RCMP Corporal thinks he should be allowed to smoke pot while in uniform

[Barrister]

Pot-smoking Mountie can't smoke publicly in uniform: RCMP
Cpl. Ron Francis legally smokes marijuana daily while on duty to treat post-traumatic stress disorder
By Evan Dyer, CBC News Posted: Nov 28, 2013 5:00 AM ET Last Updated: Nov 28, 2013 11:55 AM ET

A Royal Canadian Mounted Police officer with a medical marijuana prescription thinks he should be able to smoke the drug while in uniform, but the RCMP says he can't smoke marijuana while in red serge or while wearing his regular working uniform.

RCMP Deputy Commissioner Gilles Moreau said any officer with a medical marijuana prescription can take their medication, but should not do so in while in public in their uniform. (CBC)

Cpl. Ronald Francis serves with J Division in New Brunswick, and received a prescription for medical-grade marijuana on Nov. 4.

'There's no policy in the RCMP that prevents me from smoking marijuana. There's no policy in the RCMP that says I cannot smoke in public. I have the right to smoke it in my red serge.'
-Cpl. Ronald Francis
Francis told CBC News marijuana has helped him to calm down and reduces his PTSD symptoms. His prescription allows for three grams a day, which he estimates to be nine to 15 joints, though he said he doesn't typically smoke that much.

"I get up in the morning, have my coffee and the marijuana. I go at lunchtime, have a marijuana joint, and then again in the evening. That would be my medical regime. But that may change with my tolerance to THC. It may take two joints in the morning, I don't know," said Francis.

"I'm just building up my immunity to THC levels, if I was to smoke two I'd probably get stoned to the point that I'm just totally relaxed. I'm still functional. But your nervous system is relaxed, and that makes a big difference," he said.

Cpl. Francis said his choice to switch to medical marijuana was a health decision. (CBC)

Francis, who is currently assigned to administrative duties, said smoking marijuana has no negative effect on his ability to be a police officer and that he intends to continue smoking on the job.

"There's no policy in the RCMP that prevents me from smoking marijuana. There's no policy in the RCMP that says I cannot smoke in public. I have the right to smoke it in my red serge."

RCMP says officers 'should not be in red serge' while smoking marijuana

But while the RCMP accepts that Francis's prescription gives him the right to consume marijuana, the force takes issue with members smoking in public or in uniform.

"Definitely a member that has been prescribed medicinal marijuana should not be in red serge taking his medication," said RCMP Deputy Commissioner Gilles Moreau. "It would not be advisable for that member, it would not portray the right message to the general public, it's definitely not something we would support or condone."

Moreau said the RCMP has a duty to accommodate members' medical needs, but also has to consider the effect on other members and on public perceptions.

"Because this is relatively new for active members of the RCMP, we are looking at the internal policies to see, how do we set it up? To say, OK, if somebody is prescribed medical marijuana and they have to take it two or three times a day and have to take it at work, where is this going to take place? If it takes place outside, it has to respect the individual but also their co-workers, and it has to respect the Canadian population at large by taking it in a respectful way."

The RCMP has the right to challenge medical treatments it considers inappropriate, and to seek a second medical opinion, Moreau said, adding that RCMP will evaluate any member who obtains a medical marijuana prescription.

If they are found to be impaired in judgment or motor skills, the RCMP will place limits on the police functions they're permitted to perform, he said.

Turned to marijuana after trying anti-depressants

Francis said he experienced stress on the job early in his career, while serving the First Nation in Davis Inlet and in his own community of Kingsclear First Nation. He began to seek treatment for mental distress eight years ago.

At first, his doctors prescribed anti-depressants, but he did not feel any significant improvement.

"I started to self-medicate with alcohol. And I said no, this is not me. Why am I doing this? And I was going through treatment for PTSD at the time, and the RCMP did provide treatment, and I thank the RCMP for that."

But Francis began to read about alternative treatments, including marijuana, and he eventually left the doctor he was seeing at the occupational stress injury clinic. He switched to a different doctor, who gave him the marijuana prescription.

"When I explored it as a treatment for my PTSD, I had to really make a moral decision about it. Because the RCMP and law enforcement, they seem so anti-marijuana, and that's a hard thing to overcome, so I had to make that decision for my own health. It wasn't based on my career or anything.

"It was for my own health. In doing that I realized that I have to come first. The organization doesn't come first, Ron Francis comes first. For my own health. And I'm glad I did that," he said.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/pot-smoking-mountie-can-t-smoke-publicly-in-uniform-rcmp-1.2442576

[Tonitrus]

At first, i thougt he was a veteran...

Is serving in First Nations territory so bad that it causes PTSD?

[Admiral Yi]

O Canada 

Francis told CBC News marijuana has helped him to calm down and reduces his PTSD symptoms. His prescription allows for three grams a day, which he estimates to be nine to 15 joints, though he said he doesn't typically smoke that much.

[Barrister]

At first, i thougt he was a veteran...

Is serving in First Nations territory so bad that it causes PTSD?

I believe I am going to decline any comment on this story.

I note that the officer claims to have PTSD after serving at his own First Nation.

[crazy canuck]

I wonder why this person isnt on medical leave if a doctor has seen fit to prescribe up to 15 joints a day for him to get through his day.

[Malthus]

Either his prescription is bullshit or it isn't.

If it is bullshit, then that should be the focus - his doc is a fraudster, and no doubt, he's in collusion.

If it isn't bullshit, then he's been legitimately prescribed this as a drug for a real medical condition. The issue then is if, while consuming his legitimately prescribed drug, he's fit for duty, like CC said.

If he is, then it seems - why not let him smoke in uniform?

[Iormlund]

Even if the prescription is legit, why smoke it? Surely he could get his THC dose in another, less conspicuous and much healthier way (say oral or transdermal).

[Admiral Yi]

Either his prescription is bullshit or it isn't.

If it is bullshit, then that should be the focus - his doc is a fraudster, and no doubt, he's in collusion.

I don't know an objective way to measure stress.

[Barrister]

Even if the prescription is legit, why smoke it? Surely he could get his THC dose in another, less conspicuous and much healthier way (say oral or transdermal).

[Admiral Yi]

Well that's a puzzling no comment.

[Admiral Yi]

OK, my guess is that the guy would love a nice golden handshake and figures this is his ticket out.

[crazy canuck]

Even if the prescription is legit, why smoke it? Surely he could get his THC dose in another, less conspicuous and much healthier way (say oral or transdermal).

My understanding is that it is not legal to obtain medical pot in other forms.  I posted about how stupid this was in another thread.

[sbr]

Even if the prescription is legit, why smoke it? Surely he could get his THC dose in another, less conspicuous and much healthier way (say oral or transdermal).

My understanding is that it is not legal to obtain medical pot in other forms.  I posted about how stupid this was in another thread.

Could he bake his legally obtained pot into brownies or something himself?

[crazy canuck]

Even if the prescription is legit, why smoke it? Surely he could get his THC dose in another, less conspicuous and much healthier way (say oral or transdermal).

My understanding is that it is not legal to obtain medical pot in other forms.  I posted about how stupid this was in another thread.

Could he bake his legally obtained pot into brownies or something himself?

No, iirc the kind of pot that is now legal for medical use is the dried leaves which apparently can only be smoked to obtain the medical benefit.  Advocates have been lobbying to also allow for the use of non dried product so that it can be used for the purpose of baking into something which is edible - cookies or brownies work.  The reason being of course, that for people with lung problems smoking the stuff is highly problematic.


Another benefit would be for guys like this who would just be seen to really like brownies at work.

[Barrister]

Even if the prescription is legit, why smoke it? Surely he could get his THC dose in another, less conspicuous and much healthier way (say oral or transdermal).

My understanding is that it is not legal to obtain medical pot in other forms.  I posted about how stupid this was in another thread.

Could he bake his legally obtained pot into brownies or something himself?

No, iirc the kind of pot that is now legal for medical use is the dried leaves which apparently can only be smoked to obtain the medical benefit.  Advocates have been lobbying to also allow the for the use of non dried product so that it can be used for the purpose of baking into something which is edible - cookies or brownies work.  The reason being of course, that for people with lung problems smoking the stuff is highly problematic.


Another benefit would be for guys like this who would just be seen to really like brownies at work.

That doesn't answer Iorm's question though as to why the guy just doesn't take THC pills or injections.