HBO gives you a Rome/Band of Brothers sized budget and your choice of book or what have you to make a TV series from, what do you chose?
Sadly, most of what I'd want would probably be unfilmable even with that budget.
I think maybe the Battle of Chosin Reservoir would be a good choice.
Why a legal drama set in the Canadian north, of course. :cool:
Quote from: Barrister on July 12, 2013, 10:54:26 AM
Why a legal drama set in the Canadian north, of course. :cool:
With a $100 million budget? :unsure:
My show would be call "The Surge", and in 10 one-hour episodes would cover the surge in Iraq from March 2007 to March 2008.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 12, 2013, 10:56:13 AM
Quote from: Barrister on July 12, 2013, 10:54:26 AM
Why a legal drama set in the Canadian north, of course. :cool:
With a $100 million budget? :unsure:
Doing 30 seconds of googling, typical HBO shows start t at $1-$2 mil per episode, so that's 13-$26 mil for season one.
But once it gets popular (which it inevitably would) the cost of your stars goes way up so we can start approaching $100 mil per season.
Plus, all that on-location work doesn't come cheap. There aren't a lot of pre-existing soundstages in Grise Fjord, for example.
How many ways Timmay could die in various industrial accidents.
Dreadnoughts.
Quote from: Siege on July 12, 2013, 10:57:09 AM
My show would be call "The Surge", and in 10 one-hour episodes would cover the surge in Iraq from March 2007 to March 2008.
Wasn't that Generation Kill? Or was that pre-Surge?
Edit: Never mind, I think that was the initial invasion.
Gosh...I don't know...can't think of anything I love that deserves a glorious multiple season drama filled with blood, gore, sex and general antics.
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Oh right :menace:
Quote from: Barrister on July 12, 2013, 11:00:01 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 12, 2013, 10:56:13 AM
Quote from: Barrister on July 12, 2013, 10:54:26 AM
Why a legal drama set in the Canadian north, of course. :cool:
With a $100 million budget? :unsure:
Doing 30 seconds of googling, typical HBO shows start t at $1-$2 mil per episode, so that's 13-$26 mil for season one.
I did say a Rome/Band of Brothers type budget.
Quote from: Neil on July 12, 2013, 11:01:36 AM
Dreadnoughts.
That would be cool.
I'll watch it.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 12, 2013, 11:07:03 AM
Quote from: Barrister on July 12, 2013, 11:00:01 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 12, 2013, 10:56:13 AM
Quote from: Barrister on July 12, 2013, 10:54:26 AM
Why a legal drama set in the Canadian north, of course. :cool:
With a $100 million budget? :unsure:
Doing 30 seconds of googling, typical HBO shows start t at $1-$2 mil per episode, so that's 13-$26 mil for season one.
I did say a Rome/Band of Brothers type budget.
Well, screw you.
I have precisely one (1) idea for a high-quality cable series. This is it.
It would be Law and Order meets Northern Exposure meets Sopranos. The basic structure of the show would, at least at first, be your typical Crime of the Week drama. Open with a dead body out on the tundra, your plucky RCMP officer quickly makes an arrest, then your rumpled but handsome Crown Prosecutor has to prosecute despite an overworked defence counsel, a bored (and possibly drunk) judge, and the hesitance of witnesses to be seen co-operating with outsiders.
Setting it in the north allows you to have a core cast who then goes out 'on circuit' and can interact in various different towns.
Being on cable though allows you to move beyond just the 'Law and Order: NWT' premise. You spend more time on the characters. They're all in the north for a variety of different motivations, looking to fill various personal needs. Once the show gets established you can have different show structures - instead of straight legal drama you have an episode where the court party is trapped in a mid-January blizzard coming off Hudson's Bay and are stuck in an incredibly tiny hotel for days on end. In addition to the 'crime of the week' you probably also have an overarching mega crime that unifies the entire season (until it's resolution in the season finale).
I'm not a writer of any particular note, so I couldn't exactly be writing up scripts for this, but that's my one (1) idea.
Rumpled?
Law & Order: Special Pleated Khakis Unit
Quote from: Neil on July 12, 2013, 11:24:55 AM
Rumpled?
I first wrote "dashing and handsome", but changed it because I didn't want it to be too autobiographical. -_-
The Forever War. Or World War Z - the book.
Quote from: Neil on July 12, 2013, 11:01:36 AM
Dreadnoughts.
I would love to do a movie in Jutland, or a series on the entire naval war.
Herod
Dune
A frontier town in South Dakota, with the prospect of statehood quickly approaching, enlivened by great character actors portraying rival saloon keepers, Jew hardware store owners, gold-hearted whores, banditos, wealthy laudanum addicts, and a Canadian would-be sheriff.
This one is easy, and would be a big hit, but would probably require a larger budget.
The complete Patrick O'Brian series.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/039306011X
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on July 12, 2013, 11:52:20 AM
A frontier town in South Dakota, with the prospect of statehood quickly approaching, enlivened by great character actors portraying rival saloon keepers, Jew hardware store owners, gold-hearted whores, banditos, wealthy laudanum addicts, and a Canadian would-be sheriff.
Sounds good, but they should make the sheriff from Kentucky.
Quote from: crazy canuck on July 12, 2013, 11:56:59 AM
This one is easy, and would be a big hit, but would probably require a larger budget.
The complete Patrick O'Brian series.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/039306011X
I don't think the budget would be too bad. 80% of the series is set on ships, so you just need 2-3 sailing ships and you're mostly set.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on July 12, 2013, 12:02:06 PM
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on July 12, 2013, 11:52:20 AM
A frontier town in South Dakota, with the prospect of statehood quickly approaching, enlivened by great character actors portraying rival saloon keepers, Jew hardware store owners, gold-hearted whores, banditos, wealthy laudanum addicts, and a Canadian would-be sheriff.
Sounds good, but they should make the sheriff from Kentucky.
Good idea, we might just get through 3 seasons with that alteration.
He who controls Posh Spice, controls the Galaxy?
Quote from: 11B4V on July 12, 2013, 11:48:57 AM
Dune
Didn't they already do that?
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Quote from: Barrister on July 12, 2013, 12:02:54 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on July 12, 2013, 11:56:59 AM
This one is easy, and would be a big hit, but would probably require a larger budget.
The complete Patrick O'Brian series.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/039306011X
I don't think the budget would be too bad. 80% of the series is set on ships, so you just need 2-3 sailing ships and you're mostly set.
This would be awesome... I think it would be tough to make it look good though. Hornblower series had 2-3 sailing ships and looked pretty hack at times trying to stage the shots. CGI ships would probably be better for fleet actions and a real ship or two for on deck close-ups. It would also require production pools for storms, etc.
Quote from: Baron von Schtinkenbutt on July 12, 2013, 11:44:15 AM
Quote from: Neil on July 12, 2013, 11:01:36 AM
Dreadnoughts.
I would love to do a movie in Jutland, or a series on the entire naval war.
Dept of Redundancy Dept.
Master of the World: air pirate Roburs ongoing one man war against
Planet Earth.
Or a Star Trek show. Thatd be way fucking rad.
I know they once considered doing The Talisman, the Stephen King/Straub collaboration. Would love to see that.
This, this, a thousand times, this!
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The Skystone Series is such an awesome series. :wub:
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 12, 2013, 10:51:58 AM
HBO gives you a Rome/Band of Brothers sized budget and your choice of book or what have you to make a TV series from, what do you chose?
Hmm, Band of Brothers "Stalingrad Edition" maybe.
Maybe Gormenghast.
Or an American Heimat.
Agree on the French revolution, maybe a version of Mantel's Place of Greater Safety.
Stalingrad would be good. Maybe a Midway series set in real time. A WWI 'Band of Brothers' series would also be cool.
Tristram Shandy.
The Peloponisan War.
Quote from: Siege on July 12, 2013, 10:57:09 AM
My show would be call "The Surge", and in 10 one-hour episodes would cover the surge in Iraq from March 2007 to March 2008.
Too bad the surge lasted until July 2008 and the heaviest fighting of it took place in March-June of 2008, dipshit.
Yeah, I know, you missed it.
It's ok, you can't kill them all. Well, barring the technology to smash a huge meteorite into the earth that is.
I'd say the life of Charles XII, but not enough sexy time for HBO. Gustavus Adolphus/Thirty Years War would be nice, and a lot of nationalities would get screen time which could be good for ratings. Violence, wenching, unlikely costumes and facial hair...
Batgirl: Year One - or at least loosely based on it. 5 year arc ending with "The Killing Joke" and/or Babs running for congress. Smallville rules would be you never actually see or meet Batman himself to keep him mysterious and she never finds out his identity (or at least she finds out very late). Themes to explore the two "fathers" Order (Gordon) vs Chaos (Batman), what gotham needs frightening criminals (batman) vs. inspiring regular people (superman), how to deal with great power batman vs bruce wayne.
Keep her enemies on the retail crime level, she is a slight of build young female after all and have her lose fights. Ideally leave the issues unresolved for each episode - the junkie has a relapse, the abused wife returns to the husband, the bad cop is emboldened and the good cop loses heart. The core theme would be that only the city itself can save itself and it needs to be inspired to do so. The police and batman can only deal with symptoms.
As awesome as Jutland would be, I'm not sure that it's simple enough for TV, and there might not be enough female characters.
Quote from: Sheilbh on July 12, 2013, 01:00:45 PM
Maybe Gormenghast.
Or an American Heimat.
Agree on the French revolution, maybe a version of Mantel's Place of Greater Safety.
Gormenghast was actually done. ;)
Quote from: Neil on July 12, 2013, 01:25:08 PM
As awesome as Jutland would be, I'm not sure that it's simple enough for TV, and there might not be enough female characters.
Lots of female characters.. with seamen inside them...
NBO's Jutland starring Clive Owen as Admiral Jellicoe and Karen Gillan as HMS Princess Royal :contract:
Quote from: The Brain on July 12, 2013, 01:23:46 PM
Gustavus Adolphus/Thirty Years War would be nice, and a lot of nationalities would get screen time which could be good for ratings. Violence, wenching, unlikely costumes and facial hair...
It's like Game of Thrones in the real world, just without any likable characters and much more grim misery.
Quote from: Zanza on July 12, 2013, 01:40:22 PM
It's like Game of Thrones in the real world, just without any likable characters and much more grim misery.
You don't find Cardinal Richelieu likable?
Quote from: Viking on July 12, 2013, 01:38:37 PM
Quote from: Neil on July 12, 2013, 01:25:08 PM
As awesome as Jutland would be, I'm not sure that it's simple enough for TV, and there might not be enough female characters.
Lots of female characters.. with seamen inside them...
NBO's Jutland starring Clive Owen as Admiral Jellicoe and Karen Gillan as HMS Princess Royal :contract:
It would certainly be shocking when the actress portraying the Queen Mary was blown in half and sunk.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 12, 2013, 01:08:40 PM
The Peloponisan War.
That would also be great but if that bumps my Master and Commander series I will be upset with you.
Quote from: Zanza on July 12, 2013, 01:40:22 PM
Quote from: The Brain on July 12, 2013, 01:23:46 PM
Gustavus Adolphus/Thirty Years War would be nice, and a lot of nationalities would get screen time which could be good for ratings. Violence, wenching, unlikely costumes and facial hair...
It's like Game of Thrones in the real world, just without any likable characters and much more grim misery.
Are you kidding, there's tons of likable characters. The foul-mouthed camp whore with a heart of gold, the roguish cavalry officer with a heart of gold, the Jewish moneylender with a... the Jewish moneylender. Etc etc etc.
Quote from: The Brain on July 12, 2013, 02:48:28 PM
Quote from: Zanza on July 12, 2013, 01:40:22 PM
Quote from: The Brain on July 12, 2013, 01:23:46 PM
Gustavus Adolphus/Thirty Years War would be nice, and a lot of nationalities would get screen time which could be good for ratings. Violence, wenching, unlikely costumes and facial hair...
It's like Game of Thrones in the real world, just without any likable characters and much more grim misery.
Are you kidding, there's tons of likable characters. The foul-mouthed camp whore with a heart of gold, the roguish cavalry officer with a heart of gold, the Jewish moneylender with a... the Jewish moneylender. Etc etc etc.
Hey, Jewish moneylenders have hearts of gold! :mad:
They keep them in their strongboxes.
Gor.
Maybe the Honor Harrington series. Easily digestible as TV would dispose of Weber's tech-fluff.
Troll suggestion?
Turtledove's Worldwar series.
Real, awesome suggestion?
Give Schwarzenegger/John Milius a steady job in a series based off the King Conan comics.
They'd never do it though. Well, Milius would.
A good science fiction/cyberpunk series would be excellent. The Sprawl trilogy is my first choice, a season a book. Alternatively take the Shadowrun universe and create an ongoing series.
Byzantium 959-969, with Nikephor Phocas as the point of interest.
Battles, sieges, naval warfare, intrigue, religion, revolts, love, treason, crime.
George Washington
King's Dark Tower series.
The Languish Network would lose so much money.
Quote from: Berkut on July 13, 2013, 10:05:12 AM
King's Dark Tower series.
As long as the series got cancelled before the end.
Quote from: Tonitrus on July 12, 2013, 05:59:40 PM
Troll suggestion?
Turtledove's Worldwar series.
That could be ok with decent screenwriters capable of making distinct characters.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on July 13, 2013, 11:32:13 AM
Quote from: Tonitrus on July 12, 2013, 05:59:40 PM
Turtledove's Worldwar series.
That could be ok with decent screenwriters capable of making distinct characters.
In other words, not the Turtledove Worldwar series.
I like the concept of meshing historical fiction and alien invasion but nobody's really done it well. Cowboys and Aliens was just bad. Worldwar has promise but it's not really developed enough. It's like he sat down one night and brainstormed what the invasion might entail and then left it at that. I could forgive the lack of characterization if the world itself was fleshed out.
I'm baffled that with the popularity of Band of Brothers and The Pacific, no big-ass WWII series was made on the Eastern Front.
I'd produce a 10-episode HBO serie extravaganza on the Eastern Front, from Barbarossa to Berlin, following a rag-tag crew of Germans wehrmacht go apeshit and die for the Fatherland, then go another 10-episodes following a rag-tag of Russian guards go apeshit and die for the Motherland. Obviously, nothing would be spared for the audience, and I mean nothing. I'd go all Darkness Induced Audience Apathy on them because if there was a place in which war was Hell on earth it was in Russia.
Quote from: Zanza on July 12, 2013, 01:40:22 PM
It's like Game of Thrones in the real world, just without any likable characters and much more grim misery.
Wallenstein and Tilly were likeable sort of chaps... for the time. :unsure:
Quote from: Drakken on July 13, 2013, 07:56:50 PM
I'm baffled that with the popularity of Band of Brothers and The Pacific, no big-ass WWII series was made on the Eastern Front.
I'd produce a 10-episode HBO serie extravaganza on the Eastern Front, from Barbarossa to Berlin, following a rag-tag crew of Germans wehrmacht go apeshit and die for the Fatherland, then go another 10-episodes following a rag-tag of Russian guards go apeshit and die for the Motherland. Obviously, nothing would be spared for the audience, and I mean nothing. I'd go all Darkness Induced Audience Apathy on their eyes because if there was a place where war was hell on earth it was in Russia.
Yeah, nobody wants to watch abunch of Russians.
Quote from: Razgovory on July 13, 2013, 08:05:33 PM
Yeah, nobody wants to watch abunch of Russians.
Russians and Euroweenies like to watch a bunch of Russians carpet-maul Nazis.
I'd give Elena Vaenga a cameo, too. :perv:
Do you guys even get HBO? Anyway, you guys don't like a war film unless every surviving soldier turns into an emo wrist-slasher to demonstrate "WAR NEVER SOLVES ANYTHING".
Quote from: Drakken on July 13, 2013, 08:01:02 PM
Quote from: Zanza on July 12, 2013, 01:40:22 PM
It's like Game of Thrones in the real world, just without any likable characters and much more grim misery.
Wallenstein and Tilly were likeable sort of chaps... for the time. :unsure:
Tilly was responsible for the Sack of Magdeburg (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sack_of_Magdeburg), the biggest atrocity in a war full of them. Wallenstein brought the principle that war feeds itself to a new heights and looted whatever he could, making war perpetual.
Quote from: Zanza on July 14, 2013, 12:51:08 AM
Tilly was responsible for the Sack of Magdeburg (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sack_of_Magdeburg), the biggest atrocity in a war full of them. Wallenstein brought the principle that war feeds itself to a new heights and looted whatever he could, making war perpetual.
I know all this. Besides, Tilly is not responsible for the sack of Madgeburg, he lost control of his troops inside the fallen city because they hadn't been payed for a long while and Magdeburg was rich.
Like no TV series or movie has ever scripted a premodern, killing machine of a warlord under a sympathetic or emotionally complex light before, just for the sake of the narrative...
Quote from: Drakken on July 14, 2013, 08:40:54 AM
Quote from: Zanza on July 14, 2013, 12:51:08 AM
Tilly was responsible for the Sack of Magdeburg (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sack_of_Magdeburg), the biggest atrocity in a war full of them. Wallenstein brought the principle that war feeds itself to a new heights and looted whatever he could, making war perpetual.
I know all this. Besides, Tilly is not responsible for the sack of Madgeburg, he lost control of his troops inside the fallen city because they hadn't been payed for a long while and Magdeburg was rich.
Command responsibility.
Anyway, my second idea for a series would be Battletech, starting just before the Fourth Succession War in 3028. No Clan shit.
Quote from: Baron von Schtinkenbutt on July 14, 2013, 10:09:21 AM
Command responsibility.
Ex post facto law. In fact, sacking a city who had refused to surrender
was the norm back then. Magdeburg not only vehemently refused to surrender, but was one of the focal points of Protestant resistance to the Emperor.
Also, Tilly (and almost all commanders of the TYW) was commanding mercenaries, whose day-to-day life in between battles was to plunder the countryside for money and food, which meant torturing, raping, and murdering. Principles of later-century national armies and Geneva conventions cannot be retroactively used when one is commanding a bunch of scorchers who can turn on you if you don't pay them or don't allow them to loot and rape. Only the bible-thumping, gung-go Swedish king succeeded in maintaining heavy-ass discipline, and even then the Swedish army was also including a lot of mercenaries - themselves plundering.
Russian Revolution, from 1905 to the death of the NEP. Maybe 6 seasons.
Quote from: Drakken on July 14, 2013, 10:23:29 AM
Ex post facto law. In fact, sacking a city who had refused to surrender was the norm back then. Magdeburg not only vehemently refused to surrender, but was one of the focal points of Protestant resistance to the Emperor.
Also, Tilly (and almost all commanders of the TYW) was commanding mercenaries, whose day-to-day life in between battles was to plunder the countryside for money and food, which meant torturing, raping, and murdering. Principles of later-century national armies and Geneva conventions cannot be retroactively used when one is commanding a bunch of scorchers who can turn on you if you don't pay them or don't allow them to loot and rape. Only the bible-thumping, gung-go Swedish king succeeded in maintaining heavy-ass discipline, and even then the Swedish army was also including a lot of mercenaries - themselves plundering.
The sack of Magdeburg was infamous at its time and people of the times certainly lamented the utter depravity of the mercenary armies. So even by the standards of the time, the Thirty Years War and its atrocities were considered damnable.
Quote from: Zanza on July 14, 2013, 11:47:59 AM
Quote from: Drakken on July 14, 2013, 10:23:29 AM
Ex post facto law. In fact, sacking a city who had refused to surrender was the norm back then. Magdeburg not only vehemently refused to surrender, but was one of the focal points of Protestant resistance to the Emperor.
Also, Tilly (and almost all commanders of the TYW) was commanding mercenaries, whose day-to-day life in between battles was to plunder the countryside for money and food, which meant torturing, raping, and murdering. Principles of later-century national armies and Geneva conventions cannot be retroactively used when one is commanding a bunch of scorchers who can turn on you if you don't pay them or don't allow them to loot and rape. Only the bible-thumping, gung-go Swedish king succeeded in maintaining heavy-ass discipline, and even then the Swedish army was also including a lot of mercenaries - themselves plundering.
The sack of Magdeburg was infamous at its time and people of the times certainly lamented the utter depravity of the mercenary armies. So even by the standards of the time, the Thirty Years War and its atrocities were considered damnable.
Think of Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo, infamous today as torture centers.. though, they are certainly the least bad of places where torture does happen. Magdeburg was a propagandistic tool for mobilizing protestants not because the brutality of the sack but rather that it's fall represented a crisis for the protestant princes who were in danger of losing the whole war at the time. It's not a case of OMG THE HUMANITY!!!!!1111oneoneone, it was more like Shit, were losing, we need to mobilize the base.
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A series based on The Long Ships would be awesome. :)
Quote from: Malthus on July 15, 2013, 08:44:56 AM
A series based on The Long Ships would be awesome. :)
Yes. :)
The Revolutionary War era in New York Colony/State between Fort Niagara and Albany. Incredible potential there.
I'd call it Versailles. It would be about the French Nobility and cover the period between the Fronde and the beheading of Louis XVI. There'd be sex, bloodshed and Jean de la Fontaine. It can't lose.
Sex on tv is so passé.
Quote from: garbon on July 19, 2013, 01:10:25 PM
Sex on tv is so passé.
It's best that we turn now to other taboos, like characters going to the bathroom.
Quote from: garbon on July 19, 2013, 01:10:25 PM
Sex on tv is so passé.
Plus, those flatscreens make it very difficult unless you are a contortionist.
Quote from: fhdz on July 19, 2013, 01:14:47 PM
Quote from: garbon on July 19, 2013, 01:10:25 PM
Sex on tv is so passé.
It's best that we turn now to other taboos, like characters going to the bathroom.
MTV TRUE LIFE: I'm addicted to colonoscopies.
Quote from: garbon on July 19, 2013, 01:20:05 PM
Quote from: fhdz on July 19, 2013, 01:14:47 PM
Quote from: garbon on July 19, 2013, 01:10:25 PM
Sex on tv is so passé.
It's best that we turn now to other taboos, like characters going to the bathroom.
MTV TRUE LIFE: I'm addicted to colonoscopies.
:D
Quote from: garbon on July 19, 2013, 01:10:25 PM
Sex on tv is so passé.
Nothing else holds fashion; except for war, of course. :bowler:
1. First Man in Rome
2. I, Claudius
3. A series covering Greece from the Persian wars until the destruction of Sparta
4. A series covering the creation of the United States from the French and Indian War until the end of Washington's Presidency
5. Patrick Rothfuss' Kingkiller chronicle
6. Old Man's War series
7. A series based on the RPG 'Rifts' by Palladium
8. Starship Trooper (based on the book, not the movie)
9. Garth Innis comic book 'the boys'
10. France 1789-1815
That should be enough ideas for starters
Triple X version of Messallina's competition. With Jessica alba as Messallina.
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 23, 2013, 06:31:08 PM
Triple X version of Messallina's competition. With Jessica alba as Messallina.
Cuntmander-in-Chief.
That would be a hit on Lifetime For Women channel, right on par with
The Client List.
I'm waiting for Cornwell's viking series to get the Sharpe treatment :bowler:
Or Robinson's Mars Trilogy.
Quote from: Baron von Schtinkenbutt on July 14, 2013, 10:09:21 AM
Command responsibility.
Anyway, my second idea for a series would be Battletech, starting just before the Fourth Succession War in 3028. No Clan shit.
:mad: And then a Timber Wolf comes rolling in and ends your show.