Korea Thread: Liberal Moon Jae In Elected

[Admiral Yi]

I'm not worried about food aid.

I'm pretty sure Eddie was joking.

[Josquius]

I do wonder whether trump goes to Korea is some attempt at a nixon goes to China moment.

Maybe they'll kidnap him.

That'd be nice.

[derspiess]

I do wonder whether trump goes to Korea is some attempt at a nixon goes to China moment.

Maybe they'll kidnap him.

That'd be nice.

His tweets would undergo a DPRK-style transformation.

[The Minsky Moment]

Lindsay Graham with a little pre-summit diplomacy.

"The worst possible thing you can do is meet with President Trump in person and try to play him," the senator said.

Is that intentional or unintentional irony, do you think?

The Saudis met him in person and played him, Abe met him and played him, even Macron played him.  Then there's Putin . . .

Playing Trump is now the standard diplomatic move, allies and enemies alike.

[Liep]

[derspiess]

Though it kinda looks like they're jumping off a building together.

[Tamas]

You have to admit it looks like the appeasement going for a decade or so, where NK would start posturing every time they ran out of food and the world would quickly stuff their mouth, didn't work out as well as Trump calling Roundhead's bluff and going gung-ho on him. Which is good as I hated the "aid for silence" scheme. It's called tribute.

[Admiral Yi]

I'm willing to bet Fathead is running a scam, if the bet can be structured correctly.

[Valmy]

I agree. South Korea always kisses the North's ass and gets nothing but humiliation in return.

[Josquius]

As the north steadily ups its rhetoric in the push stage it also increases its rhetoric in the pull stage.
I don't see the established pattern of pushing and pulling stopping soon. It's working for the north.

[Valmy]

As the north steadily ups its rhetoric in the push stage it also increases its rhetoric in the pull stage.
I don't see the established pattern of pushing and pulling stopping soon. It's working for the north.

No, it has been horrible for North Korea in every conceivable way. But it works great for the Kims.

[jimmy olsen]

You have to admit it looks like the appeasement going for a decade or so, where NK would start posturing every time they ran out of food and the world would quickly stuff their mouth, didn't work out as well as Trump calling Roundhead's bluff and going gung-ho on him. Which is good as I hated the "aid for silence" scheme. It's called tribute.

The South hasn't been giving the North anything for years.

[Jacob]

I expect a scam, but hope to be wrong.

[Jacob]

Okay, so what do we know:

Kim visited Xi in person recently.
Trump's said "he's willing to deal".
The deal involves demilitarizing and denuclearizing.

I guess in the medium term we'll see the US withdrawing (or redeploying) resources (so saving the US money), and that China's influence as regional hegemon will increase as a result?

EDIT: Maybe Xi told Kim 1) I will reign in China for the long term, so you can count on my word. 2) I will guarantee your regime, so you don't need nuclear weapons. 3) By giving up you nuclear weapons we can get the US out of the area and increase the economic stability of your regime.

[Razgovory]

Okay, so what do we know:

Kim visited Xi in person recently.
Trump's said "he's willing to deal".
The deal involves demilitarizing and denuclearizing.

I guess in the medium term we'll see the US withdrawing (or redeploying) resources (so saving the US money), and that China's influence as regional hegemon will increase as a result?

EDIT: Maybe Xi told Kim 1) I will reign in China for the long term, so you can count on my word. 2) I will guarantee your regime, so you don't need nuclear weapons. 3) By giving up you nuclear weapons we can get the US out of the area and increase the economic stability of your regime.

God, I hope that happens.

My guess is that there will be some vague promises made, Trump will leave and declare victory, and the North Koreans will just do their own thing.  This is in my opinion an adequate solution.