2016 elections - because it's never too early

Started by merithyn, May 09, 2013, 07:37:45 AM

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Zanza


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Not enough references to Mexicans or a wall. Definitely ghost written.
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Zanza

Also not referencing "Lyin' Ted" but Mr. Cruz.

Apparently Colorado has always chosen their delegates this way?

Admiral Yi

The hired guns Trump recently took on board are earning their paychecks.

Berkut

Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 15, 2016, 12:44:16 PM
The hired guns Trump recently took on board are earning their paychecks.

Indeed. I think Trump has realized that it is probably time to start being a bit more of a grown up in his tone, and is letting others speak for him, which is a smart move.
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alfred russel

Quote from: Zanza on April 15, 2016, 12:29:22 PM
He certainly has a point there.

Not really. He just throws out a bunch of bullshit and it sounds good but it isn't really based in reality.

He isn't self funding his campaign. "Responsible leaders should be shocked by the idea that party officials can simply cancel elections in America if they don't like what the voters may decide"--that isn't why a traditional primary was not held in Colorado. "Mr. Cruz has toured the country bragging about his voterless victory in Colorado"--it wasn't voterless--it was just that the votes were at the county conventions, and there were such a large number of delegate candidates that people needed to organize to be effective. The Cruz people did so effectively, the Trump people did not. "What we are seeing now is not a proper use of the rules, but a flagrant abuse of the rules. Delegates are supposed to reflect the decisions of voters, but the system is being rigged by party operatives with "double-agent" delegates who reject the decision of voters." I think that is not the case, both in what they are supposed to do and that it is being rigged by "party operatives" versus the Cruz campaign being effective wrangling delegates.
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Quote from: alfred russel on April 15, 2016, 01:03:23 PM
Quote from: Zanza on April 15, 2016, 12:29:22 PM
He certainly has a point there.

Not really. He just throws out a bunch of bullshit and it sounds good but it isn't really based in reality.

He isn't self funding his campaign. "Responsible leaders should be shocked by the idea that party officials can simply cancel elections in America if they don't like what the voters may decide"--that isn't why a traditional primary was not held in Colorado. "Mr. Cruz has toured the country bragging about his voterless victory in Colorado"--it wasn't voterless--it was just that the votes were at the county conventions, and there were such a large number of delegate candidates that people needed to organize to be effective. The Cruz people did so effectively, the Trump people did not. "What we are seeing now is not a proper use of the rules, but a flagrant abuse of the rules. Delegates are supposed to reflect the decisions of voters, but the system is being rigged by party operatives with "double-agent" delegates who reject the decision of voters." I think that is not the case, both in what they are supposed to do and that it is being rigged by "party operatives" versus the Cruz campaign being effective wrangling delegates.

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Razgovory

Quote from: Savonarola on April 14, 2016, 09:25:50 AM


This comic strip ran in 1953 (when Donald Trump was 7).  Did Charlie Brown grow up to become Donald Trump?  :(

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Martinus

Quote from: Habbaku on April 15, 2016, 11:35:31 AM
Quote from: Legbiter on April 15, 2016, 07:11:04 AM
Dosen't matter, short of Clinton dropping dead, Sanders will get superdelegated out of the nomination. The Dems have this weird Iranian-style system where  voters participate in some sort of ritualistic placebo voting while party leaders select the candidate.

Yet Clinton has clearly won a majority of the votes thus far.  Do the Sanders supporters just ignore that in their zeal?  Or are they clueless?

Yes. They are also not very good at maths.

Martinus

Quote from: Berkut on April 15, 2016, 12:45:10 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 15, 2016, 12:44:16 PM
The hired guns Trump recently took on board are earning their paychecks.

Indeed. I think Trump has realized that it is probably time to start being a bit more of a grown up in his tone, and is letting others speak for him, which is a smart move.

As I said, I think he is more or less consciously playing out a story arc for his character. We are now in act 2 - the Empire Strikes Back - the brash if cocky outsider suffers his first defeat and matures into something better than he was before. :P

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Quote from: Razgovory on April 15, 2016, 01:30:13 PM
Quote from: Savonarola on April 14, 2016, 09:25:50 AM


This comic strip ran in 1953 (when Donald Trump was 7).  Did Charlie Brown grow up to become Donald Trump?  :(

Before the nuclear regulatory commission was founded, there were lots of bald children like this.

Big Government. :rolleyes:
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Legbiter

New polling's out, Trump's putting Cruz to bed.  :hmm:

QuoteRepublican presidential candidate Donald Trump is widening his lead in the GOP race, according to the latest national poll released Thursday.

Trump gets the support of 45 percent of likely GOP primary voters in a new Fox News poll, followed by Ted Cruz, with 27 percent, and John Kasich, with 25 percent. 
Trump had just a 3-point lead over Cruz in the same poll conducted in March, when Cruz previously held 38 percent of the vote.

The results are in line with other national polls. A CBS News poll released Thursday shows Trump with a 13-point lead over Cruz.

According to a RealClearPolitics average of all national polls, Trump has a 10-point lead on Cruz with 40 percent support to Cruz's 30 percent.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/276381-poll-trump-widens-national-lead

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I don't think anyone but Ted Cruz thinks Ted Cruz can win the delegate race. Real question is can Trump get a majority, and if not can he get anyone not pledged to him to vote for him.
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HisMajestyBOB

I'm looking forward to the fireworks when the delegates fuck over Trump in favor of Ted Cruz at the convention, despite a large gap in votes and 1st-round delegates.
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