QuotePot-smoking Mountie can't smoke publicly in uniform: RCMP
Cpl. Ron Francis legally smokes marijuana daily while on duty to treat post-traumatic stress disorder
By Evan Dyer, CBC News Posted: Nov 28, 2013 5:00 AM ET Last Updated: Nov 28, 2013 11:55 AM ET
A Royal Canadian Mounted Police officer with a medical marijuana prescription thinks he should be able to smoke the drug while in uniform, but the RCMP says he can't smoke marijuana while in red serge or while wearing his regular working uniform.
RCMP Deputy Commissioner Gilles Moreau said any officer with a medical marijuana prescription can take their medication, but should not do so in while in public in their uniform. (CBC)
Cpl. Ronald Francis serves with J Division in New Brunswick, and received a prescription for medical-grade marijuana on Nov. 4.
'There's no policy in the RCMP that prevents me from smoking marijuana. There's no policy in the RCMP that says I cannot smoke in public. I have the right to smoke it in my red serge.'
-Cpl. Ronald Francis
Francis told CBC News marijuana has helped him to calm down and reduces his PTSD symptoms. His prescription allows for three grams a day, which he estimates to be nine to 15 joints, though he said he doesn't typically smoke that much.
"I get up in the morning, have my coffee and the marijuana. I go at lunchtime, have a marijuana joint, and then again in the evening. That would be my medical regime. But that may change with my tolerance to THC. It may take two joints in the morning, I don't know," said Francis.
"I'm just building up my immunity to THC levels, if I was to smoke two I'd probably get stoned to the point that I'm just totally relaxed. I'm still functional. But your nervous system is relaxed, and that makes a big difference," he said.
Cpl. Francis said his choice to switch to medical marijuana was a health decision. (CBC)
Francis, who is currently assigned to administrative duties, said smoking marijuana has no negative effect on his ability to be a police officer and that he intends to continue smoking on the job.
"There's no policy in the RCMP that prevents me from smoking marijuana. There's no policy in the RCMP that says I cannot smoke in public. I have the right to smoke it in my red serge."
RCMP says officers 'should not be in red serge' while smoking marijuana
But while the RCMP accepts that Francis's prescription gives him the right to consume marijuana, the force takes issue with members smoking in public or in uniform.
"Definitely a member that has been prescribed medicinal marijuana should not be in red serge taking his medication," said RCMP Deputy Commissioner Gilles Moreau. "It would not be advisable for that member, it would not portray the right message to the general public, it's definitely not something we would support or condone."
Moreau said the RCMP has a duty to accommodate members' medical needs, but also has to consider the effect on other members and on public perceptions.
"Because this is relatively new for active members of the RCMP, we are looking at the internal policies to see, how do we set it up? To say, OK, if somebody is prescribed medical marijuana and they have to take it two or three times a day and have to take it at work, where is this going to take place? If it takes place outside, it has to respect the individual but also their co-workers, and it has to respect the Canadian population at large by taking it in a respectful way."
The RCMP has the right to challenge medical treatments it considers inappropriate, and to seek a second medical opinion, Moreau said, adding that RCMP will evaluate any member who obtains a medical marijuana prescription.
If they are found to be impaired in judgment or motor skills, the RCMP will place limits on the police functions they're permitted to perform, he said.
Turned to marijuana after trying anti-depressants
Francis said he experienced stress on the job early in his career, while serving the First Nation in Davis Inlet and in his own community of Kingsclear First Nation. He began to seek treatment for mental distress eight years ago.
At first, his doctors prescribed anti-depressants, but he did not feel any significant improvement.
"I started to self-medicate with alcohol. And I said no, this is not me. Why am I doing this? And I was going through treatment for PTSD at the time, and the RCMP did provide treatment, and I thank the RCMP for that."
But Francis began to read about alternative treatments, including marijuana, and he eventually left the doctor he was seeing at the occupational stress injury clinic. He switched to a different doctor, who gave him the marijuana prescription.
"When I explored it as a treatment for my PTSD, I had to really make a moral decision about it. Because the RCMP and law enforcement, they seem so anti-marijuana, and that's a hard thing to overcome, so I had to make that decision for my own health. It wasn't based on my career or anything.
"It was for my own health. In doing that I realized that I have to come first. The organization doesn't come first, Ron Francis comes first. For my own health. And I'm glad I did that," he said.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/pot-smoking-mountie-can-t-smoke-publicly-in-uniform-rcmp-1.2442576
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At first, i thougt he was a veteran...
Is serving in First Nations territory so bad that it causes PTSD?
O Canada :lol:
QuoteFrancis told CBC News marijuana has helped him to calm down and reduces his PTSD symptoms. His prescription allows for three grams a day, which he estimates to be nine to 15 joints, though he said he doesn't typically smoke that much.
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Quote from: Tonitrus on November 28, 2013, 01:47:21 PM
At first, i thougt he was a veteran...
Is serving in First Nations territory so bad that it causes PTSD?
I believe I am going to decline any comment on this story.
I note that the officer claims to have PTSD after serving at his own First Nation.
I wonder why this person isnt on medical leave if a doctor has seen fit to prescribe up to 15 joints a day for him to get through his day.
Either his prescription is bullshit or it isn't.
If it is bullshit, then that should be the focus - his doc is a fraudster, and no doubt, he's in collusion.
If it isn't bullshit, then he's been legitimately prescribed this as a drug for a real medical condition. The issue then is if, while consuming his legitimately prescribed drug, he's fit for duty, like CC said.
If he is, then it seems - why not let him smoke in uniform?
Even if the prescription is legit, why smoke it? Surely he could get his THC dose in another, less conspicuous and much healthier way (say oral or transdermal).
Quote from: Malthus on November 28, 2013, 02:28:43 PM
Either his prescription is bullshit or it isn't.
If it is bullshit, then that should be the focus - his doc is a fraudster, and no doubt, he's in collusion.
I don't know an objective way to measure stress.
Quote from: Iormlund on November 28, 2013, 02:43:02 PM
Even if the prescription is legit, why smoke it? Surely he could get his THC dose in another, less conspicuous and much healthier way (say oral or transdermal).
:zipped:
Well that's a puzzling no comment.
OK, my guess is that the guy would love a nice golden handshake and figures this is his ticket out.
Quote from: Iormlund on November 28, 2013, 02:43:02 PM
Even if the prescription is legit, why smoke it? Surely he could get his THC dose in another, less conspicuous and much healthier way (say oral or transdermal).
My understanding is that it is not legal to obtain medical pot in other forms. I posted about how stupid this was in another thread.
Quote from: crazy canuck on November 28, 2013, 03:14:06 PM
Quote from: Iormlund on November 28, 2013, 02:43:02 PM
Even if the prescription is legit, why smoke it? Surely he could get his THC dose in another, less conspicuous and much healthier way (say oral or transdermal).
My understanding is that it is not legal to obtain medical pot in other forms. I posted about how stupid this was in another thread.
Could he bake his legally obtained pot into brownies or something himself?
Quote from: sbr on November 28, 2013, 03:16:17 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on November 28, 2013, 03:14:06 PM
Quote from: Iormlund on November 28, 2013, 02:43:02 PM
Even if the prescription is legit, why smoke it? Surely he could get his THC dose in another, less conspicuous and much healthier way (say oral or transdermal).
My understanding is that it is not legal to obtain medical pot in other forms. I posted about how stupid this was in another thread.
Could he bake his legally obtained pot into brownies or something himself?
No, iirc the kind of pot that is now legal for medical use is the dried leaves which apparently can only be smoked to obtain the medical benefit. Advocates have been lobbying to also allow for the use of non dried product so that it can be used for the purpose of baking into something which is edible - cookies or brownies work. The reason being of course, that for people with lung problems smoking the stuff is highly problematic.
Another benefit would be for guys like this who would just be seen to really like brownies at work.
Quote from: crazy canuck on November 28, 2013, 03:22:15 PM
Quote from: sbr on November 28, 2013, 03:16:17 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on November 28, 2013, 03:14:06 PM
Quote from: Iormlund on November 28, 2013, 02:43:02 PM
Even if the prescription is legit, why smoke it? Surely he could get his THC dose in another, less conspicuous and much healthier way (say oral or transdermal).
My understanding is that it is not legal to obtain medical pot in other forms. I posted about how stupid this was in another thread.
Could he bake his legally obtained pot into brownies or something himself?
No, iirc the kind of pot that is now legal for medical use is the dried leaves which apparently can only be smoked to obtain the medical benefit. Advocates have been lobbying to also allow the for the use of non dried product so that it can be used for the purpose of baking into something which is edible - cookies or brownies work. The reason being of course, that for people with lung problems smoking the stuff is highly problematic.
Another benefit would be for guys like this who would just be seen to really like brownies at work.
That doesn't answer Iorm's question though as to why the guy just doesn't take THC pills or injections.
Am i right? Am i right? If I'm right, just sniff twice into the phone.
Quote from: Barrister on November 28, 2013, 03:23:48 PM
That doesn't answer Iorm's question though as to why the guy just doesn't take THC pills or injections.
How many injections would he have to take in a day? What are the potential adverse reactions from injecting oneself so many times?
Is there such a thing as "THC pills"? I dont think so. If there were that would solve a lot of problems around the issue of the government only allowing pot in dried form atm.
Lastly, if you are in agreement that "THC pills" are ok. Why not THC brownies?
Quote from: crazy canuck on November 28, 2013, 03:27:34 PM
Quote from: Barrister on November 28, 2013, 03:23:48 PM
That doesn't answer Iorm's question though as to why the guy just doesn't take THC pills or injections.
How many injections would he have to take in a day? What are the potential adverse reactions from injecting oneself so many times?
Is there such a thing as "THC pills"? I dont think so. If there were that would solve a lot of problems around the issue of the government only allowing pot in dried form atm.
Lastly, if you are in agreement that "THC pills" are ok. Why not THC brownies?
I was trying to find the SCC case that ordered the government to make medical marijuana available, but haven't found it yet.
If I recall correctly, THC pills have long been available, but the medical marijuana activists always claimed it didn't work the same way.
And I guess that the Feds don't want anything but dried marijuana because they don't want anything being sold that could be planted / regrown.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on November 28, 2013, 03:24:35 PM
Am i right? Am i right? If I'm right, just sniff twice into the phone.
My guess is this guy would love to just sit and home and be on disability, but the force would like to see the guy just quit. So instead its War of the Roses time forcing him to work desk duties.
All he has to do is join some religion where pot smoking is promoted, then he can lobby the RCMP for religious accomodation, wich as a tolerant society we can not refuse. If we're going to accept police officers with veils, than why not pot smoker cops?
Quote from: viper37 on November 28, 2013, 03:42:16 PM
All he has to do is join some religion where pot smoking is promoted, then he can lobby the RCMP for religious accomodation, wich as a tolerant society we can not refuse. If we're going to accept police officers with veils, than why not pot smoker cops?
We don't accept police officers with veils. :mellow:
Did we give up when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!
Quote from: Iormlund on November 28, 2013, 02:43:02 PM
Even if the prescription is legit, why smoke it? Surely he could get his THC dose in another, less conspicuous and much healthier way (say oral or transdermal).
Allegedly, it has a different mechanism of action when smoked. I have no idea if this is actually true or not.
Quote from: Barrister on November 28, 2013, 03:31:23 PM
And I guess that the Feds don't want anything but dried marijuana because they don't want anything being sold that could be planted / regrown.
I think your assumption is correct. But given the ubiquity of the stuff, its a pretty weak argument.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on November 28, 2013, 02:48:09 PM
Quote from: Malthus on November 28, 2013, 02:28:43 PM
Either his prescription is bullshit or it isn't.
If it is bullshit, then that should be the focus - his doc is a fraudster, and no doubt, he's in collusion.
I don't know an objective way to measure stress.
My point is that there is no halfway house. Either this is a legitimate prescription in response to a legitimate medical condition, or it is not. If it is, then assuming he's actually fit for duty when taking this stuff, I don't see why he can't.
If it isn't, of course, that's another story; ditto the legitimacy of him going on medical leave if he can't do his duties when taking his medicine.
In short, it should be treated exactly the same as any other medicine and health/disability claim. It is often difficult to tell who is scamming (look at all those 'bad backs' who are mysteriously well enough to go waterskiing, but not well enough to move boxes at work).
I understand that part of the argument Malthus. My point is there is no way for a third party to determine the legitimacy of the treatment.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on November 28, 2013, 04:12:39 PM
I understand that part of the argument Malthus. My point is there is no way for a third party to determine the legitimacy of the treatment.
Not being a doc, I have no idea whether this is true or not. If you are right, insurers are in for a rough ride, once people start "un-disproveably" claiming disability on this basis, and settling down to a life of smoking dope on their dime.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on November 28, 2013, 04:12:39 PM
I understand that part of the argument Malthus. My point is there is no way for a third party to determine the legitimacy of the treatment.
I am not sure why the efficacious effects of this drug cannot be tested the same way all other drugs are tested.
Quote from: Barrister on November 28, 2013, 03:47:00 PM
Quote from: viper37 on November 28, 2013, 03:42:16 PM
All he has to do is join some religion where pot smoking is promoted, then he can lobby the RCMP for religious accomodation, wich as a tolerant society we can not refuse. If we're going to accept police officers with veils, than why not pot smoker cops?
We don't accept police officers with veils. :mellow:
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/11/25/edmonton-police-hijab_n_4338342.html
Quote from: viper37 on November 28, 2013, 06:02:57 PM
Quote from: Barrister on November 28, 2013, 03:47:00 PM
Quote from: viper37 on November 28, 2013, 03:42:16 PM
All he has to do is join some religion where pot smoking is promoted, then he can lobby the RCMP for religious accomodation, wich as a tolerant society we can not refuse. If we're going to accept police officers with veils, than why not pot smoker cops?
We don't accept police officers with veils. :mellow:
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/11/25/edmonton-police-hijab_n_4338342.html
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.huffpost.com%2Fgen%2F1481506%2Fthumbs%2Fn-BLACK-HIJAB-large570.jpg%3F15&hash=2c96c48c67ef664eae65863e3c7e482148f25bf2)
This woman's face isn't veiled. :mellow:
Quote from: Malthus on November 28, 2013, 04:17:09 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on November 28, 2013, 04:12:39 PM
I understand that part of the argument Malthus. My point is there is no way for a third party to determine the legitimacy of the treatment.
Not being a doc, I have no idea whether this is true or not. If you are right, insurers are in for a rough ride, once people start "un-disproveably" claiming disability on this basis, and settling down to a life of smoking dope on their dime.
that would be the same as burn out or other mental diseases, they are hard to prove or disprove. I guess they require more than one exam before granting benefits.
I've successfully used dry mint leaves (the kind you get at the grocery store) in brownie recipes before, dunno why you couldn't do that with dried pot leaves.
Quote from: Tonitrus on November 28, 2013, 06:37:25 PM
I've successfully used dry mint leaves (the kind you get at the grocery store) in brownie recipes before, dunno why you couldn't do that with dried pot leaves.
Its not about the taste ;) and I am pretty sure your dry mint leaves also had a low THC content after being baked...
Do they let cops get medicinally drunk on the job?
Quote from: crazy canuck on November 28, 2013, 03:27:34 PM
Quote from: Barrister on November 28, 2013, 03:23:48 PM
That doesn't answer Iorm's question though as to why the guy just doesn't take THC pills or injections.
How many injections would he have to take in a day? What are the potential adverse reactions from injecting oneself so many times?
Is there such a thing as "THC pills"? I dont think so. If there were that would solve a lot of problems around the issue of the government only allowing pot in dried form atm.
Lastly, if you are in agreement that "THC pills" are ok. Why not THC brownies?
They gave me an artificial THC pill in the hospital back in 2002 for chemo induced naseau. Sent me over the Moon and I hated every minute of it. Only took it that one time. Why couldn't they make a real THC pill?
Quote from: Barrister on November 28, 2013, 03:31:23 PM
If I recall correctly, THC pills have long been available, but the medical marijuana activists always claimed it didn't work the same way.
Yes, an alternative like Marinol has been around for ages, but nobody likes the side effects--namely, it doesn't get you stoned out of your gourd like a Jamaican musician.
That's why the "medical marijuana" people are so full of shit. They're not about THC, they're about sucking on honey bear bongs. Bullshit hippie fucktards.
You realize, seeds, that you are on the losing end of that fight.
And rightfully so.
People should get to decide if they want to get high. The state should only object if they are undertaking activities where this would affect others (second hand smoke) or pose a safety hazard (driving, carrying a gun, handling dangerous machinery, etc).
Quote from: Iormlund on November 29, 2013, 09:06:34 AM
And rightfully so.
People should get to decide if they want to get high. The state should only object if they are undertaking activities where this would affect others (second hand smoke) or pose a safety hazard (driving, carrying a gun, handling dangerous machinery, etc).
Then Medical MaryJane activists should be honest about what they're actually after.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 29, 2013, 05:34:23 AM
They gave me an artificial THC pill in the hospital back in 2002
Yeah, like I thought, there is no such thing as a THC pill.
Quote from: Neil on November 28, 2013, 08:46:13 PM
Do they let cops get medicinally drunk on the job?
Do doctors in your neck of the woods prescribe a lot of whiskey?
Whiskey is a fine medicine :angry:
Quote from: derspiess on November 29, 2013, 09:43:44 AM
Whiskey is a fine medicine :angry:
Concur. I can't seem to find a sawbones who'll prescribe it for me though :(
The only thing odd is that the organization's drug and alcohol policy lets people work while on drugs.
Quote from: fhdz on November 29, 2013, 09:53:52 AM
Quote from: derspiess on November 29, 2013, 09:43:44 AM
Whiskey is a fine medicine :angry:
Concur. I can't seem to find a sawbones who'll prescribe it for me though :(
I know a guy.
Quote from: derspiess on November 29, 2013, 09:33:32 AM
Quote from: Iormlund on November 29, 2013, 09:06:34 AM
And rightfully so.
People should get to decide if they want to get high. The state should only object if they are undertaking activities where this would affect others (second hand smoke) or pose a safety hazard (driving, carrying a gun, handling dangerous machinery, etc).
Then Medical MaryJane activists should be honest about what they're actually after.
They can start by removing "Medical" from "Medical Marijuana", because they really don't give two shits about it.
They're just interested in legalizing marijuana, which is no big deal, but at least be honest about your agenda: getting stoned.
Update:
QuoteUPDATED
Cpl. Ron Francis turns over RCMP dress uniform
WARNING: Video contains graphic language
CBC News Posted: Nov 29, 2013 10:43 AM AT Last Updated: Nov 29, 2013 1:38 PM AT
The New Brunswick Mountie at the centre of a debate about smoking medicinal marijuana while wearing his police uniform turned over his formal RCMP red serge Friday.
Cpl. Ron Francis arrived at J Division headquarters in Fredericton as promised to hand over his dress uniform at noon.
Cpl. Ron Francis hands over his RCMP dress uniform Friday at J Division headquarters in Fredericton. (CBC)
RCMP officers had seized Francis's other uniforms and related apparel at his home Thursday night. Francis did not have his dress uniform at his home and said he would turn it over over Friday.
Francis was ordered to turn the items in after he was photographed and videoed smoking marijuana in his uniform.
Francis held an eagle feather in one hand throughout his visit to headquarters. Before handing over his dress uniform, Francis removed his medal for 20 years of exemplary service to the RCMP with shaking hands.
"It's my medal," a sobbing Francis said to reporters minutes later.
"They can have their uniform. This is my medal," he said.
"I earned this. I earned it with my blood, my sweat, my tears.
"I have not one flaw on my service record," said Francis. "My only flaw is I stuck up for the Canadian people.
"And I'd stick up for this country because the government doesn't do anything for them."
The 21-year veteran of the RCMP has a prescription for medical marijuana to deal with the post-traumatic stress disorder that he says is a result of his work. Francis believes he should be able to smoke medicinal marijuana while in uniform.
Francis still has his RCMP badge and remains a Mountie, but is on medical leave.
He was upset when fellow RCMP officers arrived at his home Thursday evening to collect his uniforms and gear.
The scene was captured on video by his cousin, and Francis provided a copy of it to CBC News. It contains strong language.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/cpl-ron-francis-turns-over-rcmp-dress-uniform-1.2444935
What a baby.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on November 29, 2013, 10:52:18 AM
Quote from: derspiess on November 29, 2013, 09:33:32 AM
Quote from: Iormlund on November 29, 2013, 09:06:34 AM
And rightfully so.
People should get to decide if they want to get high. The state should only object if they are undertaking activities where this would affect others (second hand smoke) or pose a safety hazard (driving, carrying a gun, handling dangerous machinery, etc).
Then Medical MaryJane activists should be honest about what they're actually after.
They can start by removing "Medical" from "Medical Marijuana", because they really don't give two shits about it.
They're just interested in legalizing marijuana, which is no big deal, but at least be honest about your agenda: getting stoned.
I guess that would be a smart thing to do if you didn't want your agenda to pass. In reality though to trick/neutralize blue hairs like you and Der, need to use a little subterfuge.
Heh. Hear that, Seedy? He called us "blue hairs".
It is normal to seize a Mountie's uniforms if he goes on medical leave?
Quote from: dps on November 29, 2013, 04:37:32 PM
It is normal to seize a Mountie's uniforms if he goes on medical leave?
Very little about this story is normal.
I sense extreme positions being taken by both parties. A pox on both of them.
Quote from: derspiess on November 29, 2013, 03:40:13 PM
Heh. Hear that, Seedy? He called us "blue hairs".
Too funny.
I'm all for decriminalizing marijuana, just don't see how exploiting the sick and infirm helps.
Garbon's company must not manufacture THC alternatives, or he wouldn't be such a cunt about it.
My company doesn't manufacture a thing. :huh:
Exploiting the sick and infirm? :unsure:
Quote from: Admiral Yi on November 29, 2013, 07:11:19 PM
Exploiting the sick and infirm? :unsure:
Pretending to be concerned about medical issues when really they just want to get buzzed.
It's not like their exploitation of the sick and infirm hurts anyone though.
Quote from: Neil on November 29, 2013, 08:14:25 PM
It's not like their exploitation of the sick and infirm hurts anyone though.
Yeah, I wouldn't have used CdM's term here for that reason. The sick and infirm aren't actually being taken advantage of. It's more of an appeal to emotion rather than reason, sort of like, "Think of the children".
fyi, a constitutional challenge was filed on Friday regarding the restrictions in the new medical pot regulations. Part of what is being challenged is that it is now only legal to obtain the drug in dried form which will require smoking rather than other delivery methods.
Quote from: crazy canuck on December 02, 2013, 02:34:09 PM
fyi, a constitutional challenge was filed on Friday regarding the restrictions in the new medical pot regulations. Part of what is being challenged is that it is now only legal to obtain the drug in dried form which will require smoking rather than other delivery methods.
Heh, I sat in on a meeting with a senior partner I often work with and a business group wanting to get a licence and start in this area. The partner's assessment was brutal but I think accurate: you have to have very deep pockets already to even dream of starting up in this area. The federal 'crats hate hate hate this new system, they coinsider most applicants for licences who are not already established pharma companies scumbags, and you can expect (a) few licences will be granted to anyone not already established, (b) to get one you will have to prove you have all sorts of expensive anti-diversion systems in place that generally only the established players can afford, (c) you will be inspected and audited frequently, and (d) the slightest hint of diversion and your licence will be revoked, with criminal charges all around as an appetizer.
I think that is a very accurate assessment. It is also at the heart of this challenge - very few entities will be licenced to grow and distribute the pot driving up cost and creating an unacceptable shortfall in product which will cause those in the position of the nominee plaintiffs to have to violate the law to grow their own or have loved ones grow on their behalf.
My own view is that the law will be stuck as a pretty obvious attempt to make access to medical pot unworkable.
However, on my last trip to California I saw the other extreme where there was a store front every 100 meters or so advertising a medical pot consultation to see if you qualified for a presecription which they were fully able to prescribe and supply on the spot.
Some balance will have to be struck and it will be interesting to see where the court strikes it.
Quote from: crazy canuck on December 02, 2013, 03:51:48 PM
However, on my last trip to California I saw the other extreme where there was a store front every 100 meters or so advertising a medical pot consultation to see if you qualified for a presecription which they were fully able to prescribe and supply on the spot.
Where was this?
Quote from: garbon on December 02, 2013, 03:57:47 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on December 02, 2013, 03:51:48 PM
However, on my last trip to California I saw the other extreme where there was a store front every 100 meters or so advertising a medical pot consultation to see if you qualified for a presecription which they were fully able to prescribe and supply on the spot.
Where was this?
Losing touch with the old country? :(
Quote from: The Brain on December 02, 2013, 04:04:39 PM
Quote from: garbon on December 02, 2013, 03:57:47 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on December 02, 2013, 03:51:48 PM
However, on my last trip to California I saw the other extreme where there was a store front every 100 meters or so advertising a medical pot consultation to see if you qualified for a presecription which they were fully able to prescribe and supply on the spot.
Where was this?
Losing touch with the old country? :(
I'm there several times a year. :hug:
Quote from: garbon on December 02, 2013, 03:57:47 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on December 02, 2013, 03:51:48 PM
However, on my last trip to California I saw the other extreme where there was a store front every 100 meters or so advertising a medical pot consultation to see if you qualified for a presecription which they were fully able to prescribe and supply on the spot.
Where was this?
I was staying in Marina Del Rey. Walking along new upscale shopping and restaurant in the Abbot Kinney area there were pot shops in every block (on both sides of the street). They were even more concentrated on the walk along Venice Beach up to Santa Monica. The funny part was nearer to Marina Del Rey the consultations cost 40 bucks. As one got closer to Muscle Beach the price dropped to 20 bucks.