It's Rove and Co. vs. Tea Party: Let the GOP civil war begin

[DGuller]

Indeed.  The Dems basically dumped the Klan/Southern Democrats, who hadn't really been the base since the immediate aftermath of the Civil War.

Think you got that backdated by about 100 years.

You think?  Democrats on the national level didn't seem to give them much shrift.  They did what they wanted in their shitty states and generally benefited from Dem interventionism, but Democratic policy at the national level was definitely indifferent or inimical to their "regional" interests, e.g. Truman's integrating the armed forces and the Roosevelt and Kennedy appointments to the Warren Court that formed Warren's majority in major "judicially activist" decisions.  If KlanDems were their base, they do not appear to be very beholden to them.

Democrats definitely enabled Jim Crow laws.  I'm going to side with dps;  while Democrats gradually moved away from the KKK faction, it wasn't until the Civil Rights Act of 1964 that it stopped being their base.

[Eddie Teach]

The point is KlanDems were marginalized nationally, splintered, and began voting GOP long before the present day.  A base that not only leaves but is practically pushed out isn't much of a base.

They didn't really, their grandkids did.

[Razgovory]

Indeed.  The Dems basically dumped the Klan/Southern Democrats, who hadn't really been the base since the immediate aftermath of the Civil War.

Think you got that backdated by about 100 years.

You think?  Democrats on the national level didn't seem to give them much shrift.  They did what they wanted in their shitty states and generally benefited from Dem interventionism, but Democratic policy at the national level was definitely indifferent or inimical to their "regional" interests, e.g. Truman's integrating the armed forces and the Roosevelt and Kennedy appointments to the Warren Court that formed Warren's majority in major "judicially activist" decisions.  If KlanDems were their base, they do not appear to be very beholden to them.

Democrats definitely enabled Jim Crow laws.  I'm going to side with dps;  while Democrats gradually moved away from the KKK faction, it wasn't until the Civil Rights Act of 1964 that it stopped being their base.

Yeah, I don't know what Ide's smoking.  You see gradual moving away in the early 20th century with some northern Dems supporting anti-lynching laws.  The first real big split was desegregation of the army, but even that wasn't permanent.  The Civil rights acts of the 1960's is what did it, and the transition from Dem to Republican took about a decade for the GOP to completely lured in the "Wallace voters".

[LaCroix]

i'm still amazed heitkamp actually beat berg. but after north dakota voted no on all the awful measures it tried to pass a year ago, i suppose i should place some trust in the voters here