Korea Thread: Liberal Moon Jae In Elected

[Barrister]

Apparently South Korea was not notified in advance of the summit cancellation.

[FunkMonk]

Looks like everyone's favorite chicken hawk Bolton is assuming the recently vacated role of Shadow President

[Zanza]

Summit canceled by Trump.

"You talk about your nuclear capabilities," Trump wrote in his letter to Kim, "but ours are so massive and powerful that I pray to God they will never have to be used."

Good lord, he is really at the level of a school yard bully. 

[Tamas]

Summit canceled by Trump.

"You talk about your nuclear capabilities," Trump wrote in his letter to Kim, "but ours are so massive and powerful that I pray to God they will never have to be used."

Good lord, he is really at the level of a school yard bully. 

I was wondering what he was going to do after NK press basically threatened him with a nuclear war if he doesn't behave himself. He got himself into a situation where he either cancels or looks like Kim's little bitch.

[The Minsky Moment]

This is Trump and his genius 3D chess game.
I.e. Trump makes a move, is shocked when he realizes the other side gets to make a move as well, and then responds by knocking the board over.
Chess in 3 dimensions.

[Barrister]

To be fair cancelling the summit is likely the right move - because there's no way I'd trust Trump in a one-on-one summit.

[Jacob]

I was willing to reconsider Trump's presidency and forgive his character short-comings if he managed to facilitate peace and lasting reconciliation on the Korean peninsula. It's looking less likely that that's going to happen now

[derspiess]

  No you weren't.

[Jacob]

  No you weren't.

I am, actually. Same with Israel-Palestine. Deliver a good lasting equitable fix there, and I'll give him significant credit. It's unlikely, of course. In general I believe his methods are unfit and his character beyond dubious so I expect bad outcomes... but I've been wrong before.

If Trump doesn't seriously precipitate a major war costing the US billions of dollars and hundreds of lives, and killing non-Americans in the tens of thousands or more, then he'll be doing better than I expect and I'll upgrade my opinion of him to "exceptionally odious but whatever" as opposed to "exceptionally odious and malignantly harmful."

If he actually delivers some major good I'll re-evaluate my opinion of him. His supporters (including Trump himself) frequently claim that he's clever and the blustery bullying and flip-flopping is an effective negotiation strategy. I think that's laughably incorrect. However, if somehow Trump facilitates lasting peace in the Middle East, denuclearization of North Korea and a lasting thaw in relations, or significant regime change for the better in China, Russia et. al. without a major war then I'll have to concede that maybe they were right and I am wrong.

The recent developments around North Korea forced my to face that. What if it actually turned out well in the long run? The conclusion would be that in that case I'd have been wrong about Trump, and he really is at least some of what his boosters say.

However, with this recent change the malignant buffoon explanation for Trump's actions seems to hold true.

[derspiess]

Okay

[Tonitrus]

Summit canceled by Trump.

"You talk about your nuclear capabilities," Trump wrote in his letter to Kim, "but ours are so massive and powerful that I pray to God they will never have to be used."

Good lord, he is really at the level of a school yard bully. 

I was wondering what he was going to do after NK press basically threatened him with a nuclear war if he doesn't behave himself. He got himself into a situation where he either cancels or looks like Kim's little bitch.

Did you read the cancellation letter?  I think he managed both at the same time.

[Admiral Yi]

Now Speesh is stuck with a useless plate. 

[garbon]

Target practice?

[derspiess]

Now Speesh is stuck with a useless plate. 

It was a coin anyway

But it can be yours for a discounted price!

[The Brain]

Stuff from stuff that never was is cool. Like promo stuff for the 1940 Olympics.