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Title: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: Martinus on December 02, 2014, 09:32:49 AM
QuoteInto fisting or watersports porn? Hard luck, UK producers have just been banned from making it

The types of porn producers in the UK are allowed to make changed today, with a ban on specific acts such as fisting, face-sitting and water-sports having taken effect.

Brought in by the Audiovisual Media Services regulation 2014, the ban states that any online paid-for porn such as Video on Demand (VoD) must adhere to the same rules set out for those producing DVDs.

Those rules are set out by the British Board of Film Censors (BBFC).

The change has been criticised for seemingly arbitrarily banning the depiction of certain types of sex on screen. In particular, the new rules have been criticised for blocking acts which are used in porn which depicts women in a position of power.

The full list of now banned acts is available below:

Spanking

Caning

Aggressive whipping

Penetration by any object "associated with violence"

Physical or verbal abuse (regardless of if consensual)

Urolagnia (known as "water sports")

Female ejaculation

Strangulation

Facesitting

Fisting


Porn depicting all of those is still legal to watch in the UK if it has been made abroad.

Some of the stuff being banned is bizarre. "Verbal abuse"? WTF?
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: Ed Anger on December 02, 2014, 09:34:01 AM
Lie back and think of England.
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: Ideologue on December 02, 2014, 09:43:11 AM
Well, it only took him 64 years longer than he thought, but Hitler finally won the war.
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: The Larch on December 02, 2014, 09:43:31 AM
Spanking and caning banned? There's a joke about English public schools in there dying to get out.
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: HVC on December 02, 2014, 09:46:00 AM
I see the reasoning of the others. It's stupid, but I see it. But why is female ejaculation  banned?  Also, who is watching English porn?
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: Richard Hakluyt on December 02, 2014, 09:46:22 AM
Reason #2145 why British politicians are held in utter contempt.
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: Ed Anger on December 02, 2014, 09:48:08 AM
Quote from: HVC on December 02, 2014, 09:46:00 AM
I see the reasoning of the others. It's stupid, but I see it. But why is female ejaculation  banned?  Also, who is watching English porn?

WOTS ALL THIS THEN?
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: Martinus on December 02, 2014, 09:48:51 AM
Quote from: HVC on December 02, 2014, 09:46:00 AM
I see the reasoning of the others. It's stupid, but I see it. But why is female ejaculation  banned?  Also, who is watching English porn?

English gay porn at least is a recognised brand. It's less brutal than German (not to mention, Russian) porn but more kinky than vanilla American porn (Americans make even BDSM look vanilla).
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: Ed Anger on December 02, 2014, 09:48:56 AM
Quote from: Ideologue on December 02, 2014, 09:43:11 AM
Well, it only took him 64 years longer than he thought, but Hitler finally won the war.

This is why you don't rage quit.
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: HVC on December 02, 2014, 09:51:23 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on December 02, 2014, 09:48:08 AM
Quote from: HVC on December 02, 2014, 09:46:00 AM
I see the reasoning of the others. It's stupid, but I see it. But why is female ejaculation  banned?  Also, who is watching English porn?

WOTS ALL THIS THEN?
who sits and the computer and thinks "you know what my porns been missing? Tea!" :P
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: Syt on December 02, 2014, 09:51:38 AM
Quote from: HVC on December 02, 2014, 09:46:00 AM
I see the reasoning of the others. It's stupid, but I see it. But why is female ejaculation  banned?

Too similar to pissing, maybe (think Cytherea in her prime, or the "Lesbian Bukkake" series)?

Also, why ban fisting?  :huh:
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: Richard Hakluyt on December 02, 2014, 09:55:43 AM
Why is pissing so dreadful? I can understand people not being interested but getting enraged about it seems very strange  :hmm:

The legal climate here is getting increasingly bad for BDSM enthusiasts, this is not the first restrictive legislation they have faced.
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: Ed Anger on December 02, 2014, 09:57:04 AM
Quote from: HVC on December 02, 2014, 09:51:23 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on December 02, 2014, 09:48:08 AM
Quote from: HVC on December 02, 2014, 09:46:00 AM
I see the reasoning of the others. It's stupid, but I see it. But why is female ejaculation  banned?  Also, who is watching English porn?

WOTS ALL THIS THEN?
who sits and the computer and thinks "you know what my porns been missing? Tea!" :P

Needs more biscuits.

JAFFA CAKE INSERTIONS #7
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: Sheilbh on December 02, 2014, 09:57:39 AM
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on December 02, 2014, 09:55:43 AM
Why is pissing so dreadful? I can understand people not being interested but getting enraged about it seems very strange  :hmm:

The legal climate here is getting increasingly bad for BDSM enthusiasts, this is not the first restrictive legislation they have faced.
To be fair it's never been great:
http://www.bailii.org/uk/cases/UKHL/1992/7.html
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: Richard Hakluyt on December 02, 2014, 09:58:11 AM
An entertaining article I found about the new legislation :

https://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/the-end-of-uk-bdsm-282

Maybe NSFW in uptight anglo places.
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: alfred russel on December 02, 2014, 09:59:38 AM
Okay, no reason to panic. I can survive this.

But if this legislation spreads to the Czech Republic and Hungary, or, I almost can't bring myself to consider the possibility, East Asia.... :cry:
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: Richard Hakluyt on December 02, 2014, 10:00:20 AM
Quote from: Sheilbh on December 02, 2014, 09:57:39 AM
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on December 02, 2014, 09:55:43 AM
Why is pissing so dreadful? I can understand people not being interested but getting enraged about it seems very strange  :hmm:

The legal climate here is getting increasingly bad for BDSM enthusiasts, this is not the first restrictive legislation they have faced.
To be fair it's never been great:
http://www.bailii.org/uk/cases/UKHL/1992/7.html

I know, but I always hope for progress and increased tolerance............been a disappointing century so far.
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: Syt on December 02, 2014, 10:01:11 AM
I presume that scat and vomit porn has already been banned in the UK before this new law? What about pregnant fetish?
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: Valmy on December 02, 2014, 10:23:07 AM
Quote from: Martinus on December 02, 2014, 09:32:49 AM
Quote
Penetration by any object “associated with violence”

But it is called a 'peacemaker'! :(

Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: Valmy on December 02, 2014, 10:23:48 AM
Quote from: Syt on December 02, 2014, 10:01:11 AM
I presume that scat and vomit porn has already been banned in the UK before this new law? What about pregnant fetish?

With them banning things like face sitting, they should be glad you can still masturbate in porn.
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: Valmy on December 02, 2014, 10:25:23 AM
Quote from: HVC on December 02, 2014, 09:46:00 AM
Also, who is watching English porn?

I like slutty English women with trashy accents :blush:

But remember this also covers Scottish, Welsh, and Northern Irish porn...presuming that's a thing.
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: Valmy on December 02, 2014, 10:26:04 AM
Quote from: Martinus on December 02, 2014, 09:48:51 AM
(Americans make even BDSM look vanilla).

Even when it is all black guys?
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: mongers on December 02, 2014, 10:28:16 AM
Seems like there are more similarities between Putin's Russia and Cameron's England* than I thought.






* No longer convinced he wants to 'save the Union'.
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: DontSayBanana on December 02, 2014, 10:29:23 AM
The one that sticks out to me as ridiculous is female ejaculation.  Welp, a bunch of British porn actresses just found themselves out of work.  Squirters need not apply.
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: Malthus on December 02, 2014, 10:38:59 AM
Quote from: Valmy on December 02, 2014, 10:25:23 AM
Quote from: HVC on December 02, 2014, 09:46:00 AM
Also, who is watching English porn?

I like slutty English women with trashy accents :blush:

But remember this also covers Scottish, Welsh, and Northern Irish porn...presuming that's a thing.

Irish porn: a pic of a bottle of booze.

Scottish porn: a pic of the money used to buy that bottle.

Welsh porn: a tape of a guy stealing both of the above.

:P
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: Eddie Teach on December 02, 2014, 10:44:48 AM
Shouldn't the Welsh one involve sheep?
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: Ideologue on December 02, 2014, 10:46:11 AM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on December 02, 2014, 10:29:23 AM
The one that sticks out to me as ridiculous is female ejaculation.  Welp, a bunch of British porn actresses just found themselves out of work.  Squirters need not apply.

I get the feeling that they've made a legislative finding that it doesn't exist.
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: Monoriu on December 02, 2014, 10:59:34 AM
Is female ejaculation involuntary though? 
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: Ideologue on December 02, 2014, 11:03:31 AM
Is male? I guess the answer is it depends.
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: CountDeMoney on December 02, 2014, 11:06:11 AM
Quote from: The Larch on December 02, 2014, 09:43:31 AM
Spanking and caning banned? There's a joke about English public schools in there dying to get out.

The Brits eliminating caning is like the Japanese eliminating rope, or the Germans eliminating latex.  It's their thing.
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: Monoriu on December 02, 2014, 11:08:58 AM
How are they going to distinguish between aggressive and non-aggressive whipping?

What are objects associated with violence?

Why is "consensual verbal abuse" banned?  Is it "abuse" if it is "consensual"?

What is so bad about facesitting if it is consensual?  Seems to me it is just another position used in sex.

What's wrong with female ejaculation anyway?
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: Martinus on December 02, 2014, 11:11:11 AM
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on December 02, 2014, 09:55:43 AM
Why is pissing so dreadful? I can understand people not being interested but getting enraged about it seems very strange  :hmm:

The legal climate here is getting increasingly bad for BDSM enthusiasts, this is not the first restrictive legislation they have faced.

Yeah. And what about "verbal abuse"? This one is ridiculous. It's even permitted in prime time tv after all.
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: celedhring on December 02, 2014, 11:25:05 AM
Imagination always thrives on prohibitions; I'm sure this will unleash a new golden age of British porn as filmmakers come up with new, yet not banned, sexual practices to shoot.
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: sbr on December 02, 2014, 11:32:58 AM
Quote from: Ideologue on December 02, 2014, 10:46:11 AM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on December 02, 2014, 10:29:23 AM
The one that sticks out to me as ridiculous is female ejaculation.  Welp, a bunch of British porn actresses just found themselves out of work.  Squirters need not apply.

I get the feeling that they've made a legislative finding that it doesn't exist.

From the Comments in the article Richard posted.  No idea on the validity of any of it.

QuoteHere's a copy of a letter from the BBFC addressing the subject directly:

The BBFC responded to research on female ejaculation submitted to the BBFC by Feminists Against Censorship:

"If I may clarify our position, the Board does not in fact take any view on whether or not female ejaculation exists. As you admit in your letter this is a controversial and much-debated area with a range of views being taken amongst medical professionals. At the most basic level, however, the Board is content that the pornographic tapes so far presented to us as examples of 'female ejaculation' are in fact nothing other than straightforward scenes of urination masquerading as 'female ejaculation'. This has been confirmed by a female sexual health expert who the Board has consulted on a range of issues relating to videos intended for the 'R18' category.

Quite the opposite of attempting to confront the issue of female ejaculation in a reassuring, sympathetic or informative light, the tapes in question appear to be nothing more than a cynical attempt on the part of porn distributors to get around the constraints imposed on urolagnia in sex tapes by the current interpretation of the Obscene Publications Act. It is worth noting that the kind of material that the Board has been cutting is regularly sold as 'urolagnia' in other European countries (France, Germany, Netherlands, etc) where there is no equivalent legal restriction on the use of urine in sex videos. Indeed, although videos featuring urolagnia are very much in evidence on the continent, videos purporting to show 'female ejaculation' seem to be invisible. Perhaps female ejaculation is less exciting (or profitable) to pornographers and their viewers than urination? Generally speaking sex videos of the type encountered at 'R18' neither seek to inform nor educate about female (or male) sexuality but merely offer graphic (and grossly distorted) views of sex for the arousal of viewers. Indeed, as you acknowledge in your letter "much of the material [the Board] passes with an 'R18' certificate does not necessarily represent the sexual experiences of all women".

To conclude, the Board remains open minded about the issue of female ejaculation but we have yet to be presented with any pornographic video that has convinced us - or our medical advisor - that it consists of anything other than an excuse to display scenes of urolagnia. Such scenes are regularly found obscene by juries in the UK and therefore cannot be classified."
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: alfred russel on December 02, 2014, 11:33:41 AM
Quote from: celedhring on December 02, 2014, 11:25:05 AM
Imagination always thrives on prohibitions; I'm sure this will unleash a new golden age of British porn as filmmakers come up with new, yet not banned, sexual practices to shoot.

But it will not be the golden shower age.  :(
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: The Larch on December 02, 2014, 11:49:45 AM
A good friend of mine recently started dating a girl who turned out to be a big time squirter. He is utterly fascinated by it now.
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: Ideologue on December 02, 2014, 11:53:49 AM
I'd have been more into it if the squirter I dated was otherwise hot.

Anyway, thanks sbr. I was pretty close.

Kill Cromwell's ghost. (Actually, I'm uncertain to what extent showers porn and fisting are legal in tje US today. :hmm: )
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: CountDeMoney on December 02, 2014, 11:54:33 AM
Quote from: The Larch on December 02, 2014, 11:49:45 AM
A good friend of mine recently started dating a girl who turned out to be a big time squirter. He is utterly fascinated by it now.

Because sex just isn't messy enough.  Barf.
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: Martinus on December 02, 2014, 12:00:49 PM
This gives me an idea about moving to Slupsk and turning it into the capital-in-exile of British porn... :hmm:
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: Valmy on December 02, 2014, 12:01:43 PM
You should go to a small town nobody in Britain has heard of.  Maybe Danzig.
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: Martinus on December 02, 2014, 12:05:24 PM
But seriously, what's the first stop in France on Eurostar? Calais? If the French have any clout, they would announce tax breaks there for the British porn industry.  :D
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: The Brain on December 02, 2014, 12:45:41 PM
Is this for real? Somehow I doubt this is the way to regain Empire. FIAL

I've said before that I think the end of legal BDSM in private is coming. One step closer.

I am reminded of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcTP7YWPayU
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: CountDeMoney on December 02, 2014, 12:48:09 PM
They'll never totally outlaw BDSM services.  Too many trial lawyers are clients.
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: Syt on December 02, 2014, 12:49:41 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 02, 2014, 12:48:09 PM
They'll never totally outlaw BDSM services.  Too many trial lawyers tory politicians are clients.

FYP. :P
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: garbon on December 02, 2014, 01:08:20 PM
Quote from: Martinus on December 02, 2014, 09:48:51 AM
Quote from: HVC on December 02, 2014, 09:46:00 AM
I see the reasoning of the others. It's stupid, but I see it. But why is female ejaculation  banned?  Also, who is watching English porn?

English gay porn at least is a recognised brand. It's less brutal than German (not to mention, Russian) porn but more kinky than vanilla American porn (Americans make even BDSM look vanilla).

Poor Triga. They are doomed.
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: Duque de Bragança on December 02, 2014, 01:16:13 PM
Quote from: Martinus on December 02, 2014, 12:05:24 PM
But seriously, what's the first stop in France on Eurostar? Calais? If the French have any clout, they would announce tax breaks there for the British porn industry.  :D

Most Eurostar trains go straight to Paris. Only 2 or 3 stop in Calais-Fréthun, out of 12-14 per day.
A Laissez-faire ambient would be better for porn I'd say. :)
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: Crazy_Ivan80 on December 02, 2014, 01:21:03 PM
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on December 02, 2014, 09:55:43 AM
Why is pissing so dreadful? I can understand people not being interested but getting enraged about it seems very strange  :hmm:


someone probably was suffering from kidneystones at the time...
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: Barrister on December 02, 2014, 01:32:32 PM
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on December 02, 2014, 09:55:43 AM
Why is pissing so dreadful? I can understand people not being interested but getting enraged about it seems very strange  :hmm:

The legal climate here is getting increasingly bad for BDSM enthusiasts, this is not the first restrictive legislation they have faced.

Basically all of the proposed outlawed porn has to deal with themes of humiliation, power and control.  Pissing on someone easily fits those criteria.
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: DontSayBanana on December 02, 2014, 01:37:05 PM
Quote from: Barrister on December 02, 2014, 01:32:32 PM
Basically all of the proposed outlawed porn has to deal with themes of humiliation, power and control.  Pissing on someone easily fits those criteria.

And female ejaculation?  Banning that can only be justified by a fucked-up view of sex that is usually, ironically, caused by expectations being set more by viewed porn than by real-life sexual situations.
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: CountDeMoney on December 02, 2014, 01:39:33 PM
Quote from: Barrister on December 02, 2014, 01:32:32 PM
Basically all of the proposed outlawed porn has to deal with themes of humiliation, power and control.  Pissing on someone easily fits those criteria.

Sure, allow employers to do it in the workplace, but not not on your own terms on your own time.  Once again, corporations win.
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: Malthus on December 02, 2014, 01:40:02 PM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on December 02, 2014, 01:37:05 PM
Quote from: Barrister on December 02, 2014, 01:32:32 PM
Basically all of the proposed outlawed porn has to deal with themes of humiliation, power and control.  Pissing on someone easily fits those criteria.

And female ejaculation?  Banning that can only be justified by a fucked-up view of sex that is usually, ironically, caused by expectations being set more by viewed porn than by real-life sexual situations.

The censors claim that is basically piss-porn. Which is banned.

Not that I agree with their premises, mind.
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: The Larch on December 02, 2014, 01:48:32 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 02, 2014, 11:54:33 AM
Quote from: The Larch on December 02, 2014, 11:49:45 AM
A good friend of mine recently started dating a girl who turned out to be a big time squirter. He is utterly fascinated by it now.

Because sex just isn't messy enough.  Barf.

It is indeed messy apparently, according to my buddy the first time they had sex they had to throw the entire bed covers and linens to the laundry and sleep directly over the matress.  :lol:
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: DontSayBanana on December 02, 2014, 02:00:45 PM
Quote from: The Larch on December 02, 2014, 01:48:32 PM
It is indeed messy apparently, according to my buddy the first time they had sex they had to throw the entire bed covers and linens to the laundry and sleep directly over the matress.  :lol:

Truth.  Speaking from experience, when having a roll in the hay with a squirter, I can't strongly enough impress how good an idea it is to have a beach towel handy.
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: Richard Hakluyt on December 02, 2014, 02:11:10 PM
Quote from: Barrister on December 02, 2014, 01:32:32 PM
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on December 02, 2014, 09:55:43 AM
Why is pissing so dreadful? I can understand people not being interested but getting enraged about it seems very strange  :hmm:

The legal climate here is getting increasingly bad for BDSM enthusiasts, this is not the first restrictive legislation they have faced.

Basically all of the proposed outlawed porn has to deal with themes of humiliation, power and control.  Pissing on someone easily fits those criteria.

I see.

Looks like the next State opening of Parliament might have trouble getting certification then  :D
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: CountDeMoney on December 02, 2014, 02:15:14 PM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on December 02, 2014, 02:00:45 PM
Quote from: The Larch on December 02, 2014, 01:48:32 PM
It is indeed messy apparently, according to my buddy the first time they had sex they had to throw the entire bed covers and linens to the laundry and sleep directly over the matress.  :lol:

Truth.  Speaking from experience, when having a roll in the hay with a squirter, I can't strongly enough impress how good an idea it is to have a beach towel handy.

Barf.

Now, I once banged my girlfriend so hard (so well?) that she pissed herself, but I attributed that to the firepower of my fully ARMED and OPERATIONAL cock.
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: DontSayBanana on December 02, 2014, 02:17:29 PM
Quote from: Barrister on December 02, 2014, 01:32:32 PM
Basically all of the proposed outlawed porn has to deal with themes of humiliation, power and control.  Pissing on someone easily fits those criteria.

Oh, and the uniquely British "Fake Taxi" porn that involves either the driver or the passenger blackmailing the other into sex still passes muster.  Oh, UK.  Draft laws for safety against paper tigers... while in the cage with the real lions.
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: Norgy on December 02, 2014, 02:20:35 PM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on December 02, 2014, 02:17:29 PM
Quote from: Barrister on December 02, 2014, 01:32:32 PM
Basically all of the proposed outlawed porn has to deal with themes of humiliation, power and control.  Pissing on someone easily fits those criteria.

Oh, and the uniquely British "Fake Taxi" porn that involves either the driver or the passenger blackmailing the other into sex still passes muster.  Oh, UK.  Draft laws for safety against paper tigers... while in the cage with the real lions.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who's watched "Fake Taxi".  :blush:
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: Ideologue on December 02, 2014, 02:21:38 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 02, 2014, 02:15:14 PM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on December 02, 2014, 02:00:45 PM
Quote from: The Larch on December 02, 2014, 01:48:32 PM
It is indeed messy apparently, according to my buddy the first time they had sex they had to throw the entire bed covers and linens to the laundry and sleep directly over the matress.  :lol:

Truth.  Speaking from experience, when having a roll in the hay with a squirter, I can't strongly enough impress how good an idea it is to have a beach towel handy.

Barf.

Now, I once banged my girlfriend so hard (so well?) that she pissed herself, but I attributed that to the firepower of my fully ARMED and OPERATIONAL cock.

And now we know thw difference between a surgeon and a butcher.
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: CountDeMoney on December 02, 2014, 02:23:15 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on December 02, 2014, 02:21:38 PM
And now we know thw difference between a surgeon and a butcher.

As as fan of airpower, I'm sure you can appreciate the delivery of heavy unguided ordnance.
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: Viking on December 02, 2014, 02:32:25 PM
Quote from: sbr on December 02, 2014, 11:32:58 AM
Quote from: Ideologue on December 02, 2014, 10:46:11 AM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on December 02, 2014, 10:29:23 AM
The one that sticks out to me as ridiculous is female ejaculation.  Welp, a bunch of British porn actresses just found themselves out of work.  Squirters need not apply.

I get the feeling that they've made a legislative finding that it doesn't exist.

From the Comments in the article Richard posted.  No idea on the validity of any of it.

Quotesnip"

So basically Female Ejaculation here refers to the obvious attempt to claim that "no, she's not pissing guv, she's cumming". Given the premise that water sports are bad (not my thing though), that sort of makes sense.
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: Ideologue on December 02, 2014, 02:37:16 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 02, 2014, 02:23:15 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on December 02, 2014, 02:21:38 PM
And now we know thw difference between a surgeon and a butcher.

As as fan of airpower, I'm sure you can appreciate the delivery of heavy unguided ordnance.

Airpower isn't a metaphor for sex, it's a metaphor for God.
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: CountDeMoney on December 02, 2014, 02:40:12 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on December 02, 2014, 02:37:16 PM
Airpower isn't a metaphor for sex, it's a metaphor for God.

If that were the case, bombs would be in the shape of vaginas. :virginiaslims:

Ed's compound would be carpet-bombed by open-face roast beef sammiches.
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: Martinus on December 02, 2014, 02:45:44 PM
Quote from: Barrister on December 02, 2014, 01:32:32 PM
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on December 02, 2014, 09:55:43 AM
Why is pissing so dreadful? I can understand people not being interested but getting enraged about it seems very strange  :hmm:

The legal climate here is getting increasingly bad for BDSM enthusiasts, this is not the first restrictive legislation they have faced.

Basically all of the proposed outlawed porn has to deal with themes of humiliation, power and control.  Pissing on someone easily fits those criteria.

What's wrong with that? And if they are at it, why not ban foot fetish, then?
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: Martinus on December 02, 2014, 02:50:26 PM
Incidentally, I wonder what the situation in straight porn/sex industry is - because in gay porn (and judging from ads and the like), 90% of guys who are into BDSM and power play are submissive. In fact, when it comes to amateur BDSM porn sites, where the site owner also stars in porn, in the predominant majority of cases, he plays the submissive role and the actors he hires are dominant.

That is why "protecting people from abuse" has always seemed like such bullshit to me when it comes to banning BDSM porn.
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: Martinus on December 02, 2014, 02:54:36 PM
It's similar to anal, I guess - of those guys who are into it, most are either bottoms or "versatile" (meaning he is a bottom but is willing to switch if the other guy fucks him back). The guys who are only tops are exceedingly rare.
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: Ideologue on December 02, 2014, 02:57:46 PM
I get the impreasion that femdom stuff is very popular. It's a pain becayse dirty talk videos often don't come.labeled as to whether they're neutral, female-submissive, or some bitch telling you your cock is tiny. :lol:

Seems to be a big thing.in Britain, incidentally.
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: Ideologue on December 02, 2014, 02:59:33 PM
Most actual women are moderately to seriously submissive, in.my experience, however.
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: Martinus on December 02, 2014, 03:01:40 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on December 02, 2014, 02:57:46 PM
I get the impreasion that femdom stuff is very popular. It's a pain becayse dirty talk videos often don't come.labeled as to whether they're neutral, female-submissive, or some bitch telling you your cock is tiny. :lol:

Seems to be a big thing.in Britain, incidentally.

That's why being gay is better - if you are into submission/domination, doesn't matter who is who in porn, you always get what you want. :P
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: garbon on December 02, 2014, 03:04:02 PM
Quote from: Martinus on December 02, 2014, 02:54:36 PM
The guys who are only tops are exceedingly rare.

:hmm:

At least in the US, I have found that to vary by location. In some cities, I've seen people decrying a general lack of bottoms and in others a lack of tops.
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: derspiess on December 02, 2014, 03:04:35 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 02, 2014, 02:40:12 PM
If that were the case, bombs would be in the shape of vaginas. :virginiaslims:

My buddy's ex-sister in law used to call Virginia Slims "Vagina Slimes". 
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: Martinus on December 02, 2014, 03:05:17 PM
Quote from: garbon on December 02, 2014, 03:04:02 PM
Quote from: Martinus on December 02, 2014, 02:54:36 PM
The guys who are only tops are exceedingly rare.

:hmm:

At least in the US, I have found that to vary by location. In some cities, I've seen people decrying a general lack of bottoms and in others a lack of tops.

Would more conservative/backward places have a lack of bottoms or a lack of tops? Or is there no connection?
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: Ideologue on December 02, 2014, 03:09:07 PM
The thing about femdom stuff is how meanspirited it seems in comparison. Calling someone a slut, whore, cumdumpster etc. or making them beg is about surrender to someone elses control. Femdom stuff trucks in insults that seem to me to only incidentally do that. There is not usually a suggestion that the fem sub is inadequate, I guess is the difference. Does gay DS have that kind.of edge to it, or is that unique to femdom DS?
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: Martinus on December 02, 2014, 03:27:14 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on December 02, 2014, 03:09:07 PM
The thing about femdom stuff is how meanspirited it seems in comparison. Calling someone a slut, whore, cumdumpster etc. or making them beg is about surrender to someone elses control. Femdom stuff trucks in insults that seem to me to only incidentally do that. There is not usually a suggestion that the fem sub is inadequate, I guess is the difference. Does gay DS have that kind.of edge to it, or is that unique to femdom DS?

I would say it is similar, although in gay DS the dominant is usually pretending to be straight and the submissive is a "faggot". It's actually quite funny if you think about the psychology of it all.
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: Ideologue on December 02, 2014, 03:29:37 PM
Interesting. What's the pay like?
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: Martinus on December 02, 2014, 03:31:24 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on December 02, 2014, 03:29:37 PM
Interesting. What's the pay like?

Dunno but "money domination" is a thing. You should start a website.
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: CountDeMoney on December 02, 2014, 04:27:24 PM
Quote from: Martinus on December 02, 2014, 03:31:24 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on December 02, 2014, 03:29:37 PM
Interesting. What's the pay like?

Dunno but "money domination" is a thing. You should start a website.

www.clips4sale.com

The Most Popular Clips list always amazes me. 
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: Martinus on December 02, 2014, 04:36:37 PM
Clips4sale.com is one thing but it's just one aspect of monetising this. :P
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: Norgy on December 02, 2014, 04:42:47 PM
www.ide4gaypornfame.com
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: Sheilbh on December 02, 2014, 04:46:34 PM
An obscenity lawyer's take:
http://obscenitylawyer.blogspot.co.uk/2014/11/the-following-content-is-not-acceptable.html
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: The Brain on December 02, 2014, 04:49:05 PM
What about the morbidly obscene? Are they banned from starring in porn?
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: Ideologue on December 02, 2014, 05:45:43 PM
They are not.
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: DontSayBanana on December 02, 2014, 10:52:09 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on December 02, 2014, 04:46:34 PM
An obscenity lawyer's take:
http://obscenitylawyer.blogspot.co.uk/2014/11/the-following-content-is-not-acceptable.html

So much for "themes of control or humiliation."  Seems drinking female ejaculate is verbot, but drinking male ejaculate is a-okay without exceptions.  So if it really is control themes, that's one glaring double standard.
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: Ideologue on December 02, 2014, 11:24:18 PM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on December 02, 2014, 10:52:09 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on December 02, 2014, 04:46:34 PM
An obscenity lawyer's take:
http://obscenitylawyer.blogspot.co.uk/2014/11/the-following-content-is-not-acceptable.html

So much for "themes of control or humiliation."  Seems drinking female ejaculate is verbot, but drinking male ejaculate is a-okay without exceptions.  So if it really is control themes, that's one glaring double standard.

You know what's controlling and humiliating?  Splashing your DNA all over some woman's eggs and forcing her to either get an abortion or have your baby, AND to get fat and immobile.

Facials are feminism in action.

Still, pregnancy play is fun. :blush:
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: sbr on December 03, 2014, 01:00:17 AM
Quote from: Ideologue on December 02, 2014, 11:24:18 PM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on December 02, 2014, 10:52:09 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on December 02, 2014, 04:46:34 PM
An obscenity lawyer's take:
http://obscenitylawyer.blogspot.co.uk/2014/11/the-following-content-is-not-acceptable.html

So much for "themes of control or humiliation."  Seems drinking female ejaculate is verbot, but drinking male ejaculate is a-okay without exceptions.  So if it really is control themes, that's one glaring double standard.

You know what's controlling and humiliating?  Splashing your DNA all over some woman's eggs and forcing her to either get an abortion or have your baby, AND to get fat and immobile.

Facials are feminism in action.

Still, pregnancy play is fun. :blush:

:lol:   This is in my Top 10 Favorite Posts Evah
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: Martinus on December 03, 2014, 02:00:38 AM
Quote from: Ideologue on December 02, 2014, 11:24:18 PM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on December 02, 2014, 10:52:09 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on December 02, 2014, 04:46:34 PM
An obscenity lawyer's take:
http://obscenitylawyer.blogspot.co.uk/2014/11/the-following-content-is-not-acceptable.html

So much for "themes of control or humiliation."  Seems drinking female ejaculate is verbot, but drinking male ejaculate is a-okay without exceptions.  So if it really is control themes, that's one glaring double standard.

You know what's controlling and humiliating?  Splashing your DNA all over some woman's eggs and forcing her to either get an abortion or have your baby, AND to get fat and immobile.

Facials are feminism in action.

Still, pregnancy play is fun. :blush:
:lol:
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: Norgy on December 03, 2014, 07:30:47 AM
Quote from: Ideologue on December 02, 2014, 11:24:18 PM

Facials are feminism in action.



:lol: :Embarrass:
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: CountDeMoney on December 03, 2014, 07:51:14 AM
Yeah, I'm going to have to remember that when Planned Parenthood hits me up for a donation next time.  "Let me tell you about facials..."
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: Sheilbh on December 10, 2014, 10:20:13 AM
So there's going to be a mass face-sitting protest in Parliament Square this Friday :mellow:
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: Ideologue on December 10, 2014, 10:36:47 AM
Rodney King! Rodney King!
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: Malthus on December 10, 2014, 10:40:31 AM
Quote from: Ideologue on December 10, 2014, 10:36:47 AM
Rodney King! Rodney King!

Wouldn't "I can't breathe!" be more apropos?  :hmm:
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: Ideologue on December 10, 2014, 10:44:52 AM
Not if my goal isn't to be topicl but instead to reference obscute comedy super-classic, Airheads.

Brendan Fraser. :wub: :(
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: Sheilbh on December 10, 2014, 10:51:01 AM
:o Whatever happened to him?
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: Ideologue on December 10, 2014, 11:00:07 AM
He did too many marginal movies, and became a joke.

A pity, since Airheads, The Mummy, and (genuinely obscure) Blast From the Past are all pretty great in their own way.
Also Gods and Monsters. Probably. :blush:
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: Sheilbh on December 10, 2014, 11:02:48 AM
<_<

Movie budget doesn't extend that far, eh?
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: celedhring on December 10, 2014, 11:09:52 AM
Fraser was a bland hunk lead, he stopped getting parts when he became too old and fat to be a bland hunk lead.
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: Eddie Teach on December 10, 2014, 11:10:32 AM
Quote from: Ideologue on December 10, 2014, 11:00:07 AM
He did too many marginal movies, and became a joke.

A pity, since Airheads, The Mummy, and (genuinely obscure) Blast From the Past are all pretty great in their own way.
Also Gods and Monsters. Probably. :blush:

Not to mention his worst one, Crash.  :P
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: Ideologue on December 10, 2014, 11:19:01 AM
Quote from: Sheilbh on December 10, 2014, 11:02:48 AM
<_<

Movie budget doesn't extend that far, eh?

I'd watch the prequel with Michael Fassbender.
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: The Larch on December 10, 2014, 11:27:25 AM
Quote from: celedhring on December 10, 2014, 11:09:52 AM
Fraser was a bland hunk lead, he stopped getting parts when he became too old and fat to be a bland hunk lead.

I think he has the talent to be a cartoonish comical lead man. Bedazzled has always been a guilty pleasure of mine, and he was great in the Mummy series. George of the Jungle is pretty good too.
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: Sheilbh on December 10, 2014, 11:38:29 AM
Quote from: The Larch on December 10, 2014, 11:27:25 AM
Quote from: celedhring on December 10, 2014, 11:09:52 AM
Fraser was a bland hunk lead, he stopped getting parts when he became too old and fat to be a bland hunk lead.

I think he has the talent to be a cartoonish comical lead man. Bedazzled has always been a guilty pleasure of mine, and he was great in the Mummy series. George of the Jungle is pretty good too.
Yeah. I'm not sure so many bland leads would pull off his self-deprecation anywhere near so well.
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: celedhring on December 10, 2014, 11:41:07 AM
He might, and he was decent in the Mummy flicks, but that ship has sailed for him:

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpravda-team.ru%2Feng%2Fimage%2Fphoto%2F1%2F5%2F6%2F72156.jpeg&hash=0d7c3a7808cad181d1fd2635a9f667e19a8a6506)

I think his best part is Gods and Monsters, fwiw.
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: Martinus on December 10, 2014, 11:42:31 AM
Oh god. And to think I used to find him hot...  :yucky:
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: CountDeMoney on December 10, 2014, 11:45:52 AM
Quote from: Ideologue on December 10, 2014, 10:44:52 AM
Not if my goal isn't to be topicl but instead to reference obscute comedy super-classic, Airheads.

Brendan Fraser. :wub: :(

LOL, it's a trick question!

Fuck, Nina Siemaszko was so fucking hot in that.   Absolutely not your type though, which happens to be an advanced stage of dysentery.
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: Sheilbh on December 10, 2014, 11:48:54 AM
Quote from: Ideologue on December 10, 2014, 11:19:01 AM
Quote from: Sheilbh on December 10, 2014, 11:02:48 AM
<_<

Movie budget doesn't extend that far, eh?

I'd watch the prequel with Michael Fassbender.
I'd love that :mellow:

Maybe as Whale making Frankenstein plus fictional gay sub-plot :lol:

QuoteHe might, and he was decent in the Mummy flicks, but that ship has sailed for him:
It really has. How sad :(
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: The Brain on December 10, 2014, 01:23:14 PM
Encino Man. :wub:
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: Rasputin on December 10, 2014, 04:40:04 PM
Quote from: HVC on December 02, 2014, 09:46:00 AM
I see the reasoning of the others. It's stupid, but I see it. But why is female ejaculation  banned?  Also, who is watching English porn?

I prefer british porn; the accents make me feel more sophisticated and smug. Its like watching masterpiece theatre with coochies!
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: Rasputin on December 10, 2014, 04:45:55 PM
Quote from: The Larch on December 02, 2014, 11:49:45 AM
A good friend of mine recently started dating a girl who turned out to be a big time squirter. He is utterly fascinated by it now.

I prefer squirters; their seuizure like behaviour is a real power trip.

In my experience with them though, there is no consistency to it. Sometimes they go off like old faithful; sometimes they dont.
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: CountDeMoney on December 10, 2014, 05:14:49 PM
Quote from: Rasputin on December 10, 2014, 04:40:04 PM
Quote from: HVC on December 02, 2014, 09:46:00 AM
I see the reasoning of the others. It's stupid, but I see it. But why is female ejaculation  banned?  Also, who is watching English porn?

I prefer british porn; the accents make me feel more sophisticated and smug. Its like watching masterpiece theatre with coochies!

:lol:  They have some real hotties over there, but I have to turn down the volume.  The accents give me Mary Poppins flashbacks, and combining that with sex takes me to a place I don't really want to be.
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: Ideologue on December 10, 2014, 06:43:20 PM
I think the chavvier accents are fucking awful.  They sound dumber than a Southern accent.

Indeed, usually even an educated British accent is unattractive (on a woman, I mean).  It's not made for higher pitches.
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: Ed Anger on December 10, 2014, 06:44:35 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on December 10, 2014, 06:43:20 PM
I think the chavvier accents are fucking awful.  They sound dumber than a Southern accent.

Indeed, usually even an educated British accent is unattractive (on a woman, I mean).  It's not made for higher pitches.

Ever hear a Geordie accent? Sounds like a retard talking.
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: Ideologue on December 10, 2014, 06:46:59 PM
Yep.  One of the few things I disliked when I watched The Descent the other day (directed by a guy from Newcastle-on-Tyne, filmed in Scotland and north England) was that it's set in North Carolina and they make fun of Southerners and our "barn dances."

Great movie, but I wanted to shout back at her not to let her baby starve just because the heroin feels good. <_<
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: CountDeMoney on December 10, 2014, 07:09:54 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on December 10, 2014, 06:43:20 PM
I think the chavvier accents are fucking awful.  They sound dumber than a Southern accent.

Indeed, usually even an educated British accent is unattractive (on a woman, I mean).  It's not made for higher pitches.

Professor Henry Higgins should've used electro-shock treatment.
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: Ideologue on December 10, 2014, 07:11:28 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: Razgovory on December 10, 2014, 07:30:04 PM
Quote from: Rasputin on December 10, 2014, 04:40:04 PM
Quote from: HVC on December 02, 2014, 09:46:00 AM
I see the reasoning of the others. It's stupid, but I see it. But why is female ejaculation  banned?  Also, who is watching English porn?

I prefer british porn; the accents make me feel more sophisticated and smug. Its like watching masterpiece theatre with coochies!

God, the accents are awful most of the time.  It's usually lower class chav accents.  They have a harsh whinny tone that's annoys the fuck out of me.
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: Habbaku on December 10, 2014, 07:42:02 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on December 10, 2014, 07:30:04 PM
They have a harsh whinny tone that's annoys the fuck out of me.

Careful, The Brain might hear you.
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: Razgovory on December 10, 2014, 07:49:05 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on December 10, 2014, 07:42:02 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on December 10, 2014, 07:30:04 PM
They have a harsh whinny tone that's annoys the fuck out of me.

Careful, The Brain might hear you.


Man, my brain rarely even knows what I'm saying.  We aren't exactly on the best of terms.  I found it's best if I cut it out of decision making all together.
Title: Re: UK bans production of certain types of porn
Post by: Eddie Teach on December 10, 2014, 08:08:28 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on December 10, 2014, 06:43:20 PM
Indeed, usually even an educated British accent is unattractive (on a woman, I mean).  It's not made for higher pitches.

:wacko: