If near half of the world GDP is hidden in tax havens, what are we arguing about

[Razgovory]

Polish state repeatedly refuses to recognize same sex unions. Thus, as a second class citizen, I don't feel obliged to pay first-class taxes.

Ah, the age old excuse of the tax dodging hypocrite.  If the State would only do what you think it should then you would pay more taxes but until then you will compain if others dont.

Put this one on the vast pile of your double standards.

Not really. I pay much higher taxes anyway than I would have if I was married to my partner and we benefited from the same taxation scheme as married couples. We also cannot benefit from many other tax breaks. It's not about the state doing what I think it should, but about the state putting me in a worse position, tax-wise, specifically because of my sexual orientation.

But you wouldn't be married anyway...

[Grey Fox]

Quebec's deficit for this year, the real one, not the PQ fake estimate with bogus accounting, will be 8 billion$.  Quebec alone.

For all of Canada, 7 billion$ were lost in taxes from revenues hidden in tax haven.

Please, tell me how it will solve all our problems and pay for the new expenses the left wants?

Finding 7 billion in lost revenu is nice. I do not think that deficit is a problem.

The accounting of a government is all lies anyway.

[DGuller]

So, this thread was inspired by an article I read recently (unfortunately, only in print). According to estimates, up to $32 trillion of assets is stacked away in tax havens. This is nearly half of the global GDP (which is around $75 trillion).

We spend hours discussing the failures of the welfare state, whether to raise or decrease taxes etc. but at the end of the day, does it even matter if the uber-class simply does not play by the same rules as everyone else?

Are you doing your part now? Or are you still proud that thanks to some legal trick you pay much less relative income tax than the average Polish worker?

[crazy canuck]

Finding 7 billion in lost revenu is nice. I do not think that deficit is a problem.

That certainly explains your voting preferences.

[Zanza]

So, this thread was inspired by an article I read recently (unfortunately, only in print). According to estimates, up to $32 trillion of assets is stacked away in tax havens. This is nearly half of the global GDP (which is around $75 trillion).

We spend hours discussing the failures of the welfare state, whether to raise or decrease taxes etc. but at the end of the day, does it even matter if the uber-class simply does not play by the same rules as everyone else?

Are you doing your part now? Or are you still proud that thanks to some legal trick you pay much less relative income tax than the average Polish worker?

Polish state repeatedly refuses to recognize same sex unions. Thus, as a second class citizen, I don't feel obliged to pay first-class taxes.

Wouldn't it be more consequential to stop the tax privileges of married couples instead of just adding another privileged group to the tax break?

[Martinus]

So, this thread was inspired by an article I read recently (unfortunately, only in print). According to estimates, up to $32 trillion of assets is stacked away in tax havens. This is nearly half of the global GDP (which is around $75 trillion).

We spend hours discussing the failures of the welfare state, whether to raise or decrease taxes etc. but at the end of the day, does it even matter if the uber-class simply does not play by the same rules as everyone else?

Are you doing your part now? Or are you still proud that thanks to some legal trick you pay much less relative income tax than the average Polish worker?

Polish state repeatedly refuses to recognize same sex unions. Thus, as a second class citizen, I don't feel obliged to pay first-class taxes.

Wouldn't it be more consequential to stop the tax privileges of married couples instead of just adding another privileged group to the tax break?

Yes, but until either happens I do not feel obliged to pay my dues.

[Grey Fox]

Finding 7 billion in lost revenu is nice. I do not think that deficit is a problem.

That certainly explains your voting preferences.

[Razgovory]

Yes, but until either happens I do not feel obliged to pay my dues.

If they do will you pay back taxes, or are you just the worst sort of scum?

[Neil]

Yes, but until either happens I do not feel obliged to pay my dues.

That's a lie and you know it, faggot.

[Martinus]

Yes, but until either happens I do not feel obliged to pay my dues.

If they do will you pay back taxes, or are you just the worst sort of scum?

Back? No. But I will start paying according to a sliding scale.

[Martinus]

Anyways, my accountant just sent me my 2012 tax statement and I paid US$38,000 in direct (income) taxes alone so that's enough for a second class citizen, I think.

[Razgovory]

You really are scum aren't you?

[Ed Anger]

Look at my tax bill!

[Ideologue]

Maybe Poland really isn't so bad, if it takes away enough of Martinus' money to buy a shitty house or a nice car every year.

[viper37]

For all of Canada, 7 billion$ were lost in taxes from revenues hidden in tax haven.

Where did you get this number from?

Media coverage of the fiscal-leaks.  One report on French CBC (Enquête, April4th), they showed the data to a fiscality teacher from the HEC (Hautes Études Commerciales) in Montreal, they evaluated based, on this sample, the sum to be 7billion$ for all Canadian jurisdiction, if everything was illegal.

For the sake of discussion in this forum, I assume their study was valid, them having the original data and me not having it.