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What's Wrong With the Term 'Person of Color'

Started by garbon, March 22, 2013, 08:52:11 AM

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The Brain

Quote from: garbon on March 22, 2013, 04:51:32 PM
Quote from: Valmy on March 22, 2013, 04:44:24 PM
Quote from: garbon on March 22, 2013, 04:39:00 PM
That's pretty awful.

Eh I liked it.  If somebody only would consider being with a Latin guy, or whatever, it was to  know that in advance.

I mean sure it is good to weed out the racially challenged but then at the same time only helps to encourage said individuals.

Blacks are encouraged by people not being attracted to blacks?
Women want me. Men want to be with me.

CountDeMoney

Quote from: fahdiz on March 22, 2013, 04:28:15 PM
Quote from: Valmy on March 22, 2013, 04:19:19 PM
Well for the site I was on, Match, you listed the races you wanted to get with not the ones you did not.  So you never actually had to explain away why you had certain preferences or whatever.

Really?

YAH RLY.

Although the only thing I seem to recall with Match.com was the number of transvestites that seemed substantially higher than the average one would expect for the region.

dps

Quote from: garbon on March 22, 2013, 04:51:32 PM
Quote from: Valmy on March 22, 2013, 04:44:24 PM
Quote from: garbon on March 22, 2013, 04:39:00 PM
That's pretty awful.

Eh I liked it.  If somebody only would consider being with a Latin guy, or whatever, it was to  know that in advance.

I mean sure it is good to weed out the racially challenged but then at the same time only helps to encourage said individuals.

Well, the purpose of a dating site is to match people up with those that they're theoretically compatible with, not to advance social justice.

I'm reminded of an incident about 15 years ago when a co-worker was reading the local newspaper in the breakroom and started laughing.  He was glancing at the personals, and saw 2 that were funny, which he shared with the rest of us. 

One which has some connection to the topic at hand, was, "Athletic, still virile black man, 64, seeks blonde-haired, blue-eye woman of Danish extraction, age 23-27.  Must be a good Christian lady, and a non-smoker."  That one just seemed strangely specific, but as someone said, "Well, at least he knows what he wants".

The other one didn't have any connection to the topic, but it was funny, so here goes:  "My ex-boyfriend promised to use his chainsaw to clear the underbrush that has grown up on the access road to my property, but he never did, so I dumped him.  Will exchange sex for road-clearing work.  Must supply own chainsaw".

CountDeMoney

Quote from: garbon on March 22, 2013, 04:51:32 PM
Quote from: Valmy on March 22, 2013, 04:44:24 PM
Quote from: garbon on March 22, 2013, 04:39:00 PM
That's pretty awful.

Eh I liked it.  If somebody only would consider being with a Latin guy, or whatever, it was to  know that in advance.

I mean sure it is good to weed out the racially challenged but then at the same time only helps to encourage said individuals.

It is really any different than the other parameters of choice when it comes to attraction, such as age, height, weight and hair color?

Then again, I see somebody who only wants to date someone over 6' when her little ass is only 5'3" as prejudiced as well.  So I know how the black man feels.

Ideologue

Quote from: garbon on March 22, 2013, 10:45:22 AM
Quote from: fahdiz on March 22, 2013, 10:39:31 AM
Quote from: garbon on March 22, 2013, 09:56:57 AM
That said the reason I thought about the bit I posted on fairer vs. darker was that I was recently having a discussion about the use of skin lightening products in Asia with my mother/sister. My sister was of the mind that such products are of questionable morality because they are kind of racist and my question was whether or not that was us projecting our Americal racial beliefs onto such beauty practices.

Is it considered more or less weird than white people who go tanning?

Well I brought up that and also black people who use hair relaxers.

I used some hair relaxer once.  I looked like Joel Hodgson in the KTMA season of Mystery Science Theatre. :(
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Ideologue

Quote from: fahdiz on March 22, 2013, 04:12:50 PM
Quote from: Malthus on March 22, 2013, 04:05:39 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 22, 2013, 03:56:13 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on March 22, 2013, 03:54:32 PM
The BLS data sets beg to differ.

I was mostly talking about scoring the snatch.

Interesting how that stuff works. I read somewhere that the lowest-rated groups to belong to in that respect were Black women and Asian men. Have no idea if it was true, though I suspect it might be - seems that for whatever reason lotsa White dudes have the yellow fever for Asian women, but that the same isn't true of White women for Asian men.

Most white women don't want to date dudes who are skinnier than they are. :P

Incorrect.
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garbon

Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 22, 2013, 06:06:05 PM
It is really any different than the other parameters of choice when it comes to attraction, such as age, height, weight and hair color?

Yes it is.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

garbon

Quote from: dps on March 22, 2013, 06:00:56 PM
Well, the purpose of a dating site is to match people up with those that they're theoretically compatible with, not to advance social justice.

That doesn't mean I can't think it is awful. :mellow:

/I could have given you that if you threw in "they think" after those. But given how mutable race is and how much variations there are in personality and physical attributes among given members of a race - I can't help but think it incredibly close minded.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Ideologue

Quote from: fahdiz on March 22, 2013, 04:13:53 PM
Quote from: Valmy on March 22, 2013, 04:12:15 PM
Quote from: garbon on March 22, 2013, 11:30:21 AM
As an example, I see a lot of "no blacks" listed in profiles when on dating sites. Usually with a comment like - not racist, just a preference.

Wow that's weird.  Of course back when I was doing the online dating thing it was a rare black woman who would not have her list of racial preferences anything other than just black...or at least the ones I was considering.  I would be just like 'oh ok...thanks for letting me know' and move on.

Yeah, I haven't dated in about 4 years but I never saw anything like "no blacks" on the profiles of women whose interests matched mine.

Possibly because you selected for liberals who wouldn't mention it.  Africa never put "only white guys" on hers.

I never did ask her* if she'd ever thought about her preference or if she considered it a fetish, or if it was racialized in a negative.  I mean, it clearly is a fetish--if me or Money fetishize Asians, and arguably we do, an ironclad "dates whites only" rule definitely counts.  I would like to have sex with people of quality from every population group, so a vague aesthetic preference for Asian phenotype never struck me as highly racialized.  I know that for some people, it's an orientalizing, faintly misogynistic (I DO NOT MEAN YOU :P ) deal rather than a purely aesthetic one like it is for me.  But a "blacks need not apply, period" sign kinda does seem like it might have cultural racial component.

Interesting stuff, but who knows?  I wasn't gonna bring that shit up.  As you know, sex is basically infinitely more valuable than learning about race relations in America or whatever.
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Ideologue

Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 22, 2013, 06:06:05 PM
Then again, I see somebody who only wants to date someone over 6' when her little ass is only 5'3" as prejudiced as well.  So I know how the black man feels.

ONE HUNDRED PERCENT AGREE.  What the fuck is up with that shit?  Bitches be bigoted.
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fhdz

Quote from: Ideologue on March 22, 2013, 06:39:22 PM
Possibly because you selected for liberals who wouldn't mention it.

Thank goodness for liberals then. :mellow:
and the horse you rode in on

fhdz

and the horse you rode in on

garbon

"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Ideologue

Quote from: fahdiz on March 22, 2013, 08:10:57 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on March 22, 2013, 06:32:53 PM
Incorrect.

What white women are you dating?

Not that, but you think all the fatasses of the world prefer to date/fuck only men bigger than they?  Unlikely.
Kinemalogue
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fhdz

and the horse you rode in on