American Linguistic Divisions

[derspiess]

The "carmel" pronunciation of the word "caramel" has always annoyed the piss out of me. My mom's family were repeat offenders. Always sounded lazy and provincial to me.

You'll live.

YOU'RE ONE OF THEM, AREN'T YOU

[PDH]

I was born in Caramel, California.

[Ed Anger]

The "carmel" pronunciation of the word "caramel" has always annoyed the piss out of me. My mom's family were repeat offenders. Always sounded lazy and provincial to me.

You'll live.

YOU'RE ONE OF THEM, AREN'T YOU

Yep. I do it to annoy people.

I also ask for Moxie.

[Admiral Yi]

No.  They call them that in Rhode Island, or more accurately "grinduhs".  It's "sub" in Boston.  When I went there for college I got roundly mocked the first time I said I wanted a "hoagie".

Da fuck is a gawdamn hoagie, kid?

I've definitely ordered grinders in Boston.  I think in Faneuil Hall.

[Siege]

For those of you who are interested in the US or who like maps: http://www.businessinsider.com/22-maps-that-show-the-deepest-linguistic-conflicts-in-america-2013-6?op=1

I was shocked by the Sneakers-Tennis shoes.
I was taught to say Tennis shoes in Israel, but I learnt to say sneakers when I got to the States.

[Caliga]

I've definitely ordered grinders in Boston.  I think in Faneuil Hall.

I have zero recollection of them being called that.  I know what a grinder is (I know it as a hot sub sandwich), but I literally cannot remember one place up there that used the term on its menu.

[garbon]

I've definitely ordered grinders in Boston.  I think in Faneuil Hall.

I have zero recollection of them being called that.  I know what a grinder is (I know it as a hot sub sandwich), but I literally cannot remember one place up there that used the term on its menu.

I don't know if you ever went there, but I believe Lake Williams Pizza called them that.

[garbon]

Actually quick google search shows that they most often appear in New England at pizza places.

[merithyn]

I've definitely ordered grinders in Boston.  I think in Faneuil Hall.

I have zero recollection of them being called that.  I know what a grinder is (I know it as a hot sub sandwich), but I literally cannot remember one place up there that used the term on its menu.

Where I grew up, grinders were also known as guinea grinders, and were hot Italian sausage sandwiches with red sauce, topped with cheese. It wasn't until I visited my mom's family in Rhode Island when I was 16 that I found out that a) "guinea" was considered rude; and b) grinders were also a kind of sub.

[Valmy]

Guinea is considered rude?

Is it some sort of slur towards West Africans?

'Guinea?  I am from The Gambia you bastard!!11'

[merithyn]

Guinea is considered rude?

Is it some sort of slur towards West Africans?

'Guinea?  I am from The Gambia you bastard!!11'

It's a rude term for Italians.

Edit:

Here's a link to a recipe for a Guinea Grinder, which is apparently an Iowa thing. http://amandascookin.com/2011/07/guinea-grinder-iowa-state-fair-food.html

And a link to the Urban Dictionary explaining why it's bad.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=guinea

[Valmy]

It's a rude term for Italians.

Huh.  Go figure.  Like implying Sicilians are descended from n*****?

Edit: well sure enough. 

[merithyn]

It's a rude term for Italians.

Huh.  Go figure.  Like implying Sicilians are descended from n*****?

Yes, in a way. It was implying that Italians weren't white.

[The Larch]

I was born in Caramel, California.

Nice city. And it had Clint Eastwood as major.

[dps]

I've definitely ordered grinders in Boston.  I think in Faneuil Hall.

I have zero recollection of them being called that.  I know what a grinder is (I know it as a hot sub sandwich), but I literally cannot remember one place up there that used the term on its menu.

Where I grew up, grinders were also known as guinea grinders, and were hot Italian sausage sandwiches with red sauce, topped with cheese. It wasn't until I visited my mom's family in Rhode Island when I was 16 that I found out that a) "guinea" was considered rude; and b) grinders were also a kind of sub.

Where I grew up, grinders were something made by Black & Decker or Craftsman, not a restaurant.