Why does the Western world tolerate Pitcairn?

Started by Martinus, April 25, 2013, 08:26:30 AM

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Martinus

Apparently child abuse and other crimes are ubiquitous there. Why won't Britain or Australia just claim the island and put perpetrators in prison?

Valmy

Aren't there like 50 people on that island?  I suspect we tolerate because it is so remote and insignificant.
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Quote from: Martinus on April 25, 2013, 08:26:30 AM
Apparently child abuse and other crimes are ubiquitous there. Why won't Britain or Australia just claim the island and put perpetrators in prison?

What the hell are you talking about?  It's an island with like 50 people on it.  And it's already owned by Britain.
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Viking

Well, britain did fly in a court, hold a trial, build a prison and issue a new constitution. Short of quartering red-coats in homes with children, what do you want them to do?
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A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

Lettow77

Was this created completely to throw the numbers for the "What contrived problem will Martinus feel outraged over next" pool?
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Razgovory

I do wonder what Marty read that provoked this.
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PDH

Quote from: Viking on April 25, 2013, 08:31:28 AM
Well, britain did fly in a court, hold a trial, build a prison and issue a new constitution. Short of quartering red-coats in homes with children, what do you want them to do?

They didn't fly in anyone.  Pitcairn doesn't have an airport or a suitable place for a harbor.  Instead the islanders ferry in people on a nice big lifeboat kind of thing.  Yeah, I saw it in 1987, none of us went ashore it was too stormy there - we just sailed off.
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Tamas

Quote from: Martinus on April 25, 2013, 08:26:30 AM
Apparently child abuse and other crimes are ubiquitous there. Why won't Britain or Australia just claim the island and put perpetrators in prison?

maybe they should direct a few movies to gain acceptance

Viking

Quote from: PDH on April 25, 2013, 08:39:18 AM
Quote from: Viking on April 25, 2013, 08:31:28 AM
Well, britain did fly in a court, hold a trial, build a prison and issue a new constitution. Short of quartering red-coats in homes with children, what do you want them to do?

They didn't fly in anyone.  Pitcairn doesn't have an airport or a suitable place for a harbor.  Instead the islanders ferry in people on a nice big lifeboat kind of thing.  Yeah, I saw it in 1987, none of us went ashore it was too stormy there - we just sailed off.

OK, they sailed in a court... that is just so much more of an effort.
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

Josquius

What viking says, they don't tolerate it, it was a huge scandal, a pretty major court case.
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garbon

Quote from: Lettow77 on April 25, 2013, 08:32:49 AM
Was this created completely to throw the numbers for the "What contrived problem will Martinus feel outraged over next" pool?

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Quote from: Viking on April 25, 2013, 08:43:52 AM
OK, they sailed in a court... that is just so much more of an effort.

That was my point.  It is incredibly remote, when the allegations in the early 2000s were found out there were trials and all that.  There may well be more problems now, but that very remoteness makes things far harder.

Maybe they can airdrop in the Polish Gay Legal Justice team, I don't know.
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fhdz

Quote from: Razgovory on April 25, 2013, 08:38:43 AM
I do wonder what Marty read that provoked this.

I bet someone insulted a gay person there.
and the horse you rode in on

Viking

Quote from: fahdiz on April 25, 2013, 10:28:55 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on April 25, 2013, 08:38:43 AM
I do wonder what Marty read that provoked this.

I bet someone insulted a gay person there.

Probably found out that Fletcher Christian



wasn't ghey.
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.