2016 elections - because it's never too early

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garbon

Quote from: celedhring on October 14, 2016, 11:23:10 AM
Is early voting something a campaign should worry about though? The profile of voter that votes nearly a month in advance is somebody who's already pretty assured of his/her choice to begin with.

The issue isn't about winning them over, just that game changers here are a lot less important. You need narrative shifts prior to this time period.

I'm not sure what 'begin with' means as an early voter is just someone who made their decision by this month and wants to get it out of the way.
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alfred russel

Quote from: celedhring on October 14, 2016, 11:23:10 AM
Is early voting something a campaign should worry about though? The profile of voter that votes nearly a month in advance is somebody who's already pretty assured of his/her choice to begin with.

I only have the story of my father to go off of (florida voter). In the primaries, was so anti trump he switched his registration to republican and early voted for...Kasich. Total wasted vote, as florida was winner take all and rubio was more competitive. On election day he wished he could take his vote back.

He tells me he will vote for Johnson because he doesn't like Clinton. My guess is that if the election was super close and florida highly competitive, he might switch to Clinton if he doesn't early vote as he thinks trump is totally unacceptable.
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CountDeMoney

Early voting tends to skew Democrat, absentee/overseas ballots tend to favor GOP.  Although there aren't as many deployed servicemen now as there were in 2004 or 2008.

FunkMonk

Quote from: garbon on October 14, 2016, 11:43:11 AM
Quote from: celedhring on October 14, 2016, 11:23:10 AM
Is early voting something a campaign should worry about though? The profile of voter that votes nearly a month in advance is somebody who's already pretty assured of his/her choice to begin with.

The issue isn't about winning them over, just that game changers here are a lot less important. You need narrative shifts prior to this time period.

I'm not sure what 'begin with' means as an early voter is just someone who made their decision by this month and wants to get it out of the way.

Also, from what I've heard and read about, the Hillary campaign has made a priority of getting people to vote early or by absentee ballot this election. The Trump campaign has not done anything. I sincerely doubt their voter registration drives are doing better than Hillary's, too.

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Jacob

Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 14, 2016, 11:42:47 AM
I do not discount the firepower of a fully ARMED and OPERATIONAL Dumbfuckistan.
It's not over.

Russian hackers. Active voter suppression. Assassination... I wouldn't be surprised if something crazy happened between now and Nov 8th.

I mean, you've got people "protesting" in front of a Democratic campaign office while open carrying. It doesn't seem that far from something more tragic happening: https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-supporter-armed-protest-dem

Syt

Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 14, 2016, 11:42:47 AM
I do not discount the firepower of a fully ARMED and OPERATIONAL Dumbfuckistan.
It's not over.

I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
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FunkMonk


Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 14, 2016, 11:42:47 AM
I do not discount the firepower of a fully ARMED and OPERATIONAL Dumbfuckistan.
It's not over.


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Berkut

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Berkut

If we all write in "None of the Above" can we just have a do over where neither of these two yahoos is allowed to run again?
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alfred russel

Quote from: Berkut on October 14, 2016, 02:12:37 PM
If we all write in "None of the Above" can we just have a do over where neither of these two yahoos is allowed to run again?

Yes, if you spell it "Johnson".
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

There's a fine line between salvation and drinking poison in the jungle.

I'm embarrassed. I've been making the mistake of associating with you. It won't happen again. :)
-garbon, February 23, 2014

Syt

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2016/oct/14/trump-women-sexual-misconduct-election-live?page=with:block-58012728e4b01ffb8ffcbb87#block-58012728e4b01ffb8ffcbb87

QuoteThe Apprentice contestant accuses Donald Trump of 'sexual misconduct'

In a press conference with high-profile attorney Gloria Allred, Summer Zervos, a contestant on the fifth season of The Apprentice, became the latest woman to accuse Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump of sexual misconduct.

As Trump derided the more than a dozen women who have accused him of sexual impropriety of doing so "for money and sometimes for fame" in a rally in North Carolina, Zervos described through tears pursuing employment with the Trump Organization after her time as a contestant on Trump's reality show.

"I had the utmost admiration for Mr. Trump, and even after I was fired, I continued to see him as a possible mentor and potential employer," Zervos, a self-described Republican, said.

In 2007, two years after Zervos appeared on The Apprentice and two years after Trump married his third wife, Zervos alleged that she met with Trump for dinner in New York City, whereupon "he kissed me on the lips," a behavior Zervos alleged that he repeated at the end of the dinner. After discussing the kisses with family and friends, Zervos said, "we came to the conclusion that this was undoubtedly just some sort of greeting."

"He said that he would love to have me work for him," Zervos said. "Mr. Trump said he would be coming to Los Angeles soon and he would contact me."

A few weeks later, Zervos said she was invited to meet Trump at the Beverly Hills Hotel.

"I assumed we were going to a restaurant in his hotel. Instead, we were escorted to a bungalow," Zervos said. Upon entering, "I saw Mr. Trump's clothes on the bed. He greeted me with a 'hello' in a sing-song voice."

Fifteen minutes later, Zervos alleged that Trump entered the room, in his suit, and began kissing her.

"He started kissing me open-mouthed as he started pulling me towards him," Zervos said. "He then grabbed my shoulder and began kissing me aggressively and placed his hand on my breast."

When Zervos resisted, she said, he pulled her back towards him.

"He then turned me around and said, let's lay down and watch some telly-telly," Zervos said. "I said, 'come on man, get real.' He repeated my words back at me - get real - and began thrusting his genitals."

When Zervos reiterated that she was only there to have dinner, she said, Trump acted angrily and told her that she "did not know love, or had ever been in love."

Through tears, Zervos told reporters: "I wondered if the sexual behavior was some kind of test, and whether or not I had passed."

After attempting to gain employment through the Trump Organization, despite the alleged harassment, Zervos said that she was told to "never again use his private number, and if I wanted to reach him, I should contact him through his office."

Describing the "great deal of pain and anguish" seeing Trump on television during the presidential campaign, Zervos said that she reached out a final time to Trump's secretary in April 2016 to "clear the air."

"I had no idea about his behavior with other women at the time," Zervos said, in reference to numerous other allegations of sexual impropriety against Trump that have broken in the past week.

Sending an email to Trump, Zervos said: "Your interest in me as a potential employee meant the world to me."

"Mr. Trump did not reply."

Directly addressing Trump, Zervos described the humiliation of being treated "as an object to be hit upon."

"You were interested in me only because you wanted to have a sexual relationship with me, and for no other reason," Zervos said. "I felt I had to speak out about your behavior."

"You do not have the right to treat women as sexual objects just because you are a star."

I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
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Syt

QuoteDonald Trump, on President Barack Obama:
Why doesn't some woman say what they say about me about him?


:huh:
I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

mongers

I propose November 9th be made National Say Something Positive About Trump Day.
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garbon

Quote from: Berkut on October 14, 2016, 02:12:37 PM
If we all write in "None of the Above" can we just have a do over where neither of these two yahoos is allowed to run again?

I don't know why I'd want that. :huh:
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I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.