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Started by Ideologue, April 17, 2013, 09:55:59 PM

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Worth a damn?  Obviously not, but U-DECIDE

Still taught in HS and financed as non-teaching college degrees (status quo)
18 (45%)
Still taught in HS, not financed as non-teaching college degrees
4 (10%)
Not taught in HS... then we don't need specialized teaching degrees, now do we?
2 (5%)
I believe that all education is a benefit to hahahaha just kidding who would vote for this option?
11 (27.5%)
Only fund such degrees as offered at JIB University
2 (5%)
Other
3 (7.5%)

Total Members Voted: 40

CountDeMoney

Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on April 21, 2013, 09:45:39 AM
So Ide, not to make this thread entirely about your career troubles, but having a law degree if you wanted to setup shop for yourself in some strip mall doing criminal defense for DUIs and suing businesses when people fall on the floor of their store how much money could you make at that?

What's more, you're your own boss.  I've known a lot of these types, and while some only make an average living, they make their own hours and fuck their paralegals.

Then again, there are always a ton of NPOs screaming for entry-level counsel.  They don't make much, but Ide could find one that aligns with his passions and follows work that leads to personal fulfillment and a sense of accomplishment.  And after a few years, he can then go the government or corporate route, and then make the really big bucks crushing his former NPO.

Ed Anger

Ide needs 4 years in the Navy.
Stay Alive...Let the Man Drive

CountDeMoney


Ed Anger

We don't need Ide with a gun.
Stay Alive...Let the Man Drive

11B4V

Quote from: Ed Anger on April 21, 2013, 11:05:51 AM
Ide needs 4 years in the Navy.

That would've paid for his liberal arts degree.
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Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 21, 2013, 11:03:38 AM

Then again, there are always a ton of NPOs screaming for entry-level counsel.  They don't make much, but Ide could find one that aligns with his passions

The Anarcho-Syndicalist Committee for the Promotion of Fucking Anorexic Chicks.

Admiral Yi

Quote from: Tyr on April 21, 2013, 07:41:18 AM
How on earth does one even invest when we're talking about such small sums

Mutual fund.  Their whole raison d'etre is put small, incremental amounts into the market.

Phillip V

"Engineering salaries rose, on average, 4% over the previous year to $62,535, but other industries saw larger increases. Those majoring in health sciences will see a 9.4% increase over last year, while business majors’ salaries will rise 7.1%.

The grads seeing the smallest pay bump are humanities and social-science majors, whose starting salaries inched up 1.9%, to $37,058."

http://blogs.wsj.com/atwork/2013/04/29/and-the-highest-paid-college-majors-are/

Top 10 majors, with starting salaries:

Petroleum Engineering: $93,500

Computer Engineering: $71,700

Chemical Engineering: $67,600

Computer Science: $64,800

Aerospace/Aeronautical/Astronautical Engineering: $64,400

Mechanical Engineering: $64,000

Electrical/Electronics and Communications Engineering: $63,400

Management Information Systems/Business: $63,100

Engineering Technology: $62,200

Finance: $57,400


Caliga

I find some of those starting salaries impossible to believe, unless they were only polling people working in Manhattan, Silicon Valley, Chicago, etc.
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fhdz

Quote from: Caliga on April 29, 2013, 12:36:45 PM
I find some of those starting salaries impossible to believe, unless they were only polling people working in Manhattan, Silicon Valley, Chicago, etc.

I think those are median salary values.
and the horse you rode in on

CountDeMoney

The days of engineering types running major companies are over.  They'll get to a certain level of leadership, but that's all.  The Big Cheeses in tech sectors wind up being the humanities types.  Hell, even hospitals aren't run by doctors anymore.

MadImmortalMan

Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 29, 2013, 12:57:51 PM
The days of engineering types running major companies are over.

That's a great tell for when a company's "growth" period ends. When the engineer who started it gets replaced by some person of a different field.
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Caliga

Quote from: MadImmortalMan on April 29, 2013, 01:10:07 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 29, 2013, 12:57:51 PM
The days of engineering types running major companies are over.

That's a great tell for when a company's "growth" period ends. When the engineer who started it gets replaced by some person of a different field.
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CountDeMoney

Quote from: MadImmortalMan on April 29, 2013, 01:10:07 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 29, 2013, 12:57:51 PM
The days of engineering types running major companies are over.

That's a great tell for when a company's "growth" period ends. When the engineer who started it gets replaced by some person of a different field.

Ahhyup.  20 years ago, your local power company was probably run by somebody who started off climbing poles or worked a control room 20 years earlier.  Not anymore.

fhdz

Quote from: MadImmortalMan on April 29, 2013, 01:10:07 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 29, 2013, 12:57:51 PM
The days of engineering types running major companies are over.

That's a great tell for when a company's "growth" period ends. When the engineer who started it gets replaced by some person of a different field.

The "downward" period begins when instead of hiring a humanities visionary they promote their CFO to CEO.
and the horse you rode in on