First time offender sold pain killers to friend, faces 25 years in jail

[Admiral Yi]

Out of curiosity anyone know what you get if you traffic less than amounts in Seedy's table?  I.e. <25 pounds of ganja or <28 grams of Bolivian marching powder?  Does it turn into possession?

[dps]

Lacking a conscience is considered a sign of strength among certain tribes.

Yeah, especially the tribe of stupid internet faggots.

Wait, isn't that your tribe?

Presumably, he doesn't limit either his stupidity or his faggotry to the internet.

[CountDeMoney]

Out of curiosity anyone know what you get if you traffic less than amounts in Seedy's table?  I.e. <25 pounds of ganja or <28 grams of Bolivian marching powder?  Does it turn into possession?

I found this link on the dope:
http://norml.org/laws/penalties/item/florida-penalties

[Zanza]

The fact that the fiscal burden to the taxpayer features prominently in the article is interesting. It seems pretty irrelevant compared to depriving a man of his liberty for a very long time for a non violent first offense. That suggests a very amoral, solely fiscal view on this. If money is the only way to argue about cases like this, people seem to lack empathy and respect for what is supposedly America's core value, freedom.

[sbr]

The fact that the fiscal burden to the taxpayer features prominently in the article is interesting. It seems pretty irrelevant compared to depriving a man of his liberty for a very long time for a non violent first offense. That suggests a very amoral, solely fiscal view on this. If money is the only way to argue about cases like this, people seem to lack empathy and respect for what is supposedly America's core value, freedom.

Are you new here?

[dps]

The cost is irrelevant to me, since prisons are one of the few things I think it's legitmate for the govenement to spend money on.

Well, not exactly irrelevant.  Convicts get too many material comforts;  prisions should be harder on them, and cheaper on us.

That said, 25 years for what he did is far too long.  3-5 seems about right.

[DGuller]

The fact that the fiscal burden to the taxpayer features prominently in the article is interesting. It seems pretty irrelevant compared to depriving a man of his liberty for a very long time for a non violent first offense. That suggests a very amoral, solely fiscal view on this. If money is the only way to argue about cases like this, people seem to lack empathy and respect for what is supposedly America's core value, freedom.

Yeah, that struck me as well.

[DGuller]

That said, 25 years for what he did is far too long.  3-5 seems about right.

Five years for selling prescription pills?  Are you out of your mind?

[Razgovory]

That said, 25 years for what he did is far too long.  3-5 seems about right.

Five years for selling prescription pills?  Are you out of your mind?

I've always wanted to see that snooty pharmacist at Walgreens knocked down a peg.

[Razgovory]

The cost is irrelevant to me, since prisons are one of the few things I think it's legitmate for the govenement to spend money on.

Well, not exactly irrelevant.  Convicts get too many material comforts;  prisions should be harder on them, and cheaper on us.

That said, 25 years for what he did is far too long.  3-5 seems about right.

Which material comforts are you talking about?

[Richard Hakluyt]

The cost is irrelevant to me, since prisons are one of the few things I think it's legitmate for the govenement to spend money on.

Well, not exactly irrelevant.  Convicts get too many material comforts;  prisions should be harder on them, and cheaper on us.

That said, 25 years for what he did is far too long.  3-5 seems about right.

Which material comforts are you talking about?

That would be the regular passive anal sex 

[Martinus]

What cases like that highlight is that America hasn't been enlightened yet when it comes to judicial system.

No, what this case highlights is what happens when you remove the independence of the judiciary from criminal law and place it in the hands of the legislature.

Bingo. I don't see how minimum or automatic penalties are found constitutional.

[Scipio]

The fact that the fiscal burden to the taxpayer features prominently in the article is interesting. It seems pretty irrelevant compared to depriving a man of his liberty for a very long time for a non violent first offense. That suggests a very amoral, solely fiscal view on this. If money is the only way to argue about cases like this, people seem to lack empathy and respect for what is supposedly America's core value, freedom.

Yeah, well, you're not from Chicago.

[Gups]

You'd expect this from Thailand or Burma, but it seems incredible that this can happen in a western country.

[derspiess]

That said, 25 years for what he did is far too long.  3-5 seems about right.

Five years for selling prescription pills?  Are you out of your mind?

For the ones that are often abused and are a pretty significant drug abuse problem in some areas-- absolutely.