Killing Texans

[crazy canuck]

Why does Canada want to stifle business?

Why does the US want to stifle life?

[sbr]

It's the American way.

Unless a brown person can be blamed, then it's srs bsnss.

[Jacob]

That is troubling.  In Canada health and saftey regulation falls mainly within the jurisdiction of the Provinces - unless it is a Federal Undertaking. Dont ask what that is, the answer gets a bit long.

In this Province these sorts of things would normally be met with fines and potential criminal prosecution (under the Provincial Statute) for the directors of the company if any death or injury occurred because of the violations.

Yeah, that is troubling.

Though I still have faith that if the place HVC worked actually blew up and killed a bunch of people, that would be a major scandal leading to new legislation, more stringent enforcement across the board, some sort of inquiry, and most likely several people losing their jobs.

[viper37]

I don't think it much different in Canada. Over 6 years I've had 2 jobs in manufacturing plants. Not explosives, but dangerous heavy machinery and huge potential for fires. I've yet to see any inspection. The closest  I can think of was at my last place. Regulators called asking if we had put up guarding on the machinery. We said nope. They said regulations have been in place and we should have had guarding up for five years. We said were working on it. They said let us know when you're done   then there was the unventilated painting line, which sucked. Paint came with giant warning about the health hazard of the fumes. Oh, and the welding line was right next to it   Safe!

They're all in Quebec checking construction site, inspecting ladders and other trivial issues.

[HVC]

I don't think it much different in Canada. Over 6 years I've had 2 jobs in manufacturing plants. Not explosives, but dangerous heavy machinery and huge potential for fires. I've yet to see any inspection. The closest  I can think of was at my last place. Regulators called asking if we had put up guarding on the machinery. We said nope. They said regulations have been in place and we should have had guarding up for five years. We said were working on it. They said let us know when you're done   then there was the unventilated painting line, which sucked. Paint came with giant warning about the health hazard of the fumes. Oh, and the welding line was right next to it   Safe!

They're all in Quebec checking construction site, inspecting ladders and other trivial issues.

oh construction gets scrutinized heavily here too. But usually by the unions trying slow down construction by storms of paper to extort the building company. 

[HVC]

As for my experience its only a sample size of 2, maybe they've just fallen through the cracks.

[The Brain]

Has Jim Stone explained what really happened?

[dps]

The plant had 1,350 times the legally allowed amount of highly explosive ammonium nitrate, yet hadn't informed the Department of Homeland Security of the danger.

That's sort of like saying someone has been robbing convenience stores for years, yet hadn't informed the local police department.  Of course most people doing something illegal don't report themselves to the authorities.  D'oh.

[The Brain]

The plant had 1,350 times the legally allowed amount of highly explosive ammonium nitrate, yet hadn't informed the Department of Homeland Security of the danger.

That's sort of like saying someone has been robbing convenience stores for years, yet hadn't informed the local police department.  Of course most people doing something illegal don't report themselves to the authorities.  D'oh.

I don't follow.

[dps]

The plant had 1,350 times the legally allowed amount of highly explosive ammonium nitrate, yet hadn’t informed the Department of Homeland Security of the danger.

That's sort of like saying someone has been robbing convenience stores for years, yet hadn't informed the local police department.  Of course most people doing something illegal don't report themselves to the authorities.  D'oh.

I don't follow.

So, you consider yourself a natural leader?

[The Brain]

The plant had 1,350 times the legally allowed amount of highly explosive ammonium nitrate, yet hadn't informed the Department of Homeland Security of the danger.

That's sort of like saying someone has been robbing convenience stores for years, yet hadn't informed the local police department.  Of course most people doing something illegal don't report themselves to the authorities.  D'oh.

I don't follow.

So, you consider yourself a natural leader?

Not natural, no.

[frunk]

That's sort of like saying someone has been robbing convenience stores for years, yet hadn't informed the local police department.  Of course most people doing something illegal don't report themselves to the authorities.  D'oh.

I doubt anyone will go to prison for this nearly as long as if they had robbed a convenience store.

[dps]

That's sort of like saying someone has been robbing convenience stores for years, yet hadn't informed the local police department.  Of course most people doing something illegal don't report themselves to the authorities.  D'oh.

I doubt anyone will go to prison for this nearly as long as if they had robbed a convenience store.

Frankly, I'd be surprised if anyone goes to prison for it at all.

[MadImmortalMan]

What's the legally allowed amount of ammonium nitrate?

[Razgovory]

What's the legally allowed amount of ammonium nitrate?

The West Fertilizer company plant's inventory divided by 1,350.