What's so bad about wires, the trend now seems to be wireless almost everywhere ?
From my own point of view, this largely adds another layer of complexity that I'm unlikely to use, so a wireless computer printer is lost on the likes of me.
This made me think about ones use of new vs more mature/obsolete technology, so a few questions:
When did you last use a 'regular' land-line telephone ?
How many time/how often have you used a cellphone/mobile ?
When was the last time you used a fax machine or sent a fax ?
When did you last use a manual or stand alone electronic typewriter ?
Do you still use a film camera, if not when was the last time you had a film processed ?
When did you last print photos on a pc linked printer ?
Do you watch 'terrestrial' television, if not when did you move to cable/digital/on-line viewing ?
Do you own and actively use any form of FM/AM radio ?
If you drive, when was the last time you regularly used a car without electronic engine management ie a regular 'analogue' ignition system like carbs that you could possible maintain/repair yourself ?
When was the last time you played a vinyl record or used a cassette player ?
When did you last play a team sport vs playing a sports game on a console/pc ?
Quote from: mongers on December 01, 2013, 07:26:14 PM
What's so bad about wires, the trend now seems to be wireless almost everywhere ?
They are a pain in the ass, and limit your ability to connect things to a physical medium. That being said, sometimes they are still better than the alternative.
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From my own point of view, this largely adds another layer of complexity that I'm unlikely to use, so a wireless computer printer is lost on the likes of me.
This made me think about ones use of new vs more mature/obsolete technology, so a few questions:
When did you last use a 'regular' land-line telephone ?
Today.
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How many time/how often have you used a cellphone/mobile ?
Constantly.
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When was the last time you used a fax machine or sent a fax ?
Several years.
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When did you last use a manual or stand alone electronic typewriter ?
Decades.
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Do you still use a film camera, if not when was the last time you had a film processed ?
No. A decade, maybe more.
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When did you last print photos on a pc linked printer ?
Never.
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Do you watch 'terrestrial' television, if not when did you move to cable/digital/on-line viewing ?
I bounce between cable and dish every few years.
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Do you own and actively use any form of FM/AM radio ?
Only in my car.
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If you drive, when was the last time you regularly used a car without electronic engine management ie a regular 'analogue' ignition system like carbs that you could possible maintain/repair yourself ?
I don't know, I try not to open the hood if I can avoid it.
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When was the last time you played a vinyl record or used a cassette player ?
20 years?
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When did you last play a team sport vs playing a sports game on a console/pc ?
Last year, hurt my back playing basketball, haven't played since.
Berkut, thanks for the reply, I hadn't expect answers to all questions, in retrospect it looks like I constructed a survey.
Really I'm more interesting in peoples musings on the part modern technology plays in their lives.
Wireless is more convenient (and no tangles). Don't fear progress mongers, it leads to grey hairs.
I fax something once a month or so.
We have a land line.
I use a PC linked printer fairly frequently.
Wireless has some security problems, but it is much easier to use the multitude of devices floating around without running wires all ovr the place.
Quote from: mongers on December 01, 2013, 07:26:14 PM
When did you last use a 'regular' land-line telephone ?
I use one at work all the time. Well, actually, I don't have to use the phone at work all that often, but it is a land-line, and I have to use it a few times a week.
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How many time/how often have you used a cellphone/mobile ?
Several times a day.
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When was the last time you used a fax machine or sent a fax ?
3 or 4 years ago.
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When did you last use a manual or stand alone electronic typewriter ?
Stand-alone electric, maybe 10 years ago. Manual, probably 25 years ago.
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Do you still use a film camera, if not when was the last time you had a film processed ?
Yes, though I almost never actually take any pictures (never have done so).
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When did you last print photos on a pc linked printer ?
Photos, as opposed to documents? Don't think I've ever printed out any.
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Do you watch 'terrestrial' television, if not when did you move to cable/digital/on-line viewing ?
I've never not had cable or satelite since I left home. I think the last year that I lived at home and we didn't have cable was maybe 1973 or so.
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Do you own and actively use any form of FM/AM radio ?
Yes.
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If you drive, when was the last time you regularly used a car without electronic engine management ie a regular 'analogue' ignition system like carbs that you could possible maintain/repair yourself ?
When I blew the engine on my '76 Plymouth, so about 1993.
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When was the last time you played a vinyl record or used a cassette player ?
Vinyl, about a year (the turntable died and I haven't gotten around to replacing it yet, or I'd still be using it regularly. Maybe someone will take a hint and I'll get a new turntable for Christmas). Cassettes I still use occasionally.
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When did you last play a team sport vs playing a sports game on a console/pc ?
Kicked around a soccer ball with family this summer, though I couldn't really say we actually played a match or anything. I've never really played in any organized league except for church-league softball in the early-mid 80s.
Quote from: mongers on December 01, 2013, 07:26:14 PM
What's so bad about wires, the trend now seems to be wireless almost everywhere ?
They're of limited length (usually about a foot too short). They limit the number of ways you can lay out all the peripherals that need to be connected. They become a tangled mess when you use enough of them in the same space. They can be tripped over.
I'm fairly old fashioned it seems.
Quote from: mongers on December 01, 2013, 07:26:14 PM
When did you last use a 'regular' land-line telephone ?
Today.
QuoteHow many time/how often have you used a cellphone/mobile ?
Every day.
QuoteWhen was the last time you used a fax machine or sent a fax ?
18 months ago, when I had one in my office when I had an office when I had a job.
QuoteWhen did you last use a manual or stand alone electronic typewriter ?
This week.
QuoteDo you still use a film camera, if not when was the last time you had a film processed ?
Yes, I have a 35mm Nikon, but haven't had film developed for it in about a year.
QuoteWhen did you last print photos on a pc linked printer ?
I don't think I have.
QuoteDo you watch 'terrestrial' television, if not when did you move to cable/digital/on-line viewing ?
I used all forms of television technology to supplement each other in the glorious cornucopia of modern viewing options.
QuoteDo you own and actively use any form of FM/AM radio ?
Of course, my AM/FM clock radio with optional iPod player, or in my car. How the hell else am I going to listen to the nitwits on sports talk radio bitch, or for traffic in the AM?
QuoteIf you drive, when was the last time you regularly used a car without electronic engine management ie a regular 'analogue' ignition system like carbs that you could possible maintain/repair yourself ?
Not since my '74 Monte Carlo, which died in Luray, Virginia, May of 1992. I miss her dearly. But one day I will get a classic car, come hell or high water. I'm a little behind schedule, but that's why I had skipped the whole wife and kids bit in the first place.
QuoteWhen was the last time you played a vinyl record or used a cassette player ?
Vinyl, a couple weeks ago; a cassette player, I have a couple different models, both regular and micro, but haven't used them in a while.
QuoteWhen did you last play a team sport vs playing a sports game on a console/pc ?
Back when I was young enough to do it, Mongers. My knees are 43 years old too, you know. Silly question.
What's so bad about wires, the trend now seems to be wireless almost everywhere ? Nothing
When did you last use a 'regular' land-line telephone ? Daily. If I could I would get a rotary phone for the house.
How many time/how often have you used a cellphone/mobile ? Only at work
When was the last time you used a fax machine or sent a fax ? Today
When did you last use a manual or stand alone electronic typewriter ? Long time
Do you still use a film camera, if not when was the last time you had a film processed ? No
When did you last print photos on a pc linked printer ? Never
Do you watch 'terrestrial' television, if not when did you move to cable/digital/on-line viewing ? What?
Do you own and actively use any form of FM/AM radio ? Yes
If you drive, when was the last time you regularly used a car without electronic engine management ie a regular 'analogue' ignition system like carbs that you could
possible maintain/repair yourself ? I own two
When was the last time you played a vinyl record or used a cassette player ? Long time
When did you last play a team sport vs playing a sports game on a console/pc ?
I dont play gay "team sports console/pc games.
There is a lot of team sports at my job. ;)
Quote from: mongers on December 01, 2013, 07:26:14 PM
When did you last use a 'regular' land-line telephone ?
Last Tuesday night. That was probably the first time in years though.
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How many time/how often have you used a cellphone/mobile ?
Constantly.
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When was the last time you used a fax machine or sent a fax ?
c. 2008. I do scan documents and email them to myself using an office fax fairly often however.
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When did you last use a manual or stand alone electronic typewriter ?
c. 1992
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Do you still use a film camera, if not when was the last time you had a film processed ?
No. c. 1990.
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When did you last print photos on a pc linked printer ?
About 6 months ago.
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Do you watch 'terrestrial' television, if not when did you move to cable/digital/on-line viewing ?
No. I don't watch TV at all unless you could clips on YouTube.
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Do you own and actively use any form of FM/AM radio ?
In my car, but I mostly listen to satellite radio in the car.
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If you drive, when was the last time you regularly used a car without electronic engine management ie a regular 'analogue' ignition system like carbs that you could possible maintain/repair yourself ?
No clue. Definitely not since 2008.
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When was the last time you played a vinyl record or used a cassette player ?
Vinyl has probably not been since the mid 1980s. My old car had a cassette player I used on occasion... ditched it in 2008.
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When did you last play a team sport vs playing a sports game on a console/pc ?
I'm not a "team player". :P Probably not since high school. Not a huge fan of sports video games, either. Last one I played might have been Joe Montana Football for the Genesis. "It's beginning to... rain. It's beginning to... snow."
Not going to answer them all... just the ones that amuse me.
Faxing is weirdly prevalent in the lawyering business. So I send and receive faxes all the time. The weird thing is that on our end the faxes don't get printed - rather they are converted into PDFs and sent to my email.
As for team sport - I curl every week. :scots:
Faxes are used a shit-tonne in Japan
I still have my old cassettes. Won't throw them away either.
Word processing is an unambiguous improvement over using a typewriter.
Quote from: mongers on December 01, 2013, 07:26:14 PM
When did you last use a 'regular' land-line telephone ?
Can't remember, years ago.
QuoteHow many time/how often have you used a cellphone/mobile ?
Daily.
QuoteWhen was the last time you used a fax machine or sent a fax ?
Never.
QuoteWhen did you last use a manual or stand alone electronic typewriter ?
Never.
QuoteDo you still use a film camera, if not when was the last time you had a film processed ?
No. Don't generally use a camera at all.
QuoteWhen did you last print photos on a pc linked printer ?
Never.
QuoteDo you watch 'terrestrial' television, if not when did you move to cable/digital/on-line viewing ?
Yes. But normally the shows I watch I'll catch up with online.
QuoteDo you own and actively use any form of FM/AM radio ?
No.
QuoteWhen was the last time you played a vinyl record or used a cassette player ?
Years ago. Maybe 10 years ago making mixtapes and when I had a record player.
QuoteWhen did you last play a team sport vs playing a sports game on a console/pc ?
I don't really do either. Unless throwing something in a park counts as a team sport.
Quote from: mongers on December 01, 2013, 07:26:14 PM
When did you last use a 'regular' land-line telephone ?
At work: last week. At home: 2006 or so
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How many time/how often have you used a cellphone/mobile ?
Making a call: every couple of days. Checking email, texting, browsing the internet: daily
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When was the last time you used a fax machine or sent a fax ?
A couple of months ago. I usually end up having to send a couple of faxes a year.
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When did you last use a manual or stand alone electronic typewriter ?
Never
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Do you still use a film camera, if not when was the last time you had a film processed ?
More than a decade ago at least.
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When did you last print photos on a pc linked printer ?
I don't think that I have ever done this.
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Do you watch 'terrestrial' television, if not when did you move to cable/digital/on-line viewing ?
I do watch over-the-air TV sometimes, but I mostly use my television for watching Netflix. I haven't had cable television since 2009.
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Do you own and actively use any form of FM/AM radio ?
I use the FM/AM radio in my car when I drive.
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If you drive, when was the last time you regularly used a car without electronic engine management ie a regular 'analogue' ignition system like carbs that you could possible maintain/repair yourself ?
Never
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When was the last time you played a vinyl record or used a cassette player ?
Vinyl: a few months ago. Cassettes: sometime in the 90s probably
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When did you last play a team sport vs playing a sports game on a console/pc ?
A few months ago. The last sports game that I owned and played was for the original XBox, so at least 5 years ago and probably longer.
you know you have grown old when you start contemplating stuff like this. :P
There will be always aspects of the old that seem advantageous to the new (eg. stone can just be picked up from the ground, while you actually have to make bronze), but when a new solution/technology spreads fast it is for good reason.
Quote from: mongers on December 01, 2013, 07:26:14 PM
When did you last use a 'regular' land-line telephone ?
I still have access to a landline at a family place, I answer more than I make calls from it though.
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How many time/how often have you used a cellphone/mobile ?
Regularly, but more and more for texting.
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When was the last time you used a fax machine or sent a fax ?
Some years ago, and it was a pain to find one at a somewhat acceptable price. Paypal used to require it IIRC
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When did you last use a manual or stand alone electronic typewriter ?
Probably 15-20 years go.
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Do you still use a film camera, if not when was the last time you had a film processed ?
I still have one and had the last film processed some years ago. Right now, no film in the camera.
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When did you last print photos on a pc linked printer ?
5-6 years ago I guess. I don't do it often anyways.
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Do you watch 'terrestrial' television, if not when did you move to cable/digital/on-line viewing ?
There's no more hertzian terrestrial television, only "terrestrial digital" as a minimum. Mostly cable and on-line now. TV in Germany is awful, worse than France which is not great to begin with but has improved a bit lately (dual digital sound FTW). Not that I watch much TV anymore.
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Do you own and actively use any form of FM/AM radio ?
Used to but gave it away. Not that much, unless listening to the radio when waking up or being waken up by it counts. I even remember listening to a Latin SW broadcast when I felt listening to Latin. Plus Some "propaganda" broadcasts as well for shits and giggles
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If you drive, when was the last time you regularly used a car without electronic engine management ie a regular 'analogue' ignition system like carbs that you could possible maintain/repair yourself ?
10-15 years ago but then I don't drive.
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When was the last time you played a vinyl record or used a cassette player ?
The current vinyl craze is hipster-like unless it's for some old recordings with no remastering. So most of classical and recent, properly-produced is out. That leaves most black metal though if not most classic metal.
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When did you last play a team sport vs playing a sports game on a console/pc ?
Kind of an non-sequitur if you ask me, when I played football the most was when I liked the footbal video games the most. Don't play them anymore and sadly, finding players outside of my now faraway friends and time is the main problem. As a kid, there were some free football pitches, now one has to rent by 30 min :(
As for the old tech, I can't say I have any nostalgia for the VHS and I like the region-free capacity of some consoles, mostly Sony after years of trying to restrict it. The geographic restrictions on their stores are a bit stupid but are easily circumvented, at least for now.
Big N has been the worst for that and worsened even more with region-locked 3DS.
Things are a bit better regarding region-locking with Blu-ray compared to DVD as in a lot are region free but the unlocking is a bit more difficult.
As for wireless I don't like it that much, specially in a bed room since these waves are not recommended. I still use it in other places but prefer a wired connection which has better performance anyways.
Hence still a lot of cables, HDMI cables, VGA, Scart (!), power cables plus a Japanese upconverting box for vintage videogaming with modified consoles so cable jungle indeed. The best of both worlds, analogue and digital. With more room I would even get a proper vintage TV i.e a good Trinitron.
I paid for landline service up until 2009. I last used one on Wednesday evening at my mom's step-dad's house in Queens to say I'd made it safely for Thanksgiving. And then again on Thanksgiving, talking to my uncle in Texas.
Faxes, as Barrister says, are in pretty common use at least in criminal law. I use the fax machine at least once a week.
I had a 60s Smith-Corona typewriter for fooling around with as recently as a few years ago, but for real purposes... I used a modern (late 80s) typewriter for filling out forms when I applied to college, and I think also to address some letters at the prison clinic I worked at in law school.
I have plenty of music on vinyl and cassette that I don't have elsewhere, and used to play it quite a lot wherever I had a decent stereo set-up. Cassettes as recently as this year (playing from a boom-box while doing dishes), records maybe 2009 was the last time I had a turntable, amplifier, speakers. Listening to the radio on a real receiver is fun too.
I printed photos to challenge a parking ticket I got in Philadelphia in 2010. And I think I've printed a disposable camera since then.
If Wi-Fi waves are not recommended, then I must say it is too late for us, as radio signals has been around for quite a while. :huh:
Quote from: Tamas on December 02, 2013, 09:56:17 AM
If Wi-Fi waves are not recommended, then I must say it is too late for us, as radio signals has been around for quite a while. :huh:
I don't think anybody's not recommending Wi-Fi waves, Beetle Bailey.
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Quote from: Tamas on December 02, 2013, 09:56:17 AM
If Wi-Fi waves are not recommended, then I must say it is too late for us, as radio signals has been around for quite a while. :huh:
I don't think anybody's not recommending Wi-Fi waves, Beetle Bailey.
Quote from: DuqueAs for wireless I don't like it that much, specially in a bed room since these waves are not recommended.
Helps if you read posts, old man. :P
Quote from: mongers on December 01, 2013, 07:26:14 PM
When did you last use a 'regular' land-line telephone ?
Yesterday to tell a cold-caller to get stuffed. I'm supposed to be ex-directory <_<
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How many time/how often have you used a cellphone/mobile ?
Daily, a good mix of texting/calling/internet.
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When was the last time you used a fax machine or sent a fax ?
To submit invoices last time I was self-employed. 2004?
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When did you last use a manual or stand alone electronic typewriter ?
Prior to having access to PCs and printers. 1985?
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Do you still use a film camera, if not when was the last time you had a film processed ?
I last used a film camera in about 1996. I've had professional prints from digital files within the last couple of years.
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When did you last print photos on a pc linked printer ?
About a month ago.
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Do you watch 'terrestrial' television, if not when did you move to cable/digital/on-line viewing ?
I do most of my viewing through a YouView box. Until recently I would flick to digital TV to access "red button" services and text, but I can get that without switching.
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Do you own and actively use any form of FM/AM radio ?
Yes, I listen to Radio 4 in the car.
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If you drive, when was the last time you regularly used a car without electronic engine management ie a regular 'analogue' ignition system like carbs that you could possible maintain/repair yourself ?
About 1996.
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When was the last time you played a vinyl record or used a cassette player ?
Around 2000.
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When did you last play a team sport vs playing a sports game on a console/pc ?
I've never really done team sports but I'm in a running club.
Quote from: mongers on December 01, 2013, 07:26:14 PM
When did you last use a 'regular' land-line telephone ?
Maybe yesterday. Pretty recently. I still ahve one for giving out to people who don't deserve my cell phone number.
QuoteHow many time/how often have you used a cellphone/mobile ?
All the time.
QuoteWhen was the last time you used a fax machine or sent a fax ?
I had someone fax something for me ~two weeks ago, if that counts.
QuoteWhen did you last use a manual or stand alone electronic typewriter ?
Maybe elementary school. My grandma had (still has) one that I typed creative writing papers on.
QuoteDo you still use a film camera, if not when was the last time you had a film processed ?
No, I have no idea.
QuoteWhen did you last print photos on a pc linked printer ?
See above.
QuoteDo you watch 'terrestrial' television, if not when did you move to cable/digital/on-line viewing ?
No. Call it 15 years, I guess.
QuoteDo you own and actively use any form of FM/AM radio ?
Yeah, I use the one in my car occasionally.
QuoteIf you drive, when was the last time you regularly used a car without electronic engine management ie a regular 'analogue' ignition system like carbs that you could possible maintain/repair yourself ?
Never.
QuoteWhen was the last time you played a vinyl record or used a cassette player ?
Probably 20ish years ago.
QuoteWhen did you last play a team sport vs playing a sports game on a console/pc ?
I dunno, a couple months ago.
What's so bad about wires, the trend now seems to be wireless almost everywhere ? They can be a trip hazard?
From my own point of view, this largely adds another layer of complexity that I'm unlikely to use, so a wireless computer printer is lost on the likes of me. Sometimes, for some things.
This made me think about ones use of new vs more mature/obsolete technology, so a few questions:
When did you last use a 'regular' land-line telephone ? Can't remember, must be some months.
How many time/how often have you used a cellphone/mobile ? Constantly.
When was the last time you used a fax machine or sent a fax ? Few weeks ago at work, but our phone system is VoIP.
When did you last use a manual or stand alone electronic typewriter ? Can't remember, years.
Do you still use a film camera, if not when was the last time you had a film processed ? No. Can't remember, many years.
When did you last print photos on a pc linked printer ? Can't remember, years.
Do you watch 'terrestrial' television, if not when did you move to cable/digital/on-line viewing ? No. @1999.
Do you own and actively use any form of FM/AM radio ? Yes, car radio.
If you drive, when was the last time you regularly used a car without electronic engine management ie a regular 'analogue' ignition system like carbs that you could possible maintain/repair yourself ? Can't remember, maybe in the 80's.
When was the last time you played a vinyl record or used a cassette player ? Can't remember, maybe in the 80's.
When did you last play a team sport vs playing a sports game on a console/pc ? This weekend.
What's so bad about wires, the trend now seems to be wireless almost everywhere?
They can be a pain in the ass sometimes.
When did you last use a 'regular' land-line telephone?
I have one at my desk at work, but I only need it about once a month or so, unless the DSS is bugging me a lot. :P Haven't used it in about two months, though.
How many time/how often have you used a cellphone/mobile?
Every day, as it is my only personal means of voice communication.
When was the last time you used a fax machine or sent a fax?
It has been a while. I think I sent a fax to the Feds late last year.
When did you last use a manual or stand alone electronic typewriter?
High school, about 1997.
Do you still use a film camera, if not when was the last time you had a film processed?
I rarely take photos, but the last time I used film for them was probably about 1998.
When did you last print photos on a pc linked printer?
I don't print my pictures.
Do you watch 'terrestrial' television, if not when did you move to cable/digital/on-line viewing?
We cut the cable earlier this year and have not looked back. We do mix Amazon/Netflix with OTA channels, though.
Do you own and actively use any form of FM/AM radio?
Daily, in the car and on my nightstand.
If you drive, when was the last time you regularly used a car without electronic engine management ie a regular 'analogue' ignition system like carbs that you could possible maintain/repair yourself?
Never, since the oldest car I have ever owned was a '98. I want an old Porsche or F150, though.
When was the last time you played a vinyl record or used a cassette player?
I actually bought a vinyl album a few months ago, but I do not have the turntable set up for lack of space. I haven't used a cassette player except as an auxiliary audio in for my car since high school.
When did you last play a team sport vs playing a sports game on a console/pc?
High school.
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Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 02, 2013, 10:00:24 AM
Quote from: Tamas on December 02, 2013, 09:56:17 AM
If Wi-Fi waves are not recommended, then I must say it is too late for us, as radio signals has been around for quite a while. :huh:
I don't think anybody's not recommending Wi-Fi waves, Beetle Bailey.
Quote from: DuqueAs for wireless I don't like it that much, specially in a bed room since these waves are not recommended.
Helps if you read posts, old man. :P
It's not like the Duque is a Subject Matter Expert on the safety of wireless transmissions. You take everything an Eggplant spits out as authoritative, you filthy fucking gypsy?
The modern age and I have grown apart. Its not the modern age, its me. I dont twitter with excitement at reading what others might be writing in 60 characters or less. I dont follow anyone. My only books are those on the shelf and I dont own one book of faces. I am not linked into anything. I grudgingly used my cell phone which was acquired for me against my will.
I do however, from time to time, play computer games. It was the one and only time I was an early adopter. That of course is what brought me here. I will leave it to you dear reader whether that was the wise path.
My fancy new TV hub device requires a wired Ethernet connection, presumably for reliability, consistency and bandwidth matters.
I'm 29 years old, that should answer most of your questions.
On OTA TV.
For the entirety of my life, except 3 months, my family has been cable subscribers.
Oh and I use a landline at work daily.
Quote from: crazy canuck on December 02, 2013, 02:43:23 PM
The modern age and I have grown apart. Its not the modern age, its me. I dont twitter with excitement at reading what others might be writing in 60 characters or less. I dont follow anyone. My only books are those on the shelf and I dont own one book of faces. I am not linked into anything. I grudgingly used my cell phone which was acquired for me against my will.
I do however, from time to time, play computer games. It was the one and only time I was an early adopter. That of course is what brought me here. I will leave it to you dear reader whether that was the wise path.
I've spoken at great length here regarding the reliability, resiliency and outright necessity of older, low-end "wired" technology from both personal and, more importantly, professional perspectives.
But, since half of Languish is a collection of Millennial Assburgers that can't do shit without texting a twitter to their MyFace pages, and the other half are high priests clothed in the alleged infallibility of the one true church of our time, The IT Dept, I'm just the grumpy old guy that doesn't know what he's talking about.
Everybody enjoy losing all your shit when the weight of our soulless technopoly finally collapses upon itself. 1000110101011000LOL
Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 02, 2013, 09:40:22 PM
I've spoken at great length here regarding the reliability, resiliency and outright necessity of older, low-end "wired" technology from both personal and, more importantly, professional perspectives.
But, since half of Languish is a collection of Millennial Assburgers that can't do shit without texting a twitter to their MyFace pages, and the other half are high priests clothed in the alleged infallibility of the one true church of our time, The IT Dept, I'm just the grumpy old guy that doesn't know what he's talking about.
Everybody enjoy losing all your shit when the weight of our soulless technopoly finally collapses upon itself. 1000110101011000LOL
You can say that about almost every technological advance. Almost all of them add complicated modes of failure that didn't exist before. Hunter-gatherer societies couldn't have a 9/11, because they had neither skyscrapers nor planes. I'd still choose to live in our society. Reliability should be considered, but unless you're talking about a super-critical function, it should be just part of the equation.
DG is still dialing those numbers from the Telefon book.
Fucker probably doesn't even know how to use an abacus.
He can plot a rolling barrage for his Russian masters though.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 02, 2013, 09:55:41 PM
Fucker probably doesn't even know how to use an abacus.
:lmfao: When I was little, everyone in Soviet Union knew how to use an abacus. That was one of the basic life skills. We didn't yet have calculators or electronic registers widely available.
Twitter.... Now despite social media and all that jazz being an area of interest for me I've just never got twitter. I've never saw the point if you're not a celebrity or company.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 02, 2013, 01:13:59 PM
Quote from: Tamas on December 02, 2013, 11:14:42 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 02, 2013, 10:00:24 AM
Quote from: Tamas on December 02, 2013, 09:56:17 AM
If Wi-Fi waves are not recommended, then I must say it is too late for us, as radio signals has been around for quite a while. :huh:
I don't think anybody's not recommending Wi-Fi waves, Beetle Bailey.
Quote from: DuqueAs for wireless I don't like it that much, specially in a bed room since these waves are not recommended. I still use it in other places but prefer a wired connection which has better performance anyways.
Helps if you read posts, old man. :P
It's not like the Duque is a Subject Matter Expert on the safety of wireless transmissions. You take everything an Eggplant spits out as authoritative, you filthy fucking gypsy?
Wow, a bit of selective quoting on Languish! :lol:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_electronic_devices_and_health (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_electronic_devices_and_health)
QuoteIn 2011, International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC), an agency of the World Health Organization, classified wireless radiation as Group 2B - possibly carcinogenic. That means that there "could be some risk" of carcinogenicity, so additional research into the long-term, heavy use of wireless devices needs to be conducted.[5]
Anecdotal evidence I know, but I sleep better without an active Wi-Fi connection the bedroom. Not to mention again a WIRED optical fiber beats the hell out of it performance-wise see ping and lack of lag.
Asbestos as in insulation had also been around for quite a while, guess what happened when the cover-up failed to work. Hopefully, only excess Wi-fi will have to be curtailed.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 02, 2013, 01:13:59 PM
Quote from: Tamas on December 02, 2013, 11:14:42 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 02, 2013, 10:00:24 AM
Quote from: Tamas on December 02, 2013, 09:56:17 AM
If Wi-Fi waves are not recommended, then I must say it is too late for us, as radio signals has been around for quite a while. :huh:
I don't think anybody's not recommending Wi-Fi waves, Beetle Bailey.
Quote from: DuqueAs for wireless I don't like it that much, specially in a bed room since these waves are not recommended.
Helps if you read posts, old man. :P
It's not like the Duque is a Subject Matter Expert on the safety of wireless transmissions. You take everything an Eggplant spits out as authoritative, you filthy fucking gypsy?
That`s what I was telling him, you warmongerworsethanhitler Yankee bastard.
Enjoy walking around in your tinfoil hat, Duck.
Quote from: mongers on December 01, 2013, 07:26:14 PM
When did you last use a 'regular' land-line telephone ?
A few minutes ago. I have one both at home and at my desk at work.
QuoteHow many time/how often have you used a cellphone/mobile ?
A few times a day.
QuoteWhen was the last time you used a fax machine or sent a fax ?
Last month? Pretty recently I still send and receive faxes from time to time.
QuoteWhen did you last use a manual or stand alone electronic typewriter ?
Um...1985?
QuoteDo you still use a film camera, if not when was the last time you had a film processed ?
When I used those one time use camera things at somebody's wedding two years ago. Probably about four years since I had film processed though I have some really old film that needs to be developed so maybe I will again soon.
QuoteWhen did you last print photos on a pc linked printer ?
Print photos? I have Walgreens do that if I need it done.
QuoteDo you watch 'terrestrial' television, if not when did you move to cable/digital/on-line viewing ?
I only had 'terrestrial' TV when I was single at my apartment. All that computer game playing made it a waste of time. I went to cable when I moved in with my future wife in 2008.
QuoteDo you own and actively use any form of FM/AM radio ?
Yes, in my car.
QuoteIf you drive, when was the last time you regularly used a car without electronic engine management ie a regular 'analogue' ignition system like carbs that you could possible maintain/repair yourself ?
When I left my thieving ex back in 2005 I had to take her car since she was not making payments on it and I stupidly signed on the loan. I had to get rid of my beloved old school car and go to one with all the modern shit that makes it completely incomprehensible to me how it works.
QuoteWhen was the last time you played a vinyl record or used a cassette player ?
Um...a few months ago? We have a vinyl record player and I still have cassettes.
QuoteWhen did you last play a team sport vs playing a sports game on a console/pc ?
I don't play sports games. I last played a team sport when I was in my softball league back in 2009, no time with school/work/kids these days.
Quote from: mongers on December 01, 2013, 07:26:14 PM
What's so bad about wires, the trend now seems to be wireless almost everywhere ?
Well, wires are annoying.
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When did you last use a 'regular' land-line telephone ?
Last week-end.
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How many time/how often have you used a cellphone/mobile ?
often.
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When was the last time you used a fax machine or sent a fax ?
Yesterday.
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When did you last use a manual or stand alone electronic typewriter ?
Many years ago.
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Do you still use a film camera, if not when was the last time you had a film processed ?
Many years ago, many more years than the last question :P
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When did you last print photos on a pc linked printer ?
Sometime in the last 2-3 years, as a demonstration of the capacity of a new printer.
QuoteDo you watch 'terrestrial' television, if not when did you move to cable/digital/on-line viewing ?
Cable since c.a. 1986-1988, when our antenna crashed after an ice storm and the costs to have it replaced was insane.
Satellite tv since c.a. 1998, about the time I went alone in an appartment.
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Do you own and actively use any form of FM/AM radio ?
I own but I do not actively use it. The cleaning lady uses it.
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If you drive, when was the last time you regularly used a car without electronic engine management ie a regular 'analogue' ignition system like carbs that you could possible maintain/repair yourself ?
I'm not good at mechanics, so I wouldn't really know... I think the first car I drove had an electronic engine management.
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When was the last time you played a vinyl record or used a cassette player ?
I think I was in high school then :D
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When did you last play a team sport vs playing a sports game on a console/pc ?
many years on both account, I haven't been much in shape for a while, haven't done many team sports, and I hate playing these on PC or consoles.
Quote from: mongers on December 01, 2013, 07:26:14 PM
What's so bad about wires, the trend now seems to be wireless almost everywhere ?
Wires get in the way.
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From my own point of view, this largely adds another layer of complexity that I'm unlikely to use, so a wireless computer printer is lost on the likes of me.
Wireless removes complexity
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This made me think about ones use of new vs more mature/obsolete technology, so a few questions:
When did you last use a 'regular' land-line telephone ?
Probably about 8 years ago
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How many time/how often have you used a cellphone/mobile ?
regularly
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When was the last time you used a fax machine or sent a fax ?
Several years ago. The previous time was several years before that
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When did you last use a manual or stand alone electronic typewriter ?
9th grade?
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Do you still use a film camera, if not when was the last time you had a film processed ?
never
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When did you last print photos on a pc linked printer ?
practically never. I may have done this a time or two on regular printer paper if that counts
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Do you watch 'terrestrial' television, if not when did you move to cable/digital/on-line viewing ?
Not sure what you mean by terrestrial television. I don't think I've ever watched any amount of TV that wasn't cable.
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Do you own and actively use any form of FM/AM radio ?
There's one in the car. I get subjected to it from time to time.
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If you drive, when was the last time you regularly used a car without electronic engine management ie a regular 'analogue' ignition system like carbs that you could possible maintain/repair yourself ?
Probably never
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When was the last time you played a vinyl record or used a cassette player ?
Never
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When did you last play a team sport vs playing a sports game on a console/pc ?
Never for either.
Quote from: Ed Anger on December 02, 2013, 09:53:30 PM
DG is still dialing those numbers from the Telefon book.
:D
:mad:
:face:
When did you last use a 'regular' land-line telephone ? I use my land line as my normal phone.
How many time/how often have you used a cellphone/mobile ? I use cell phones rarely, keeping mine mainly as an extra and for when traveling, away from home.
When was the last time you used a fax machine or sent a fax ? I send faxes in work and have capability to send them from my home computer printer.
When did you last use a manual or stand alone electronic typewriter ? Long ago. Probably in high school learning to type, or in one of my early office jobs.
Do you still use a film camera, if not when was the last time you had a film processed ? I use digital camera now but will use film too. Just don't take many pics anyway.
When did you last print photos on a pc linked printer ? I haven't done that lately but still do, though not often.
Do you watch 'terrestrial' television, if not when did you move to cable/digital/on-line viewing ? I moved to cable a long time ago, probably thirty years ago.
Do you own and actively use any form of FM/AM radio ? I listen to AM radio a lot. In my area AM has news and talk stations. I listen to FM often also. Though I find the I-Pod takes some place from the radio listening.
If you drive, when was the last time you regularly used a car without electronic engine management ie a regular 'analogue' ignition system like carbs that you could possible maintain/repair yourself ? I haven't had a car with points, condenser, distributor cap, etc for many years. I used to do my own tuneups, changing out those parts.
When was the last time you played a vinyl record or used a cassette player ? Long time ago. I only had a few records and gave those away long ago. I probably still have some old records but no player. I do have some cassettes and play them once in a while.
When did you last play a team sport vs playing a sports game on a console/pc ? Probably twenty years ago when I played in a softball league.
Quote from: KRonn on December 04, 2013, 08:18:32 AM
If you drive, when was the last time you regularly used a car without electronic engine management ie a regular 'analogue' ignition system like carbs that you could possible maintain/repair yourself ? I haven't had a car with points, condenser, distributor cap, etc for many years. I used to do my own tuneups, changing out those parts.
Yeah I miss that, plus if you breakdown somewhere ,there's always the possibility of fixing the problem yourself, rather than having to call a tow truck.