First 3-D-printed gun fired, but its digital blueprints make bigger bang

[11B4V]

A lot of this is also mental masturbation.  We know what round was put in there, but what we don't know is the muzzle energy of this gun.

Muzzle energy of the gun??? Depends on what cartridge the "gun" is shooting 

Velocity of Bullet
Weight of bullet.

Was said it was a .380 right? Standard factory loaded round right?  With a 90-95gr bullet at about 950-1000 fps thats in the neighborhoood of 190-200 foot pounds at the muzzle.

[The Brain]

Is a plastic nuke dangerous enough for Mr. Nut?

[11B4V]

Is a plastic nuke dangerous enough for Mr. Nut?

Dont know.

[CountDeMoney]

Well if you are smuggling a plastic gun around the idea is to get it inside of a secured area.  In that case you will probably be firing at point blank range since they will not be expecting you to have a weapon.

It's just going to be the zip gun of the 21st century.  Doesn't need range or firepower or any of the other characteristics that gets derspiess to roll over and annoy the wife when it's not even his birthday.

I also think the idea a knife would be more effective is rather absurd, it takes a bit more skill and physical strength to take somebody down with a blade than it does to point a gun and pull the trigger.

I dunno about that.  I always heard the refrain "run from a knife, close on a gun" in training.  A knife'll kill you quicker than dogshit, and it doesn't need to be expertly wielded, either.   You can bleed out before you even realize you were stuck.

[Valmy]

I dunno about that.  I always heard the refrain "run from a knife, close on a gun" in training.  A knife'll kill you quicker than dogshit, and it doesn't need to be expertly wielded, either.   You can bleed out before you even realize you were stuck.

That a fact?  Their lethality is pretty evident in stats (they are always a strong second behind handguns) but as somebody who has never killed anybody I know what I would rather have, even at close range.

[derspiess]

A lot of this is also mental masturbation.  We know what round was put in there, but what we don't know is the muzzle energy of this gun.

Muzzle energy of the gun??? Depends on what cartridge the "gun" is shooting 

Velocity of Bullet
Weight of bullet.

Was said it was a .380 right? Standard factory loaded round right?  With a 90-95gr bullet at about 950-1000 fps thats in the neighborhoood of 190-200 foot pounds at the muzzle.

But I'd have to think it's going to be less than that coming from a short plastic smoothbore barrel.

[CountDeMoney]

I dunno about that.  I always heard the refrain "run from a knife, close on a gun" in training.  A knife'll kill you quicker than dogshit, and it doesn't need to be expertly wielded, either.   You can bleed out before you even realize you were stuck.

That a fact?  Their lethality is pretty evident in stats (they are always a strong second behind handguns) but as somebody who has never killed anybody I know what I would rather have, even at close range.

Guns can miss, jam, scare the shit out of whoever's shooting it and get dropped and in close enough proximity, you can even disable one if you're a Green Beanie ninja.  But fuck that blade shit.  I've known guys that didn't even feel it go in and out until it was all over.  Hey, who's blood is this? *drop*

[11B4V]

Dudes doing pretty good with a knife against multiple cops.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqMgG_FI2gI

The original clip
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75RTkGbiJpk

[Neil]

Remember that thread a seven or eight years back about some retard in Winnipeg who brought a knife to a fight with the cops, and then people were outraged when the cops put three in his chest?  All the bleeding hearts were like 'couldn't they have just shot the knife out of his hand?'

[11B4V]

A lot of this is also mental masturbation.  We know what round was put in there, but what we don't know is the muzzle energy of this gun.

Muzzle energy of the gun??? Depends on what cartridge the "gun" is shooting 

Velocity of Bullet
Weight of bullet.

Was said it was a .380 right? Standard factory loaded round right?  With a 90-95gr bullet at about 950-1000 fps thats in the neighborhoood of 190-200 foot pounds at the muzzle.

But I'd have to think it's going to be less than that coming from a short plastic smoothbore barrel.

That's from a 3" barrel. Smooth or rifled is really irrelevant at PB range. Besides, all things being equal, a smoothbore would be faster in terms of velocity. Less accurate, however.

[Berkut]

Dudes doing pretty good with a knife against multiple cops.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqMgG_FI2gI

The original clip
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75RTkGbiJpk

Damn, that is fucked up.

[11B4V]

Besides, I think the a study came up with 65-80 foot pounds to kill a man. I would have to look around to find a link when I got time. Might have been a military study.

[11B4V]

Dudes doing pretty good with a knife against multiple cops.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqMgG_FI2gI

The original clip
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75RTkGbiJpk

Damn, that is fucked up.

A suspect with a ready knife is a scary thing.

[Barrister]

I dunno about that.  I always heard the refrain "run from a knife, close on a gun" in training.  A knife'll kill you quicker than dogshit, and it doesn't need to be expertly wielded, either.   You can bleed out before you even realize you were stuck.

That a fact?  Their lethality is pretty evident in stats (they are always a strong second behind handguns) but as somebody who has never killed anybody I know what I would rather have, even at close range.

Guns can miss, jam, scare the shit out of whoever's shooting it and get dropped and in close enough proximity, you can even disable one if you're a Green Beanie ninja.  But fuck that blade shit.  I've known guys that didn't even feel it go in and out until it was all over.  Hey, who's blood is this? *drop*

I'm not quite sure what's being debated here.

Blades can absolutely be dangerous.  And totally agree you might not even feel it.  One of my favourite war stories was the guy who was having a birthday party, and wound up inviting a bunch of people he didn't know over to his house after the bar closed.  One of these guys was playing with his replica samurai sword.  So homeowner takes the sword and gently pokes the guy with the tip saying "don't touch my stuff".  No one thought anything of it at the time until 5 minutes later when the guy collapsed - his heart had been nicked.

Agree with the "run from a knife, but close to a gun", but I'd still rather deal with a knife weilding maniac than a gun weilding one, since I'd put more trust in my ability to run away than my ability to wrestle the gun out of the guys hand.

[CountDeMoney]

I'm not quite sure what's being debated here.

That's because we're not really debating anything, counselor.  We're having a conversation.  We can do that without debate.