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2016 elections - because it's never too early

Started by merithyn, May 09, 2013, 07:37:45 AM

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Martinus

To me Trump seems pretty centrist. He is definitely more centrist than Cruz.

Valmy

Quote from: Martinus on May 06, 2016, 11:01:08 AM
To me Trump seems pretty centrist. He is definitely more centrist than Cruz.

What issues is he centrist on? The guy wants to wreck our trade policies, double down on our immigration idiocy, and his tax policies are every bit as out of touch with reality as Cruz's. His are much more dangerous than Sander's idiocy though, since he might actually get something passed.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

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Martinus

And I used (possibly misused) the expression "establishment stooge" to mean basically a representative of establishment with a slight negative tinge.

Barrister

Quote from: Martinus on May 06, 2016, 11:01:08 AM
To me Trump seems pretty centrist. He is definitely more centrist than Cruz.

Meowtf?

In what way is cancelling trade deals, deporting all illegal immigrants immediately, building a giant wall with Mexico, and banning Muslims from entering the US, centrist positions?
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Martinus

Quote from: Valmy on May 06, 2016, 11:03:36 AM
Quote from: Martinus on May 06, 2016, 11:01:08 AM
To me Trump seems pretty centrist. He is definitely more centrist than Cruz.

What issues is he centrist on? The guy wants to wreck our trade policies, double down on our immigration idiocy, and his tax policies are every bit as out of touch with reality as Cruz's. His are much more dangerous than Sander's idiocy though, since he might actually get something passed.

Someone isn't a centrist only because you disagree with his policies, Valmy.

Valmy

Quote from: Martinus on May 06, 2016, 11:07:47 AM
Someone isn't a centrist only because you disagree with his policies, Valmy.

Alright. We need a non-radical idiot party. If self-destructive irresponsible radicalism can be considered centrist then I need a new word.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

CountDeMoney

You guys have to remember, this is Marti the Eastern European we're talking about.
Anything short of cattle cars, camps and ovens is "centrist."

Martinus

He is a populist I'll give you that but his policies, when taken on a whole are neither awfully conservative or awfully socialist. So a centrist. :P

Eddie Teach

Quote from: Martinus on May 06, 2016, 11:11:14 AM
when taken on a whole are neither awfully conservative or awfully socialist.

But just awful.
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Valmy

Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Duque de Bragança

Quote from: Valmy on May 06, 2016, 11:32:17 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on May 06, 2016, 11:31:19 AM
But just awful.

:thumbsup:

Anyway still two months to go of endless Primaries.

So enjoy them while you can. :) French primaries on the left or on the right won't be as colourful. ;)

Valmy

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Quote from: Duque de Bragança on May 06, 2016, 11:36:47 AM
French primaries on the left or on the right won't be as colourful. ;)

Crazy socialists and populists are too normal in France.

Edit: Wait Juppé is favored to win? I thought he was convicted of corruption charges back in the day  :lol:
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Admiral Yi

Deporting all illegals is pretty right wing.  Building a wall is pretty right wing.  Getting Mexico to pay for it is just crackpot.

Tearing up trade deals could be either left wing or right wing, but it certainly isn't centrist.

Razgovory

I'd say he's right wing, but not conservative right wing.
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DGuller

Quote from: Razgovory on May 06, 2016, 11:51:56 AM
I'd say he's right wing, but not conservative right wing.
He's a mess, ideologically and otherwise.  He's got no coherent ideology, just a bunch of thoughts that enter his head.