2016 elections - because it's never too early

[Jaron]

Sure. I mean Hitler did help the LDS church get 6 million new converts.

[Valmy]

Sure. I mean Hitler did help the LDS church get 6 million new converts.

So wrong on multiple levels. Well done J.

[Capetan Mihali]

I like the Mormons, I'm always nice to the young ones serving their Quest or whatever it's called.  Most of the people were very pleasant in a genuine way, not to mention incredibly good-looking and fertile.  I had Saturday breakfast at a diner-type restaurant, and I swear one family had to use a table the size of something you'd find in a conference room to accommodate the whole well-behaved pure Aryan brood. 

Not to mention Deseret is breathtakingly beautiful.  One night in Ogden and I was about ready to convert.  Besides, I'm sick of booze and coffee anyways, and if I really wanted to defy the Word of Wisdom, the 3.2 beer brewed specifically for the Utah market isn't bad at all -- like your standard English ale, since 3.2% ABW = 4.0% ABV -- and "real" coffee is all the more alluring.  It's disappointing a little, actually, Utah's getting to be more like anywhere else, these things aren't maintained as strictly as I'd expected, at least in urbane Northern Utah.

[Jaron]

I like the Mormons, I'm always nice to the young ones serving their Quest or whatever it's called.  Most of the people were very pleasant in a genuine way, not to mention incredibly good-looking and fertile.  I had Saturday breakfast at a diner-type restaurant, and I swear one family had to use a table the size of something you'd find in a conference room to accommodate the whole well-behaved pure Aryan brood. 

Not to mention Deseret is breathtakingly beautiful.  One night in Ogden and I was about ready to convert.  Besides, I'm sick of booze and coffee anyways, and if I really wanted to defy the Word of Wisdom, the 3.2 beer brewed specifically for the Utah market isn't bad at all -- like your standard English ale, since 3.2% ABW = 4.0% ABV -- and "real" coffee is all the more alluring.  It's disappointing a little, actually, Utah's getting to be more like anywhere else, these things aren't maintained as strictly as I'd expected, at least in urbane Northern Utah.

Yes, that is so. It is stricter in Provo where the LDS church is strongest. Salt Lake City is becoming very liberal and its changing the landscape. The Church still has a firm grip on state politics though and usually when the religious leadership expresses dislike of a bill it quietly dies in the state legislature.

[Valmy]

I just do not understand you Capetan. Arbitrary lifestyle restrictions dictated by centralized religion is something you admire now?

[katmai]

I just do not understand you Capetan. Arbitrary lifestyle restrictions dictated by centralized religion is something you admire now?

off his meds?

[Admiral Yi]

Sure. I mean Hitler did help the LDS church get 6 million new converts.

[Martinus]

Sure. I mean Hitler did help the LDS church get 6 million new converts.

[Martinus]

I just do not understand you Capetan. Arbitrary lifestyle restrictions dictated by centralized religion is something you admire now?

Yeah, it's almost like he has some brain tumor.

[Capetan Mihali]

I just do not understand you Capetan. Arbitrary lifestyle restrictions dictated by centralized religion is something you admire now?

  You guys are too much.

"Yes, it's truly sad.  We first noticed this novel neurological disorder after he claimed he wouldn't vote for Hillary Clinton if she were the Democratic nominee.  At first we ascribed this to his general childishness, but what really alarmed us was his broad critique of Israel, well beyond the normal tendency of mere neurotics to criticize one or two aspects of policy, which sank fully into the delusional position that Israel was an unworthy recipient of American aid.  Then came the argument for providing indigent parties with legal aid in important civil proceedings.  Soon -- inevitably -- he was praising the Mormons for their warm nature when he visited Utah.  A downward spiral in the truest sense... I only hope strong neuroleptics and extended inpatient commitment can bring him back into touch with reality, one day at least."

No offense to Jaron, but I was being just a little bit tongue-in-cheek, for the love of Latter-Day Saints.

[Capetan Mihali]

Yes, that is so. It is stricter in Provo where the LDS church is strongest. Salt Lake City is becoming very liberal and its changing the landscape. The Church still has a firm grip on state politics though and usually when the religious leadership expresses dislike of a bill it quietly dies in the state legislature.

I regret not being able to visit S.L.C. on my journey West, I was excited to check out the Tabernacle, but the Interstate cleverly avoids it.  Ogden was always a major railroad hub, so I figure it probably has a more rough-and-tumble, non-Mormon history, though I didn't make it downtown even there.

Southern Idaho surprised me by being seemingly just as Mormon as Utah.  And the fact billboards appear to be prohibited in Idaho, like Vermont and New Hampshire.

[CountDeMoney]

  You guys are too much.

"Yes, it's truly sad.  We first noticed this novel neurological disorder after he claimed he wouldn't vote for Hillary Clinton if she were the Democratic nominee.  At first we ascribed this to his general childishness, but what really alarmed us was his broad critique of Israel, well beyond the normal tendency of mere neurotics to criticize one or two aspects of policy, which sank fully into the delusional position that Israel was an unworthy recipient of American aid.  Then came the argument for providing indigent parties with legal aid in important civil proceedings.  Soon -- inevitably -- he was praising the Mormons for their warm nature when he visited Utah.  A downward spiral in the truest sense... I only hope strong neuroleptics and extended inpatient commitment can bring him back into touch with reality, one day at least."

It's like two great Harvard tastes that go great together: 
"You got your pugnacious social justice in my veiled WASPish antisemitism!" 
"Nuh uh, you got your veiled WASPish antisemitism in my pugnacious social justice!"

[Capetan Mihali]

Yes, we can't rule out his educational background as a contributory factor to this illness.

[CountDeMoney]

Of course not.  After all, look at our Georgetown grads.   

[garbon]

I mean when Languish starts thinking you are acting crazy...