Will the US Bail Out California?

[Neil]

What kind of faggot runs California anyway?

A non native born faggit.

This is why we can't have nice things.

Actually, the problem is the Californians themselves.  California would be governable if only non-natives had a say in things.

[Martinus]

Why would a state of garbons and Jarons be ungovernable?

[KRonn]

California is too big to fail!

Maybe Obama can buy it, "reorganize" and then give it to the state employees union.

[saskganesh]

Why would a state of garbons and Jarons be ungovernable?

they are only governable if you ban them. repeatedly. this is why you failed as a mod, and why you would make a bad governorator.

[garbon]

So is the feeling that Californians should have agreed to the propositions offered to us?

[DGuller]

So is the feeling that Californians should have agreed to the propositions offered to us?

Yes, of course.  What were those propositions, BTW?

[Admiral Yi]

I have no idea what will happen, but any federal funds should come with rather harsh consequences.

I posted a while back an analysis seeming to show that California's debt problems are not that bad compared to other states--on a per capita basis California seems to be about middle of the pack. The problem is they imposed on themselves a legislative process that makes it almost impossible to cut spending or raise taxes, and a constitutional requirement to balance the budget. I don't think the state is insolvent so much as it passed a bunch of silly constitutional amendments that tied its hands, and now can't write checks even though the money is there to do so.

AFAIK the only limitation on the revenue side is prop 13.

[Admiral Yi]

So is the feeling that Californians should have agreed to the propositions offered to us?

The feeling is that Californians should pass a proposition giving up their power to vote on propositions.

[garbon]

The feeling is that Californians should pass a proposition giving up their power to vote on propositions.

Is that ever a proposition on the ballot? I don't know honestly know since I recently started voting.

[Admiral Yi]

Is that ever a proposition on the ballot? I don't know honestly know since I recently started voting.

No.  Go grab a clipboard and get some signatures.

[garbon]

No.  Go grab a clipboard and get some signatures.

I'm stuck at work.

[Admiral Yi]

I'm stuck at work.

Later then.

[garbon]

Later then.

I'd certainly be in favor. Voting is exhausting here! Which is why so few probably turned out last Tuesday.

[alfred russel]

AFAIK the only limitation on the revenue side is prop 13.

I'm not very knowledgeable on California propositions, but my understanding is that a supermajority is needed to pass tax increases in the legislature.

[Admiral Yi]

I'm not very knowledgeable on California propositions, but my understanding is that a supermajority is needed to pass tax increases in the legislature.

Ah, OK.