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Started by grumbler, March 21, 2013, 07:27:00 PM

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Quote from: Valmy on December 17, 2013, 02:21:14 PM
My two top guys right now are Franklin and Chad Morris the Clemson OC. 

You really think they'd give the job to a guy (Morris) with no HC experience and only 4 years' total college experience?  That's be a pretty big gamble.

What's the rap on Briles?  I would think him the logical choice.
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He just signed a 10 year extension with Baylor and might not want to leave. 

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Quote from: grumbler on December 17, 2013, 02:42:35 PM
What's the rap on Briles?  I would think him the logical choice.

He would be, but he just signed a big extension which tells me he doesn't want to leave Baylor.  Besides it is generally frowned upon to hire in-conference.
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Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on December 17, 2013, 02:44:12 PM
He just signed a 10 year extension with Baylor and might not want to leave. 

Unless he just doesn't like UT (being a Texan, that's possible) I can't imagine money nor a lack of ambition stopping him from moving to UT.  But I guess I can understand why money might  make him a less desirable candidate from Texas's POV.   
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Quote from: grumbler on December 17, 2013, 02:42:35 PM
You really think they'd give the job to a guy (Morris) with no HC experience and only 4 years' total college experience?  That's be a pretty big gamble.

I don't know if he would be considered.  But he is a rising star and a Texas High School legend, I think with the right support he would be fabulous.
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Quote from: grumbler on December 17, 2013, 02:54:11 PM
Unless he just doesn't like UT (being a Texan, that's possible) I can't imagine money nor a lack of ambition stopping him from moving to UT.  But I guess I can understand why money might  make him a less desirable candidate from Texas's POV.   

I see no evidence he doesn't like UT, he always says very nice things about us.  He doesn't have to do that believe me.  I just figured he was signaling he was fine where he was.  His age may also be a factor, he is almost 60. 
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Quote from: Valmy on December 17, 2013, 02:58:53 PM
His age may also be a factor, he is almost 60.

Ah.  I hadn't noticed that.  Everything starts to fall into place now that I know that. :thumbsup:
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Quote from: grumbler on December 17, 2013, 03:03:48 PM
Quote from: Valmy on December 17, 2013, 02:58:53 PM
His age may also be a factor, he is almost 60.

Ah.  I hadn't noticed that.  Everything starts to fall into place now that I know that. :thumbsup:

Are you being sarcastic dude?  I just thought maybe at that age maybe he figures he has it going on at Baylor and can retire there without starting over someplace else.

While guys like Briles and Gundy are marvelous coaches, and UT would be lucky to have either one, I would rather they stay where they are.  The Big 12 is a better conference with a strong Oklahoma State and Baylor.
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They should get Todd Graham.
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I didn't read sarcasm in grumbler's post. Isn't Briles the one who many years ago was caught saying Texas would be his dream job, as a football coach from Texas? But I think the reality is what you say, he's built up something at Baylor, isn't looking to coach for so much longer that it would make sense to engage in what will probably be a 3 year turnaround at best, possibly 4-5 year to get Texas to where its fans want it to be. That's also a high bar, I think a good coach can have Texas winning 10+ games again in 2 seasons or so, but oddly the guy they just pushed out the door has given Texas fans the feeling they should essentially win the conference every year, beat Oklahoma every year, and win/play for an NC more often than twice every 16 years.

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I heard texas only won the Big XII twice under Mac Brown, is that true?

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Quote from: sbr on December 17, 2013, 07:49:35 PM
I heard texas only won the Big XII twice under Mac Brown, is that true?

Yes, 2005 and 2009. 

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Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on December 17, 2013, 07:45:37 PM
but oddly the guy they just pushed out the door has given Texas fans the feeling they should essentially win the conference every year, beat Oklahoma every year, and win/play for an NC more often than twice every 16 years.

No one expects them to do all of that every year. 

As noted, however, in 16 years, Mack's team only won the conference twice.  That's not enough.  Especially not when you are supposed to be one of the major powers in the conference.  Oh and when your main rival does it 8 times in a shorter amount of time (Stoops started at OU in 99).

It's also important to be competitive with Oklahoma.  Mack went 7-9 against them, which might not be too bad on it's own, until you consider that four of those losses were some of the worst ever for Texas against OU.  63-14, 65-13, 55-17, 63-21.  Those are BAD beat downs. 

The NCs were pretty great.  No one complains about those, but most would probably like to at least be in the picture for the NC game later in the season a lot of the time, given the resources available to the program.  It also would have been awesome if they won the second and went to the third, but Gideon dropped the pick and Earl Thomas and Curtis Brown couldn't shove a dude OOB.   

E:  Don't get me wrong, I appreciate what Mack has done.  I remember the years before him.  Texas was not very good at football, at least not consistently.  Mack definitely turned that around and brought the Horns back from the dead.  His teams just seem to underachieve at times, and recently it has just kind of seemed like he was done.  He didn't want to be, but he might not really have "it" anymore.  He seemed tired at times.

E2:  An article about Mack by a guy who was at UT when he was hired:  http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/10134500/the-end-era-mack-brown-texas-longhorns

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grumbler

Quote from: Valmy on December 17, 2013, 03:10:05 PM
Are you being sarcastic dude? 

Man, you Texas fans are super-touchy, aren't you?  :lol:

QuoteI just thought maybe at that age maybe he figures he has it going on at Baylor and can retire there without starting over someplace else.

That's exactly what "fell into place" when you mentioned his age.  He's got nothing to prove, and he's just reached the age where trying to stretch one's self isn't a high priority.
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