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Started by Ideologue, April 17, 2013, 09:55:59 PM

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Worth a damn?  Obviously not, but U-DECIDE

Still taught in HS and financed as non-teaching college degrees (status quo)
18 (45%)
Still taught in HS, not financed as non-teaching college degrees
4 (10%)
Not taught in HS... then we don't need specialized teaching degrees, now do we?
2 (5%)
I believe that all education is a benefit to hahahaha just kidding who would vote for this option?
11 (27.5%)
Only fund such degrees as offered at JIB University
2 (5%)
Other
3 (7.5%)

Total Members Voted: 40

mongers

Ide, just emigrate, there may even be a land of thin chicks out there, somewhere ?  :D
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I think Canada requires 250k in assets to emigrate there. A bitchin' DVD collection won't qualify.
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Quote from: fahdiz on April 20, 2013, 01:13:50 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on April 20, 2013, 09:40:59 AM
Quote from: Ideologue on April 19, 2013, 11:00:47 PM
No, my interest rates are not 3.4%.

My mortgage rate is 3.25%.  :hmm:

That's an excellent rate!
2.99 here. Then again there's only a small portion left over so that's probably how i got max discretion.
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Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 17, 2013, 10:14:54 PM
I proposed something similar earlier: remove all government financial aid and loans and loan guarantees for majors that are not immediately marketable.  Let rich kids take humanities.
:yes: Liberal arts is a spice of life, but you can't feed yourself just with spices.

11B4V

Quote from: DGuller on April 20, 2013, 10:01:59 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 17, 2013, 10:14:54 PM
I proposed something similar earlier: remove all government financial aid and loans and loan guarantees for majors that are not immediately marketable.  Let rich kids take humanities.
:yes: Liberal arts is a spice of life, but you can't feed yourself just with spices.

Then why would you get a degree in it?
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

DGuller

Quote from: fahdiz on April 18, 2013, 11:50:55 AM
And perhaps those folks with "useless" humanities degrees might have the critical thinking skills to enable them to be great tradesmen as opposed to good tradesmen.
Yes, because getting a humanities degree without job prospects really shows how critical your thinking skills are.

Razgovory

I'm not entirely sure what a liberal arts degree even entails.  I know what a medieval liberal education was like.  There were seven subjects.  Grammar, Rhetoric, Arithmetic, geometry, logic, astrology, and music.  Music was actually more mathematics, I think it involved ratios and fractions.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Razgovory

Quote from: 11B4V on April 20, 2013, 10:07:29 PM
Quote from: DGuller on April 20, 2013, 10:01:59 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 17, 2013, 10:14:54 PM
I proposed something similar earlier: remove all government financial aid and loans and loan guarantees for majors that are not immediately marketable.  Let rich kids take humanities.
:yes: Liberal arts is a spice of life, but you can't feed yourself just with spices.

Then why would you get a degree in it?

Simply having a degree is helpful in the job market.  My dad is a programmer, but got a degree in Psychology which he credits with helping him get a better position.  Not because of knowledge of psychology, but simply because having a piece of paper that says you went to college gives you a leg up.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

DGuller

Quote from: The Brain on April 18, 2013, 03:25:53 PM
Spending some tax money on the liberal arts up to and including HS level seems to me to make sense. Beyond that not so much. How to put this... people who study liberal arts at university are not very bright and what they produce is pretty crappy.
I wouldn't put it like that, but I'm glad someone else did.  :). I'm not sure where the notion that liberal arts gives you critical thinking skills is coming from anyway.  In my college experience, liberal arts students were very uncritical liberal drones.

11B4V

Quote from: Razgovory on April 20, 2013, 10:20:26 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on April 20, 2013, 10:07:29 PM
Quote from: DGuller on April 20, 2013, 10:01:59 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 17, 2013, 10:14:54 PM
I proposed something similar earlier: remove all government financial aid and loans and loan guarantees for majors that are not immediately marketable.  Let rich kids take humanities.
:yes: Liberal arts is a spice of life, but you can't feed yourself just with spices.

Then why would you get a degree in it?

Simply having a degree is helpful in the job market. 

Yes, I know that. Why a humanities degree though?

"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

Phillip V

Quote from: Razgovory on April 20, 2013, 10:20:26 PM
Simply having a degree is helpful in the job market.  My dad is a programmer, but got a degree in Psychology which he credits with helping him get a better position.  Not because of knowledge of psychology, but simply because having a piece of paper that says you went to college gives you a leg up.

Those were the good ole days.

Razgovory

Quote from: 11B4V on April 20, 2013, 10:24:31 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on April 20, 2013, 10:20:26 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on April 20, 2013, 10:07:29 PM
Quote from: DGuller on April 20, 2013, 10:01:59 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 17, 2013, 10:14:54 PM
I proposed something similar earlier: remove all government financial aid and loans and loan guarantees for majors that are not immediately marketable.  Let rich kids take humanities.
:yes: Liberal arts is a spice of life, but you can't feed yourself just with spices.

Then why would you get a degree in it?

Simply having a degree is helpful in the job market. 

Yes, I know that. Why a humanities degree though?

Maybe cause it's easy?   I don't know.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

DGuller

Quote from: Jacob on April 19, 2013, 07:56:35 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on April 19, 2013, 07:10:26 PM
How much is $200 a month in your earliest earning years going to be worth if invested and compounded over your career?

Who the fuck invests $200/month of their earliest earnings?
:blush:

11B4V

Quote from: DGuller on April 20, 2013, 10:29:10 PM
Quote from: Jacob on April 19, 2013, 07:56:35 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on April 19, 2013, 07:10:26 PM
How much is $200 a month in your earliest earning years going to be worth if invested and compounded over your career?

Who the fuck invests $200/month of their earliest earnings?
:blush:

Seems rather smart to me.
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".