British Esquire editor stands by comments: Women are ‘ornamental’—just like cars

[MadImmortalMan]

Practical Caravan has a very similar circulation to that. It features homely middleaged women brewing up cups of tea for their beefy husbands as they cock-up yet another enhancement to their caravan.

.........or we have Railway Modeller with its dreadful front-page objectification of steam engines, they are transport workhorses goddamit............not pinups.

I won't even go into the Angling Times, front-page story "Top angler reveals 'smelly pellets' approach", a cruel objectification of our very own Ed Anger 

Men are interested in all sorts of stuff, sometimes one gets a bit peeved with this focus on a particular little sub-class of men.

My favorite post of the thread. Shockingly, it's from one of my favorite Languishtas.

Okay yeah. That was just excellent. 

[Neil]

Heh. So maybe objectification of women doesn't sell?

Esquire doesn't objectify them enough.

[dps]

To reiterate:

The part that offends me the most is that he very specifically equates the women in his magazines to "things" such as hot cars. It may be just that he openly states it where others don't, but it's quite clear that the women in his magazine are not humans to him.

He doesn't say (or even suggest, IMO) that they aren't human.  He's not even saying that women are, or should be, just ornaments.  He's saying that their purpose in his magazine is strictly ornamental.  That's a bit of a difference, I think.

[HVC]

Who reads Esquire anyway? I had assumed that it was for aspirational wankers who hadn't succeeded yet and probably wouldn't............is that fair?

Apparently British Esquire only has 56,000 as of Feb last year.

Heh. So maybe objectification of women doesn't sell?

why buy objectification when you can get it for free on the Internet

[MadImmortalMan]

Esquire probably sold more magazines as a result of this scandal than they did all year. 

[garbon]

Esquire probably sold more magazines as a result of this scandal than they did all year. 

I'm not sure I buy that. I mean sure they got a little press but how many people are there that are going to rush out and buy it because they want to see hot women? Really I think if there was any increase in circulation it would just be for folks who had forgotten it existed.

[Neil]

It's a printed magazine.  Just because they have a truthful editor that upsets some hair-trigger feminists, that's no reason to spend money on something that outdated.

[Sheilbh]

It is not as if Esquire is some unique snowflake in the world of glossy "lifestyle" magazines, they are mainly shit. So what do we do about it? Ban them because we are more enlightened  ?

I swear Esquire has some sort of connection to Piers Morgan. Can we ban them for that?

Fat people should not be in the media as they provide wrong role models for easily impressionable people. Having fatsos is like having alcoholics and drug addicts as role models.

I don't entirely disagree

This returns to my point about banning positive media portrayals of Piers Morgan.

[Scipio]

It's entertainment.  Let us be entertained and don't force fat acceptance on us. 

But it isn't just entertainment, of course. Media portrayals do have an affect on people.

So does murder.

[garbon]

It's entertainment.  Let us be entertained and don't force fat acceptance on us. 

But it isn't just entertainment, of course. Media portrayals do have an affect on people.

So does murder.

And people are generally sour about that too.

[Razgovory]

Fat people should not be in the media as they provide wrong role models for easily impressionable people. Having fatsos is like having alcoholics and drug addicts as role models.

Methinks the chubby Pole doth protest too much.

I believe there is a correlation between being gay and higher rates of suicide, so it could also be considered a health risk.  So maybe they shouldn't be in the media either.

[garbon]

Fat people should not be in the media as they provide wrong role models for easily impressionable people. Having fatsos is like having alcoholics and drug addicts as role models.

Methinks the chubby Pole doth protest too much.

I believe there is a correlation between being gay and higher rates of suicide, so it could also be considered a health risk.  So maybe they shouldn't be in the media either.

Of course suicide rate probably wouldn't be so high if people were more accepting of gays.

Sorry to rain on your Marti-taunting parade.

[Razgovory]

Fat people should not be in the media as they provide wrong role models for easily impressionable people. Having fatsos is like having alcoholics and drug addicts as role models.

Methinks the chubby Pole doth protest too much.

I believe there is a correlation between being gay and higher rates of suicide, so it could also be considered a health risk.  So maybe they shouldn't be in the media either.

Of course suicide rate probably wouldn't be so high if people were more accepting of gays.

Sorry to rain on your Marti-taunting parade.

If people were more accepting of fat people they would likely suffer from less stress and thus decreasing the chances of heart attack. Being gay or being fat is a health risk, and there are many elements that factor into that.

[Camerus]

Of course they are - it's Esquire magazine.  Hot women will be used as a crude marketing tool until the day that enough men stop being interested in them.  Raging about it won't make one iota of difference.

That being said, you'd have to be a juvenile, superficial mouth-breather to enjoy that magazine.

[garbon]

I don't think you're doing that right, Raze.