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Started by grumbler, March 21, 2013, 07:27:00 PM

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alfred russel

Quote from: MadImmortalMan on January 03, 2014, 09:02:48 PM
Yeah then they paid him again to get him to leave.  :P

I'm not sure how true they were (because ND is private and doesn't release salary info like public schools), but there were stories saying that last year Charlie Weis was being paid more not to coach than Brian Kelly was being paid to coach.

If true, it makes sense to me....Kelly is doing a good job, but I think it is more impactful to not have Weis around anymore.
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-garbon, February 23, 2014

MadImmortalMan

Clemson's been gunning for Braxton's throwing arm since the 2nd half started.
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Valmy

Looks like it is going to be Charlie Strong at Texas.  He is that guy everybody said should have a shot at a major program and it looks like he will have it.  Solid track record of success over decades of coaching, tough defensive type dude who still will run the spread offense.  No Texas ties for recruiting but a good hire, if it ends up happening, I think.
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jimmy olsen

Lol, that wasn't a real interception.
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MadBurgerMaker

Quote from: Valmy on January 04, 2014, 12:11:19 AM
No Texas ties for recruiting but a good hire, if it ends up happening, I think.

:yes: Same here.  I like it.

alfred russel

Whoa, epic fuckup by Urban Meyer at the end.

After the unsportsmanlike penalty when clemson was taking a knee, the clock stopped. There were about 30 seconds left,  it was 2nd and 28, and OSU had 2 timeouts. But Meyer didn't start taking timeouts. They should have gotten the ball back. Granted, it was still a longshot, but you have to take the timeouts there.
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

There's a fine line between salvation and drinking poison in the jungle.

I'm embarrassed. I've been making the mistake of associating with you. It won't happen again. :)
-garbon, February 23, 2014

MadImmortalMan

It was a worse fuckup not subbing in Guiton for the last drive. Miller was just too noddle-armed from all those helmet shots. I think Meyer just gave up or something.
"Stability is destabilizing." --Hyman Minsky

"Complacency can be a self-denying prophecy."
"We have nothing to fear but lack of fear itself." --Larry Summers

Valmy

Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on January 04, 2014, 12:20:13 AM
Quote from: Valmy on January 04, 2014, 12:11:19 AM
No Texas ties for recruiting but a good hire, if it ends up happening, I think.

:yes: Same here.  I like it.

LSUfreak is already on it:



:lol: The Head Coach is a
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LSUfreek is pretty great. 

Also:


:punk:

alfred russel

I wonder if this is a good fit...Strong is a good coach, but his ties are so Florida oriented (even at Louisville he focused on recruiting Florida). He isn't a great public speaker, and the UT fanbase doesn't know him.

UF seems to be the perfect fit, and it almost came open this year.
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

There's a fine line between salvation and drinking poison in the jungle.

I'm embarrassed. I've been making the mistake of associating with you. It won't happen again. :)
-garbon, February 23, 2014

jimmy olsen

It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
--------------------------------------------
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dps

Quote from: alfred russel on January 05, 2014, 11:05:10 PM
I wonder if this is a good fit...Strong is a good coach, but his ties are so Florida oriented (even at Louisville he focused on recruiting Florida). He isn't a great public speaker, and the UT fanbase doesn't know him.

If you're a good enough recruiter to be able to talk Florida kids into going to Louisville, I'm sure you're good enough to be able to talk Texas kids into going to UT.

alfred russel

Quote from: dps on January 05, 2014, 11:28:38 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on January 05, 2014, 11:05:10 PM
I wonder if this is a good fit...Strong is a good coach, but his ties are so Florida oriented (even at Louisville he focused on recruiting Florida). He isn't a great public speaker, and the UT fanbase doesn't know him.

If you're a good enough recruiter to be able to talk Florida kids into going to Louisville, I'm sure you're good enough to be able to talk Texas kids into going to UT.

Outside of the year Miami fired Shannon, he hardly pulled anyone out of Florida that the Big 3 were after (that 1 year was big though--he flipped Bridgewater from Miami to Louisville).

He is a good recruiter, but keep in mind he was a Florida coach for a long, long time. He had relationships with the high school coaches and administrators going back a ways. The year Bridgewater came out of high school, you had an unknown guy from Pennsylvania coming in to coach Miami, and a somewhat unknown guy from Texas coming in to coach UF. Jimbo Fisher had only been in Tallahassee one year.

He wasn't just a smooth talking guy from Louisville randomly pulling guys to Kentucky - at the time he had a relationship and credibility edge over the in state coaches.

They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

There's a fine line between salvation and drinking poison in the jungle.

I'm embarrassed. I've been making the mistake of associating with you. It won't happen again. :)
-garbon, February 23, 2014

MadBurgerMaker

#1513
The 'fit' is fine. The head coach doesn't need to have spent his career in Texas to be successful at Texas. I don't get why that would even be a thing, considering who Strong is replacing. The closest Mack got to Texas was a couple years in Oklahoma and Louisiana. They hired him from UNC.

And what are the 'ridiculous media responsibilities' that Strong is going to have to take on? Just because Mack Brown liked that shit (and was very good at it) doesn't mean Charlie Strong is going to have to do exactly the same thing. Pat Forde is butthurt about this, and the Fox guy seems retarded. The Forbes dude might be on to something though. Strong (and Patterson) is going to have to deal with Mack's big money buddies, and some of them might be a pita when they don't get the access or input they may have had in the past. It was something the next guy was going to have to deal with regardless.

Valmy

Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 05, 2014, 11:22:54 PM
From what I've read the ridiculous media responsibilities down at Texas may be a problem for him.

That is a bunch of nonsense.  The ridiculous media responsibilities were entirely a creation of Mack Brown, that was his strength, but it is not like every single coach we have ever had has been a Mack Brown clone or that every single one going forward must be.  It is just when you have one dude in a job for sixteen years he becomes really identified with it.  The Dallas Morning News is not the first one to point out this issue but I think it is more a Mack Brown thing than a Texas thing.  John Mackovic, David McWilliams, Fred Akers, and Darrell Royal were not guys known for being particularly great with the media.
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