2016 elections - because it's never too early

[Caliga]

i really do not want a Bush vs. Clinton election.  Can we at least try to pretend we don't have royalty here?

[Admiral Yi]

I hope Warren cuts out Clinton's uterus and serves it with fava beans.

[CountDeMoney]

I hope Warren cuts out Clinton's uterus and serves it with fava beans.

You just watch the crash highlights of NASCAR races on ESPN.  You're not a real fan.   

[garbon]

i really do not want a Bush vs. Clinton election.  Can we at least try to pretend we don't have royalty here?

Why? Who cares if we do?

[Siege]

Ted Cruz is the only dude I like so far.

[11B4V]

I hope Warren cuts out Clinton's uterus and serves it with fava beans.

You just watch the crash highlights of NASCAR races on ESPN.  You're not a real fan.   

I trust the Clinton machine will crush Warren. She's a flash in the pan.

[Martinus]

See guys? And you thought GOP candidates will not be dumb enough to make opposition to gay marriage a part of their presidential platform:

Bobby Jindal Endorses Ted Cruz's Push To Ban Same-Sex Marriage

Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal (R) said Sunday he would support an amendment to the Constitution that would enable state legislatures to outlaw same-sex marriage if the U.S. Supreme Court were to overturn various state bans.

"If the Supreme Court were to throw out our law, our constitutional amendment -- I hope they wouldn't do that -- if they were to do that, I certainly will support Ted Cruz and others that are talking about making ... a constitutional amendment to allow states to continue to define marriage," Jindal said on ABC's "This Week," referring to Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas).

Gay Americans are unable to marry the partner of their choice in more than a dozen states. Jindal's home state defines marriage as between a man and a woman, and he argued that the ban on same-sex marriage was not tantamount to intentional state-sponsored discrimination.

"I believe that marriage is between a man and a woman," Jindal said. "My faith teaches me that, my Christian faith teaches me that. I'm not for discrimination against anybody. I know that many politicians are evolving, so-called evolving on this issue based on the polls. I don't change my views based on the polls."

The Supreme Court this month said it would decide on gay-rights cases that seek to enable same-sex marriage across the country. The cases will be argued in April. A decision is expected in June.

About three dozen states allow people to marry their partners regardless of their sex. Courts in states led by Republicans have been among those calling for an end to bans on same-sex marriage.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/25/bobby-jindal-gay-marriage_n_6541920.html?ir=Gay+Voices&ncid=fcbklnkushpmg00000050

[CountDeMoney]

I trust the Clinton machine will crush Warren. She's a flash in the pan.

Populist outrage against Wall Street is never a flash in the pan.

[Sheilbh]

Romney in one article. After eight years on the national stage and two Presidential campaigns he's going to re-brand as authentic

Romney, ahead of 2016 run, now calls Utah home, talks openly about Mormon influence
By Philip Rucker January 27 at 7:00 AM 

HOLLADAY, Utah — After losing two straight presidential races, Mitt Romney packed up his home in Massachusetts and journeyed west to Utah, building a mansion here in the foothills of the Wasatch Range that has served as his sanctuary from defeat.

Here in the Salt Lake Valley, first settled by his Mormon ancestors, residents look past Romney's electoral shortcomings and revere him as a savior for rescuing the 2002 Olympics. Romney won his highest 2012 vote margin in Utah — 73 percent to President Obama's 25 percent. This is also where Romney has been pondering a potential third campaign, calling out to friends and past supporters and praying with his wife, Ann.

"He feels very at home here," said John Miller, a close friend in Utah who has been talking with Romney throughout his recent deliberations. "This is a very prayerful thing. . . . In the end, it's really a decision between he and Ann and their belief system, their God. That's the authentic Mitt."

If he runs again in 2016, ]Romney is determined to re-brand himself as authentic, warts and all, and central to that mission is making public what for so long he kept private. He rarely discussed his religious beliefs and practices in his failed 2008 and 2012 races, often confronting suspicion and bigotry with silence as his political consultants urged him to play down his Mormonism.

Now, Romney speaks openly about his service as a lay pastor in the Mormon church; recites Scripture to audiences; muses about salvation and the prophet; urges students to marry young and "have a quiver full of kids"; and even cracks jokes about Joseph Smith's polygamy.

"He has been reluctant to speak too openly on the campaign trail about his faith out of a concern that people would believe his motivation for running was based on an attempt to convert others to his faith," said Tagg Romney, the eldest of Mitt and Ann's five adult sons.

"If he were to run again," he added, "I believe he would be much more willing to open up and share who he is — not by asking others to learn the doctrines of his faith, but by speaking of the values of love and service that it has taught him."

Romney did just that in November, when he addressed the student body at Brigham Young University, which is owned by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. He talked about how his spirituality had shaped his life.

"There may be times in your life when you may feel that it is a bit of a burden being a member of the church," Romney said. "Some folks will think you're not Christian, some may be insulted that you don't drink, and others will think you're trying to be better than them by not swearing. But I can affirm this: Your fellow members of the church will be a blessing to you that far more than compensates."

In Holladay, an upscale suburb of Salt Lake City, the Romneys have built a manse complete with a "secret door" hideaway room and an outdoor spa off the master bath. They consider it their primary residence, located near their son, Josh, and his wife and children.

Together with another family, the Romneys also bought an 8,700-square-foot ski chalet in nearby Park City. They still own a lakefront estate in Wolfeboro, N.H., and a beach home in the La Jolla area of San Diego that is being renovated to include a car elevator. Last year, the Romneys sold their Boston-area condo; they stay at Tagg's Belmont, Mass., home when they visit.

Although Romney served as governor of Massachusetts and his past campaigns were based in Boston, he recently registered to vote in Utah. Members of his political circle said they are considering making Salt Lake City, the cradle of Mormonism, his 2016 campaign headquarters. Wealthy Mormons throughout the Mountain West played a central role in financing his 2012 campaign, and a 2016 bid would lean heavily on the same network.

"He was Utah's favorite adopted son, and now he's a Utahn," said Thomas Wright, a former state GOP chairman. "People here know Mitt, they trust Mitt, they respect Mitt and they still want to call him President Romney."

Other locations under preliminary discussion include Boston and Detroit, where the Romney family has roots and enjoys a strong political and financial network.

Romney has signaled that poverty would be a central theme of his next campaign. In 2012, Obama's campaign pilloried Romney by portraying him as an out-of-touch plutocrat. In national exit polling, voters who said choosing a candidate who "cares about people like me" was most important went with Obama over Romney, 81 percent to 18 percent.

But Romney's friends and family believe he could have overcome such character concerns by talking more about his church service.

"He just didn't talk enough about how he, as a man, was able to do so much to help those in need," said Sen. Orrin G. Hatch (R-Utah), who also is a Mormon. Being a volunteer bishop, as Romney was, is "a high calling in the Mormon church. You spend most of your time helping people with their problems — everything from financial problems to work problems to marital problems to sexual problems."

In recent remarks to the Republican National Committee, Romney cited his work tending to the poor, sick or otherwise needy people in his church as evidence that he could authentically carry a poverty message and connect with working- and middle-class Americans.

"In spite of the comments about the '47 percent,' he now talks about lifting the poor," said friend Fraser Bullock, referring to Romney's 2012 remarks about people dependent on government. "That's something he's done his whole life, but he's done it quietly, ministering his faith and helping people who are struggling with this issue or that issue. That was all hidden last time."

In the last campaign, Ann and Tagg Romney — as well as Bob White, Romney's close friend and a fellow Bain Capital co-founder — advocated internally for showcasing this part of Romney's biography. Testimony from members of Romney's congregation at the Republican National Convention briefly highlighted such themes, but Romney's campaign advisers felt any more attention would distract from his core economic message.

"Last time, consultants argued it was a referendum campaign and that that was what the campaign's central message should be," Tagg Romney said.

Many Romney allies said that was a fatal mistake.

"Mitt and his campaign team chose a strategy of the economy, which I think was a good one, but we're all realizing that people want to see more than that," Bullock said. "They want to see the human being behind all the positions and platforms."

While pondering a 2016 campaign, Romney has told friends he would be true to who he is, and that includes a heavy focus on religion. As one former senior campaign official, who requested anonymity to speak candidly, put it, "Mitt is not afraid of being a loser losing."

Mark DeMoss, an evangelical Christian who has helped Romney navigate faith politics for the past decade, said that Mormonism is "a tremendously important part of his narrative" and that "he ought to share his life's narrative the way he wants to and not according to some political calculus of campaign consultants."

The Romney team sees "Mitt," the 2014 Netflix documentary, as a model for the kind of image they hope to project. The film reveals Romney's flashes of raw emotion, both joy and anguish — kneeling down in prayer, comforting his crying wife in his lap and scooping up his grandkids in monster hugs.

"I always felt that there was this secret that I had," said Greg Whiteley, the film's director. "I'd tell my friends: 'Wait till you see this footage. He really is a different guy.' So if being more candid about his religion is helping to bridge that gap, I think that's a great thing."

People close to Romney said he is motivated to run again partly by an obligation to his country and his church, though they discounted the notion that he feels a divine calling.

"I don't think he sits there and says, 'God wants me to part the Red Sea and, darn it, it hasn't happened twice, but it'll happen the third time,' " the former campaign official said. "Although Mitt would make a good Moses. Think about it."

Robert Costa and Alice Crites in Washington contributed to this report.

[CountDeMoney]

He's an authentically rich douchebag cult member.  By all means, Mitt, be more authentic.  Because there just aren't enough authentic rich douchebag cult members running around.

[Caliga]

He just doesn't get it and he never will.  That's why everyone liked Bubba so much... he actually knew what it was like to be po'.

[Jacob]

He's an authentically rich douchebag cult member.  By all means, Mitt, be more authentic.  Because there just aren't enough authentic rich douchebag cult members running around.

Also, "Mitt would make a good Moses. Think about it."

[Sheilbh]

He's just a consultant to his very bones. He can analyse any situation very successfully and normally come up with some sort of solution that should, in theory, work. Sadly he's never realised that he himself can't just be a brand that can be changed and that voters have memories.

2008 he branded himself as the movement conservative candidate (rightly spotting a gap in the market), in 2012 the sensible candidate (again another gap in the market) and now as an authentic candidate. Voters aren't stupid

[garbon]

2008 he branded himself as the movement conservative candidate (rightly spotting a gap in the market), in 2012 the sensible candidate (again another gap in the market) and now as an authentic candidate. Voters aren't stupid

I'm no fan of the man, but I don't really care about the drapery and posing in a campaign when it comes to voting.

[Sheilbh]

That's not drapery and posing though the question of who this guy is matters. Fundamentally you're voting for a man who he campaigns as is normally not that far from who they'll govern as. It's difficult to know if you can't actually get a sense of who that man is, so dessicated and focus-grouped and pre-thought are their every move.

I've always thought there could be a place for an authentic Mitt campaign. A successful, moderate governor in a blue state who worked with the other side and a man who's deepest values are from his religion, not fake movement conservatism (the bit at the convention with members of his Church was, by some distance, the high point of his campaign). The trouble is after having spent eight years running away from that it's difficult for him to now say this was the authentic Mitt all along.