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Started by Jacob, June 05, 2013, 04:19:54 PM

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derspiess

Quote from: Ed Anger on June 05, 2013, 06:58:42 PM
Quote from: derspiess on June 05, 2013, 06:51:43 PM
The "carmel" pronunciation of the word "caramel" has always annoyed the piss out of me. My mom's family were repeat offenders. Always sounded lazy and provincial to me.

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Ed Anger

Quote from: derspiess on June 05, 2013, 08:11:59 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 05, 2013, 06:58:42 PM
Quote from: derspiess on June 05, 2013, 06:51:43 PM
The "carmel" pronunciation of the word "caramel" has always annoyed the piss out of me. My mom's family were repeat offenders. Always sounded lazy and provincial to me.

You'll live.

YOU'RE ONE OF THEM, AREN'T YOU

Yep. I do it to annoy people.

I also ask for Moxie.
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Admiral Yi

Quote from: Caliga on June 05, 2013, 07:49:40 PM
No.  They call them that in Rhode Island, or more accurately "grinduhs".  It's "sub" in Boston.  When I went there for college I got roundly mocked the first time I said I wanted a "hoagie".

Da fuck is a gawdamn hoagie, kid?

I've definitely ordered grinders in Boston.  I think in Faneuil Hall.

Siege

Quote from: Jacob on June 05, 2013, 04:19:54 PM
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I was taught to say Tennis shoes in Israel, but I learnt to say sneakers when I got to the States.



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Caliga

Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 05, 2013, 08:21:49 PM
I've definitely ordered grinders in Boston.  I think in Faneuil Hall.
:hmm: I have zero recollection of them being called that.  I know what a grinder is (I know it as a hot sub sandwich), but I literally cannot remember one place up there that used the term on its menu.
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garbon

Quote from: Caliga on June 05, 2013, 09:02:04 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 05, 2013, 08:21:49 PM
I've definitely ordered grinders in Boston.  I think in Faneuil Hall.
:hmm: I have zero recollection of them being called that.  I know what a grinder is (I know it as a hot sub sandwich), but I literally cannot remember one place up there that used the term on its menu.

I don't know if you ever went there, but I believe Lake Williams Pizza called them that.
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garbon

Actually quick google search shows that they most often appear in New England at pizza places.
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merithyn

Quote from: Caliga on June 05, 2013, 09:02:04 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 05, 2013, 08:21:49 PM
I've definitely ordered grinders in Boston.  I think in Faneuil Hall.
:hmm: I have zero recollection of them being called that.  I know what a grinder is (I know it as a hot sub sandwich), but I literally cannot remember one place up there that used the term on its menu.

Where I grew up, grinders were also known as guinea grinders, and were hot Italian sausage sandwiches with red sauce, topped with cheese. It wasn't until I visited my mom's family in Rhode Island when I was 16 that I found out that a) "guinea" was considered rude; and b) grinders were also a kind of sub.
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I wish, I wish he'd go away...

Valmy

Guinea is considered rude?

Is it some sort of slur towards West Africans? :unsure:

'Guinea?  I am from The Gambia you bastard!!11'
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Quote from: Valmy on June 07, 2013, 09:09:03 AM
Guinea is considered rude?

Is it some sort of slur towards West Africans? :unsure:

'Guinea?  I am from The Gambia you bastard!!11'

It's a rude term for Italians.

Edit:

Here's a link to a recipe for a Guinea Grinder, which is apparently an Iowa thing. http://amandascookin.com/2011/07/guinea-grinder-iowa-state-fair-food.html

And a link to the Urban Dictionary explaining why it's bad.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=guinea
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#41
Quote from: merithyn on June 07, 2013, 09:13:34 AM
It's a rude term for Italians.

Huh.  Go figure.  Like implying Sicilians are descended from n*****?

Edit: well sure enough. 
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

merithyn

Quote from: Valmy on June 07, 2013, 09:15:37 AM
Quote from: merithyn on June 07, 2013, 09:13:34 AM
It's a rude term for Italians.

Huh.  Go figure.  Like implying Sicilians are descended from n*****?

Yes, in a way. It was implying that Italians weren't white.
Yesterday, upon the stair,
I met a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
I wish, I wish he'd go away...

The Larch

Quote from: PDH on June 05, 2013, 08:12:52 PM
I was born in Caramel, California.

Nice city. And it had Clint Eastwood as major.

dps

Quote from: merithyn on June 07, 2013, 09:06:23 AM
Quote from: Caliga on June 05, 2013, 09:02:04 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 05, 2013, 08:21:49 PM
I've definitely ordered grinders in Boston.  I think in Faneuil Hall.
:hmm: I have zero recollection of them being called that.  I know what a grinder is (I know it as a hot sub sandwich), but I literally cannot remember one place up there that used the term on its menu.

Where I grew up, grinders were also known as guinea grinders, and were hot Italian sausage sandwiches with red sauce, topped with cheese. It wasn't until I visited my mom's family in Rhode Island when I was 16 that I found out that a) "guinea" was considered rude; and b) grinders were also a kind of sub.

Where I grew up, grinders were something made by Black & Decker or Craftsman, not a restaurant.