2016 elections - because it's never too early

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Capetan Mihali

#7590
March 20, 2016, 08:24:11 AM
Of fuck, Ricky Martin endorsed her?  As a man who lives la vida loca, I have some soul-searching to do.
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Tonitrus

#7591
March 20, 2016, 09:42:54 AM
Trump has the endorsement of Charles in Charge.  :P

Martinus

#7592
March 20, 2016, 09:56:37 AM
Quote from: garbon on March 20, 2016, 07:38:09 AM
Wiki says she was endorsed by Rosie, Chaz, Ellen, Jesse  Tyler Ferguson, Zachary Quinto, Ricky Martin among others.

Oh ok.

Zachary Quinto is a total fool, by the way. I saw him once on Bill Maher. It's Ben Affleck's levels of idiocy.

celedhring

#7593
March 20, 2016, 09:58:04 AM
I met him in person (he was involved with my uni a lot, for some reason). Seemed a very nice and down-to-heart bloke.

Martinus

#7594
March 20, 2016, 10:00:21 AM
Quote from: celedhring on March 20, 2016, 09:58:04 AM
I met him in person (he was involved with my uni a lot, for some reason). Seemed a very nice and down-to-heart bloke.

Doesn't change the fact that his politics is moronic. In fact, "being nice" and "having moronic politics" tend to go hand in hand more often than not. It's the whole "gutmensch" syndrome. :P

11B4V

#7595
March 20, 2016, 12:01:02 PM
Quote from: Martinus on March 20, 2016, 10:00:21 AM
Quote from: celedhring on March 20, 2016, 09:58:04 AM
I met him in person (he was involved with my uni a lot, for some reason). Seemed a very nice and down-to-heart bloke.

Doesn't change the fact that his politics is moronic. In fact, "being nice" and "having moronic politics" tend to go hand in hand more often than not. It's the whole "gutmensch" syndrome. :P

That's a good one.  :lol:
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Jaron

#7596
March 20, 2016, 12:50:49 PM
Quote from: Jaron on March 19, 2016, 11:38:30 PM
Quote from: Valmy on March 19, 2016, 10:00:20 PM
Quote from: Jaron on March 19, 2016, 12:29:59 PM
Utah will probably go blue unless Cruz is the nominee. Trump is deeply unpopular here because of his treatment of Mitt Romney and his attacks on the LDS church.

No way. Utah will go blue right after DC goes red.

I think I know the politics of my own state a little better than you.

It'll be:

If Cruz is nominee: Red
Else: Blue

Oh Eddie... :contract:

https://www.ksl.com/?sid=38970451&nid=960&title=poll-utah-would-vote-for-a-democrat-for-president-over-trump

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SALT LAKE CITY — If Donald Trump becomes the Republican Party's nominee, Utahns would vote for a Democrat for president in November for the first time in more than 50 years, according to a new Deseret News/KSL poll.

"I believe Donald Trump could lose Utah. If you lose Utah as a Republican, there is no hope," said former Utah Gov. Mike Leavitt, a top campaign adviser to the GOP's 2012 nominee, Mitt Romney.

The poll found that may well be true. Utah voters said they would reject Trump, the GOP frontrunner, whether former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton or Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders is the Democratic candidate on the general election ballot.

While Clinton was only slightly ahead of Trump — 38 percent to 36 percent — Sanders, a self-declared Democratic socialist, holds a substantial lead — 48 percent to 37 percent over the billionaire businessman and reality TV star among likely Utah voters.

"Wow. Wow. That's surprising," said Chris Karpowitz, co-director of Brigham Young University's Center for the Study of Elections and Democracy. "Any matchup in which Democrats are competitive in the state of Utah is shocking."

Also surprising is the number of Utahns who said they wouldn't vote if Trump were on the ballot. Sixteen percent said they'd skip the election if Trump and Clinton were their ballot choices, while 9 percent said they wouldn't vote if it was a Trump-Sanders matchup.

Both Texas Sen. Ted Cruz and Ohio Gov. John Kasich would beat either Democratic candidate in Utah, the poll found. Sanders came closest against Cruz, with 39 percent of Utahns backing Sanders to 53 percent for Cruz.
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Eddie Teach

#7597
March 20, 2016, 01:03:45 PM
I have a feeling we'll see hard data rather than polling numbers in 8 months.
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Martinus

#7598
March 20, 2016, 01:31:36 PM
Mitt the NitWit is now endorsing Cruz.  :lol:

Jaron

#7599
March 20, 2016, 01:34:23 PM
Cruz is very popular in Utah and among Mormons in general.

Not only because he is religious, but because he is a strict constitutionalist and that appeals to Utah voters.
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Eddie Teach

#7600
March 20, 2016, 01:38:14 PM
Anyway, you should be saying "If Trump, blue, else red". Any "compromise" candidates coming out of the convention will be a lock. Romney, Ryan, Rubio, etc.
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Jaron

#7601
March 20, 2016, 01:40:57 PM
I'm only listing realistic candidates. Trump will get the delegates for the nomination unless Cruz can pull an upset (which is possible).
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Valmy

#7602
March 20, 2016, 01:59:07 PM
Ok now I kind of want Trump to win just so I can one day tell my grandchildren I was there when Utah voted for the Democrats.

I mean that last happened when LBJ went all the way.
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Capetan Mihali

#7603
March 20, 2016, 02:02:11 PM Last Edit: March 20, 2016, 02:06:52 PM by Capetan Mihali
I'll take Jaron's word on this.  D.J. Trump has also led an exceptionally sinful life, personally and professionally, steeped in avarice and lust, profiting off of a massive casino enterprise, full of tobacco and alcohol sales as well as the obvious gambling, and not to mention the connection with prostitution among other forms of adultery (strip clubs).  How many good Mormons will pull the lever for this man?
"The internet's completely over. [...] The internet's like MTV. At one time MTV was hip and suddenly it became outdated. Anyway, all these computers and digital gadgets are no good. They just fill your head with numbers and that can't be good for you."
-- Prince, 2010. (R.I.P.)

PJL

#7604
March 20, 2016, 02:04:43 PM
I get the impression that Utah would vote for Hitler if Trump was the only other alternative.
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