NCAA football, 2013-14

[katmai]

The only important Pac-12 teams already won today (Oregon and Washington )

[Berkut]

More like a dumpster fire.  Mack Brown's program is melting down right now.  This is going to get ugly.  I am definitely getting a 2010/1997 vibe right now.

Shit.  They won 4 and 5 games those years.  I'm struggling to find more than one or two more wins on the schedule this year.  I got Kansas and maybe Iowa State?  Kansas State hasn't been too good either, but they'll win anyway.

Welp.  31 - 6 Arizona.  UTSA actually isn't playing that bad, but they're getting crushed on the scoreboard.  The PAC12N dudes were even talking about it. 

You know, I heard that as well, but mostly thought they were full of shit. Arizona dominated the first half, especially on defense.

[Berkut]

The only important Pac-12 teams already won today (Oregon and Washington )

Dude, you cannot be a fan of them both. That isn't right.

[MadBurgerMaker]

You know, I heard that as well, but mostly thought they were full of shit. Arizona dominated the first half, especially on defense.

Of course they actually weren't full of shit, and Arizona didn't dominate on D (unless UTSA did pretty well on D too?), since the teams weren't off by much in total offense at the half.  UTSA was moving the ball just about as well as Arizona, except they were making more mistakes and weren't capitalizing on those yards.  That's, you know, what they were talking about:  What was going on in the game.

E:  Heh. Touchdown UTSA.

[Eddie Teach]

The only important Pac-12 teams already won today (Oregon and Washington )

Dude, you cannot be a fan of them both. That isn't right.

I'm a fan of both of them when they're playing against USC.

[MadBurgerMaker]

What the fuck man.  Why do the refs keep insisting on noting why there's no penalty for intentional grounding every time a QB throws the ball away?  Is this something they do everywhere, or is it special for Arizona?

[Berkut]

You know, I heard that as well, but mostly thought they were full of shit. Arizona dominated the first half, especially on defense.

Of course they actually weren't full of shit, and Arizona didn't dominate on D (unless UTSA did pretty well on D too?), since the teams weren't off by much in total offense at the half.  UTSA was moving the ball just about as well as Arizona, except they were making more mistakes and weren't capitalizing on those yards.  That's, you know, what they were talking about:  What was going on in the game.

E:  Heh. Touchdown UTSA.

WEll, if you consider giving up 23 points in a half "pretty good on D" then yes, I guess UTSA was doing pretty good.

But if you watched the game, you would see that outside a nice opening drive for a FG, UTSA did pretty much nothing on offense in the first half, with just one other drive for more than 11 yards, and that one went for 49 and another field goal.

So UTSA had one good drive to open up the game, then one so-so drive, and otherwise Arizona dominated them. Total yards might have been kinda similar (I think Arizona had something like 190 to UTSA 140) but I thought the game was pretty much in control after those first couple drives.

Hmmm. Let me see what the actual drives were for UTSA...

11-58 FG
4-10 INT
3-7 Punt
11-49 FG
5 - -2 PUNT
6 -11 EOH

Yeah, that looks pretty much like being dominated by the defense.

Like I said, the announcers were full of shit. Saying the game was pretty even was a comment I would expect from someone who just glanced at the half time stats, missed the score, and didn't actually watch the game.

[Berkut]

What the fuck man.  Why do the refs keep insisting on noting why there's no penalty for intentional grounding every time a QB throws the ball away?  Is this something they do everywhere, or is it special for Arizona?

I dunno. The only time I would announce that would be to explain waving off a flag that was already on the ground.

[MadBurgerMaker]

WEll, if you consider giving up 23 points in a half "pretty good on D" then yes, I guess UTSA was doing pretty good.

But if you watched the game, you would see that outside a nice opening drive for a FG, UTSA did pretty much nothing on offense in the first half, with just one other drive for more than 11 yards, and that one went for 49 and another field goal.

So UTSA had one good drive to open up the game, then one so-so drive, and otherwise Arizona dominated them. Total yards might have been kinda similar (I think Arizona had something like 190 to UTSA 140) but I thought the game was pretty much in control after those first couple drives.

Hmmm. Let me see what the actual drives were for UTSA...

11-58 FG
4-10 INT
3-7 Punt
11-49 FG
5 - -2 PUNT
6 -11 EOH

Yeah, that looks pretty much like being dominated by the defense.

Like I said, the announcers were full of shit. Saying the game was pretty even was a comment I would expect from someone who just glanced at the half time stats, missed the score, and didn't actually watch the game.

Or, you could have listened to what they said instead of going all  about it.  They were only like 40-50 yards apart at the half, and noted the score could easily be much closer than it was.  Because that was the truth.

You should keep going on about it though like Arizona was playing USC or something. 

I dunno. The only time I would announce that would be to explain waving off a flag that was already on the ground.

Probably because they felt the Arizona fans needed the assistance.    Seriously though, that shit was annoying and I've never come across a crew/ref that does that.

[Valmy]

Shit.  They won 4 and 5 games those years.  I'm struggling to find more than one or two more wins on the schedule this year.  I got Kansas and maybe Iowa State?  Kansas State hasn't been too good either, but they'll win anyway.

I only wish somebody would take footage of the Texas defense trying to tackle people from last season and this one and make a Yakety Sax video.  That would make it all worth it.

[MadBurgerMaker]

I only wish somebody would take footage of the Texas defense trying to tackle people from last season and this one and make a Yakety Sax video.  That would make it all worth it.

Apparently, they're only #3 in missed tackles this year!  Or at least they were before tonight's game.  I don't know who the other (#1 and 2) teams were/are, but it must suck some serious ass watching those defenses.

[Berkut]

WEll, if you consider giving up 23 points in a half "pretty good on D" then yes, I guess UTSA was doing pretty good.

But if you watched the game, you would see that outside a nice opening drive for a FG, UTSA did pretty much nothing on offense in the first half, with just one other drive for more than 11 yards, and that one went for 49 and another field goal.

So UTSA had one good drive to open up the game, then one so-so drive, and otherwise Arizona dominated them. Total yards might have been kinda similar (I think Arizona had something like 190 to UTSA 140) but I thought the game was pretty much in control after those first couple drives.

Hmmm. Let me see what the actual drives were for UTSA...

11-58 FG
4-10 INT
3-7 Punt
11-49 FG
5 - -2 PUNT
6 -11 EOH

Yeah, that looks pretty much like being dominated by the defense.

Like I said, the announcers were full of shit. Saying the game was pretty even was a comment I would expect from someone who just glanced at the half time stats, missed the score, and didn't actually watch the game.

Or, you could have listened to what they said instead of going all  about it. 

I did listen to what they said. They were wrong, as anyone actually paying attention and not wearing UTSA colored blinders to the game could see.

They were only like 40-50 yards apart at the half, and noted the score could easily be much closer than it was.

50 yards is quite a lot though for a half. And when you look at the drives, it wasn't even that close. UTSA had one good drive to open the game, and sputtered the rest of the time when they had the ball.

It could be much closer than it was...if UTSA wasn't dominated by Arizona. But they were, so it wasn't.

Because that was the truth.

The truth is that UTSA had two mediocre drives, and otherwise could not move the ball. The score reflected exactly that. While Arizona moved the ball at ease, and the main thing stopping them on offense was the endzone.

UTSA had the ball 7 times, and scored 2 field goals. Two drives with 58 and 49 yards for field goals, rest of their drives were 10, 7, -2, and 11 yards.

Arizona had the ball 6 times, scored 3 TDs on drives of 82, 34, and 53 yards. FG on a drive of 48 yards. 2 3 and out drives of 2 and 9 yards. How you can say that is vaguely close is rather puzzling.

You should keep going on about it though like Arizona was playing USC or something. 

No, they were playing a incredibly young Conference USA team that they should dominate without too much trouble, and that is just what they did. Arizona looks pretty decent through three games, but we don't really know if they are going to be a Pac-12 contender, since they haven't played anyone of Pac-12 caliber yet. The game against Washington next week will tell us a lot.

How is saying that Arizona had no trouble against UTSA claiming that they are playing USC? What are you going on about?

[MadBurgerMaker]

   Okay dude, whatever.  Arizona is awesome.  You are awesome.  I have taken off my UTSA colored blinders (??) and see the light.  You are right, and all the guys on the TV box are wrong.  There is no way it could have been 23-14 at the half.  Not a chance at all.  They were just making things up to placate the UTSA fanbase that wasn't watching the game because the vast majority of them don't get the PAC12N. 

I'm somewhat worried about what is going to happen to you when Arizona plays non directional school.

E: Anyway, one of the missed tackles leaders ahead of the Horns is supposedly Northwestern.  Seems strange to me.  Do they suck on D?

[Berkut]

  Okay dude, whatever.  Arizona is awesome.  You are awesome.  You are right, and all the guys on the TV box are wrong.  There is no way it could have been 23-14 at the half.  Try not to stroke out about it, okay?  I'm mildly worried about what is going to happen to you when Arizona plays non directional school.

Why are you being such a douchebag?

I never said Arizona was awesome, I said they easily handled UTSA. Unless UTSA has some amazing offense, that doesn't make Arizona awesome.

The talking heads who are paid to blab were wrong. That is ok - they often are. Not agreeing with them doesn't make me delusional. They are paid to blab, and they have to say something, and in this case what they said was simply bullshit. As I've shown with actual stats and figures and such.

Why this is worthy of you getting your feelings all hurt about I do not know. It's not like anyone expected UTSA to go to Arizona and have a real shot. The game went pretty much as expected, right?

[Berkut]

I'm somewhat worried about what is going to happen to you when Arizona plays non directional school.

Arizona will win, in which case I will be happy.

Or Arizona will lose, in which case I won't be happy.

Either way, the guys paid to blab will blab, and likely say something that isn't really accurate, and I will disagree with them. Whether or not you get all butt hurt because someone disagrees with what a couple third rate announcers say or not we likely won't know, since it won't be a UTSA game, I suppose.