2016 elections - because it's never too early

[Zanza]

[...]We're seeing that both parties are deeply fragmented. These days the Democratic Party can be split up in a similar way, with old-school centrists on one side and a utopian progressive wing on the other. Populists are making up about the same percentage on each side at this moment. Almost every primary election brings grand theories about permanent fractures, but each side usually winds up coming together — though not always too comfortably.

If we had a parliamentary system, we would most likely wind up with four big groupings: Hard leftists and right-wing nationalists would each win about 15-20 percent, and then social democrats and the center-right would claim 30-35 percent each.[...]

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/19/opinion/campaign-stops/a-new-york-primary-that-actually-matters.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-left-region&region=opinion-c-col-left-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region

[Zanza]

When will the results of the NY primary be in?

[Valmy]

When will the results of the NY primary be in?

Sometime late tonight. They stay open late in NY. So I wouldn't expect to see much until you wake up tomorrow.

[Zanza]

Okay. Based on browsing Reddit I expeced no less than 100% each for The Donald and Bernie.

[celedhring]

Okay. Based on browsing Reddit I expeced no less than 100% each for The Donald and Bernie.

Not according to my Facebook. Bernie will get 0% because of DNC's voter supression practices.

[Admiral Yi]

Bernie will get 0% because of DNC's voter supression practices.

Any idea what this is a reference to?

[Razgovory]

Bernie will get 0% because of DNC's voter supression practices.

Any idea what this is a reference to?

Bernie bros are conspiratorial. 

[celedhring]

Bernie will get 0% because of DNC's voter supression practices.

Any idea what this is a reference to?

Deadline to register for NY's DNC was apparently back in October and most of Bernie's supporters are independents.

[Martinus]

If you guys keep the Electoral College, at least the rules for awarding electors should be made uniform for all states. A situation where some states award the electors proportionally and some by winner-takes-all principle makes the system wildly undemocratic.

[Valmy]

If you guys keep the Electoral College, at least the rules for awarding electors should be made uniform for all states. A situation where some states award the electors proportionally and some by winner-takes-all principle makes the system wildly undemocratic.

The whole point of the EC is that each state run its own election so that strikes me as unlikely.

[Eddie Teach]

If you guys keep the Electoral College, at least the rules for awarding electors should be made uniform for all states. A situation where some states award the electors proportionally and some by winner-takes-all principle makes the system wildly undemocratic.

Most of the states realize that winner-takes-all makes them more important, so there's just a couple states that do it differently- they have winner of each congressional district gets the elector.

[Admiral Yi]

Deadline to register for NY's DNC was apparently back in October and most of Bernie's supporters are independents.

Asoka.

[Eddie Teach]

I'm predicting close win for Hilary, big win for Donald.

[Habbaku]

If you guys keep the Electoral College, at least the rules for awarding electors should be made uniform for all states. A situation where some states award the electors proportionally and some by winner-takes-all principle makes the system wildly undemocratic.

If we're going to do anything like that, it would make sense to go the full-measure of just abolishing the EC.  The EC isn't meant to be democratic in the first place--it's the exact opposite, and intentionally-so.

[Valmy]

If you guys keep the Electoral College, at least the rules for awarding electors should be made uniform for all states. A situation where some states award the electors proportionally and some by winner-takes-all principle makes the system wildly undemocratic.

If we're going to do anything like that, it would make sense to go the full-measure of just abolishing the EC.  The EC isn't meant to be democratic in the first place--it's the exact opposite, and intentionally-so.

Then there is the idea of Faithless Electors. That an elector is actually allowed to do that is amazing.