http://www.citylab.com/housing/2014/08/take-a-san-francisco-gentrification-quiz-from-1985/376126/
... by 1985 San Francisco standards?
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Scored 105 points.
That being said we have a "designer" croissant/baguette bakery called "Petit Appetit" and a restaurant which doubles as a fish market selling fresh seafood flown in from Portugal twice a week. :hmm:
Hard to say. My immediate block has become pretty low rent (store named $1 pizza, $2 beer / made closed store fronts for several months now) but on the flip side within a few block radius, we've most of those that are still relevant.
144.
But a lot of those stores are "normal" in Barcelona.
Argentine "parmesan" ? :lol: That's upscale for those who call any sparkling wine champagne I guess.
I judge how upscale my community is by how many Dazzling Urbanites can afford to drive entry-level luxury imports from CarMax with expired temp tags. MOVIN ON UP
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on August 20, 2014, 08:43:57 AM
Argentine "parmesan" ? :lol: That's upscale for those who call any sparkling wine champagne I guess.
Well one it was the 80s but secondly, I don't really get the issue here. I could see it as same indignation if it was labeled Argentine Parmigiano-Reggiano but...
Like most residential neighbourhoods mine doesn't have any shops.
I'm in the deep suburbs. My neighborhood has a gas station, and that's it. :mellow:
Um no I live in the suburbs. The only thing around me are chain stores.
Only thing around me are more houses/apartment buildings.
Over here a Delice de France means you're in a train station. It serevs crap bakery stuff that you eat on the way home when you're pissed and starving and there's no MaccieDs around.
Must be different over there
Quote from: Gups on August 20, 2014, 09:54:36 AM
Over here a Delice de France means you're in a train station. It serevs crap bakery stuff that you eat on the way home when you're pissed and starving and there's no MaccieDs around.
Must be different over there
You know...in Japan too there is a crappy train station bakery called something de France... Strange.
In Europe there is a whole crappy country called something France.
Quote from: Gups on August 20, 2014, 09:54:36 AM
Over here a Delice de France means you're in a train station. It serevs crap bakery stuff that you eat on the way home when you're pissed and starving and there's no MaccieDs around.
Must be different over there
Delice, Delices?
Like BB, I live in a suburban fortress. It scored 20 points.
What, the crew at the local McDonald's knowing you by your first name gets no points? What a shitty test.
15 points for a Mexican bakery.
We're pretty upscale by those standards, though no one would advertise flying in sea food from the East Coast.
No exotic birds or video rental places. Unsurprisingly we don't have an aerobics place either, but it's not '85 any more; we've got enough yoga places though.
Quote from: Jacob on August 20, 2014, 01:06:30 PM
No video rental places.
I'm sure you do, they're just much smaller now. ;)
94, or there abouts. But I feel I should get extra points for having 3 cycle repair shops and 8 coffee shops within a 100 radius.
Oh and 4-5 shared offices with either skateboards or motorcycles mounted on the walls. :bleeding:
I end up at around 160. But most bakeries offer what's listed there, and most hairdressers here are unisex (only Muslim/Turkish ones are usually male or female only).
Quote from: Syt on August 20, 2014, 07:50:10 AM
http://www.citylab.com/housing/2014/08/take-a-san-francisco-gentrification-quiz-from-1985/376126/
... by 1985 San Francisco standards?
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I have to go in town, technically another city, to get some of this stuff. Of course, the names are in french, but it ain't a foreign language here :P
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on August 20, 2014, 01:13:00 PM
Quote from: Jacob on August 20, 2014, 01:06:30 PM
No video rental places.
I'm sure you do, they're just much smaller now. ;)
Not in my immediate neighbourhood. There are a few that are still hanging on, however.
Quote from: Liep on August 20, 2014, 01:13:17 PM
94, or there abouts. But I feel I should get extra points for having 3 cycle repair shops and 8 coffee shops within a 100 radius.
Oh and 4-5 shared offices with either skateboards or motorcycles mounted on the walls. :bleeding:
Where do you live?
Quote from: Jacob on August 20, 2014, 01:50:33 PM
Quote from: Liep on August 20, 2014, 01:13:17 PM
94, or there abouts. But I feel I should get extra points for having 3 cycle repair shops and 8 coffee shops within a 100 radius.
Oh and 4-5 shared offices with either skateboards or motorcycles mounted on the walls. :bleeding:
Where do you live?
Vesterbro. And 4 cycle shops, I forgot the one in the basement with the atrocious red/yellow fixie outside.
Quote from: Liep on August 20, 2014, 01:53:35 PM
Vesterbro. And 4 cycle shops, I forgot the one in the basement with the atrocious red/yellow fixie outside.
Though, that said given how much bikes are used in Copenhagen, bike shops seem much less upscale than the ones popping up in North American.
My neigbourhood actually has a video rental place, though they mostly sell cellphones now. Must be the last one in the city. :lol:
One thing missing on that list: a fresh fruit and vegitable store that has a walk-in cooler just for fresh-cut flowers. My neighbourhood has three of these! ;)
I can't wrap my head around residential neighborhoods that also have commercial businesses in them. Crazy! :wacko:
Quote from: Barrister on August 20, 2014, 02:18:45 PM
I can't wrap my head around residential neighborhoods that also have commercial businesses in them. Crazy! :wacko:
Mixed use neighbourhoods have been all the rage in these places called "cities" for several millenia now. Crazy stuff, I know.
Quote from: Jacob on August 20, 2014, 02:20:33 PM
Quote from: Barrister on August 20, 2014, 02:18:45 PM
I can't wrap my head around residential neighborhoods that also have commercial businesses in them. Crazy! :wacko:
Mixed use neighbourhoods have been all the rage in these places called "cities" for several millenia now. Crazy stuff, I know.
Evidently, Alberta hasn't reached that stage in social evolution yet. ;)
Quote from: Jacob on August 20, 2014, 02:20:33 PM
Quote from: Barrister on August 20, 2014, 02:18:45 PM
I can't wrap my head around residential neighborhoods that also have commercial businesses in them. Crazy! :wacko:
Mixed use neighbourhoods have been all the rage in these places called "cities" for several millenia now. Crazy stuff, I know.
You have to remember that BB considers Whitehorse to be a major urban area.
Quote from: Valmy on August 20, 2014, 02:25:49 PM
Quote from: Jacob on August 20, 2014, 02:20:33 PM
Quote from: Barrister on August 20, 2014, 02:18:45 PM
I can't wrap my head around residential neighborhoods that also have commercial businesses in them. Crazy! :wacko:
Mixed use neighbourhoods have been all the rage in these places called "cities" for several millenia now. Crazy stuff, I know.
You have to remember that BB considers Whitehorse to be a major urban area.
Actually Whitehorse is quite a progressive city and it's neighborhoods had a good mix of residential and commercial property.
It was more a comment on my mid-90s subdivision in Edmonton. <_<
I think my neighborhood here in Florida gets negative points for having a murder house and a former drug house. ;)
Even "Downtown" Melbourne would only score about 45 on the list (though admittedly there's no need to fly fish in from the east coast; you can walk there.)
My neighborhood in Michigan would be about 70. Ferndale is one of the blue collar inner suburbs that decayed as badly as the city in the 1970s. It rebounded in the 1990s when gay people moved there. It's hip by Detroit standards; but even by the standards of 1980s San Francisco it still hasn't gentrified.
Quote from: Savonarola on August 20, 2014, 02:43:02 PM
I think my neighborhood here in Florida gets negative points for having a murder house and a former drug house. ;)
Detroit just follows you wherever you go.
Is it following him, or does he bring it along? :hmm:
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on August 20, 2014, 08:43:57 AM
Argentine "parmesan" ? :lol: That's upscale for those who call any sparkling wine champagne I guess.
That was the first thing I noticed too :lol:
Yes. And ever more so <_<
Quote from: Liep on August 20, 2014, 01:53:35 PM
Quote from: Jacob on August 20, 2014, 01:50:33 PM
Quote from: Liep on August 20, 2014, 01:13:17 PM
94, or there abouts. But I feel I should get extra points for having 3 cycle repair shops and 8 coffee shops within a 100 radius.
Oh and 4-5 shared offices with either skateboards or motorcycles mounted on the walls. :bleeding:
Where do you live?
I stayed there last year - near those lakes and the little planetrium (is that still Vesterbro?). Nice area - much preferred it and Frederiksberg to the Tivoli area.
Vesterbro. And 4 cycle shops, I forgot the one in the basement with the atrocious red/yellow fixie outside.
My neighborhood isn't upscale, maybe the town center is a little bit, but not much relative to other MA towns. The town also has a larger business base which adds to the tax base, keeping home property taxes down which is nice for me. The town seems very well run though, having its own electric dept which is great for fast response during storm outages, etc. Most areas of the town seem to be well kept up by residents. The more upscale towns are expensive to buy into, and have high taxes as they have little or no industry, not even much in the way of shopping or stores, which is probably part of their appeal. Some areas of Boston have been getting more upscale, or gentrified, for many years. South Boston is going through that process, probably slowly but it's been happening for years now in Southie.
Quote from: Gups on August 21, 2014, 02:38:11 AM
I stayed there last year - near those lakes and the little planetrium (is that still Vesterbro?). Nice area - much preferred it and Frederiksberg to the Tivoli area.
I think it is, but that's right where the line is between Frederiksberg and Vesterbro. Technically Tivoli is also Vesterbro, but that area with the city hall included is completely different from the rest.
a nearby cul-de-sac has some fancy looking homes. :)
but, my apartment neighbors are all white trash. :(
Quote from: Valmy on August 20, 2014, 03:01:34 PM
Quote from: Savonarola on August 20, 2014, 02:43:02 PM
I think my neighborhood here in Florida gets negative points for having a murder house and a former drug house. ;)
Detroit just follows you wherever you go.
I keeps it real; just like Kwame. :cool:
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on August 20, 2014, 03:09:30 PM
Is it following him, or does he bring it along? :hmm:
I'm pretty sure Florida had crime before I got here. Someone was keeping Crockett and Tubbs busy.
Lol, Florida is its own special slice of bullshit.
My town now has a particularly stupid type of hipster shop, it was so much trivia, I can't describe what it sells. <_<
For a couple of years we've had an Aga shop and recently we've acquired one of those fake Waterstones bookshops, which has so few books for sale it's actually a coffee shop.
Truely we're turning into a little London in the countryside/forest. <_<
Quote from: Savonarola on August 22, 2014, 08:08:09 AM
I'm pretty sure Florida had crime before I got here. Someone was keeping Crockett and Tubbs busy.
My brother married a church girl from the Armpit. She said running drugs in from mother ships on speed boats was a viable career choice among her peer group.
Quote from: mongers on August 22, 2014, 07:02:13 PM
My town now has a particularly stupid type of hipster shop, it was so much trivia, I can't describe what it sells. <_<
For a couple of years we've had an Aga shop and recently we've acquired one of those fake Waterstones bookshops, which has so few books for sale it's actually a coffee shop.
Truely we're turning into a little London in the countryside/forest. <_<
Plus Waterstone's is owned by a Russian closely connected to Putin.
Incidentally, would hipster shops = upscale? I thought that would be a different talent tree, so to speak.
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Quote from: Martinus on August 23, 2014, 01:55:01 AM
Incidentally, would hipster shops = upscale? I thought that would be a different talent tree, so to speak.
Upscale is both a direction and a place. So a new bike/coffee shop might move a seedy neighborhood upscale, but not make it upscale.