all this out please let me know... In the meantime please sleep soundly knowing that despite the best efforts of my head my heart cries out for you, your voice, your body, the touch of your lips, the touch of your finger tips and an even deeper connection to your soul."
It reminds me of Robert Browning's letters to Elizabeth Barrett. :)
Quote from: alfred russel on June 24, 2009, 04:52:48 PM
And now email leaks. (there are more, but this is for Caliga)
Jesus, these guys really need to learn how to portion it out gradually. I expect sex tape before the day is out, if they keep up this pace.
Quote from: DGuller on June 24, 2009, 05:03:28 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on June 24, 2009, 04:52:48 PM
And now email leaks. (there are more, but this is for Caliga)
Jesus, these guys really need to learn how to portion it out gradually. I expect sex tape before the day is out, if they keep up this pace.
We demand pics of those two magnificent parts. :contract:
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 23, 2009, 05:46:43 PM
Yeah, he was on a trail, alright; but it wasn't Appalachian. It was pussy.
So, what do I win?
Quote from: Savonarola on June 24, 2009, 04:54:58 PMIt reminds me of Robert Browning's letters to Elizabeth Barrett. :)
Much more tasteful than that fag Congressman sending emails to his male interns. ZOMG U R SO HAWT TODAY BOI
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 24, 2009, 05:07:12 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 23, 2009, 05:46:43 PM
Yeah, he was on a trail, alright; but it wasn't Appalachian. It was pussy.
So, what do I win?
You were scooped, though. I called it first. ;)
Quote from: derspiess on June 24, 2009, 04:25:29 PM
Yeah, no other networks make dumb mistakes :rolleyes:
CBS hired Dan Rather; FOX can't compete with that. :(
Quote from: Savonarola on June 24, 2009, 05:19:03 PM
Quote from: derspiess on June 24, 2009, 04:25:29 PM
Yeah, no other networks make dumb mistakes :rolleyes:
CBS hired Dan Rather; FOX can't compete with that. :(
I sorta miss Dan now, and his HD show just isn't the same. :(
Running off to go traveling alone, and maybe banging some new chicks while there was cool, but this is boring. He's lost my support.
Quote from: Malthus on June 24, 2009, 05:06:54 PMWe demand pics of those two magnificent parts. :contract:
I'm sure we'll have them within 24 hours. :)
Quote from: Caliga on June 24, 2009, 06:05:29 PM
Quote from: Malthus on June 24, 2009, 05:06:54 PMWe demand pics of those two magnificent parts. :contract:
I'm sure we'll have them within 24 hours. :)
The chick in question better be deleting her Facebook account as we speak. As soon as a name comes out, it's all over. :lol:
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on June 24, 2009, 06:08:53 PMThe chick in question better be deleting her Facebook account as we speak. As soon as a name comes out, it's all over. :lol:
So, any guesses as to her age? 24 sounds like a good guess to me.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 24, 2009, 05:07:12 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 23, 2009, 05:46:43 PM
Yeah, he was on a trail, alright; but it wasn't Appalachian. It was pussy.
So, what do I win?
I beat you to that by a mile.
Quote from: Caliga on June 24, 2009, 06:09:42 PM
So, any guesses as to her age? 24 sounds like a good guess to me.
He met her 8 years ago, and she was married at the time.
Quote from: Phillip V on June 24, 2009, 06:39:23 PM
Quote from: Caliga on June 24, 2009, 06:09:42 PM
So, any guesses as to her age? 24 sounds like a good guess to me.
He met her 8 years ago, and she was married at the time.
*shrug* It's Argentina. EH, SPIESS? ;)
His talk was kind of pathetic--I guess for PR reasons you need to address the public in an emotional way and drag religion into the conversation, but could you imagine how weird it would be if someone called all of his friends together and had a similar confession about an affair?
*shrug* Not sure it matters anymore. His career is definitely over. He'll probably go off and do fake humanitarian shit now like John Edwards and hope it makes people forgive him and let him get back to holding power over people which he so desperately craves. :)
Having just watched the press conference, I wonder about the guy's mental health (unless he has always been such a rambling, incoherent speaker) and I guess if he offed himself in the near future it wouldn't surprise me. :mellow:
Quote from: Caliga on June 24, 2009, 07:29:39 PM
Having just watched the press conference, I wonder about the guy's mental health (unless he has always been such a rambling, incoherent speaker) and I guess if he offed himself in the near future it wouldn't surprise me. :mellow:
You gonna watch all the future press conferences to see if you catch the Budd Dwyer moment?
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on June 24, 2009, 07:39:03 PMYou gonna watch all the future press conferences to see if you catch the Budd Dwyer moment?
:yes: HEY MAN, NICE SHOT. :punk:
So here's my theory. The Lt Gov and the Gov don't like each other much. Gov's wife endorsed Lt Gov's opponent in the last primary race I heard. The relationship has been not close. Lt Gov finds out Gov isn't gonna be hiking the 'Trail and decides it's his moment to backstab. He pretends to freak out because he can't reach the Gov while he's away, probably knowing he isn't where he says he was going to be. Chief of staff tried to cover for Gov, but fails because Lt Gov came out with that statement saying Mrs. Gov didn't know where he was. Possibly Lt Gov contacted her before that statement came out. I bet he loved that call. Everything gets blown open and Gov will be ruined, Lt Gov takes over as First Man in Columbia.
Could be. Someone leaked emails between the guv and the First Concubine to the press down there.
*checks* Oh dear. He's another Bible-thumping family values nut, just like Sanford.... and he's single. He's clearly a closet homosexual. :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlCqkMVgCbs&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlCqkMVgCbs&feature=related)
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Imagine if he was having an affair with Stanford's wife! :D
Doubtful. First of all, Sanford's wife supported his opponent in the last Lt. Gov. race. Second of all, she lacks a penis.
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 24, 2009, 05:19:55 PM
I sorta miss Dan now, and his HD show just isn't the same. :(
Courage.
Mitt Romney must be chuckling. A family man and awesome businessman. He was my GOP man in 2008, and if Obama falters, Romney just may be the man in 2012.
Romney 2012! :w00t:
Quote from: Phillip V on June 24, 2009, 10:26:23 PM
Mitt Romney must be chuckling. A family man and awesome businessman. He was my GOP man in 2008, and if Obama falters, Romney just may be the man in 2012.
Romney 2012! :w00t:
No Mormons. Ever.
It was kinda funny watching the footage of Rushbo's show today, when he just kept shaking his head and saying over and over, "Scratch another one...he coulda been our JFK...he coulda been our JFK..."
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 24, 2009, 10:31:42 PM
It was kinda funny watching the footage of Rushbo's show today, when he just kept shaking his head and saying over and over, "Scratch another one...he coulda been our JFK...he coulda been our JFK..."
Link?
Quote from: Phillip V on June 24, 2009, 10:34:05 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 24, 2009, 10:31:42 PM
It was kinda funny watching the footage of Rushbo's show today, when he just kept shaking his head and saying over and over, "Scratch another one...he coulda been our JFK...he coulda been our JFK..."
Link?
It was on Olbermann's show tonight.
A GOP governor on the ropes? You better believe I watched Olbermann tonight.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 24, 2009, 10:31:42 PM
It was kinda funny watching the footage of Rushbo's show today, when he just kept shaking his head and saying over and over, "Scratch another one...he coulda been our JFK...he coulda been our JFK..."
I saw this guy's press conferance. The guy is fucking boring to listen to.
This chick had better be damned hot.
He should take all his cash and run to Argentina.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 24, 2009, 10:29:41 PMNo Mormons. Ever.
:lol:
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NO... LIAR... MORMONS... EVER!!!!
Another "family values" politician, who believes traditional marriage is between one woman, her husband and his mistress. :lol:
Conservatives, they wallow in hypocrisy like pigs wallow in their own shit ^_^
G.
Quote from: Grallon on June 25, 2009, 06:39:25 AM
Conservatives, they wallow in hypocrisy like pigs wallow in their own shit ^_^
Is hypocrisy a bad thing all of the sudden?
At any rate, there's nothing wrong with heterosexual affairs.
According to a couple of edits on Wikipedia that have been repeatedly deleted, the mistress's name is María Belén Chapur.
Quote from: Caliga on June 25, 2009, 07:35:37 AM
According to a couple of edits on Wikipedia that have been repeatedly deleted, the mistress's name is María Belén Chapur.
According to a quick search, she'd be an "attractive brunette", 43 y.o., divorced and mother of two, who works as an executive for an agrobussiness company.
Quote from: Phillip V on June 24, 2009, 10:26:23 PM
Mitt Romney must be chuckling. A family man and awesome businessman. He was my GOP man in 2008, and if Obama falters, Romney just may be the man in 2012.
Romney 2012! :w00t:
I would sooner elect a Sikh than a Mormon.
Sanford went on a commerce trip to South America last year around this time... maybe that's when he met her. He claimed he's known her for 8 years, but everything the guy says is probably a lie, so who knows.
Quote from: Neil on June 25, 2009, 07:15:59 AM
Quote from: Grallon on June 25, 2009, 06:39:25 AM
Conservatives, they wallow in hypocrisy like pigs wallow in their own shit ^_^
Is hypocrisy a bad thing all of the sudden?
At any rate, there's nothing wrong with heterosexual affairs.
Did your wife tell you that?
Quote from: Valmy on June 25, 2009, 07:40:23 AM
Quote from: Phillip V on June 24, 2009, 10:26:23 PM
Mitt Romney must be chuckling. A family man and awesome businessman. He was my GOP man in 2008, and if Obama falters, Romney just may be the man in 2012.
Romney 2012! :w00t:
I would sooner elect a Sikh than a Mormon.
Mormons have a proper attitude concerning homosexuals.
Quote from: Neil on June 25, 2009, 07:42:54 AM
Mormons have a proper attitude concerning homosexuals.
I know you have been finding your inner Martinus lately but not everything is life is about gays.
Quote from: The Larch on June 25, 2009, 07:40:16 AM
According to a quick search, she'd be an "attractive brunette", 43 y.o., divorced and mother of two, who works as an executive for an agrobussiness company.
If she's a female executive for that sort of business, there's no question she's hot. It's a job requirement.
Quote from: Valmy on June 25, 2009, 07:44:00 AM
Quote from: Neil on June 25, 2009, 07:42:54 AM
Mormons have a proper attitude concerning homosexuals.
I know you have been finding your inner Martinus lately but not everything is life is about gays.
Everything in life falls into two categories:
Dreadnought battleships.
Confounding my enemies.
Gays are in the second category.
Quote from: Caliga on June 25, 2009, 07:35:37 AM
According to a couple of edits on Wikipedia that have been repeatedly deleted, the mistress's name is María Belén Chapur.
Argie media don't seem to be cooperating-- can't find a pic anywhere :mad:
edit: at least they finally figured out how to spell Sanford's name right :D
Quote from: derspiess on June 25, 2009, 08:30:23 AM
Argie media don't seem to be cooperating-- can't find a pic anywhere :mad:
Booo! This political scandal is worthless without pics.
Our own governor weighs in:
QuoteGranholm says S.C. governor's actions concern her
ASSOCIATED PRESS • June 25, 2009
LANSING — Michigan's governor says she's concerned about South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford's decision to take a trip abroad without alerting those responsible in his absence.
She told MSNBC on Wednesday that it's a given a governor must "make sure that the line of authority is established when you leave the state."
Sanford, a Republican, returned Wednesday to South Carolina and told a newspaper he'd been in Argentina. His staff had said he was hiking the Appalachian Trail. Sanford said he had considered hiking the trail but changed his mind.
At a tearful news conference Wednesday, Sanford admitted to an affair with a woman from Argentina.
Granholm, a Democrat, says she likes Sanford but was concerned he was out of touch for days without letting most officials, including the lieutenant governor, know his whereabouts.
Granholm made the comments before Sanford revealed the affair.
I don't see why she is concerned by this. No one would be worried if Jenny disappeared for good.
Quote from: Savonarola on June 25, 2009, 08:46:46 AM
I don't see why she is concerned by this. No one would be worried if Jenny disappeared for good.
The taxpayers up there would appreciate it.
Half of South Carolina says that Sanford should resign.
QuoteHalf of South Carolina residents say GOP Gov. Mark Sanford, who admitted to an extramarital affair on Wednesday, should resign from office, according to a new InsiderAdvantage poll.
The survey, conducted just hours after the governor's emotional press conference at the statehouse, found 50 percent of South Carolina voters want him to resign while 42 percent said he should remain in office. Another 8 percent had no opinion.
Voters were nearly evenly split on the question of whether Sanford, who left the state for five days to visit his mistress in Argentina but deceived his staff and the public about his whereabouts, should face impeachment by the state legislature. Although 45 percent supported impeachment, another 46 percent were opposed. Nine percent had no opinion.
But even after acknowledging the year-long affair, Sanford, who until recently had been widely seen as a potential GOP presidential contender in 2012, still enjoyed a relatively high job approval rating. The automated poll found that 47 percent of South Carolina voters approved of his job performance while 45 percent disapproved.
That's slightly lower than his ratings from one day ago – before his tearful confession – when a separate InsiderAdvantage poll showed the two-term governor holding onto a 53 percent job performance approval rating compared with 44 percent who disapproved.
The poll, conducted Wednesday evening, surveyed 926 registered voters and has a 3.2 percent margin of error.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0609/24202.html (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0609/24202.html)
The other half is waiting for pics of this lady. :)
Apparently, she's pretty.
Quote
ASSOCIATED PRESS
Last updated: 2:59 pm
South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford's mistress is a 43-year-old employee of an international agriculture company who speaks several languages and lives in an upscale apartment building in Buenos Aires, Argentina, local media there are reporting.
Though details are sparse, Terra Noticias reported Thursday that the woman's name is Maria Belen Shapur and she works for the international agribusiness firm Bunge y Born.
The newspaper, along with Buenos Aires Continental Radio, reported that she lives next to the Buenos Aires Zoo in a 14-story building. A witness who works in the building described her as a beautiful brunette with big eyes who plays tennis on a nearby lawn and runs every morning in her neighborhood.
The witness told the radio station that Sanford arrived at the complex, alone, with a small sports bag last week and asked to go inside the building.
Sanford admitted Wednesday to having an affair over the last year and covering up a secret trip to visit his mistress last week. The admission rocked the South Carolina political scene and has also captured the attention of the Buenos Aires media, as the governor provided few details about his lover.
Terra Noticias reported that Belen speaks English, Portuguese and Chinese, and that the company she supposedly works for is massive, with 25,000 employees in more than 30 countries, including 1,000 in Argentina, according to a profile on the Bunge Limited Web site.
Nice catch. I would fall for such a woman, too... if I was single.
Quote from: Caliga on June 25, 2009, 02:06:54 PM
The other half is waiting for pics of this lady. :)
get to work, paparazzi!
QuoteOne of the biggest search phrases on the internet Thursday is "Maria Belen Shapur Photo"
... hmm. is she part persian? rwwl.
Quote from: saskganesh on June 25, 2009, 02:43:07 PM
Quote from: Caliga on June 25, 2009, 02:06:54 PM
The other half is waiting for pics of this lady. :)
get to work, paparazzi!
QuoteOne of the biggest search phrases on the internet Thursday is "Maria Belen Shapur Photo"
Wouldn't it be awesome if they just let her be and a picture of her never came out? (yeah, I know that will never happen)
Quote from: saskganesh on June 25, 2009, 02:44:02 PM
... hmm. is she part persian? rwwl.
What if, against all odds, she was black? That would throw everyone in South Carolina for a curve.
Quote from: alfred russel on June 25, 2009, 02:45:01 PM
Quote from: saskganesh on June 25, 2009, 02:43:07 PM
Quote from: Caliga on June 25, 2009, 02:06:54 PM
The other half is waiting for pics of this lady. :)
get to work, paparazzi!
QuoteOne of the biggest search phrases on the internet Thursday is "Maria Belen Shapur Photo"
Wouldn't it be awesome if they just let her be and a picture of her never came out? (yeah, I know that will never happen)
How would respecting her privacy be anywhere near as awesome as offering the lazy masses a momentary titilation? ;)
Obviously this was a Democratic party plot to foist this woman on the popular Republican Governor, and ruin him politically. Why, I bet that Howie Dean even provided the plane ticket to Argentina through an un-named accomplice!
Don't cry for me Argentina......
Quote from: alfred russel on June 25, 2009, 02:45:01 PM
Wouldn't it be awesome if they just let her be and a picture of her never came out? (yeah, I know that will never happen)
It would have been awesome if she let a U.S. State Governor be. The public deserves to see her.
As an aspiring writer, I need to see what inspired Sanford's heartfelt erotic letters.
Given the nature of the emails he wrote to her, he's either a) an incredibly manipulative person, or b) truly in love with her (hell, he could well be both a) and b)).
If the answer is b), the only proper thing for him to do is formally leave his wife, stop pretending to want to reconcile with her, and get with the hot Latina who he is deeply in love with. I would actually deeply respect him for doing that, though he's still a douche who should resign immediately.
I think we all know he is NOT going to do this, though.
Quote
Terra Noticias reported that Belen speaks English, Portuguese and Chinese
No Spanish eh?
Quote from: Caliga on June 25, 2009, 02:56:09 PM
Given the nature of the emails he wrote to her, he's either a) an incredibly manipulative person, or b) truly in love with her (hell, he could well be both a) and b)).
If the answer is b), the only proper thing for him to do is formally leave his wife, stop pretending to want to reconcile with her, and get with the hot Latina who he is deeply in love with. I would actually deeply respect him for doing that, though he's still a douche who should resign immediately.
I think we all know he is NOT going to do this, though.
I think it may have been the case that he went to Argentina to break things off so he could maybe get back together with his wife. But who knows--I'm sure there is a lot of BS in what is reported.
Why would he have needed to do that in person? He could have sent an Executive Memo. :)
Quote from: Caliga on June 25, 2009, 03:06:31 PM
Why would he have needed to do that in person? He could have sent an Executive Memo. :)
Maybe he spent five days "vacationing" with her and then handed her the memo as he got on the plane.
Quote from: alfred russel on June 25, 2009, 03:10:04 PMMaybe he spent five days "vacationing" with her and then handed her the memo as he got on the plane.
:lol:
Anyway, I find myself hoping that the dude pulls an Edward VIII.
Quote from: alfred russel on June 25, 2009, 03:10:04 PM
Quote from: Caliga on June 25, 2009, 03:06:31 PM
Why would he have needed to do that in person? He could have sent an Executive Memo. :)
Maybe he spent five days "vacationing" with her and then handed her the memo as he got on the plane.
Stupid Governor. He should have taken her hiking, along the Appalachian Trail, and told her there... wouldn't have had to disappear for so long. ;)
This is apparently her:
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F2.bp.blogspot.com%2F_j7nO4iNpcsM%2FSkPNWvnmMrI%2FAAAAAAAAF-c%2Fpy9S8_0MWRo%2Fs400%2Fmaria_chapur.jpg&hash=450c2983dca44c4402781305eabc2527240b2435)
More pictures here:
http://newsbizarre.com/2009/06/maria-belen-chapur-photo-mark-stanford.html
Actually looking at that site, it mightn't be her.
Eh she is worth sacrificing a boobie prize like enduring the horror of running for President for.
Quote from: Caliga on June 25, 2009, 03:11:16 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on June 25, 2009, 03:10:04 PMMaybe he spent five days "vacationing" with her and then handed her the memo as he got on the plane.
:lol:
Anyway, I find myself hoping that the dude pulls an Edward VIII.
He can be Governor of Windsor.
Quote from: Neil on June 25, 2009, 03:15:26 PMHe can be Governor of Windsor.
...or Puerto Rico :(
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uphohZs9nuQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uphohZs9nuQ)
If she's fixed those nighmarish eyebrows since 2001, I'd hit it, yeah.
Quote from: Caliga on June 25, 2009, 07:55:02 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uphohZs9nuQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uphohZs9nuQ)
If she's fixed those nighmarish eyebrows since 2001, I'd hit it, yeah.
Beautiful. But if the more recent pictures are to be trusted, she has not aged well. :(
Quote from: Phillip V on June 25, 2009, 09:35:44 PM
Beautiful. But if the more recent pictures are to be trusted, she has not aged well. :(
Argentine women tend to hit a brick wall at a certain point (usually early to mid 40s). Years of smoking & bulimia eventually take their toll.
Quote from: derspiess on June 25, 2009, 09:57:40 PM
Quote from: Phillip V on June 25, 2009, 09:35:44 PM
Beautiful. But if the more recent pictures are to be trusted, she has not aged well. :(
Argentine women tend to hit a brick wall at a certain point (usually early to mid 40s). Years of smoking & bulimia eventually take their toll.
Yet you still married one :o
Quote from: katmai on June 25, 2009, 10:06:44 PM
Yet you still married one :o
Her mom has aged well, so there's hope :) Besides, she's been away from the Buenos Aires lifestyle for 10 years now.
Quote from: derspiess on June 25, 2009, 09:57:40 PM
Quote from: Phillip V on June 25, 2009, 09:35:44 PM
Beautiful. But if the more recent pictures are to be trusted, she has not aged well. :(
Argentine women tend to hit a brick wall at a certain point (usually early to mid 40s). Years of smoking & bulimia eventually take their toll.
Yeah, but this one's named Maria Shapur. That's Latino with some exotic Persian tossed in. Could have a Paula Abdul thing going on.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 25, 2009, 10:38:26 PM
Yeah, but this one's named Maria Shapur. That's Latino with some exotic Persian tossed in. Could have a Paula Abdul thing going on.
It's not genetic, it's lifestyle-related. If Argentine women weren't so fixated on staying thin at all costs, they'd age a lot better.
Mark Sanford is going to be saved a lot of grief due to the Michael Jackson death.
Quote from: Phillip V on June 25, 2009, 02:48:23 PM
As an aspiring writer...
writers don't aspire. they write. get to work.
Rush Limbaugh is the sole media voice willing to say the truth--and identify Obama as the real villian in this story:
QuoteThe best way to put it: He's trying to kill spirit. All this hope and change, he's trying to kill it .... This Sanford buisness, I gotta tell you, one of the first thoughts that crossed my mind ... What he did defies logic. This is more than being 180 degrees out of phase because of lust or love ... This is almost like, "I don't give a damn, the country's going to Hell in a handbasket, I just want out of here." He had just tried to fight the stimulus money coming to South Carolina. He didn't want any part of it; he lost the battle. He said, 'What the hell. I mean, the federal government's taking over -- what the hell, I want to enjoy life."
http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/?last_story=/politics/war_room/2009/06/26/limbaugh_sanford/
Quote from: saskganesh on June 26, 2009, 10:16:10 AM
writers don't aspire. they write. get to work.
I need my Muse. :(
Quote from: alfred russel on June 26, 2009, 11:04:16 AM
Rush Limbaugh is the sole media voice willing to say the truth--and identify Obama as the real villian in this story:
The country is going to hell, he might as well get back on pain killers.
Quote from: Valmy on June 26, 2009, 11:12:25 AM
Quote from: alfred russel on June 26, 2009, 11:04:16 AM
Rush Limbaugh is the sole media voice willing to say the truth--and identify Obama as the real villian in this story:
The country is going to hell, he might as well get back on pain killers.
I'm certain the man is on something.
Quote from: Phillip V on June 26, 2009, 11:09:58 AM
I need my Muse. :(
You can borrow William Faulkner's:
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.madonarosa.sk%2Fobr%2Fv%2Fwhisky_jim_beam.jpg&hash=cc2fde2efb28d8a709d6403ade3852456d94d42e)
:cool: Princesca's aunt's new log cabin is on the hill right above the JB distillery.
Quote from: Phillip V on June 26, 2009, 11:09:58 AM
Quote from: saskganesh on June 26, 2009, 10:16:10 AM
writers don't aspire. they write. get to work.
I need my Muse. :(
she's a bitch. she sometimes does come as a freebie, but otherwise only comes when you are working. like most pagan deities, she likes sacrifice.
Jenny Sanford is one FOXY lady. Rawr! Gov. Sanford is a crying pussy.
http://www.politico.com/singletitlevideo.html?bcpid=1155201977&bctid=27742610001
"the character of my children."
What a bitch.
:lol:
bolded part A: IOW, my own personal salvation is more important than the well-being of the people of this state. Nice :cool:
bolded part B: Is pathological lying a requirement for serving in statewide office in S.C.? Wait, don't answer that :smoke:
QuoteThe Fix: Sanford Admits To More Contact With Mistress
By Chris Cillizza
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, June 30, 2009; 1:15 PM
South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford's admission to the Associated Press today that he had five encounters with his Argentine mistress over the course of a single year including two overnight stays in New York isn't likely to fundamentally alter the resignation sweepstakes currently swirling around him.
Sanford had previously said that he had spent time with Maria Belen Chapur on four occasions over the past year and had not said that any of the encounters were in the United States.
While Sanford's latest admission is sure to keep the story churning in the state media and, to a lesser extent, the national media, it's hard to see how five meetings rather than four with his mistress will further imperil Sanford's chances of hanging on for his last 18 months in office.
For one, Sanford has acknowledged publicly that he weighed resigning in the immediate aftermath of the scandal but decided against it -- meaning that he isn't all that likely to re-weigh the possibility of resigning.
In an email to supporters yesterday, Sanford wrote that "I would ultimately be a better person and of more service in whatever doors God opened next in life if I stuck around to learn lessons rather than running and hiding down at the farm."
For another, there are considerable political repercussions on the 2010 governors race if Sanford steps aside.
Lt. Gov. Andre Bauer (R), who is running for the open seat, would ascend to the governorship -- handing him a major leg-up in next year's primary fight. (Bauer's pledge that he would not run for a full term in 2010 if he became governor before then was greeted with a collective eye roll by consultants aligned with other candidates in the race.)
None of Bauer's 2010 opponents want to see him move up to the governor's office any time soon (or ever) and their desire for the status quo winds up strengthening Sanford's hand.
What could change that calculus? If other major revelations -- more affairs, further misuse of state funds, etc. -- emerge that turn public opinion overwhelmingly against Sanford. Politicians are, at heart, survivors, and if the sentiment for Sanford's resignation grew considerably, they would likely have no choice but to push him out.
Quote from: Caliga on June 30, 2009, 01:41:24 PM
whatever doors God opened next in life if I stuck around to learn lessons rather than running and hiding down at the farm
Yet he broke up with his mistress anyway. The Lord giveth and you sendeth away :(
Quote from: Caliga on June 30, 2009, 01:41:24 PM
:lol:
bolded part A: IOW, my own personal salvation is more important than the well-being of the people of this state. Nice :cool:
How does him having an affair affect the well-being of the people of that state? :rolleyes:
Quote from: derspiess on June 25, 2009, 11:53:25 PM
It's not genetic, it's lifestyle-related. If Argentine women weren't so fixated on staying thin at all costs, they'd age a lot better.
If only all people were like the Argentine people :( :wub:
Quote from: Neil on June 30, 2009, 02:14:33 PM
How does him having an affair affect the well-being of the people of that state? :rolleyes:
I think the implication is that he needs to stay in SC and keep not governing and embarassing everyone because it's important for him personally, for his 'personal and spiritual growth' or some such nonsense.
Quote from: Caliga on June 30, 2009, 03:19:27 PM
Quote from: Neil on June 30, 2009, 02:14:33 PM
How does him having an affair affect the well-being of the people of that state? :rolleyes:
I think the implication is that he needs to stay in SC and keep not governing and embarassing everyone because it's important for him personally, for his 'personal and spiritual growth' or some such nonsense.
It's impossible not to embarass them. It's South Carolina. Just being there is humiliating.
I think the GOP really dodged a bullet on this one. He was a likely contender for the Republican nomination. The guys not prime time material.
Quote from: Razgovory on June 30, 2009, 05:28:46 PM
I think the GOP really dodged a bullet on this one. He was a likely contender for the Republican nomination. The guys not prime time material.
Does the GOP have anybody else left for 2012? An 81 year old McCain, Palin, another shot with Huckabee...
The three most likely IMO: Romney, Pawlenty, or Jindal. Huckabee and Palin will both most likely enter, but will flame out.
Quote from: Caliga on June 30, 2009, 08:57:18 PM
The three most likely IMO: Romney, Pawlenty, or Jindal. Huckabee and Palin will both most likely enter, but will flame out.
Hmm. Quick, people tlel me how to feel about Pawlenty.
Quote from: Faeelin on June 30, 2009, 08:54:45 PM
Does the GOP have anybody else left for 2012? An 81 year old McCain, Palin, another shot with Huckabee...
Romney, Palin, Huckabee, Pawlenty, Crist, Jindal. Not bad. And plenty to arise from the shadows. Giuliani will probably go for NY Governor 2010. Jeb Bush 2016.
Doomsday attitude about Republicans is silly. Reminds me of 2004 after Bush was re-elected, and everybody cried that the Dems were dead.
Quote from: Phillip V on June 30, 2009, 09:04:51 PM
Romney, Palin, Huckabee, Pawlenty, Crist, Jindal. Not bad. And plenty to arise from the shadows. Giuliani will probably go for NY Governor 2010. Jeb Bush 2016.
Doomsday attitude about Republicans is silly. Reminds me of 2004 after Bush was re-elected, and everybody cried that the Dems were dead.
If Sarah Palin is one of your serious contenders, then you are doomed. And I say this as somebody who thinks the GOP has a pretty good shot at 2012.
Quote from: Faeelin on June 30, 2009, 09:10:55 PM
Quote from: Phillip V on June 30, 2009, 09:04:51 PM
Romney, Palin, Huckabee, Pawlenty, Crist, Jindal. Not bad. And plenty to arise from the shadows. Giuliani will probably go for NY Governor 2010. Jeb Bush 2016.
Doomsday attitude about Republicans is silly. Reminds me of 2004 after Bush was re-elected, and everybody cried that the Dems were dead.
If Sarah Palin is one of your serious contenders, then you are doomed. And I say this as somebody who thinks the GOP has a pretty good shot at 2012.
She's a serious contender for the nomination. She's still very popular in some circles.
Quote from: Faeelin on June 30, 2009, 09:10:55 PM
Quote from: Phillip V on June 30, 2009, 09:04:51 PM
Romney, Palin, Huckabee, Pawlenty, Crist, Jindal. Not bad. And plenty to arise from the shadows. Giuliani will probably go for NY Governor 2010. Jeb Bush 2016.
Doomsday attitude about Republicans is silly. Reminds me of 2004 after Bush was re-elected, and everybody cried that the Dems were dead.
If Sarah Palin is one of your serious contenders, then you are doomed. And I say this as somebody who thinks the GOP has a pretty good shot at 2012.
I don't think that Sarah Palin is a serious contender in the mind of anyone other than herself and the most insane Christians around.
Quote from: Neil on June 30, 2009, 09:15:06 PM
I don't think that Sarah Palin is a serious contender in the mind of anyone other than herself and the most insane Christians around.
Exactly. :p
I disagree about Palin, I just don't see it. Everyone gets caught up in hysteria late in the election cycle and is willing to overlook even major shortcomings in their politicians. However, elections are over now, and Republican post-election insanity has to abate eventually. Would Palin stand up to the scrutiny after having already started in the hole? I very much doubt it.
Quote from: Neil on June 30, 2009, 09:15:06 PM
I don't think that Sarah Palin is a serious contender in the mind of anyone other than herself and the most insane Christians around.
So 50% of the GOP party, gotcha.
Quote from: katmai on June 30, 2009, 09:26:11 PM
Quote from: Neil on June 30, 2009, 09:15:06 PM
I don't think that Sarah Palin is a serious contender in the mind of anyone other than herself and the most insane Christians around.
So 50% of the GOP party, gotcha.
Everybody's going to be voting Republican in 2010 and 2012, after seeing what a mess allowing non-whites to govern gets you into.
:lol:
Palin is a sharp and charismatic politician with a lot of potential. She just needed time to study, retool, and age.
Same with Hillary Clinton. She should spend these eight years changing into a kindly old grandma. People love to vote for grandmas. I strongly believe that the arrangement with Obama was that he will support her bid in 2016, especially since Biden (being too old) will not be a contender form the Dem nomination.
Check out the much loved Republican Governor of Connecticut, Jodi Rell:
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fen%2F4%2F45%2FJodi_Rell.jpg&hash=587e6ffcb333768ce7bb793a0f6b419f6bce1b17)
I'm not going to even bother thinking about the next presidential election until after the midterms, what's the point?
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 30, 2009, 10:00:31 PM
I'm not going to even bother thinking about the next presidential election until after the midterms, what's the point?
To give you a life.
Quote from: Phillip V on June 30, 2009, 09:53:25 PM
People love to vote for grandmas.
Not for President. It's a man's job.
Quote from: Neil on June 30, 2009, 10:16:38 PM
Not for President. It's a man's job.
She also doubles as a man.
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fjulesritter.blog.tdg.ch%2Fmedia%2F02%2F01%2F162751874.jpg&hash=471ec3b4b432dae9121e941c0d8ba56eef6f8f46)
Quote from: Neil on June 30, 2009, 10:16:38 PM
Quote from: Phillip V on June 30, 2009, 09:53:25 PM
People love to vote for grandmas.
Not for President. It's a man's job.
Margaret Thatcher would tear you a new vagina in her prime.
Hell - she could probably do it even now.
Quote from: Phillip V on June 30, 2009, 09:53:25 PM
Same with Hillary Clinton. She should spend these eight years changing into a kindly old grandma.
:x
Quote from: Barrister on June 30, 2009, 11:05:43 PM
Quote from: Neil on June 30, 2009, 10:16:38 PM
Quote from: Phillip V on June 30, 2009, 09:53:25 PM
People love to vote for grandmas.
Not for President. It's a man's job.
Margaret Thatcher would tear you a new vagina in her prime.
Hell - she could probably do it even now.
Even with one arm in a sling.
Quote from: DGuller on June 30, 2009, 09:19:29 PM
I disagree about Palin, I just don't see it. Everyone gets caught up in hysteria late in the election cycle and is willing to overlook even major shortcomings in their politicians. However, elections are over now, and Republican post-election insanity has to abate eventually. Would Palin stand up to the scrutiny after having already started in the hole? I very much doubt it.
Republican insanity has gone strong for over a decade. Why should it abate now? I think Rommny is their great white hope. He just needs the Republican electorate to forget how two-faced he was.
Quote from: Faeelin on June 30, 2009, 09:03:23 PM
Hmm. Quick, people tlel me how to feel about Pawlenty.
Feel good, real good!
Bland, managerial, technocratic. He has made noise about the need for the GOP to be more inclusive.
If we assume that the Republican candidate pool is Romney, Huck, Palin, Jindal, Crist, and Pawlenty: Romney and Pawlenty are the only two I can actually envision as President, though predictably they're the two who would likely have the most trouble in the GOP primaries.
Of course, this is all probably a total waste of time, since if in 2005 someone said "I see Barack Obama as the next President", everyone would have laughed.
Yes, Money, I do remember you started a speculative thread on Obama here several years before the 2008 election. ^_^
Quote from: Caliga on July 01, 2009, 06:47:48 AM
Of course, this is all probably a total waste of time, since if in 2005 someone said "I see Barack Obama as the next President", everyone would have laughed.
Not true people were talking about it after his speech at the 2004 Democratic Convention.
Quote from: Phillip V on June 30, 2009, 09:53:25 PM
Palin is a sharp and charismatic politician with a lot of potential.
I must have missed her charisma with her annoying accent and mannerisms and idiotic speeches.
Quote from: Barrister on June 30, 2009, 11:05:43 PM
Quote from: Neil on June 30, 2009, 10:16:38 PM
Quote from: Phillip V on June 30, 2009, 09:53:25 PM
People love to vote for grandmas.
Not for President. It's a man's job.
Margaret Thatcher would tear you a new vagina in her prime.
Hell - she could probably do it even now.
1. She wasn't President. She was Prime Minister.
2. She wasn't running as a grandma. She was running as the reincarnation of the Duke of Wellington.
3. Come to think of it, Thatcher might be the only example of a successful female leader in the entire civilized world.
Quote from: Valmy on July 01, 2009, 01:41:09 PM
I must have missed her charisma with her annoying accent and mannerisms and idiotic speeches.
We don't need your elitist un-American snobishness here.
Quote from: Phillip V on July 01, 2009, 01:57:39 PM
Quote from: Valmy on July 01, 2009, 01:41:09 PM
I must have missed her charisma with her annoying accent and mannerisms and idiotic speeches.
We don't need your elitist un-American snobishness here.
You are the first person who's ever called her "sharp".
Quote from: Razgovory on July 01, 2009, 02:35:06 PM
You are the first person who's ever called her "sharp".
I cannot but respect her political accomplishments.
Quote from: Phillip V on June 30, 2009, 09:53:25 PM
Palin is a sharp and charismatic politician with a lot of potential.
Palin is as sharp as a bowling ball and has had her fifteen minutes of fame.
I am so fucking tired of all this Mark Sanford shit.
Quote from: Scipio on July 01, 2009, 04:30:05 PM
I am so fucking tired of all this Mark Sanford shit.
Go to sleep.
Quote from: Scipio on July 01, 2009, 04:30:05 PM
I am so fucking tired of all this Mark Sanford shit.
You just seem tired.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 01, 2009, 04:44:33 PM
Quote from: Scipio on July 01, 2009, 04:30:05 PM
I am so fucking tired of all this Mark Sanford shit.
You just seem tired.
I am tired of shit. That is all that I am tired of. Shit.
Quote from: Scipio on July 01, 2009, 06:15:57 PM
I am tired of shit. That is all that I am tired of. Shit.
Check yourself into a clinic for exhaustion. :hug:
Quote from: Scipio on July 01, 2009, 06:15:57 PM
I am tired of shit. That is all that I am tired of. Shit.
Bad case of diarrhea?
Quote from: Phillip V on July 01, 2009, 06:59:44 PM
Quote from: Scipio on July 01, 2009, 06:15:57 PM
I am tired of shit. That is all that I am tired of. Shit.
Bad case of diarrhea?
Is there ever a good case of diarrhea? :unsure:
Quote from: Caliga on July 01, 2009, 06:47:48 AMYes, Money, I do remember you started a speculative thread on Obama here several years before the 2008 election. ^_^
I know you do, big guy. :P
Quote from: Scipio on July 01, 2009, 04:30:05 PM
I am so fucking tired of all this Mark Sanford shit.
Not me, man. This is THE pussy meltdown of all pussy meltdowns.
If I recall right, CdMs Obama prediction was..
"That nigga might pour my ice tea at TGIF, but he'll never sit in my White House"
Quote from: Jaron on July 02, 2009, 04:15:45 AM
If I recall right, CdMs Obama prediction was..
"That nigga might pour my ice tea at TGIF, but he'll never sit in my White House"
I said he was very well-spoken.
Sanford's wife filed for divorce today. :contract:
WAI?
CHEETANG
Fortunately the legislature decided that a scumbag who was a Republican was preferable to a Democrat taking the Governorship and decided to keep him on.
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on December 11, 2009, 02:54:17 PM
Fortunately the legislature decided that a scumbag who was a Republican was preferable to a Democrat taking the Governorship and decided to keep him on.
Damn right.
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on December 11, 2009, 02:54:17 PM
Fortunately the legislature decided that a scumbag who was a Republican was preferable to a Democrat taking the Governorship and decided to keep him on.
Well, in their defense, the Lt. Governor
is batshit crazy down there.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 12, 2009, 09:39:09 PM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on December 11, 2009, 02:54:17 PM
Fortunately the legislature decided that a scumbag who was a Republican was preferable to a Democrat taking the Governorship and decided to keep him on.
Well, in their defense, the Lt. Governor is batshit crazy down there.
Well who the fuck isn't?
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on December 12, 2009, 10:14:41 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 12, 2009, 09:39:09 PM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on December 11, 2009, 02:54:17 PM
Fortunately the legislature decided that a scumbag who was a Republican was preferable to a Democrat taking the Governorship and decided to keep him on.
Well, in their defense, the Lt. Governor is batshit crazy down there.
Well who the fuck isn't?
Well looking at our posters who live down there...err nevermind.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 12, 2009, 09:39:09 PM
Well, in their defense, the Lt. Governor is batshit crazy down there.
He's not so much batshit crazy as he is a flaming closeted homo. :)