Languish.org

General Category => Off the Record => Topic started by: jimmy olsen on June 09, 2009, 07:50:57 PM

Title: Iran now has enough uranium to make a nuclear bomb
Post by: jimmy olsen on June 09, 2009, 07:50:57 PM
Horrifying :bleeding:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8086565.stm

Quote

Uranium found at second Syria site - IAEA
By Bethany Bell
BBC News, Vienna

Page last updated at 23:21 GMT, Friday, 5 June 2009 00:21 UK

Undated photo released by CIA of alleged nuclear reactor under construction in Syria.
Syria says the al-Kibar site was a disused military building

The UN nuclear watchdog, the IAEA, says traces of undeclared man-made uranium have been found at a second site in Syria, at a reactor in Damascus.

The IAEA is investigating US claims that a Syrian site destroyed in a 2007 Israeli raid was a nuclear reactor that was not yet operational.

Separately, the agency says Iran is continuing to enrich uranium in defiance of the UN Security Council.

Both Iran and Syria deny allegations of illicit nuclear activities.

'Link unclear'

Last year, the IAEA (International Atomic Energy Agency) found particles of man-made uranium at the al-Kibar site in Syria, which was destroyed by Israeli missiles in September 2007.

Now in a confidential report obtained by the BBC, it says it has discovered new traces of uranium of a type not included in Syria's declared nuclear material.

The traces were found at a small reactor used for teaching in Damascus.

The IAEA says it is not clear whether there is a link between the particles found at the two sites.

In a separate report, the IAEA says Iran now has about 7,000 centrifuges - the machines used for enriching uranium. The agency says that Tehran is running almost 5,000 of them.

It also says that Iran has boosted its stockpile of low-enriched uranium (LEU) by 500kg to more than 1,300kg in the last six months.

David Albright of the Washington-based Institute for Science and International Security think-tank has said that Iran now had enough LEU to convert into high-enriched uranium (HEU) to make one atomic bomb.

However, he said Iran would need to overcome some technical hurdles to achieve this - a process that could take several years or more.

A senior official close to the IAEA says the agency has made little progress in its investigations in Iran and in Syria.

The agency has urged both countries to co-operate with its inspectors.
Title: Re: Iran now has enough uranium to make a nuclear bomb
Post by: Grey Fox on June 09, 2009, 07:54:33 PM
1?

:lol:
Title: Re: Iran now has enough uranium to make a nuclear bomb
Post by: Grallon on June 09, 2009, 07:55:22 PM
We're doomed! ^_^



G.
Title: Re: Iran now has enough uranium to make a nuclear bomb
Post by: jimmy olsen on June 09, 2009, 08:00:23 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on June 09, 2009, 07:54:33 PM
1?

:lol:
Is a nuclear bomb something to be laughed at? All it takes is one for Tel Aviv to be razed to the ground.
Title: Re: Iran now has enough uranium to make a nuclear bomb
Post by: Neil on June 09, 2009, 08:11:26 PM
We must strike immediately.
Title: Re: Iran now has enough uranium to make a nuclear bomb
Post by: DontSayBanana on June 09, 2009, 08:23:16 PM
Right under what Tim bolded, the article says that while Iran has enough uranium to enrich to build a bomb, they're still several years away from having the technology for the construction of the bomb.
Title: Re: Iran now has enough uranium to make a nuclear bomb
Post by: HVC on June 09, 2009, 08:36:37 PM
Tim, for a guy who seems uncanningly cheerful, you sure do look up a lot of bad news.
Title: Re: Iran now has enough uranium to make a nuclear bomb
Post by: jimmy olsen on June 09, 2009, 08:44:08 PM
Quote from: HVC on June 09, 2009, 08:36:37 PM
Tim, for a guy who seems uncanningly cheerful, you sure do look up a lot of bad news.
The internet exaggerates things.

Ask people who've meet me like Caliga and Wags, I'm not like people here think I am.
Title: Re: Iran now has enough uranium to make a nuclear bomb
Post by: Grey Fox on June 09, 2009, 08:45:52 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 09, 2009, 08:00:23 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on June 09, 2009, 07:54:33 PM
1?

:lol:
Is a nuclear bomb something to be laughed at? All it takes is one for Tel Aviv to be razed to the ground.

How do you test if it works if you can only build one?
Title: Re: Iran now has enough uranium to make a nuclear bomb
Post by: HVC on June 09, 2009, 08:46:09 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 09, 2009, 08:44:08 PM
Quote from: HVC on June 09, 2009, 08:36:37 PM
Tim, for a guy who seems uncanningly cheerful, you sure do look up a lot of bad news.
The internet exaggerates things.

Ask people who've meet me like Caliga and Wags, I'm not like people here think I am.
What, IRL you're a doomsday cultist? :lol:
Title: Re: Iran now has enough uranium to make a nuclear bomb
Post by: jimmy olsen on June 09, 2009, 08:49:41 PM
Quote from: HVC on June 09, 2009, 08:46:09 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 09, 2009, 08:44:08 PM
Quote from: HVC on June 09, 2009, 08:36:37 PM
Tim, for a guy who seems uncanningly cheerful, you sure do look up a lot of bad news.
The internet exaggerates things.

Ask people who've meet me like Caliga and Wags, I'm not like people here think I am.
What, IRL you're a doomsday cultist? :lol:
No, but people have such a skewed view of me here that simply having an average disposition is a huge difference from what people expect.
Title: Re: Iran now has enough uranium to make a nuclear bomb
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 09, 2009, 09:05:43 PM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on June 09, 2009, 08:23:16 PM
Right under what Tim bolded, the article says that while Iran has enough uranium to enrich to build a bomb, they're still several years away from having the technology for the construction of the bomb.

Well then, there's nothing to worry about, now is there, Neville?
Title: Re: Iran now has enough uranium to make a nuclear bomb
Post by: Razgovory on June 09, 2009, 09:13:04 PM
Quote from: Neil on June 09, 2009, 08:11:26 PM
We must strike immediately.

Oh I don't think it's that bad.  Tim does this all the time we don't need to kill him over this one article.
Title: Re: Iran now has enough uranium to make a nuclear bomb
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 09, 2009, 09:47:07 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on June 09, 2009, 09:13:04 PMTim does this all the time we don't need to kill him over this one article.

I disagree.
Title: Re: Iran now has enough uranium to make a nuclear bomb
Post by: jimmy olsen on June 09, 2009, 09:51:43 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 09, 2009, 09:47:07 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on June 09, 2009, 09:13:04 PMTim does this all the time we don't need to kill him over this one article.

I disagree.
Ass, you agree with me on this issue.  :D

Also, your sig is fantastic.  :lol:
Title: Re: Iran now has enough uranium to make a nuclear bomb
Post by: Razgovory on June 09, 2009, 11:37:14 PM
Poor Tim.  Slated for death.  I tried, man.  I tried.
Title: Re: Iran now has enough uranium to make a nuclear bomb
Post by: Queequeg on June 10, 2009, 02:27:38 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 09, 2009, 08:00:23 PM
Is a nuclear bomb something to be laughed at? All it takes is one for Tel Aviv to be razed to the ground.
They'd risk the utter annihilation of their entire civilization for one strike on an Israeli city with thousands of Arabs and right next to Palestine?   :huh:
Title: Re: Iran now has enough uranium to make a nuclear bomb
Post by: Lucidor on June 10, 2009, 02:43:09 AM
Quote from: Queequeg on June 10, 2009, 02:27:38 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 09, 2009, 08:00:23 PM
Is a nuclear bomb something to be laughed at? All it takes is one for Tel Aviv to be razed to the ground.
They'd risk the utter annihilation of their entire civilization for one strike on an Israeli city with thousands of Arabs and right next to Palestine?   :huh:
True, Israel might retaliate... ;)
Title: Re: Iran now has enough uranium to make a nuclear bomb
Post by: Syt on June 10, 2009, 02:51:21 AM
Quote from: Queequeg on June 10, 2009, 02:27:38 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 09, 2009, 08:00:23 PM
Is a nuclear bomb something to be laughed at? All it takes is one for Tel Aviv to be razed to the ground.
They'd risk the utter annihilation of their entire civilization for one strike on an Israeli city with thousands of Arabs and right next to Palestine?   :huh:

Would any western power actually retaliate like that? The media would give the politicians all kinds of hell for killing all the reform willing, pro-west young folks for something their irresponsible leaders did.
Title: Re: Iran now has enough uranium to make a nuclear bomb
Post by: Alatriste on June 10, 2009, 03:04:48 AM
Wrong, Jim.

Iran has got enough non enriched uranium to feed their centrifugues. Once those 1300 kgs of 'raw' uranium have been completely processed the Iranians will have got the uranium needed to make a bomb.

But that's nothing new, there is a reason the headline is "Uranium found at second Syria site - IAEA" and not "Iran ready to make a nuclear bomb".
Title: Re: Iran now has enough uranium to make a nuclear bomb
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 10, 2009, 05:39:10 AM
Quote from: Syt on June 10, 2009, 02:51:21 AMall the reform willing, pro-west young folks

:lol: Somebody still believes in unicorns.
Title: Re: Iran now has enough uranium to make a nuclear bomb
Post by: Syt on June 10, 2009, 05:49:38 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 10, 2009, 05:39:10 AM
Quote from: Syt on June 10, 2009, 02:51:21 AMall the reform willing, pro-west young folks

:lol: Somebody still believes in unicorns.

The media. :yes:
Title: Re: Iran now has enough uranium to make a nuclear bomb
Post by: DontSayBanana on June 10, 2009, 07:15:37 AM
Quote from: Alatriste on June 10, 2009, 03:04:48 AM
Wrong, Jim.

Iran has got enough non enriched uranium to feed their centrifugues. Once those 1300 kgs of 'raw' uranium have been completely processed the Iranians will have got the uranium needed to make a bomb.

But that's nothing new, there is a reason the headline is "Uranium found at second Syria site - IAEA" and not "Iran ready to make a nuclear bomb".

Which is what the title claims; it wasn't "Iran now has enough HEU to make a nuclear bomb." :contract:

Don't mind me; I've just been in a pissy mood the past couple days and feel like splitting hairs. :D
Title: Re: Iran now has enough uranium to make a nuclear bomb
Post by: Neil on June 10, 2009, 08:06:15 AM
Quote from: Queequeg on June 10, 2009, 02:27:38 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 09, 2009, 08:00:23 PM
Is a nuclear bomb something to be laughed at? All it takes is one for Tel Aviv to be razed to the ground.
They'd risk the utter annihilation of their entire civilization for one strike on an Israeli city with thousands of Arabs and right next to Palestine?   :huh:
Of course they would.  They're not people.  They don't think like people do.
Title: Re: Iran now has enough uranium to make a nuclear bomb
Post by: The Minsky Moment on June 10, 2009, 08:53:39 AM
Quote from: Queequeg on June 10, 2009, 02:27:38 AM
with thousands of Arabs and right next to Palestine?   :huh:

I am confident in the willigness of Iranians to fight to the last Arab.
Title: Re: Iran now has enough uranium to make a nuclear bomb
Post by: Berkut on June 10, 2009, 08:56:01 AM
Nothing to see hear, it will still be <some long time, albeit less than before> before Iran can actually nuke anyone! Move along, move along, the appeasement train will be coming through on schedule, and we wouldn't want anyone to get hurt!
Title: Re: Iran now has enough uranium to make a nuclear bomb
Post by: DontSayBanana on June 10, 2009, 09:03:39 AM
Berkut, Iran is still a sovereign country. It's a little late for non-proliferation, so at this point all we can do is apply diplomatic pressure to make sure the nuke tech they already have ends up in the hands of a sane (or at least less combative) government.
Title: Re: Iran now has enough uranium to make a nuclear bomb
Post by: Berkut on June 10, 2009, 09:18:48 AM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on June 10, 2009, 09:03:39 AM
Berkut, Iran is still a sovereign country. It's a little late for non-proliferation, so at this point all we can do is apply diplomatic pressure to make sure the nuke tech they already have ends up in the hands of a sane (or at least less combative) government.

Of course, we must apply diplomatic pressure, because that will make them a sane government....who wants to wipe Israel from the face of the earth.

This will surely all work out fine.

Move along! Everything is fine! Applying diplomatic pressure, and then we may even apply more pressure if that pressure doesn't work! Strongly worded notes are a possibility!
Title: Re: Iran now has enough uranium to make a nuclear bomb
Post by: DontSayBanana on June 10, 2009, 09:23:28 AM
Quote from: Berkut on June 10, 2009, 09:18:48 AM
Of course, we must apply diplomatic pressure, because that will make them a sane government....who wants to wipe Israel from the face of the earth.

This will surely all work out fine.

Move along! Everything is fine! Applying diplomatic pressure, and then we may even apply more pressure if that pressure doesn't work! Strongly worded notes are a possibility!

Sanctions, dipshit. We can't glass 'em over, but at least starving them out is still legal.
Title: Re: Iran now has enough uranium to make a nuclear bomb
Post by: Berkut on June 10, 2009, 09:24:10 AM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on June 10, 2009, 09:23:28 AM
Quote from: Berkut on June 10, 2009, 09:18:48 AM
Of course, we must apply diplomatic pressure, because that will make them a sane government....who wants to wipe Israel from the face of the earth.

This will surely all work out fine.

Move along! Everything is fine! Applying diplomatic pressure, and then we may even apply more pressure if that pressure doesn't work! Strongly worded notes are a possibility!

Sanctions, dipshit. We can't glass 'em over, but at least starving them out is still legal.

Oh sure, kill another quarter million children and infants, real nice, monster.
Title: Re: Iran now has enough uranium to make a nuclear bomb
Post by: DontSayBanana on June 10, 2009, 09:29:51 AM
Quote from: Berkut on June 10, 2009, 09:24:10 AM
Oh sure, kill another quarter million children and infants, real nice, monster.
Whoop-de-fucking doo; kids are cheap maids and shoemakers anyway, depending on whether you live in the first world or the third.

Anyway, diplomacy's out, they've already got the tech, so stealing it and destroying their copies of stuff isn't legal, and as many problems as Khameini ending up on the wrong end of a sniper's rifle would solve, that isn't going to happen either. You boohoo everything and this is where it gets you.
Title: Re: Iran now has enough uranium to make a nuclear bomb
Post by: Josquius on June 10, 2009, 09:37:38 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 09, 2009, 08:00:23 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on June 09, 2009, 07:54:33 PM
1?

:lol:
Is a nuclear bomb something to be laughed at? All it takes is one for Tel Aviv to be razed to the ground.

Because that's really going to happen.
The idea that Iran will willingly commit suicide anyway is daft. That they would do it and not even destroy Israel with them?
Title: Re: Iran now has enough uranium to make a nuclear bomb
Post by: garbon on June 10, 2009, 09:38:30 AM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on June 10, 2009, 09:29:51 AM
Whoop-de-fucking doo; kids are cheap maids and shoemakers anyway, depending on whether you live in the first world or the third.

Anyway, diplomacy's out, they've already got the tech, so stealing it and destroying their copies of stuff isn't legal, and as many problems as Khameini ending up on the wrong end of a sniper's rifle would solve, that isn't going to happen either. You boohoo everything and this is where it gets you.

Aren't trolls supposed to be interesting and/or entertaining?
Title: Re: Iran now has enough uranium to make a nuclear bomb
Post by: Neil on June 10, 2009, 11:00:00 AM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on June 10, 2009, 09:29:51 AM
Quote from: Berkut on June 10, 2009, 09:24:10 AM
Oh sure, kill another quarter million children and infants, real nice, monster.
Whoop-de-fucking doo; kids are cheap maids and shoemakers anyway, depending on whether you live in the first world or the third.
To be fair, third-world adults are also useless.

Why can't we exterminate the entire race again?
Title: Re: Iran now has enough uranium to make a nuclear bomb
Post by: DontSayBanana on June 10, 2009, 05:07:22 PM
Quote from: garbon on June 10, 2009, 09:38:30 AM
Aren't trolls supposed to be interesting and/or entertaining?

Your mistake is assuming that they're meant to be entertaining to you.

And you call me pompous. :P
Title: Re: Iran now has enough uranium to make a nuclear bomb
Post by: Queequeg on June 10, 2009, 05:13:18 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on June 10, 2009, 08:53:39 AM
Quote from: Queequeg on June 10, 2009, 02:27:38 AM
with thousands of Arabs and right next to Palestine?   :huh:

I am confident in the willigness of Iranians to fight to the last Arab.
:lmfao:

This pretty much sums up all of Iranian foreign policy of the last 600 years or so; support internecine conflicts among Arabs, wait until last Arab is dead and take all of Middle East. 
Title: Re: Iran now has enough uranium to make a nuclear bomb
Post by: garbon on June 10, 2009, 05:20:21 PM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on June 10, 2009, 05:07:22 PM
Your mistake is assuming that they're meant to be entertaining to you.

And you call me pompous. :P

Perhaps the class will participate in a show of hands to see who was amused.
Title: Re: Iran now has enough uranium to make a nuclear bomb
Post by: Neil on June 10, 2009, 05:23:28 PM
Quote from: Queequeg on June 10, 2009, 05:13:18 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on June 10, 2009, 08:53:39 AM
Quote from: Queequeg on June 10, 2009, 02:27:38 AM
with thousands of Arabs and right next to Palestine?   :huh:

I am confident in the willigness of Iranians to fight to the last Arab.
:lmfao:

This pretty much sums up all of Iranian foreign policy of the last 600 years or so; support internecine conflicts among Arabs, wait until last Arab is dead and take all of Middle East.
Maybe if they had been more constructive, they wouldn't have spent most of the last 200 years as a slave race.
Title: Re: Iran now has enough uranium to make a nuclear bomb
Post by: DontSayBanana on June 10, 2009, 05:28:41 PM
Quote from: garbon on June 10, 2009, 05:20:21 PM
Perhaps the class will participate in a show of hands to see who was amused.

My hand's up, and from my standpoint, that's the only one that counts. You're just a few lines of random pathetic elitist text on some web page to me. I just treat all your posts as if they were intended to be punch lines.
Title: Re: Iran now has enough uranium to make a nuclear bomb
Post by: Habsburg on June 10, 2009, 05:32:21 PM
Quote from: Neil on June 10, 2009, 11:00:00 AM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on June 10, 2009, 09:29:51 AM
Quote from: Berkut on June 10, 2009, 09:24:10 AM
Oh sure, kill another quarter million children and infants, real nice, monster.
Whoop-de-------- doo; kids are cheap maids and shoemakers anyway, depending on whether you live in the first world or the third.
To be fair, third-world adults are also useless.

Why can't we exterminate the entire race again?

This.  :contract:
Title: Re: Iran now has enough uranium to make a nuclear bomb
Post by: DontSayBanana on June 10, 2009, 05:36:39 PM
Quote from: Habsburg on June 10, 2009, 05:32:21 PM
This.  :contract:

Hey, I'll put you in charge of Vault 1 and Neil in charge of Vault 2... the purge will start with the West Coast and work eastward. :ph34r:
Title: Re: Iran now has enough uranium to make a nuclear bomb
Post by: Habsburg on June 10, 2009, 05:40:16 PM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on June 10, 2009, 05:36:39 PM
Quote from: Habsburg on June 10, 2009, 05:32:21 PM
This.  :contract:

Hey, I'll put you in charge of Vault 1 and Neil in charge of Vault 2... the purge will start with the West Coast and work eastward. :ph34r:


:mmm:
Title: Re: Iran now has enough uranium to make a nuclear bomb
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 10, 2009, 06:23:36 PM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on June 10, 2009, 09:03:39 AMIt's a little late for non-proliferation,

Nonsense.  Look at South Africa, who unilaterally disarmed their program.  Look at Argentina and Brazil and their bilateral inspections programs, started on their own and continuing without any pressure from the world community.

There's always room for non-proliferation.  And Jello.
Title: Re: Iran now has enough uranium to make a nuclear bomb
Post by: DontSayBanana on June 10, 2009, 06:29:10 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 10, 2009, 06:23:36 PM
There's always room for non-proliferation.  And Jello.

As Winston Zeddemore once said:

"I hate jello."

And people trying to take away excuses for wetworks against obnoxious, aggressive state puppetmasters. :P
Title: Re: Iran now has enough uranium to make a nuclear bomb
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 10, 2009, 06:30:35 PM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on June 10, 2009, 06:29:10 PMAnd people trying to take away excuses for wetworks against obnoxious, aggressive state puppetmasters. :P

FWIW, I classify pre-emptive strikes, covert actions and sanctioned active destablization as forms of non-proliferation.
Title: Re: Iran now has enough uranium to make a nuclear bomb
Post by: DontSayBanana on June 10, 2009, 06:33:26 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 10, 2009, 06:30:35 PM
FWIW, I classify pre-emptive strikes, covert actions and sanctioned active destablization as forms of non-proliferation.

In that case, I'd like to subscribe to the newsletter.