2016 elections - because it's never too early

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Admiral Yi

#4290
February 03, 2016, 07:13:08 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on February 03, 2016, 06:58:24 PM
If Reason articles keep appearing on my facebook wall, I'm going to post the choicest ones here.

Does this mean that if they don't, you won't?

garbon

#4291
February 03, 2016, 07:21:15 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on February 03, 2016, 06:58:24 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on February 03, 2016, 06:35:09 PM
Raz is the new Tim, apparently.

Got it from Skip.  If Reason articles keep appearing on my facebook wall, I'm going to post the choicest ones here.  "Millennials like Bernie Sanders and Donald J. Trump because they're delusional." was not my line, it was the byline on the Facebook link.

On your wall or in your feed?
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

The Minsky Moment

#4292
February 03, 2016, 07:23:51 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on February 03, 2016, 05:44:47 PM
Hehe.  I love the libertarians.


Millennials like Bernie Sanders and Donald J. Trump because they're delusional.

They are correct though that libertarianism has no tangible support among GOP primary voters.  All the candidates remaining are hawkish on foreign policy and hawkish on law and order, except for gun rights.  Even on economics, Cruz is really the only one running unabashedly and credibly on a shrink-the-state platform, but even he is emphasizing his social conservatism in the race.  The GOP primary candidates got the message and are keeping their "government hands" off the voters' social security.

While I am not a fan of libertarian ideology and while Rand Paul made a good run at being my least favorite candidate in the primaries (a very competitive race this year) I don't think the weakness of that faction is a big positive.  Libertarians could usually be counted on to defend civil liberties, and civil liberties are under threat.  The rhetorical bidding contest between Trump, Christie, Cruz and Rubio to slight those liberties is not pleasant to watch.
The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists.
--Joan Robinson

Razgovory

#4293
February 03, 2016, 07:34:48 PM
Quote from: garbon on February 03, 2016, 07:21:15 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on February 03, 2016, 06:58:24 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on February 03, 2016, 06:35:09 PM
Raz is the new Tim, apparently.

Got it from Skip.  If Reason articles keep appearing on my facebook wall, I'm going to post the choicest ones here.  "Millennials like Bernie Sanders and Donald J. Trump because they're delusional." was not my line, it was the byline on the Facebook link.

On your wall or in your feed?

Which ever.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Razgovory

#4294
February 03, 2016, 07:35:44 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 03, 2016, 07:13:08 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on February 03, 2016, 06:58:24 PM
If Reason articles keep appearing on my facebook wall, I'm going to post the choicest ones here.

Does this mean that if they don't, you won't?

If Libertarians stop being crazy, I'll stop reposting.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Admiral Yi

#4295
February 03, 2016, 07:43:04 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on February 03, 2016, 07:35:44 PM
If Libertarians stop being crazy, I'll stop reposting.

That's what I figured.

Razgovory

#4296
February 03, 2016, 07:45:37 PM Last Edit: February 03, 2016, 08:22:31 PM by Razgovory
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on February 03, 2016, 07:23:51 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on February 03, 2016, 05:44:47 PM
Hehe.  I love the libertarians.


Millennials like Bernie Sanders and Donald J. Trump because they're delusional.

They are correct though that libertarianism has no tangible support among GOP primary voters.  All the candidates remaining are hawkish on foreign policy and hawkish on law and order, except for gun rights.  Even on economics, Cruz is really the only one running unabashedly and credibly on a shrink-the-state platform, but even he is emphasizing his social conservatism in the race.  The GOP primary candidates got the message and are keeping their "government hands" off the voters' social security.

While I am not a fan of libertarian ideology and while Rand Paul made a good run at being my least favorite candidate in the primaries (a very competitive race this year) I don't think the weakness of that faction is a big positive.  Libertarians could usually be counted on to defend civil liberties, and civil liberties are under threat.  The rhetorical bidding contest between Trump, Christie, Cruz and Rubio to slight those liberties is not pleasant to watch.

The faction of Republicans who were libertarians were never that large.  They consisted of four main groups, the true believers, the Austrians, the people who thought the X-files was a documentary, and those hated the idea of government giving money going to people who aren't white.  The last part is probably the biggest and they go for Trump.  Why bother with dog whistles and abstruse fund-cutting schemes when you have Trump "telling it like it is".  Build the wall, ban the Muslims, that black guy causing trouble, rough him up!
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Razgovory

#4297
February 03, 2016, 07:45:57 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 03, 2016, 07:43:04 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on February 03, 2016, 07:35:44 PM
If Libertarians stop being crazy, I'll stop reposting.

That's what I figured.

Did you want something else?
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Admiral Yi

#4298
February 03, 2016, 08:22:09 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on February 03, 2016, 07:45:57 PM
Did you want something else?

I wanted you to say what you mean.

Razgovory

#4299
February 03, 2016, 08:24:59 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 03, 2016, 08:22:09 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on February 03, 2016, 07:45:57 PM
Did you want something else?

I wanted you to say what you mean.

I did say what I mean.  Did you think I meant something else?
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Admiral Yi

#4300
February 03, 2016, 08:47:55 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on February 03, 2016, 08:24:59 PM
I did say what I mean.  Did you think I meant something else?

I figured you meant something else, which is why I said that's what I figured when you tried to walk back your statement.

You've been stalking "the libertarians" since forever.  I doubt it started when Skippy posted articles to your Facebook, and I doubt it will stop if he ever stops.

Razgovory

#4301
February 03, 2016, 09:27:39 PM
Yeah, but I don't normally read their bullshit.  Facebook feed gets cluttered with libertarian shit.  Some from Skip some from old school buddies.  The byline about delusion is what provoked this one.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Admiral Yi

#4303
February 03, 2016, 09:53:56 PM
Has this been mentioned yet?

Quote(CNN)Donald Trump on Wednesday accused Sen. Ted Cruz of stealing the Iowa caucuses, calling for either new voting there or the results to be nullified.

Meanwhile, Ben Carson hit CNN for what he said was an inaccurate report that he was leaving the race on Monday, even though the network only reported that he was heading home to Florida for a short break after the caucuses.

"Based on the fraud committed by Senator Ted Cruz during the Iowa Caucus, either a new election should take place or Cruz results nullified," Donald Trump wrote a Twitter, one of a series of Tweets attacking Cruz and questioning the outcome of the Iowa caucuses.

Cruz, the conservative senator from Texas, defeated Trump in Iowa Monday night.

"Ted Cruz didn't win Iowa, he stole it," Trump tweeted. "That is why all of the polls were so wrong and why he got far more votes than anticipated."

Cruz's campaign dismissed Trump's claims on Twitter with humor.

"Reality hit the reality TV star in Iowa, so nobody is talking about him now, so he's trying to regain some attention on Twitter," Cruz communications director Rick Tyler told CNN. "There are Twitter addiction support groups, so he should seek out his local chapter. "

Cruz himself teased Trump on Twitter early Wednesday afternoon, suggesting his rival become a Democrat and linking to one of his anti-Trump ads.

"Bernie is contesting #IA results. Maybe Donald should go back to IA & join the Ds. Bet they'd love #TrumpCare," Cruz tweeted.

Habbaku

#4304
February 03, 2016, 10:33:36 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on February 03, 2016, 06:58:24 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on February 03, 2016, 06:35:09 PM
Raz is the new Tim, apparently.

Got it from Skip.  If Reason articles keep appearing on my facebook wall, I'm going to post the choicest ones here.  "Millennials like Bernie Sanders and Donald J. Trump because they're delusional." was not my line, it was the byline on the Facebook link.

And because you got it from Scip, that excuses you from pulling a Tim and posting an article without any serious commentary?  What about the Breitbart articles you vomit up?  Is your posting of them someone else's fault, too?
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