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Started by merithyn, March 28, 2013, 08:36:31 AM

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garbon

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Viking

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I didn't think that was cryptic at all? It's a new threshold of commitment (by her obviously). New in the sense that internet porn has brought it out in the open.
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A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

merithyn

Quote from: Viking on March 28, 2013, 09:09:38 AM
norwegian wood ~ knowing she would

I didn't think that was cryptic at all? It's a new threshold of commitment (by her obviously). New in the sense that internet porn has brought it out in the open.

Still trying to parse this, but you're saying that if a woman allows anal, she's offering you a new level of commitment than simply having sex?

Is there a similar "level of commitment" for guys?
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Queequeg

A lot of guys just like asses too. The ass is what primates are or were first attracted to. The development of breasts as sexual objects basically involved them looking more like asses.
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Quote from: Queequeg on March 28, 2013, 09:15:00 AM
A lot of guys just like asses too. The ass is what primates are or were first attracted to. The development of breasts as sexual objects basically involved them looking more like asses.

You can look at an ass doggie style. That doesn't explain penis placement.
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Viking

Quote from: merithyn on March 28, 2013, 09:11:29 AM
Quote from: Viking on March 28, 2013, 09:09:38 AM
norwegian wood ~ knowing she would

I didn't think that was cryptic at all? It's a new threshold of commitment (by her obviously). New in the sense that internet porn has brought it out in the open.

Still trying to parse this, but you're saying that if a woman allows anal, she's offering you a new level of commitment than simply having sex?

Is there a similar "level of commitment" for guys?

Yes, just like dating, not dating other people, having sex etc. are thresholds. Internet porn opened up the idea of anal to people and people started asking themselves why aren't I do that? And of course the more paranoid "she won't let me but did she let anybody else?" way of thinking. Basically it has moved from a perversion to a exotic sexual act, the gays probably helped move this along as well since anal is their version of missionary.

As for the similar "level of commitment". That all depends on the "exchange rate". It probably varies from "remembering her name" to "adopting her first two kids from a previous marriage" depending on the self image and idea of self worth of the parties involved.
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

Viking

Quote from: Queequeg on March 28, 2013, 09:15:00 AM
A lot of guys just like asses too. The ass is what primates are or were first attracted to. The development of breasts as sexual objects basically involved them looking more like asses.

that because after going upright humans moved from doggie to missionary and us men are just so visual about everything....
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

Berkut

There are a very finite number of combinations when it comes to sex. There are only a certain number of different things available to do with the equipment we were born with.

So we (meaning people in general) pretty much try just about all the combos available.

Anal is the combo least likely to be acceptable, and hence the most "desirable" from a taboo standpoint.

Before oral was so acceptable it has become pretty much "normal", that was probably considered more of a big deal.
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derspiess

:huh:  So people didn't know about it until internet porn?
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Admiral Yi

I don't think commitment is the right word.  Intimacy or vulnerability.

merithyn

Quote from: derspiess on March 28, 2013, 09:32:52 AM
:huh:  So people didn't know about it until internet porn?

I think internet porn made it a more approachable topic. Obviously, it happened before then, but it wasn't as open a topic when I was in college as it seems to be now.
Yesterday, upon the stair,
I met a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
I wish, I wish he'd go away...

garbon

Quote from: merithyn on March 28, 2013, 09:34:54 AM
Quote from: derspiess on March 28, 2013, 09:32:52 AM
:huh:  So people didn't know about it until internet porn?

I think internet porn made it a more approachable topic. Obviously, it happened before then, but it wasn't as open a topic when I was in college as it seems to be now.

Is it really so much the internet, per se, or just the general liberalization of society.  Similar to discussions about oral when I was in college vs. when my mother was in college.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

derspiess

Quote from: merithyn on March 28, 2013, 09:34:54 AM
Quote from: derspiess on March 28, 2013, 09:32:52 AM
:huh:  So people didn't know about it until internet porn?

I think internet porn made it a more approachable topic. Obviously, it happened before then, but it wasn't as open a topic when I was in college as it seems to be now.

It seemed to be about as much of an open topic during my college years (early to mid 90s) as it does now.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Viking

Quote from: Berkut on March 28, 2013, 09:32:09 AM
There are a very finite number of combinations when it comes to sex. There are only a certain number of different things available to do with the equipment we were born with.

So we (meaning people in general) pretty much try just about all the combos available.

Anal is the combo least likely to be acceptable, and hence the most "desirable" from a taboo standpoint.

Before oral was so acceptable it has become pretty much "normal", that was probably considered more of a big deal.

There seems to be an age thing. If she is 5 or more years younger than me she gives oral on her own initiative. If she is older than that she doesn't. I suspect that there is a further age limit where the same applies to anal.
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.